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The Official Pinside Kevin Kulek Skit-B Predator Discussion

By Xerico

4 years ago

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Post #12066 What is PACER and where are you getting the court documents? Posted by c508 (2 years ago)

Post #12502 Links to where Kevin gives "his side of the story". Posted by BillySastard (2 years ago)

Post #12515 Updated court filings. Potential cash coming into bankruptcy estate. Posted by Wolfmarsh (2 years ago)

Post #12528 Good summation of 2 year look back and possible fraudulent transfers. Posted by flynnibus (2 years ago)

Post #12580 More legal pleadings. Posted by Wolfmarsh (2 years ago)

Post #12593 Facts & allegations document for VirtuaPin Posted by c508 (2 years ago)

Post #12801 Photos of Experts of Dangerous Posted by fastpinball (2 years ago)

Post #12872 Enaud's account of contacting fox regarding skit-b Posted by Enaud (2 years ago)

Post #13034 Description of an adversary proceeding (or AP) Posted by jasonp (2 years ago)

Post #13477 Discharge of debt denied by order Posted by Compy (2 years ago)

Post #13483 Stipulations for waiving chapter 7 discharge Posted by Compy (2 years ago)

Post #13528 Audio recording from Jan 27 court hearing regarding bankruptcy filing Posted by Wolfmarsh (2 years ago)

Post #13729 Summary of legal bankruptcy terminology Posted by Razorbak86 (2 years ago)

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#15269 2 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

As much as I have little sympathy with anyone involved.. I can see how she's pissed off that she also trusted kevin "IE sharing a bank account and mixing money because he's your husband". And because she can't really prove which funds came from where, unfortunately some of her real earned money (not stolen like kevin did) is going to get lumped into this. She's actually manning up more than Kevin is, giving up whatever paperwork she can provide, and asking what she's responsible for so she can make plans to pay back what she's responsible for even if it means refinancing and taking the hit of a giant loan embedded into the mortgage so this can be over and she can move on. Kevin seems to just be denying everything and putting off helping the system as much as possible. I'm guessing when this is all over, they won't be together.

Hoping the judge is less credulous

#15282 2 years ago

These court people and lawyers and judges have some nerve bothering this poor lady. HOW MANY TIMES DOES SHE HAVE TO SAY SHE WAS DUMB TO LET HER HUSBAND HAVE ACCESS TO HER BANK ACCOUNT BEFORE YOU LEAVE HER AND HER BUSINESS ALONE?? Christ!

#15322 2 years ago
Quoted from Taxman:

So Keith - One more thing to go after is that oil. Don't let them use it up if it was paid for with Predator money.

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#15516 2 years ago
Quoted from Oldgoat:

Just listened to a part of it...Kevin writes six checks on the same day, consecutive numbers, each for $9800 to Virtuapin?

One per cabinet delivered

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#16054 2 years ago

This is really eye (ear?) opening to me. Grandma makes so many ridiculous accusations about Keith (which he calls borderline actionable) in court and that's apparently totally cool with the judge. If I went to court I'd be worried about unintentionally making a misstatement.

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#16484 2 years ago

Be tactful in the way you leave comments. Misfortune has befallen a family with lots of kids. Avoidable misfortune, yes, to ill-gotten property, yes, but misfortune nonetheless. The public knows the flood story, not the fraud. Over the top comments, regardless of the merit, can help make the kulek clan the victims they want to be in the public eye

#16491 2 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

But when you factor in the part about them scamming the public with the welfare as well I don't think many people will feel sympathetic. Do you?

I think they'll see it as crazy pinball nerds attacking a poor family that just lost everything. Optics matter more than truth. Not saying don't comment, just saying be mindful of your audience's likely biases and craft your message accordingly to maximize effectiveness

#16566 2 years ago

Do you want to blow off steam or do you want to win?

#16584 2 years ago

Does losing everything actually make it more likely kulek ends up serving time? Like if there is a financial judgment against him that he has no ability to pay does have to go to prison instead?

#16600 2 years ago

It's interesting how the kulek defenders despair one family's losses while so casually dismissing the losses of hundreds of others.

#16696 2 years ago

It's good to be cautious but not paranoid. Get your talking points down, remember you are doing this to get out your story (not necessarily answer the questions asked), and be honest and composed.

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#17162 1 year ago
Quoted from robertmee:

Yep...I like Keith, but I said this very early on...mistake to be on Pinside.

And given that he hasn't posted to this thread in three months, it appears he has come to share your opinion.

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