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The Official Pinside Kevin Kulek Skit-B Predator Discussion

By Xerico

5 years ago

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Post #12066 What is PACER and where are you getting the court documents? Posted by c508 (3 years ago)

Post #12502 Links to where Kevin gives "his side of the story". Posted by BillySastard (3 years ago)

Post #12515 Updated court filings. Potential cash coming into bankruptcy estate. Posted by Wolfmarsh (3 years ago)

Post #12528 Good summation of 2 year look back and possible fraudulent transfers. Posted by flynnibus (3 years ago)

Post #12580 More legal pleadings. Posted by Wolfmarsh (3 years ago)

Post #12593 Facts & allegations document for VirtuaPin Posted by c508 (3 years ago)

Post #12801 Photos of Experts of Dangerous Posted by fastpinball (3 years ago)

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#10 5 years ago

Will it be done in time for the Predator 4 movie?

#19 5 years ago
Quoted from jms121:

A Predator 4 movie?,that sounds cool,when is that supposed to be released?

Just a rumor I heard. Probably just that. Maybe they can get Danny Glover and Gary Busey on board and make a Predator 2 pin before that movie goes to VHS.

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#4104 5 years ago


#4964 5 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

So - when "one of us" builds a Predator game and says it's officially licensed - why wouldn't people have trusted him?

Some of us trust people we have never met only as far as we can throw them.

#5140 5 years ago

This thread needs a Snickers break.


#5163 5 years ago
#5169 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

She turned me into a newt.


#5203 5 years ago
Quoted from jrivelli:

the worst so far out of all botiques


#5236 5 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

There's been "a run on the bank", it's over.


#5241 5 years ago

All but the.....


#5280 5 years ago


#5290 5 years ago

If you ask the judge in small claims court how to collect money in a judgement, I have heard he will say something like "hmmmm..somebody wrote a book on that once."

#5292 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

The Euro guys will actually make a big profit if their money is ever returned (assuming it is returned before the dollar weakens again).
Coming out ~$1,000 ahead would rock, yes?

Pinball is an investment after all.

#5297 5 years ago
Quoted from Dalbok:

I feel bad for everyone caught up in this fiasco.

Poor paypal. It sounds like they will be the ones taking it in the shorts. No profit.

#5304 5 years ago
Quoted from Pubaw:

Small claims court sure is a bummer sometimes.

Except on People's Court. I have heard on all judgements they foot the bill.


#5312 5 years ago

Better to try and fail than not try at all. The world is full of red tape.

#5315 5 years ago

The true story may never be known but the man had a dream and many believed in that dream. Not all dreams come true.

#5320 5 years ago
Quoted from PEN:

I fixed it for you.

That you did.

Better to fail than not lie at all.

#5325 5 years ago
Quoted from lowepg:

He had a dream?
Yeah, so did Bernie Madoff

Now you guys are trying to make me laugh! Interesting turn of events.

#5327 5 years ago

Wish I was closer!

#6024 5 years ago

Is it safe yet?

#6170 5 years ago

Is there an chance that those that did not send any money might also receive a refund?

7 months later
#10067 4 years ago

That Shangri-La has better artwork than Predator.

3 months later
#10322 4 years ago
Quoted from Enaud:

I spoke with the court and they said this is typically the way these court cases go. You win, but still can't collect the money. They either spend it all or hide it.

I have heard one judges answer to the question " OK, I won now how do I collect?" was " I think somebody wrote a book about that".

3 months later
#10775 4 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

I paid for goods and so did 250 other people.

Sounds more like you paid for bads.

#10792 4 years ago

The only thing missing from this meal is the toast


#10794 4 years ago
Quoted from jlm33:

I am not giving up

No quitting here!


#10863 4 years ago

Maybe Experts of Dangerous would have produced enough revenue to refund those that pre-paid on Predator. But now it looks like we will never know...

2 weeks later
#10977 4 years ago

I still have a hard time believing people sent this guy money in the first place.

#11113 4 years ago

So who's willing to pick up the pieces, sit down with Fox and see if we can get this sucker licensed after all?

#11143 4 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

The theme is forever tainted.

I guess that means Predator 2 is out of the question too.


#11181 4 years ago

You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.

#11259 4 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

Ape shall not kill Ape!"

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.


#11261 4 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

I blame you, o-din.

I'll accept the blame. I grew up with the apes movies.

Quoted from Cornelius:

Are you going to ReplayFX?

Are they coming to our town soon?

#11264 4 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

These threads are a warning to those who would ever think of giving money to a "pinball company" that has no proof of manufacturing capability.

I don't need a thread to tell my that. I call it trust my own instincts.

#11266 4 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Keeping it open also reminds everyone that there are two scumbag criminals walking free who defrauded hundreds of people and stole their money.

Keeping it open reminds me that there are a bunch of people with more money than sense that got suckered into sending this clown money, and don't stand a chance of ever getting any of it back. But will probably keep on whining about it even after this clown is dead and buried.

#11269 4 years ago
Quoted from Hawkeyepin:

anyone who threw money at this thinking there wasn't huge risk was stupid.

People that throw money away can usually afford to be stupid.

#11272 4 years ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

Odin: you can probably understand how these statements may be somewhat offensive to us guys that got duped? You are basically saying if we got scammed that's okay because we could afford it...which is not particularly a nice statement.

I didn't say it was OK anybody got scammed. We all have.

What I was saying is it was a lot of money to trust in the hands of somebody with just a good sales pitch. I know I wouldn't have chanced it. Especially for that much money.

I got screwed on a car deal once because the little bitch didn't actually own it. But she was somebody I knew so I went thru with it. After they came and took the car and I got nothing back, I just cut my losses and moved on because reality was I would never see a dime of it. But I did tell myself if I ever saw her again, I would punch her in the face, girl or not. Fortunately it never came to that.

Point is either the system will work, or as usual it won't. Or you can try to take this clown on face to face. Nothing else is going to do any of you any good except eat you up inside.

#11277 4 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

A criminal is still on the loose, and until justice is served, this thread remains relevant.

In this case, justice will never be served. Putting him in jail will never get people their money back.

But there is a chance some learned a valuable, although costly lesson and will finally be able to get on with their lives. Then there are those that will let it eat away at them forever.

#11278 4 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

you can enjoy Pinside the way it was meant to be enjoyed...

People have a right to ignore people and that's fine.

But those that brag about who they ignore have no spine whatsoever IMO.

#11281 4 years ago
Quoted from Mike_J:

If he goes to jail, most everyone will feel much better.

None more than his lonely cell mate, I'm sure.

#11284 4 years ago
Quoted from bangerjay:

Not going to ignore you Odin, but you're wrong.

I can live with that. I can't always be right.

#11286 4 years ago
Quoted from bangerjay:

I have no hope of getting any of my money back, but fuck that guy, keep suing his ass

I figured you'd be one of those go find him and punch him in the face type of guys. That's the only way I'd get any satisfaction out of a situation like this.

#11287 4 years ago

A buddy of mine got sued for punching the dude that ripped him off. It ended up on Peoples Court.

You know what he told Wapner?

"At least I got to hit the guy"

#11289 4 years ago

We already went over this already. Everybody handles things in their own way.

Sorry some clown ran off with all the money.

#11340 4 years ago

But most of all remember...

Quoted from Xerico:

This is not a Skit-B bash thread.

#11348 4 years ago
Quoted from Xerico:

If you are going to quote me, then quote the entire paragraph. Don't cherry pick in an attempt to snidely get a point across. Much has changed since I wrote the opening post

Indeed. Pardon me. Sorry.

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#11757 3 years ago

I hear some men prefer women that never stop stuffing their faces.

Perhaps some of the Predator money went to feed them.

2 months later
#11903 3 years ago

Any update on Experts of Dangerous? I love that show!

#11958 3 years ago
Quoted from ZNET:

Remember, the first rule of Pinside is to be nice

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#12352 3 years ago
Quoted from PoMC:

I got caught up reading the Predator thread and came close to buying in.

I read it too and said WTF?

Quoted from PoMC:

I would certainly be pissed at the whistleblowers who ultimately lost my money

The whistleblowers had the money and lost it?

#12357 3 years ago
Quoted from PoMC:

They had a hand in losing any chance the pin would be completed and delivered, certainly.

Oh, I thought it was because there was no license to begin with and it was just a big con taking advantage of peoples wants for a pinball machine themed after a movie they like.

#12362 3 years ago
Quoted from labnip:

so, when's Kevin douchebag going to jail?

I have heard the authorities are discussing his apprehension as we speak.

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#12373 3 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

He had plenty of enablers, that's for sure.

Going back and looking at some of the early threads, no doubt about that! Pinside as a whole, enabled it to go on and on without much doubt.

When throwing that kind of money out there for an unknown result, a little homework never hurts.

Kudos to those that were wise enough to do their own research about the license and get their money back.

#12386 3 years ago
Quoted from Nibbles:

How many months would you sit on that information before telling others?

I'm sure Fox figured it out as soon as the license inquiries started coming in.

#12392 3 years ago

When I put myself in anonymous' shoes I say,

"Heck ya, I got my money back! Now I'm bailing from this whole scene...I'm over it!"

#12418 3 years ago

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#12494 3 years ago

Was he also denied the Experts of Dangerous license? That was the one I was considering putting my money on.

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#12941 3 years ago
Quoted from shovelhed:

Pinball is supposed to be a tight knit group. They took care of themselves and fucked the other buyers.

I wouldn't say anybody that had nothing to do with the pimping of the game or exchange of other people's money in this ordeal fkd anyone.

It is each person's own responsibility to research what they are buying and who they are giving their money to.

#12960 3 years ago


#12963 3 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

I saw this and thought "great, one more acronym I don't know."

I saw it this AM and wasn't sure myself. How bout "was safe for work" ?

#12965 3 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

I like it! Your comment "was safe for work" circa 1985, but times have changed and with shifting workplace norms and standards of professional conduct, we're going to have to let you go ...

Yeah, if memory serves me correctly, I might have posted an image in the wee hours of the night, but then thought better of it. I'm not really sure. It might be on my home computer so I can size that up when I get there.

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#14877 3 years ago
#14880 3 years ago

OK sorry. Done. I can't tell the difference. All this virtual shit's the same to me.

2 months later
#16269 3 years ago

I'd like to see them post pics of their new living quarters on facebook.

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#16747 3 years ago
Quoted from Taxman:

Zira's husband played by Roddy McDowall?

Wasn't it kind of a bummer he couldn't do Beneath the Planet of the Apes?

7 months later
#17921 2 years ago

The law is great at passing judgements. Collecting money owed to any body but the legal system itself, not so much.

5 months later
#18011 2 years ago

I'm surprised to see this thread still going. What happened, did deeproot hire him?

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#18286 10 months ago

I'm still waiting for someone to pick up the pieces on Experts of Dangerous and git er done!

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