Quoted from investingdad:Did the judge order pictures to be removed as the comment states?
He did not have any jurisdiction, he just asked if they could be removed if possible.
Quoted from investingdad:Did the judge order pictures to be removed as the comment states?
He did not have any jurisdiction, he just asked if they could be removed if possible.
Quoted from vid1900:He did not have any jurisdiction, he just asked if they could be removed if possible.
And they never should have been posted in the first place.
Quoted from toyotaboy:What world is Kathy living in? The judge let you have the trailer because it's not worth the time trying to prove who paid the $250 (especially now since it's likely worthless).
My understanding is the judge did not let her have the trailer. He simply removed the default judgement. They still need to plead their case.
Yeah I can almost guarantee those comments didn't help anything but give them "look see the brutal attacks we get daily" ammo.
Oh my son!! Lol Where the heck is he? Out collecting route money??
Suprised that crazy lawyer wasn't out with his RPGs trying to sink the rescue vessels.
I've posted the comments in case they get pulled. Kevin's 'mom' Kathy is manipulating emotionally and lying to a laughable, farcical extent, implying pinside is a porn site. Kudos to John Gordon for calling out her despicable lies, and confirming the fact that pinside is a pinball fan site and not, um, an 'adult site'. I wonder where the million dollars went that your son allegedly stole? This is the elephant in the room which the former legal advisor to SKIT-B is trying to distract people from. And where is Kevin? Has he buggered off like his father did? What a pathetic, shameful family. Brazen though judging by their media pleas for MORE MONEY. Send more money. Money money money. (The Kuleks like money).
Dennis Dodel
These people are scum and swindled many people out of many thosands of dollars. Please do not fall for their cry for help. Only the children desrve help at this time. They should be taken from this family.
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David Slaymaker · Rockford, Illinois
These people are known scam artists and liars and are currently fighting court battles for their crimes. They swindled a couple hundred people out of 100's of thousands of dollars. Search "predator pinball" for the details.
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Kathy Kulek
This is a tragedy caused from an act of nature. Oh, how cold hearted can pople be? Look, you people took us to court in Midland that the Judge dismissed. You put us back in court in another county. I am holding in my hand right this second, the order from the Judge that was "Granted in MY favor". You went after the house and lost there too so you attacked the children. I believe that you are from that adult forum that the Judge just ordered pictures of children to be "removed immediately". Why would an adult site post pictures of children anyway unless it was to endamger them. This is harrassment with the sole intent to cause nothing but more harm. It;s pretty obvious that we have nothing to hide if we welcomed in a television crew with cameras. Use your heads..maybe even your heart.
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John Gordon · Works at Unemployed
Mrs. Kulek,
What adult site are you speaking of? You mean Pinside.com and the picture that YOUR family posted on Facebook? A website of pinball enthusiast open to all ages? The same website your good for nothing son used to promote his unlicensed, never produced pinball game that he pre-sold to 350 people for $4500 each? Then embezzled that money from the preorders and purchased that flooded home, your trailer, computers, camera equipment, and so on? You need to tell the whole truth ma'am. People are not suing all of you for random goodness that you have all performed. You are in the courts because of monies spent illegally and the crayon and paper napkin records you all kept for the sham of a business called Skit-B Pinball.
Yes, most of us have a heart and feel for the children. But you, your son, and his wife are now victims of ther own creations and wrong doings. Boo hoo, and nature cried you the river for you all!
The story in case it gets pulled:
MIDLAND COUNTY, MI (WNEM) -
The work continues after last week's historic floods.
Families are sorting through their ruined belongings and preparing to replace floorboards and drywall.
Some families have been hit harder than others.
Those directly in the flood zone saw feet of water in their homes.
One Mid-Michigan mother said her family can't go back home because their house was swamped with 11 feet of water.
Amanda Kulek lives with her husband, their five children and her mother-in-law who is disabled.
The family was rescued by air boat when the flood water rushed through their home, destroying everything in its wake. All they have left is a shell of a home they used to love, tainted with water lines.
Now they are struggling to find help during the aftermath.
"We haven't called anybody because we don't have the funds to call anybody. I'm a local photographer up the road so re-fixing my house is not in my budget. I'm the only one working. My husband stays home and takes care of the kids. My mother-in-law, who lives in the camper, is disabled and it's just me," Kulek said.
She said her family is now living in a hotel.
With all of the destruction to their home, the family is hoping a good Samaritan will step forward to help them fix the storm damaged carpet and walls.
"They might not have a home to come home to. We don't know if we can even let them live here anymore," Kulek said.
Copyright 2017 WNEM (Meredith Corporation). All rights reserved.
You guys are brutal.
If I were in their shoes, I would have broke down long ago.
How long has this all been dragged out?
That other help fund us campaign is already down??
Amazing the lengths this family will go to suck off the titte of society. A flood - what a tragity! I mean what are the odds in a known flood zone
Quoted from TheLaw:And they never should have been posted in the first place.
Takes 2 seconds to censor the faces of kids out of a photo.
Daily newspapers publish children's photos all the time, sometimes even with their names!
Although it is fun to call into radio shows ranting about "stranger danger" and newspaper photos......
Quoted from vid1900:Takes 2 seconds to censor the faces of kids out of a photo.
correct, that is my point
Quoted from Pinballs:She said her family is now living in a hotel.
Quoted from Pinballs:Yes, most of us have a heart and feel for the children. But you, your son, and his wife are now victims of ther own creations and wrong doings. Boo hoo, and nature cried you the river for you all!
They sure didn't seem to have a problem allowing the TV station to show the kids on the boat being rescued either.
Quoted from dontfeed:They sure didn't seem to have a problem allowing the TV station to show the kids on the boat being rescued either.
Sure, news agency or little detective agency, same thing right?
Quoted from CNKay:You guys are brutal.
If I were in their shoes, I would have broke down long ago.
How long has this all been dragged out?
That other help fund us campaign is already down??
Hell hath no fury like a pinsider scorned
Quoted from PismoArcade:The negative comments are gone.
They're there, maybe scroll down more?
Quoted from Crash:They're there, maybe scroll down more?
Sorry...I meant the WNEM Facebook page.
Quoted from robertmee:Hell hath no fury like a pinsider scorned
Oh I totally get it, I don't think momma Kulek does.
Its like the newspaper kid that wants what he is owed. 2$
Quoted from PismoArcade:Sorry...I meant the WNEM Facebook page.
I guess there's no room for the truth on a TV news webpage.
Quoted from dontfeed:I guess there's no room for the truth on a TV news webpage.
The year of Fake News
Quoted from dontfeed:I guess there's no room for the truth on a TV news webpage.
Thats crap.....
Quoted from PismoArcade:The negative comments are gone.
Someone should post the comments here in case they are pulled from FB etc.
I'm just blown away that Mama Kulek is telling people that Pinside is an adult site that exploits children. She also says that the judge ruled in her favor for the house.
Forget the "middle truth". The Kuleks are pathological liars (not to mention welfare cheats, scam artists, and just plain annoying).
Quoted from rotordave:SKIT-FB
Some Kids in the Flooded Basement.
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Um, someone beat you to that.
Some people are just pathological liars and actually believe their own lies. My ex roommate was like that and it got to the point I literally couldn't believe anything she said. I even started second guess myself if I was wrong sometimes because she was just that good at it. I absolutely despise people like this.
Rob
Quoted from Trekie:So if old lady Kulek is responding to comments, they didn't lose everything in the flood?
I'm guessing the laptops you guys payed for made it out safely....
Quoted from maddog14:plenty of good Samaritans on pinside.... just not to those that steal thousands of dollars.
Exactly.
I have a double-wide that I would gladly give to a fellow pinballer in need, for free.
But once someone reaches into my pocket, they at least owe me a h*****b
Unless this is a flash flood, there is no excuse for needing emergency rescue. Floods are very predictable and often take days or more to peak. Just think how much money was spent on the emergency rescue because they didn't take warnings seriously.
Quoted from toyotaboy:What world is Kathy living in? The judge let you have the trailer because it's not worth the time trying to prove who paid the $250 (especially now since it's likely worthless). According to the testimony I heard, Keith didn't lose the house. It's my understanding it's in the process of granting $30k ($5k less than appraisal for the sake of quick sale). Good thing they got that appraisal done before the flood.
No, he doesn't have that jurisdiction. Keith in his kindness offered to contact a moderator to have that image removed (which is why I reposted an edited version removing the faces of the kids so the evidence can stand that Kevin is buying arcade games when he's supposedly broke).
It's Called "selective memory". Citing things from the civil case... citing bits that can be spun in her favor... yet not telling the full story. Pretty much the basis for most of the misleading 'news' or stories on the web today. Spin to project an opinion and to influence... not actual reporting or informed coverage of a topic
Quoted from RyanStl:Unless this is a flash flood, there is no excuse for needing emergency rescue. Floods are very predictable and often take days or more to peak. Just think how much money was spent on the emergency rescue because they didn't take warnings seriously.
Come on dude... you are connected to the internet.. at least try to find out before insinuating such things without any basis. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/06/what_we_know_so_far_about_the.html
It rained 7inches overnight! After other rain... and kept raining.
Quoted from CNKay:You guys are brutal.
If I were in their shoes, I would have broke down long ago.
How long has this all been dragged out?
That other help fund us campaign is already down??
For the rest of their cheating, miserable lives, or until they refund every dime. Is that fair enough?
Quoted from flynnibus:Come on dude... you are connected to the internet.. at least try to find out before insinuating such things without any basis. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/06/what_we_know_so_far_about_the.html
It rained 7inches overnight! After other rain... and kept raining.
Thanks, your link confirmed, there was warning to get out. Now that you pointed out my laziness below is the hydrograph. The river peaked Saturday after the Thursday storm. The hydrograph is incomplete because I can't figure out how to get historical ones from NOAA, but the predictions are usually very close to what actually gets read from the gauges. That's because floods are very predictable when the rain is gauged, unlike tornados or earthquakes that are sudden events. The one thing I don't know is the elevation of their basement ceiling.
Quoted from Roostking:For the rest of their cheating, miserable lives, or until they refund every dime. Is that fair enough?
^^Exactly this ^^
John
Quoted from RyanStl:Thanks, your link confirmed, there was warning to get out. Now that you pointed out my laziness below is the hydrograph. The river peaked Saturday after the Thursday storm. The hydrograph is incomplete because I can't figure out how to get historical ones from NOAA, but the predictions are usually very close to what actually gets read from the gauges. That's because floods are very predictable when the rain is gauged, unlike tornados or earthquakes that are sudden events. The one thing I don't know is the elevation of their basement ceiling.
100% spot on. The fact that these morons needed to be recued by air boat makes me think this was all part of the plan to try and garner sympathy. Kids should be taken away from these inept parents that risked their lives for the fun and story of it all. This was not a flash flood event it was a normal periodic high water pulse which followed a normal, known, and predictable course based on the amout of rain and ground saturation. It took over 12 hours to even go from "uhoh, we got a lot of rain" to "look, the river is rising and we should get to higher ground (i got an idea, lets hook up that trailer we bought with stolen funds and go down the road 1 mile just tombe safe)". Most of this ocured during daylight hours and after the heavy rain had passed"
These people hoped it was their next scam.
I ask and encourage all people that had money stolen to reach out directly to the news station and reporter in particular to make sure she knows the real story here. THis could be a great opportunity to make sure this family is well known in th eregion and could stop them from fleecing countless others.
Contact brianna if you were scammed by the Kulek family. Sounds like if enough people reach out to help then there will likely be a follow up piece done. There were 17 with civil cases. There were hundreds that had funds stolen.
A simple email on this holiday morning could do a ton of good. Think how important it is to ensure these scam artists are exposed in their own community!
New documents and audio up on the associated case for VirtuaPin/Paul Maletich.
Audio up at: https://soundcloud.com/user-800669943/1ap2017-02002-20170623-133311
New documents below. Basically orders granting the defendants motion to set aside default judgement, and a second motion granting the trustee $900 from the previous lawyer Mr. Philpott because of his stupid defense that cost everyone time.
Quoted from RyanStl:Thanks, your link confirmed, there was warning to get out. Now that you pointed out my laziness below is the hydrograph. The river peaked Saturday after the Thursday storm.
What you expected them to pick up everything and move the house? They could have been trapped long before the peak of the flood anyways so that data proves nothing. They probably got out after realizing the incident was going to be a longer event and when the water kept rising.
People get flooded all the time without fear of physical harm... that's why people don't flee flood warnings. It's when the flood turns to historic levels or long term stranding that people needed to get out ahead.... and often they just wait too long and can't drive out.
In the grand scheme - proactive action would have changed little... saving their cars would probably been the biggest thing
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