If Keith is silent right now, it's probably a sign that Douche McTurd showed up and is being grilled as we speak.
We can only hope.
If Keith is silent right now, it's probably a sign that Douche McTurd showed up and is being grilled as we speak.
We can only hope.
Quoted from robbiedoo:If Keith is silent right now, it's probably a sign that Douche McTurd showed up and is being grilled as we speak.
We can only hope.
agreed
I also would not expect to hear anything until things pop up on PACER. Once it is public then I am sure wolf will be able to grab it so we can all hear the details. I caution anyone form getting to excited at this stage. Still a long way to go in this ordeal, but we can rejoice in the fact that kevin is hopefully having a very shitty day
Quoted from Whysnow:but we can rejoice in the fact that kevin is hopefully having a very shitty day
OR, he's in Mexico sipping a Margarita!
fingers crossed that we can get the audio........dare to dream, but do these proceedings ever record the video as well?
Quoted from spfxted:OR, he's in Mexico sipping a Margarita!
F that noise Ted. It's just above freezing in Tucson this morning (sub-32* last night though) and we don't drink margaritas unless we can wear flip flops. It's got to be at least 50* for that to happen.
When it's this cold Rumchata is where it's at.
Quoted from cliff_clavin:fingers crossed that we can get the audio........dare to dream, but do these proceedings ever record the video as well?
If he showed up, what's going on today would be a 2004(b) exam...
Quoted from KeithinMI:Court proceedings are always recorded. Most of the time in bankruptcy matters, they are made part of the docket in the manner this one was.
2004(b) exams are typically done with a court reporter and while recorded to be transcribed, unless the transcript is ordered, it would not typically become public record like the recording of the court proceeding.
Any Court proceeding that may occur on Friday will be recorded and I would surmise, be available on PACER.
Quoted from Pintucky:Yeah, good ole Mort. He began his broadcasting career at my hometown station in Louisville, KY back in the late 1960's and early 1970's. He worked at WHAS-TV, the CBS affiliate. I loved his voice and knew he wouldn't stick around for long. His delivery was perfection. He was gone to better money in just a few years. The only thing that sort of made me think he was not credible, was that he was a part-time preacher at that time too! A preacher preaching the news! It just seemed odd. I'm glad to know he is still alive.
Mike in Kentucky
I worked at Channel 4 in the 90s in operations - microwave feeds, tape playback, etc...
Mort was a good guy. He may not remember your name each day, but he waved or said HI all the time.
PACER has updated with "Filed & Entered: 01/27/2017 Docket Text Minute Entry. Hearing Adjourned (BK)"
Something happened today. There are no recordings or anything posted yet. I'll keep checking occasionally.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:PACER has updated with "Filed & Entered: 01/27/2017 Docket Text Minute Entry. Hearing Adjourned (BK)"
Something happened today. There is no recordings or anything posted yet. I'll keep checking occasionally.
What he said... looks like there will be an order eventually but maybe not today.
Nobody clicked that "34"? What's the "Order on Motion for Contempt"? Possibly something generic rather than specific to the case.
What I see is that the Contempt order was continued (delayed) until February 17 at which time a status conference will occur. Looks like more delays to me.
Already been posted a ways back, it was the document that led to Kulek being "escorted" to last week's hearing.
Referenced again in today's entry (as "continued" aka "extended") because it is the sword hanging over his head if he does not "play nice" from here on out.
I still don't understand how he is "home schooling his kids" and then says he has a job interview... wut
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:I still don't understand how he is "home schooling his kids" and then says he has a job interview... wut
I think the safe answer is that he's a liar.
Quoted from KeithinMI:take a look at item #44. That's the best news so far.
c508, can you post?
Quoted from HighVoltage:Nobody clicked that "34"? What's the "Order on Motion for Contempt"? Possibly something generic rather than specific to the case.
I just googled it. Looks like if he disregards the order of the court / judge he will be held in contempt of court.
I translate this to mean:The Judge AKA " Mr. do what I order you to do or May God have mercy on your soul" has given more time to produce the records that have been requested but if not produced by the next court date be prepared to spend some quality time in a cage and get served three delicious meals a day all the while being Big Tony and Tyrones new Bitch !
item number 45 is yet even more fun and worthy of another fine PinSide drinking game.
K
Mr. Accoutrement
"I am Legend"
So it's not going to be discharged, but is there a full value tied to it? $1.2M was the max if everyone paid in full. Many did not and some forcefully chargebacked their cards. I'm not even going to guess at the number, but I think KK is F'd no matter if the number is $200k or $900k. I'm just curious what the numbers were settled at if they were.
Quoted from Compy:Congrats guys
Awesome! I couldn't be happier to see this for everyone with money in, couldn't end the week on a better note, hopefully this is one giant step towards Kevin seeing the inside of a cell and everyone's money being found and returned.
P.s. Amazing work Keith
Quoted from J85M:everyone's money being found and returned.
Well that's not going to happen. Maybe they will get something back and that's the best they can hope for......plus Kevin going to jail.
Quoted from osudrummer:*Waiting for Layman's terms*
I agree.
Can someone put into english exactly what happened today?
Quoted from Trekkie1978:I agree.
Can someone put into english exactly what happened today?
Yup...legalese for dummies, please!
I think, if I read it right, that (in really short terms):
The judge ordered that Kevin couldn't file bankruptcy.
Kevin and his lawyer put in a condition to that, requesting that all debts after June 3rd 2016 can still be discharged, but the ones on and before that date cannot be discharged. Meaning, he still owes everyone.
And that, I believe, that would conclude a Trustee's hearing/proceeding "16-4644"?
Great progress Legal Team ... but what to focus on for the next THREE WEEKS? Guess I'll have to play more pinball.
I'm no lawyer, but I believe the court denied his request to file bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy allows you to get out from under your obligations and debts you owe.
And the court said No.
Discharge Denied
If the court finds the objection is valid, you may be denied a discharge. Some reasons for denying discharge include:
Hiding property
Destroying financial books or records
Failing to turn over tax records
Making false statements, orally or in writing, about your assets, earnings and debts
Not explaining or accounting for the loss of property or money
Failing to complete a required credit counseling or financial management course
Violating a court order
Failing to tell the court about a prior bankruptcy case
Getting a Chapter 7 bankruptcy discharge within the past 8 years
Getting a Chapter 13 discharge within the past 6 years
A discharge denial doesn't stop your bankruptcy case. The trustee may continue to sell your nonexempt assets to pay off your creditors. You lose your nonexempt property as well as your chance to discharge your debts. Even worse, if you lie to the trustee or creditors, fines or jail time are possible for fraud.
Quoted from Trekkie1978:I agree.
Can someone put into english exactly what happened today?
Sure, not a lawyer, but here you go:
1) Kevin's bankruptcy case was discharged and denied, so he's still personally liable for the debts to you guys and anyone else.
2) However he has likely avoided seeing the inside of a jail cell for bankruptcy fraud.
3) Other motions to collect on the debt in civil court will likely continue.
I'm curious what is significant about trying to continue to dismiss debts incurred after June 3rd 2016? Did Kevin Kulek purchase $1.2M in German bearer bonds after this date and is trying to scam somebody else?
Quoted from jasonp:A discharge denial doesn't stop your bankruptcy case. The trustee may continue to sell your nonexempt assets to pay off your creditors. You lose your nonexempt property as well as your chance to discharge your debts. Even worse, if you lie to the trustee or creditors, fines or jail time are possible for fraud.
This is accurate. The 11 USC 727 a 10 is a stipulated denial of discharge as opposed to a lawsuit filed within the bankruptcy (adversary proceeding) seeking a denial of discharge. A denial of discharge means that any debts due and owing (listed or not) in the bankruptcy case cannot be discharged.
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:I'm curious what is significant about trying to continue to dismiss debts incurred after June 3rd 2016?
Is that when he originally filed for bankruptcy?
Seems reasonable that if he was trying to file to resolve claims prior to that date, that claims subsequent to that date should not be relevant.
Quoted from Compy:2) However he has likely avoided seeing the inside of a jail cell for bankruptcy fraud.
What about fraud for the money he collected?
Quoted from goingincirclez:Is that when he originally filed for bankruptcy?
Seems reasonable that if he was trying to file to resolve claims prior to that date, that claims subsequent to that date should not be relevant.
Post-petition debts (debts incurred after filing) would not be discharged in any bankruptcy proceeding.
K
Mr. Accoutrement
"I am Legend"
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