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The Official Pinside Kevin Kulek Skit-B Predator Discussion

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5 years ago

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Post #12066 What is PACER and where are you getting the court documents? Posted by c508 (2 years ago)

Post #12502 Links to where Kevin gives "his side of the story". Posted by BillySastard (2 years ago)

Post #12515 Updated court filings. Potential cash coming into bankruptcy estate. Posted by Wolfmarsh (2 years ago)

Post #12528 Good summation of 2 year look back and possible fraudulent transfers. Posted by flynnibus (2 years ago)

Post #12580 More legal pleadings. Posted by Wolfmarsh (2 years ago)

Post #12593 Facts & allegations document for VirtuaPin Posted by c508 (2 years ago)

Post #12801 Photos of Experts of Dangerous Posted by fastpinball (2 years ago)

Post #12872 Enaud's account of contacting fox regarding skit-b Posted by Enaud (2 years ago)

Post #13034 Description of an adversary proceeding (or AP) Posted by jasonp (2 years ago)

Post #13477 Discharge of debt denied by order Posted by Compy (2 years ago)

Post #13483 Stipulations for waiving chapter 7 discharge Posted by Compy (2 years ago)

Post #13528 Audio recording from Jan 27 court hearing regarding bankruptcy filing Posted by Wolfmarsh (2 years ago)

Post #13729 Summary of legal bankruptcy terminology Posted by Razorbak86 (2 years ago)

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#440 4 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

Yep. After the PRED drama is over and done I'm not preordering again.
TBL? Looks awesome. Build em then we'll talk. No carpet? Fine.
Aliens? Sounds killer. Build em. How's Full Throttle? One at a time hotshot.

I totally hear you. That said, I'm already in for Alien. Yep, Ima sucker for the new sh*t I guess!? ...and I'm still in on Predator too, although my enthusiasm has admittedly subsided.

2 months later
#1323 4 years ago

I've been excited for this project from the beginning: a dream theme (first rated R movie I watched with my father); excited to support some enthusiastic 'kids in the basement' (doing something I've only dreamt of); great toys and mods being supported by Matt at BAC; open source opportunities - with awesome code out of the gate from a guy who clearly knows pinball rules and is a great player himself, etc...

I truly have been trying to trust Kevin and have continued to try and support the endeavor. I've defended Kevin and the project verbally when my fellow pinball buddies tell me I should've bailed (over a year ago I might add), I've been biting my tongue and refusing to spend too much time reading or responding here on Pinside, but unfortunately I think this has gone on too long for me - my patience is really wearing thin.

I'm sorry, but sending a cryptic email with an equally cryptic apology for being so cryptic in the first place is not what I'm looking for right now - especially from a guy who's typically been so eloquent in his previous emails and on stage interviews. I just want the rumors put to sleep and a *pessimistic* date as to when I'll get my machine. Hell, even if I was told it'd be another 6mos., but all questions were answered and I was going to see my Predator pinball machine as initially pitched and promised - that'd actually be enough for me to stay in.

I have no doubt that this has proven to be far more difficult for Skit-B than they ever even imagined and I do feel for the team, but it's gone on long enough. I'm giving Kevin one final chance to provide a substantial update and a response with some concrete answers. If I don't hear what I want, I'm afraid I'm going to have to bail. That last line is really hard for me to write, but my internal voice yelling, "you've waited this long, what's a little longer?" must finally be silenced and ignored.

2 weeks later
#2536 4 years ago

I'm afraid this was not the update I was looking for. I too requested a full refund, but I'm not holding my breath that I'll receive it anytime soon, if at all.

For those of you staying in, I wish you the best of luck and hope to be able to play your Predator machine one day.

#4241 4 years ago

As I sit here and finish my taxes, I can't help but wonder (err hope) if I could write this off as a donation?

#4421 4 years ago

Damn, I don't know what's worse:

...the money I'm losing on Predator.
...the ruining of all future viewings of Predator.

#4458 4 years ago



Wow, I've officially lost it. I'm so pissed right now.

#4543 4 years ago
Quoted from LP30:

Having followed this project for 2 over years, it is a very sad ending. Kevin didn't even try to finesse the license question from the very beginning. I remember reading this at the time and was impressed they had secured such well known franchise for a small run games. Just a straight out lie. It's terrible the situation he has now created for his family as well. Sorry for everyone who is has losses in this.

SkitB Predator License Comment.jpg (Click image to enlarge)

I remember reading this post like it was yesterday. I must've watched that mentioned 20 minute video a dozen times. If only I could've spit the hook.

#5349 4 years ago
Quoted from Kevgascan:

Who said Kevin kept the money in a Paypal account? He probably withdrew it into a bank account where he would have faster access to it and making interest on it.

Shit, at this point I'm fine with him keeping any interest he may have gained...hell, I'm even okay with him keeping my initial $250. As long as we can recoup the vast majority of our (chalk it up as) "poorly invested" money - I know I, for one, will feel like I've come out ahead at this point.

#5355 4 years ago
Quoted from Erik:

I suppose he could have even invested them wisely. We had a fellow earlier in this thread who (granted, in hindsight) called stock trades and claimed windfall profits in 2014. Perhaps they shared investment strategies? Or maybe...


2 months later
#9191 4 years ago
Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:

Yep same email here...
"Your refund by Skit-B Pinball didn't complete."


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