Quoted from MrBally:I don't recall down voting your recent posts.
Sorry. I must have made a mistake. That makes TWO of 'em for this year now!
Quoted from MrBally:I don't recall down voting your recent posts.
Sorry. I must have made a mistake. That makes TWO of 'em for this year now!
Quoted from Pintucky:Sorry. I must have made a mistake. That makes TWO of 'em for this year now!
Boy, I would love to meet you one day, Mike. You have a good sense of humour and enough candor to "call 'em like you see 'em" but enough self-confidence to stand behind your (thoughtful) words and not use that phrase as a shield to just be a rude jerk. We should all be so lucky to be as clear-headed as you, at your or *any* age. Well done.
Quoted from Pintucky:So far, I've listened to two audio recordings of Kevin's court appearances. I THINK I read something on here yesterday that gave the impression there has been another one. But I can't find it. You know of a third recording?
Mike
I don't think there's a third one yet. Not an expert at all....but I think they're giving Keith like three weeks for something. Looking through documents (something about this 1,000 page spreadsheet or whatever)?
Probably missed something posted here. And those audio recordings were pretty long.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:We should all be so lucky to be as clear-headed as you,
Thank you for such nice words! Now . . . will you come here and tell that to my wife?!!!!!
Quoted from Nighthawk128:Is there an audio of his latest court appearance? Did he actually show up to it last Friday?
Quoted from Pintucky:So far, I've listened to two audio recordings of Kevin's court appearances. I THINK I read something on here yesterday that gave the impression there has been another one. But I can't find it. You know of a third recording?
Wasn't the only thing lined up at the moment for February 17, primarily to connect the bank statements with other records for the judge's review?
Quoted from cosmokramer:da fuck happened to this thread...
Words. Words happened.
Quoted from cosmokramer:da fuck happened to this thread...
Yada Yada Yada happened ... lol
Hello? Can someone point me to the Kevin Kulek discussion thread? I think I've lost my way in here.
Thanks.
Quoted from ZNET:Arguably, the Russian language sentence does what Communist Russian culture dictates, i.e. it emphasizes the action as the primarily important component of the thought. The fact that a boy is doing the pinball playing is subordinate and incidental to the pinball playing activity itself.
In contrast, the English sentence places the emphasis on the fact that there's a boy as the subject and that this boy is engaged in an activity (playing pinball). As Americans (and unlike Russian culture), we celebrate individual rights and the uniqueness of the individual.
I've heard this line of reasoning before. The only problem with it is that the grammatical structures of those languages evolved that way prior to the ideologies you associated with them. One could argue that the form influenced the mentality at least as much as the other way 'round.
Quoted from Pintucky:Thank you for such nice words! Now . . . will you come here and tell that to my wife?!!!!!
unfortunately, I seem to have no super powers in that regard
Quoted from John_I:If you go to the very first post in this thread, the key posts have been linked.
You don't have to go to the first post--just scroll to the top of the page to the key post section and click the link to reveal them.
Agreed. The tail wagging the dog causation is equally contributory toward that evolution. But, it's the link, as opposed to the causation, that I find most interesting.
Quoted from emkay:I've heard this line of reasoning before. The only problem with it is that the grammatical structures of those languages evolved that way prior to the ideologies you associated with them. One could argue that the form influenced the mentality at least as much as the other way 'round.
Quoted from multibrawlr:I'll just...quickly dip my toes in the pool and say that DutchTommy's a great guy in real life. Now he's raising a little pinball wizard of his own.
I bet the mother of the child begs to differ on that.
Carry on.
Quoted from GravitaR:I bet the mother of the child begs to differ on that.
Carry on.
curious what this is supposed to mean? Seems like a really odd thing to say to someone and could be insinuating something very negative about Tommy.
Quoted from the_one:I got informed today by the US Bankruptcy Court
you're welcome ...
Anyone have some ideas on where the money is?
I personally don't think Kevin ever received close to $1 million, but maybe half that. Still, that's a huge amount of cash that obviously wasn't all spent on empty cabinets and a few plastic spines.
Quoted from RobT:Anyone have some ideas on where the money is?
I personally don't think Kevin ever received close to $1 million, but maybe half that. Still, that's a huge amount of cash that obviously wasn't all spent on empty cabinets and a few plastic spines.
I think Keith probably has the best idea out of anybody where the money went. If Kevin does what the judge asked then we will also learn more about where it really went. Either way, stay tuned...
Quoted from multibrawlr:Now he's raising a little pinball wizard of his own.
Quoted from GravitaR:I bet the mother of the child begs to differ on that.
Quoted from Whysnow:curious what this is supposed to mean? Seems like a really odd thing to say to someone and could be insinuating something very negative about Tommy.
I'm gonna guess that GravitaR read that as "on his own" rather than "of his own".
Quoted from RobT:Anyone have some ideas on where the money is?
I personally don't think Kevin ever received close to $1 million, but maybe half that. Still, that's a huge amount of cash that obviously wasn't all spent on empty cabinets and a few plastic spines.
There might be a little tucked away somewhere, but I'm willing to bet that most of it is gone. Just like so many lottery winners they blow it on stuff or trips. If it's 500k, that could be gone pretty fast. 30k on the house, whatever a 32' 5th wheel costs, camera stuff and studio buildup. There's 100k right there. Then there were legit parts, cabs, tooling/machines. Even though he thought they had no value, they certainly had a cost. I get the impression that when he was flooded with cash that he wasn't overly frugal and was just pulling triggers left and right on parts orders and "business" trips to parade the game around.
Quoted from RobT:Anyone have some ideas on where the money is?
I personally don't think Kevin ever received close to $1 million, but maybe half that. Still, that's a huge amount of cash that obviously wasn't all spent on empty cabinets and a few plastic spines.
all just ideas at this point...
We have a good idea that his wife bought a house in her name and had him removed from title just days before completing the purchase. His wife has opened a photography studio and seems to have lots of expensive camera equipment which has showed up post predator money; makes you wonder. We have seen large apparant gifts from Kevin to his mother (32ft RV). There is evidence of him running a route business (business cards), photos of him attending auctions with Dave Truckel (his tall long haired buddy commonly called the Goat amongst people), people that build multicades stating he has requested quotes for build out of 60-80 cabs, and videos online of his kids playing some arcades in a trailer/storage. Sounds like he paid sizable amounts to Virtupin. Payments to Backalley? Payments to Spooky for playfields? It is pretty easy to add up over 200k with little effort.
I would guess he took in a minimum of 450k and a maximum of 750k. Just looking at the list of people owned money you can see that many paid in the 3k deposit, some paid in the full amount. Many even sent checks to avoid fees being charged. I even know one gentleman that told me he sent one full check for 4750 and was told there was an issue, so he sent another full check. Both were supposedly cashed. Simple math says that even if only 150 paid in 3k (and did not get chargebacks) that means he took in a min of 450k. I obviously have spent considerable time piecing many things together. I estimate he has atleast 200k sitting somewhere. I estimate there is atleast another 150k of assest that are readily recoverable.
You have to keep in mind that I assume the majority of us signed on with a lawyer to give a %. I can say that Keith is a very smart man and does nto work for free. My guess is that he thinks there is a similar amount that is easily recoverable (once things are all settled; and that is what Kieth specializes in...; if you thought he was good now, wait till he goes to get the money ).
Quoted from Whysnow:We have a good idea that his wife bought a house in her name and had him removed from title just days before completing the purchase. His wife has opened a photography studio and seems to have lots of expensive camera equipment which has showed up post predator money; makes you wonder. We have seen large apparant gifts from Kevin to his mother (32ft RV). There is evidence of him running a route business (business cards), photos of him attending auctions with Dave Truckel (his tall long haired buddy commonly called the Goat amongst people), people that build multicades stating he has requested quotes for build out of 60-80 cabs, and videos online of his kids playing some arcades in a trailer/storage. Sounds like he paid sizable amounts to Virtupin. Payments to Backalley? Payments to Spooky for playfields? It is pretty easy to add up over 200k with little effort.
Perahps my memory is faulty on this but wasn't there a picture of him and Aaron at a strip club as well? Again, I may not be remembering it correctly or maybe it was just a joke photoshop picture.
Quoted from Whysnow:all just ideas at this point...
Don't forget the CNC machine and all the odd small payments adding up to six figures made to VirtuaPins, only to build 10 cabinets, and then to make like Kevin's dad and disappear...
Quoted from Whysnow:I even know one gentleman that told me he sent one full check for 4750 and was told there was an issue, so he sent another full check. Both were supposedly cashed.
He wrote another check without cancelling the first check? You really can't make this stuff up. Some people truly do have more money than sense.
Quoted from BillySastard:He wrote another check without cancelling the first check? You really can't make this stuff up. Some people truly do have more money than sense.
I would call it more hope, trust, and desire to believe in something. If anything the sadness of someone like Kevin taking advantage of so many, continually reminds me of the good nature fo so many others. In order for any con artist to take so many, that means there are so many that like to believe! Sad but still a silver lining that reminds me how unique (call it dumb if you want) the pinball community can be.
The worst thing to me is when I hear of some where this event has completely ruined the hobby for them. I try to find the silver lining and in this case that will be seeing this all to completion and bringing as much legal misery upon the entire Kuleck gang as humanly possible. I hope this alone will help to restore some faith in those that lost it over this con.
Quoted from fosaisu:But can we trust your post since you didn't include your phone number?
Absolutely. But the thing of it is that nobody calls any more. It's like people are afraid of talking on the phone these days. If you want to call and discuss feel free.
John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, MI.
269-979-3836
Quoted from Dayhuff:Absolutely. But the thing of it is that nobody calls any more. It's like people are afraid of talking on the phone these days. If you want to call and discuss feel free.
John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, MI.
269-979-3836
Eh, sometimes it's considered intrusive these days to call someone out of the blue without pre-arranging a time to call via email or text beforehand.
Quoted from ForceFlow:Eh, sometimes it's considered intrusive these days to call someone out of the blue without pre-arranging a time to call via email or text beforehand.
Tell that to the telemarketer that calls at 6pm in the evening!
Quoted from vdojaq:Tell that to the telemarketer that calls at 6pm in the evening!
Well, the average person. Telemarketers are always annoying--that hasn't changed.
I hate talking on the phone. As forceflow notes, I prefer it to be a scheduled thing like a meeting or a "hey, can we talk tonight?".
Quoted from Dayhuff:Absolutely. But the thing of it is that nobody calls any more. It's like people are afraid of talking on the phone these days. If you want to call and discuss feel free.
John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, MI.
269-979-3836
Hold on, just let me find my calling card, know it's around here somewhere ...
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:I hate talking on the phone. As forceflow notes, I prefer it to be a scheduled thing like a meeting or a "hey, can we talk tonight?".
Sheesh,.....what did you guys do before email and texting?
John
Quoted from Dayhuff:Sheesh,.....what did you guys do before email and texting?
John
screen calls with an answering machine
Quoted from Dayhuff:Absolutely. But the thing of it is that nobody calls any more. It's like people are afraid of talking on the phone these days. If you want to call and discuss feel free.
John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, MI.
269-979-3836
If I call, will you read me the time and temperature in a sexy voice?
Quoted from metallik:If I call, will you read me the time and temperature in a sexy voice?
I'll bet he ends the call in a Leslie Neilson voice:
"This has been John P. Dayhuff, Battle Creek, Michigan."
Quoted from chadderack:I'll bet he ends the call in a Leslie Neilson voice:
"This has been John P. Dayhuff, Battle Creek, Michigan."
You omitted his killer closing line:
"269-979-3836"
Quoted from Coyote:Jeez, this thread has taken so many detours in the last couple days..
I guess because we all sometimes need a good laugh and things are a bit slow right now with nothing accurate to report for a while. I'm sure by the 17th it will be we'll back on course with the pitchforks in hand. Keep it coming guys.
John
Quoted from ForceFlow:I'm so tempted to call John right now just because of this conversation
Not until you make an appointment first.
John
Quoted from chadderack:I'll bet he ends the call in a Leslie Neilson voice:
"This has been John P. Dayhuff, Battle Creek, Michigan."
Assuming John will be selling parts at the Ohio show, I'll probably think of this post and start laughing uncontrollably while browsing his parts thus making myself look crazier than I already look .
correct me if I'm wrong but I think the main thing that Currently is happening is as close to an exact amount as possible be determined as far as the amount of money that was deposited into any and all accounts (personal or business)that occurred thru the whole process of deposits being made on the project. AKA forensic accounting.The real dollar amount will probably never be known but I'm sure Keith knows what the total amount the persons he represents is. Now douchebag has to prove thru bank records/or a legitimate paper trail what was actually spent on the the project. The fact that he had no license will undoubtly anger the judge in addition to little or no business paperwork records being kept. For example did skit b file a legitimate tax return?I'm hoping the judge( May God have mercy on your soul) will see the fraud element of this case and hold him entirely accountable for all deposit money from all persons represented by keith. Hopefully the end result is a sheriff sale of anything purchased with deposit money and also of personal belongings to pay back the money that was misappropriated.
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