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#18402 50 days ago

All the recent posts inspired me to check on the status of the bankruptcy case alerts I have running on Bloomberg Law to confirm the status of the various KULEK and KULEK-RELATED (e.g., VirtuaPin's CNC Machine, Tim Fife's Predator pin, etc.) proceedings (which I believed to be CLOSED).

All of the bankruptcy proceedings (of which I am aware) are CLOSED.

I'm not aware of any other (civil or criminal) proceedings.

However, if there are any (now or in the future), the dockets for federal proceedings will be easy to get. For state proceedings, online access not only varies from one state to the next, but even from county to county within the same state.

In my next post, I will list all the case info on the cases I was tracking. This info has already appeared throughout this thread, but I am reproducing it so that people can see it all in one place.

#18403 50 days ago

Frank v. Droomer, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02016 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Feb 14, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Feb 14, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $10000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2017-09-08
DATE DISMISSED 09/08/17
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Frank v. Klumpp, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02018 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Feb 14, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Feb 14, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $10000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2017-12-14
DATE DISMISSED 12/14/17
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Frank v. Kulek, Docket No. 1:16-ap-02073 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Sep 16, 2016), Court Docket

DATE FILED Sep 16, 16
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $148000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2018-05-31
DATE DISMISSED 05/31/18
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Frank v. Kulek, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02000 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Jan 02, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Jan 2, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 12
Recovery of money/property - 547 preference
13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $40000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2017-10-27
DATE DISMISSED 10/27/17
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Frank v. Maletich et al, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02002 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Jan 02, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Jan 2, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 11
Recovery of money/property - 542 turnover of property
13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $131000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2018-08-03
DATE DISMISSED 08/02/18
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek
Date Reinstated/Reopened: 04/07/17

Frank v. Pinfield-Wells, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02014 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Feb 14, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Feb 14, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $25000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2017-10-03
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Frank v. Piornack, II, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02013 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Feb 14, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Feb 14, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $24000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2018-01-22
DATE DISMISSED 01/22/18
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Frank v. Truckel, Docket No. 1:17-ap-02003 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Jan 02, 2017), Court Docket

DATE FILED Jan 2, 17
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 13
Recovery of money/property - 548 fraudulent transfer
02
Other (e.g. other actions that would have been brought in state court if unrelated to bankruptcy)
DEMAND $8000
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2017-02-21
LEAD CASE 16-21030
RELATED CHAPTER 7
RELATED TITLE Kevin W Kulek

Kevin W Kulek, Docket No. 1:16-bk-21030 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Jun 03, 2016), Court Docket

DATE FILED Jun 3, 2016
STATUS Closed
ASSIGNED TO Judge Daniel S. Opperman.BayCity
DATE TERMINATED 2019-12-10
DATE REOPENED 02/15/2019
Chapter 7
Voluntary
No asset
Claims Register
Debtor disposition: Discharge Denied
341 meeting: 09/13/2016
Deadline for filing claims: 10/23/2018
Deadline for objecting to discharge: 03/12/2017
Deadline for financial mgmt. course: 09/12/2016

Kulek, Docket No. 1:18-cv-11509 (E.D. Mich. May 14, 2018), Court Docket

DATE FILED May 14, 2018
STATUS Closed
NATURE OF SUIT 422 Bankruptcy Appeal (801)
ASSIGNED TO District Judge Sean F. Cox
CASE IN OTHER COURT USBC-BC, 16-21030
CAUSE No cause code entered
DATE TERMINATED 2019-01-11
JURISDICTION Federal Question
JURY DEMAND None
REFERRED TO Magistrate Judge Patricia T. Morris

#18404 50 days ago

Once the proceedings started, has any money been recovered that has ended up in the hands of anyone that put down a deposit?

#18405 50 days ago

As far as the way things played out, I was surprised there was no recovery against Paul Maletich & VirtuaPin (especially since there was originally a default judgment against Maletich & VirtuaPin).

There could be many reasons for this, but here are my opinions as to the possibilities:

1. There were not actually grounds for recovery against Maletich & VirtuaPin.

2. There were grounds for recovery, but keithinmi and/or the plaintiffs thought it wasn't worth it to continue to pursue the case once Maletich obtained effective representation.

3. The whole "defamation counterclaim" sideshow spooked Keith and/or the plaintiffs (even though I still think is was a BS claim and Keith ultimately would have prevailed). Agreeing to dismiss the case against Maletich & VirtuaPin seemed like a better option than the additional costs of discovery and litigation related to defeating the defamation counterclaim.

Anyway, at least Pinside got $100 out of me being wrong about the defamation counterclaim being dismissed. Note, this does not mean the defamation counterclaim was legit. However, the court was not be able to dismiss it without additional information:

"Put in the context of this adversary proceeding only, the Defendants' Counterclaim against the Plaintiff would fail. But there is more to this case than mere allegations in the Complaint. For some reason, the allegations made in the Complaint escaped the judicial or court setting and have now made their way into the general public.

...

The mere recitation of the four paragraphs complained of by the Defendants filed with this Court are not actionable on their own, but the publication to others beyond the normal course leaves this Court to conclude that the Defendants should be allowed limited inquiry as to how the allegations, as well as any comments regarding the allegations, were developed. The Court is also interested in learning about the individuals involved with the dissemination of this information outside of the normal court proceedings."

Frank v. Maletich (In re Kulek), No. 16-21030-dob, 2017 BL 446251 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. Dec. 11, 2017)

#18406 50 days ago

So in other words. stick a fork in it, it's done.

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#18407 50 days ago

So Kulek blew through preorder money and the preorder folks got shafted?

Here's what I've learned over the years. People that don't have, and never built up, any sizeable amount of money, will NOT be able to handle a sudden influx of money.

They have zero idea how to manage it and no concept of how to effectively put it to work.

Based on what I read in this thread over the years, it was gross incompetence and a complete lack of experience on the part of SkitB.

#18408 50 days ago
Quoted from investingdad:

So Kulek blew through preorder money and the preorder folks got shafted?

Short story yes.
I mean, some people think he has all the money in 2 big sacks with dollar signs on them but it's never been proven.

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#18409 49 days ago

Seeing as how a million in hundreds fits nicely in a typical briefcase, the image of big sacks of money with dollar signs on them is pretty far from reality, current or past.

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#18410 49 days ago
Quoted from DanQverymuch:

Seeing as how a million in hundreds fits nicely in a typical briefcase...

Kulek walking around with a briefcase is even less believable.

#18411 49 days ago
Quoted from investingdad:

People that don't have, and never built up, any sizeable amount of money, will NOT be able to handle a sudden influx of money.
They have zero idea how to manage it and no concept of how to effectively put it to work.

There’s some wisdom in those words. I’ve watched this scenario play out more times than I care to remember with family, friends, you name it. What makes it suck even worse is watching that freight train barreling down and being powerless to stop it. I’ve had to watch while people close to me blew through life changing amounts of money in a matter of months. Nothing could be said or done to change the course.

#18412 47 days ago
Quoted from desertT1:

Is it a thing to mix good scotch with soda?
I haven’t found a cheap scotch I didn’t like meat as of yet, but if I’m micro-leasing a Lambo, I’m drinking Johnny Walker Blue and not diluting it with even ice.

I don't have the lambo tho..paired it with a seafood feast & beer ..no soda

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#18413 47 days ago
Quoted from s1500:

I still think it's funny there's a place in Michigan called Pinconning. If there was ever a red flag proudly displayed on a sign.

I was driving thru central michigan and thought of this post.

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