Quoted from Concretehardt:
Pretty nuts that your average bank robber doesn't get away with 1/20th the amount of cash that K-Douche made off with and yet there is no crime here??... I don't get it!
It gets tricky when people willingly give $$$, vs being robbed. I hope he gets what's coming to him though..
As far as I know there are still MANY cases against SkitB and crew and while they are moving along at the glacial pace of our US court system all things point to there being ample reason to see them out to the end and hopefully go collect on $$$. I can tell you there is a certain amount of gratification just in knowing that some people have these cases looming over their holiday season, regardless of the final outcome.
Quoted from Whysnow:
If you have any proof of this please feel free to forward it on to KeithinMI. More evidence of him continuing to spend cash at things like arcade auctions may be useful as discovery continues.
I'm not getting involved and getting subpoenaed.
Plenty of pics of him at the last auction here on Pinside.
Somebody just go kick his azz already...!!!...only satisfaction anyone will get...!!!............Joey
You did not get enough in the Pinball News interview?
"Do you solemnly swear to tell the middle truth, the whole middle truth, and nothing but the middle truth so help you God?"
"Swearing is hard"
Quoted from Enaud:
Been there, done that. That son of a bitch lied his ass off in my court session with him. No satisfaction. The judgment is accruing interest, but I'll probably never see a cent.
I'm sorry about that bro. You did the whole nine yards and chased down the entire process. 200 years ago this would have been settled already. No pretentious talking.
Originally the criminal charges were not pursued since Kevin told the investigators he was still planning to make the machines, that he was working through licensing and other such statements that we all know to be BS. Makes me wonder if there is a chance to get the authorities to take a second look at some point. Probably needs to be higher up the food chain then the local police/DA, which it should be, since this is really a federal crime, since it cross state boundaries. I guess these days it is hard to see this registering as worthwhile with the feds, unless there is some linkage to funds being routed to support terrorist activity or some other major threat.
Still haven't received my empty Virtua Pin cabinet that he was paid in full for...
Apparently it was spent on CNC equipment instead, not a bad deal if you ask me to only make 10 cabs... I paid for the cabinet by way of Kevin I guess.
He would look better in orange.
As a retired LEO I am still shocked that he did not get charged criminally (yet). I know well that one of the elements needed to prove the crime of fraud is "intent" to defraud. Intent is difficult to prove, and that is apparently the rock he is hiding underneath right now. It looks like the authorities did not present enough evidence of that to the authorizing agency. They still can charge him, and the longer this plays out the greater the possibility is that they will have enough evidence to get a warrant. They are better off waiting until they have a rock solid case. And the contribution of additional evidence by people who have been defrauded does help to get a warrant later. If they go to trial and lose he is free for life because you cannot put a person on trial twice for the same crime twice.
The statute of limitations goes on for quite awhile yet. So do not give up on a criminal prosecution. Hang in there my pinball brothers. This is not done yet by a longshot. They just need enough evidence to convict him "beyond a reasonable doubt". A warrant will be authorized at that time. Intent could even be inferred by the amount of time lapsed. Or maybe enough evidence will be obtained that he never pursued his licensing.
Quoted from playernumber4:
A warrant will be authorized at that time. Intent could even be inferred by the amount of time lapsed. Or maybe enough evidence will be obtained that he never pursued his licensing.
I spoke with the legal counsel at Fox, personally. He told me that Kevin never had and never will get licensing. Shouldn't that be enough for Keith to subpoena that information from him?
Oh, it seems so simple, yet so impossibly difficult.
Is there a statute of limitations on this type of behavior? I understand waiting until you have your ducks in a row, but don't want to run out of time.
Any news on whether or not this liar & thief is getting what he deserves?
Can't let this just fade into background noise.
What's odd about this one, is unlike jpop where jpop wasted all the money and ran it into the ground where there was no hope of finishing, Kevin has said there WAS money and everyone WOULD get a refund. But short of credit card chargebacks, no one has seen any money and there's never been an explanation of what happened to it. So, literally hundreds of thousands of dollars is unaccounted for.
Quoted from Concretehardt:
At this point it seems the only way JPOP & Kevin risk any legal consequences is if they fail to pay taxes on all the money they ripped off from their "customers"
Please check if Legal advises and will notify IRS.
It has helped me in the past in litigation to collect.
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