What did the update say about when games will ship?
Quoted from Pubaw:
That podcast dude says right at the 3 minute mark, "I have additional facts and information but I decided not to share it in this podcast".
I thought he did a good job of explaining why he chose not to share some information which has not been independently confirmed. I felt he was trying to be fair and did a pretty good job of doing that.
Hopefully this means that people who have been asking, demanding, and screaming for refunds over several months now will finally get them.
Quoted from Magic_Mike:
However, the silence speaks volumes that nobody has any real evidence to convict this man.
Kevin lied. Publicly, consistently, on video, in emails, in forum posts, in interviews, in writing, in person, again and again, over and over.
People who questioned him were vilified, ridiculed, and hounded out of the conversation.
His intent was to act illegally. He got caught.
He MAY have actually believed that he could pull off the build, but that does not mean that he was justified in taking money on false pretense. It also does not mean that he could have built hundreds of games in his basement and delivered them. It also does not mean that Fox would not have otherwise noticed and shut him down before he finished.
The whole thing was based on the lie that he had a valid license agreement.
Quoted from multibrawlr:
Fine. I'll explain myself then, I suppose.
Sorry about that. Please understand that this thread has a history of new accounts showing up from previously banned users. I'm sure nothing personal was meant, but there is justified suspicion about any new users showing up here since there has been bad behavior.
Welcome, and thanks for introducing yourself!
(Edit: Is it a bad sign when I begin echoing Whysnow? )
No show for court ordered examination.........
Wonder if instead he went hunting, was high, or both.
Quoted from Dayhuff:
Where are you getting this information from? I'm not doubting it at all, just curious. I mean I see it in the info above but where and how did you come across it?
All (well, MOST anyway) court proceedings are public documents. There is a system called PACER for access to Michigan court filings. He has subscribed to PACER.
Very good summaries.
A couple of minor but important points.
"Skit B" pinball never existed in any form as a business entity. No Inc, no llc, no dba... nothing.
The intent and ability of Kevin to build any significant number of games has been questioned. Those are separate issues from the legal right that he clearly never had.
Quoted from investingdad:
Three feet of standing water in the basement when it rains? Is this house surrounded by a moat? On a lake?
Three feet is likely a significant exaggeration. Many older homes in Michigan were built with basements that were not intended to be used as finished space. Damp with significant water after rains and snowmelt is/was to be expected.
Grew up in a semi-rural area and was surprised to find that people expect basements to be dry. Very few in that area were.
Also makes that space unsuitable for building and storing electronic devices.
Quoted from Whysnow:
How about some truthful answers from the active MI crew...
I'm in Michigan, and getting pretty sick of seeing you phrase things this way.
I have never seen ANY Predator pinball machine in my life, and do not know where any are.
If you want to accuse people, do it directly and leave the rest of us out of it.
Quoted from frolic:
I suppose a lean could be put on the house or something by the trustee? What else would happen?
Yeah. This is exactly the problem. There is a huge step from getting a judgement and actually collecting on that judgement. Lien might help, might not. A property lien really only comes into play if the owner tries to sell the property. Even then a buyer might not care about clear title, particularly if there is no mortgage lender bank involved.
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