I'm sorry, but I see absolutely no wrong doing on the head of the guy that bought the prototype. Even if he bought it directly from Kevin which it sounds like he didn't even do. This man didn't take your money and he doesn't have your machine. I understand that's a bit of hypocrisy to statements he made but I have to agree that if one of these prototypes were suddenly to come availible to you most people would have done the same.

As for the people who are spouting off about how the machine belongs to fox and he's such a bad guy because of illegal liscensing ect one big question for you: WHY aren't you guys saying the same thing over in the threads where the dude is building minions pinball? Where's the pitchforks for the Archer pinball build? Where's the calls for reporting to the copyright holders on the nightmare before Christmas pinball? If the builder put one up for sale would you buy it? I bet you would because there's plenty of people asking and all I see is oooos and ahhs and praise over there. Give me a break.

I can understand not being exactly thrilled that somebody was able to end up with one of these when so many others were completely scammed, but your fight is not with this man. It's with Kevin and skit b pinball. All I see is jealous rage and looking for an easy target to crucify to satisfy your bloodlust until legal proceedings on the real crooks happen. You guys should be ashamed.

Now proceed with the downvotes

My point was in comparison to the fact that people think it's illegal to own this game because its not liscensed. Yes the circumstances surrounding this game are different, but again, this pinchili guy isn't who scammed you. For him to own this game is no different (as far as liscensing is concerned) than if somebody bought the nightmare before Christmas pinball.

You guys are combining 2 separate issues.

Issue 1: Kevin kulek lied about everything and took everyone's money. Somewhere along the way Kevin sold one of the prototypes and this pinchili guy ended up with one. This should be yet another strike against Kevin and not pinchili. Pinchili didn't take your money. Pinchili didn't take your game. Pinchili didn't lie to you repeatedly about the circumstances regarding the game. I realize the game is somewhat toxic but at the end of the day he bought a prototype of an infamous game that nobody has (and not even from Kevin himself mind you). He has done nothing to harm any of you in any way. Only Kevin has done that.

Issue 2. Butthurt people who are mad that somebody owns this prototype game are trying to use the liscensing thing as a means to say pinchili can't own it. This is where the comparison to the other one off games based on licenses comes in. There's only 2 ever made. It's essentially a one off machine no different than the others I mentioned. It just so happens that the creator of this one off game also decided it would be a good idea to scam everyone while he was at it. Pinchili didn't scam you, what he did was no different than if you bought the nightmare before Christmas and a ridiculous argument.

Everyone wants Kevin to get what's coming to him, myself included. But people are angry and impatient and I don't blame them. However, people are letting their rave cloud their rationale and just want somebody to suffer in the meantime. Pinchili didn't scam anyone and he had nothing to do with any of it. It's not fair to lump him in with Kevin just because he's the current owner of one of the prototypes.

I lol'd

Omg unless you have proof like a written agreement that you wanted prototype number 2 or whatever it is that pinchili owns, and it was signed off and OK"d, which I'm sure was not the case, then pinchili does NOT own YOUR predator machine. What a moronic statement. Come on people.

Also pinchili purchased no stolen goods, so I don't get the argument there either.

I better return the NFL jersey I bought from china before the NFL comes and takes it away from me.

BTW- Isn't a counterfeit a copy of an existing good/ or brand? I'm asking this in all honesty. Like, if I bought this car from my friend Tyrone, have I just bought counterfeit m&m's?

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Some people on this thread be like

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Lmao no, conspiracy theorists (tin foil hats)
I'm not saying they are wrong per say, I would just like some proof. Thinking everyone with a differing opinion is Kevin or pinchili.

Honestly I don't think warbound is either of those guys, I just think he holds an unpopular opinion. I could maybe buy into the pinrebel theory, especially since we haven't heard from him in a while after people started calling him out, but I'll reserve my judgement until I get some proof

The prototypes aren't stolen goods so no.

It's already been explained over and over again in the last few pages.

Kevin strikes me as more of a meth afficanado

If (when?) this turns out to be the case then I take back all my defense of these guys and my apologies to anyone I may have frustrated

Well I see at least one person (not me) has left a negative review on Kevins wife's fb page about Kevin. Gave me a good chuckle

https://www.facebook.com/faelaumerawphoto

Looks like she removed ratings now. It said something to the effect of that the whole family were theives, and a 1 star review, then she responded with something like "take this down before I contact my lawyer" and the review writer retorted with "I'll just declare bankruptcy like your husband". It was hilarious

I posted a 1 star google review for the wifes photo business. Not right that she can do all this stuff and live in her new house bought with stolen money. I encourage others to do the same. Please try to refrain from personal attacks and keep it factual

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fae+Laume+Photography/@43.604525,-84.262869,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x13df2e1f68452e4d?sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiS24aY6ZvNAhVH6IMKHfpFAMkQ_BIIXzAK

yep I recommend making people aware by reviewing her business

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Laume+Photography+

And people wonder why potential owners/parts owners don't want to speak up about what they have. All the angry villagers are ready to burn anyone at the stake even if said person had nothing to do with taking anybodies money or anything to do with the scandal at all. I mean I do understand the anger that you got ripped off and now somebody has possession of a machine, but really its just anger directed at the wrong person. Its just an easy target you can attack now even though they have not personally wronged you in any way. I know this an unpopular opinion to hold here, but I've said it earlier in this thread and I'm saying it again. I also feel some of these people could have offered valuable insight but instead have had to run away from the witch hunt.

Please note- this post is not meant to insinuate that any of the accusations toward Clay or anyone else hold water or not. Simply just an outside observation

Nope, I totally get that. I totally understand the various reasons people wouldn't be thrilled with the idea of people owning these machines. However that doesn't mean I agree with it either. Its not like these buyers were like "man my poor friend Kevin really needs help fighting these assholes I'll buy a game from him to help him out." Couldn't it be more likely that the buyers thought or even may have even been told the funds from the sale would go toward paying buyers back? Even in a worse case scenario a buyer may have just wanted a rare game and took the chance when they got it. Selfish and inconsiderate? Sure, I suppose you could make that argument. But the intent wasn't malicious. Again, I get why people would be upset about it, but I don't think it warrants deeply personal attacks and especially (supposed) threats of psyical violence. To me, it just boils down to people wanting to release some anger on kevin, but he is elusive, so their sights are set on a percieved next closest thing. This is just my opinion on the matter, I know of I was one of the unfortunate ones I'd be pissed too, but I would try to be more rational. Feel free to disagree, but I, for one, would have liked to hear more from people who have games or have some sort of word on Kevin, but it's impossible with the angry mob.

I can't disagree with you there, I'm simply saying isn't it in the realm of possibility that Kevin the master story crafter could have made that seem like the case for a potential buyer? As I said before though the most likely scenario was somebody just jumped on an opportunity to get a rare/cool game and didn't stop to think what happened to the money afterwards. Selfish? Sure. Malicious? No. Personally, I think the insight they could have let us in on was worth more than the couple of pokes with the pitchforks that were dolled out. However, that said, Tim definitely did a poor job handling himself on here, but I still don't think the (alleged) threats and doxxing were right.

Oh man, now this is really starting to get good! *gets another batch of popcorn*

Didn't somebody say he was buying himself and kids a bunch of quads and gear and stuff too though? Sounds like he spent a lot of money on toys and BS

If Kevin's kids get hurt in any way in this process, it is a shame, but its nobodies fault but Kevin himself.

If you guys want to see some disgusting heffers in skimpy outfits taken with camera equipment bought with predator money I reccomend asking to be a part of kevin's wife's new group: Fae's secrets! https://www.facebook.com/groups/laumeboudoir/

I bet she's not telling all of her secrets on this FB page though notice how she has turned off comments and ratings on her normal photography buisiness FB page now.

Honestly the page seems legit for her buisiness. You're not missing much other than a bunch of land whales in lingerie and girly talk. Here's a couple screen grabs.

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Sorry, you guys are right, inappropriate.

WTF I thought this was just a joke reply but its actually true lmfao!!

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Laumephotography/reviews/ here is his wife's photography FB page. I'm sure she would appreciate a nice review of her services with the nice camera equipment you all bought her!

Does anyone remember that video of the outtakes of the guy making the winnebago sales video or the documentary about said video called "Winnebago man"? Whenever the word accouterments comes up thats always what it reminds me of and it immediately put a smile on my face when I heard it in the audio. Here's the video for those who care to see what I'm talking about. Warning NSFW launguage

(4:22 is the accouterments part) I recommend the documentary as well!

I'd have to dig through the this thread forever but wasn't there somebody a while back who knew Kevin had bought ATV's and dirtbikes or something like that for all his kids too shortly after the predator deal?

edit- here it is:

Too bad he doesn't seem too happy to give us information anymore

The information contained in the document is public information.

Damn came here to get more hot goss, but instead just a bunch of people bickering about a joke. Damn!

I'd rather see fat hairy old guys walking around shirtless than be forced to look at that "artwork" on somebody's shirt

As a big supporter of the second amendment and being a person who is genuinely disgusted about the connotations being pushed these days against certain types of firearms, I really want to agree with you....but I just can't. I think at the core, your argument is correct, its bullshit that you are treated as a criminal if you want to open carry and everything that goes along with that argument. It certainly can be a slippery slope when you stop caring about when your rights are being restricted in certain situations. However, I just can't condone what those guys did. In these troubling times they are not helping the cause. What they did was done just to provoke a reaction, and while it was arguably legal, all it will really accomplish is pushing the publics favor for more regulations. I'm normally one to condone flexing your rights somewhat, but what these guys did was just foolish.

What I really don't understand is how Kevin claims he doesn't have a job because he's at home with the kids all day. But when his wife is on the stand she claims she is with the kids all day and kevin is out doing his own thing. Something doesn't quite add up there... Shocking isn't it

Funny how they want to use forum posts to make their case, yet they left out forum posts from VP assuring people that the predator license was legit, and then admitting he had done no due diligence to verify that was true when it came out that it wasn't legit.

They probably spray painted the junk themselves in order to extract more sympathy and more donations from unknowing people.

https://twitter.com/BriannaOwczar I suggest tweeting at the reporter as well

Theres too much "cultural appropriation" for Cali to celebrate halloween lmao

I keep seeing things like this posted around. "If kevin had just been honest it wouldn't have been a big deal". "If Clay had come to the community and let us know it would have been fine". "Tim would be off the hook if he didn't cover up his possession of a game" I just have trouble believing that. I'm not endorsing hiding these things from people or owning it, but lets not be silly. People are out for blood. If Clay or Tim or any other owner was honest they would have been crucified. Sure maybe, it would have been a slightly nicer lynching, but it would have been bad news regardless.

In his defense, he did explain that he was duped by Kevin and truly believed that the license was legit. Take that for what you will, but Paul has never really been a bad guy (except for a while in this thread) and continues to operate a well loved and legitimate business to this day.

Yes, new pictures of Kevin's back will be surfacing soon!

The one copy that that one guy owned (I forget his name now) that everyone was sharpening their pitchforks for now resides at galloping ghost arcade I think. Not sure where some of the other ones ended up