Quoted from fosaisu:Did they steal money from their subscribers?
Eh, maybe not. I guess if they delivered stolen IP to them, they didn't, that the difference here. Skitb never did.
Quoted from fosaisu:Did they steal money from their subscribers?
Eh, maybe not. I guess if they delivered stolen IP to them, they didn't, that the difference here. Skitb never did.
Quoted from tracelifter:You can bet the credit card companies are going to go after Kevin Kulek, they are not going to take these chargebacks lying down.
The credit card companies have no relationship with Kevin - they would have to go after paypal. That's the burden paypal has, and why they are so cut-throat with their users.
On one hand, I hate Paypal because they're not helping. On the other hand, I'm happy with them because they froze his account...so they can take money from him. They're just putting up a front and hiding behind their policy because it's easiest.
As far as Fox is concerned, I would think that just by stopping his production, that should be enough. He didn't make a profit and neither did anyone working for him (providing we get our money back), so hopefully they'll leave him be and not make it worse.
If Kevin was smart, he would have said
"Refunds will start in 6 months, after I have my attorney figure out a refund strategy with the remaining funds".
Quoted from vid1900:If Kevin was smart
If Kevin was smart none of this would exist!
Quoted from vid1900:"Refunds will start in 6 months, after I have my mom figure out a refund strategy with the remaining funds".
FTFY
Quoted from vid1900:Has anyone seen proof that he actually did have a mom?
You know who will call the hospital...
As for his mom, she was the only one at MPE who gave me any time! Kevin could have cared less I was even there.
Quoted from hollywood:As for his mom, she was the only one at MPE who gave me any time!
From what I saw, that wasn't all she gave you.
#rimshot
If there is any money left in his Paypal account, there is no way anyone gets a dime until Paypal itself, uses the funds to pay back the credit card companies who have already issued chargebacks to customers.
I met the mom expo 2013, the one where Predator never turned on.
She told me they were going to start production the following week.
Also not to worry the only thing that they had spent any of money on was a new couch.
On Monday I emailed asking for a refund.
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:the only thing that they had spent any of money on was a new couch.
On Monday I emailed asking for a refund.
What are gold plated couches going for anyways, a cool million?
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:I met the mom expo 2013, the one where Predator never turned on.
She told me they were going to start production the following week.
Also not to worry the only thing that they had spent any of money on was a new couch.
On Monday I emailed asking for a refund.
Did you see or smell the bullshit or was it a combination of both?
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:I met the mom expo 2013, the one where Predator never turned on.
She told me they were going to start production the following week.
Also not to worry the only thing that they had spent any of money on was a new couch.
On Monday I emailed asking for a refund.
did you get the refund?
Quoted from Trekie:rommy said:
If you are a victim please gather the following to report to,the detective in midland. Please don't wait. Please call,him right away.
1- all your details, DOB, address, how much you paid, when, how much, in a one page summary email. Include dates! Declare yourself a victim of KKK and here are my details.
2- evidence of any contact you had with KKK - notes from phone calls, recorded messages, and emails. Attach all this to your email.
3- another email attached labeled Web Links where you put links to incriminating videos, podcasts, and websites. There will be lots of duplication but don't worry about that just do it.
I have to make you find his phone number yourself. Detective Brent Benzing with the Midland County Sheriff. Only 5 people have reported today...WTF!?!
Don't lay down for this! Call the detective! Gather info and email the detective ! That information is bullets in his gun.Bump
Right now, as we speak, KKK is relaxing. He DOES have counsel now. They are taking the position that NONE of this is criminal, it's all civil. His position is he never lied, never defrauded. Don't let him do this to us. Help prove to that detective what a rat bastard snitch Kevin Kulek is.
Bump
Quoted from Trekie:Right now, as we speak, KKK is relaxing. He DOES have counsel now.
I wasn't a victim, but I read this and get *really* angry. It's not the counsel that angers me (unless he's paying for it with Predator money), it's the 'relaxing' part. I frigging loathe narcissists. I would have never run a business the way he did, but if I wound up in his position somehow, I'd have bleeding ulcers and would be giving it my all to make things right.
I know people like this scumbag. One of them was actually someone my friends and I grew up with. I couldn't stand him much after the age of 17.
He'd borrow money constantly (we all added it up once ... it was north of $30K over a 5 year period + he owes one of them months of rent after his wife wisely dumped him and he had nowhere to go ... he never attempted to pay back so much as a dime yet always seemed to have money for concerts).
He was recently busted sharing child pornography online. The scumbag managed to get out of jail with the help of one of his scummy girlfriends posting his bail ($200K). She believed him when he said that he downloaded an encrypted file. They're both dead to me now. Eighteen counts of child pornography (two external harddrives filled with it) and he only got 3 months in jail + Megan's list. From what I have heard, he is still acting like he's the victim.
I really hope everyone takes legal action and succeeds. Do not give up ... it seems like he's banking on that. If this scumbag is the way I think he is based on experience with this class of human garbage, he thinks he'll be able to ride out this mess and walk away with your money as he more than likely feels that he's entitled to it despite failing to deliver you a product. He will do this again unless he's stopped. He's the normal one in his mind. I suspect he's not worried in the least. In his world, assuming I'm right, you're all the irrational ones. That kind of thinking drives me batty for lack of better terms. I know I posted a lot of conjecture, but people who exhibit these kinds of traits all seem to be of the same breed.
If you are a victim please gather the following to report to,the detective in midland. Please don't wait. Please call,him right away.
1- all your details, DOB, address, how much you paid, when, how much, in a one page summary email. Include dates! Declare yourself a victim of KKK and here are my details.
2- evidence of any contact you had with KKK - notes from phone calls, recorded messages, and emails. Attach all this to your email.
3- another email attached labeled Web Links where you put links to incriminating videos, podcasts, and websites. There will be lots of duplication but don't worry about that just do it.
I have to make you find his phone number yourself. Detective Brent Benzing with the Midland County Sheriff. Only 5 people have reported today...WTF!?!
Don't lay down for this! Call the detective! Gather info and email the detective ! That information is bullets in his gun.
Bump
Right now, as we speak, KKK is relaxing. He DOES have counsel now. They are taking the position that NONE of this is criminal, it's all civil. His position is he never lied, never defrauded. Don't let him do this to us. Help prove to that detective what a rat bastard snitch Kevin Kulek is.
Bump
Don't let this fall by the way side! Don't let Kevin Kulek play you for a chump.
Feel free to stop using "KKK" and replace references with "Kevin" when copy/pasting that message again....
Quoted from mcc:Feel free to stop using "KKK" and replace references with "Kevin" when copy/pasting that message again....
Yes, using kkk is stupid. Using his full name will attach him in google searches forever. kkk is just confusing.
Quoted from Nibbles:Kevin Whitney Kulek, not to be mixed up with his dad Kevin Mitchell Kulek
Bump for clarification.
Quoted from Crash:Whitney does not start with K.
So KWK... as in "KWK, take the money and run"
On a watch site, someone created a website with the crooks name that provided all the details. I believe they eventually settled with the victim and it was removed.
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:I met the mom expo 2013, the one where Predator never turned on.
She told me they were going to start production the following week.
Also not to worry the only thing that they had spent any of money on was a new couch.
On Monday I emailed asking for a refund.
Shortly after this show I was able to get my 250 deposit back. Only took 2 weeks but now it looks like I barely made it out in time.
Best wishes to all of you what a horrid situation.
Quoted from KingDaddy:Has anyone considered calling the FBI and having him investigated, criminally charged and arrested?
I'm guessing you haven't read the thread. The FBI is involved through the local detective that everyone has been talking to.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:I'm guessing you haven't read the thread. The FBI is involved through the local detective that everyone has been talking to.
Nice - I don't even have time to read a newspaper anymore, let alone the "War and Peace" this thread has become.
Quoted from KingDaddy:Yup, a Google search lasts forever... I would list his full name and details as much as possible.
Indeed it does. I wonder how many webpages reference Kevin's bad conduct. I hope it isn't just Pinside.
Does anyone know if Kevin has a job? If his wife has a job? Or who his attorney is? Thanks in advance.
Quoted from TigerLaw:Does anyone know if Kevin has a job?
Does scam artist count as work?
Quoted from TigerLaw:If his wife has a job?
She is a photograph taker that really needs to learn proper lighting, camera settings, and how to not constantly over/under expose shots - http://www.laumephotography.com/
Quoted from TigerLaw:Or who his attorney is?
Probably is his mom.
Quoted from Nibbles:She is a photograph taker that really needs to learn proper lighting, camera settings, and how to not constantly over/under expose shots - http://www.laumephotography.com/
Oh god. I think she is one of those people who buy a Dslr, set it to auto, and then becomes a "professional photographer"
Quoted from asay:Oh god. I think she is one of those people who buy a Dslr, set it to auto, and then becomes a "professional photographer"
Hahahahahaha!
My wife and I joke about this all the time. Having a baby is this weird mutation event that turns moms into one of several things (or all).
- Professional Photographer that just bought a DSLR
- Selling essential oils, thirty one, sex toys, or any other MLM scheme they can get involved in
- Nutrition/Cooking/Health blogger
- Crossfit expert
Quoted from Nibbles:She is a photograph taker that really needs to learn proper lighting, camera settings, and how to not constantly over/under expose shots - http://www.laumephotography.com/
I first read that as 'lame' photography, and then after going to the site . . . was not sure I did mis-read it.
Quoted from rosh:I first read that as 'lame' photography, and then after going to the site . . . was not sure I did mis-read it.
DO NOT GO TO LIVE BIRTH PAGE
Quoted from rosh:I first read that as 'lame' photography, and then after going to the site . . . was not sure I did mis-read it.
Lightroom is your friend....
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:Hahahahahaha!
My wife and I joke about this all the time. Having a baby is this weird mutation event that turns moms into one of several things (or all).
- Professional Photographer that just bought a DSLR
- Selling essential oils, thirty one, sex toys, or any other MLM scheme they can get involved in
- Nutrition/Cooking/Health blogger
- Crossfit expert
LOLOLOLOLOL
That's so true
Quoted from asay:DO NOT GO TO LIVE BIRTH PAGE
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/d26038_6f94ec50653a4131a181bb44cfd6ceb4.jpg_srb_p_1342_895_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb Oh.....my.....GOD!
Quoted from herbertbsharp:LOLOLOLOLOL
That's so true
I also forgot start a craft making business, i.e. something that ends up on etsy or local craft shows.
Vinyl lettering/graphics is one I always see.
I'm wondering if we can just ask the detective for Kevin's Attorney details? Would he give this info out? If so we might be able to get some sort of communication through him instead. I'll send the detective an email asking anyway.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:Hahahahahaha!
My wife and I joke about this all the time. Having a baby is this weird mutation event that turns moms into one of several things (or all).
- Professional Photographer that just bought a DSLR- Selling essential oils, thirty one, sex toys, or any other MLM scheme they can get involved in- Nutrition/Cooking/Health blogger- Crossfit expert
I used to be one of the top 10 sellers in one of these types of companies when they were new, then once they turned into a "recruit every single person you can" pyramid scheme I bailed out quick. I went from earning free trips to Vegas, NYC, and Naples Florida to only getting my hotel paid for at training and getting emails saying "since you aren't recruiting, we are dropping your buying discount to below what new people sign up at." Screw that.
I know all about market saturation and that the average busy housewife can't run a business as well as I could with my marketing degree... but they didn't care. You'd be amazed at how hard they market and push their "sales reps" to go after new moms and lonely housewives, because they need extra spending money and/or some purpose in life. It's pretty predatory... and that's how I'm linking this back to Predator.
Quoted from blondetall:I used to be one of the top 10 sellers in one of these types of companies when they were new, then once they turned into a "recruit every single person you can" pyramid scheme I bailed out quick. I went from earning free trips to Vegas, NYC, and Naples Florida to only getting my hotel paid for at training and getting emails saying "since you aren't recruiting, we are dropping your buying discount to below what new people sign up at." Screw that.
I know all about market saturation and that the average busy housewife can't run a business as well as I could with my marketing degree... but they didn't care. You'd be amazed at how hard they market and push their "sales reps" to go after new moms and lonely housewives, because they need extra spending money and/or some purpose in life. It's pretty predatory... and that's how I'm linking this back to Predator.
Amen.
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