Newman's Own is not a non-profit corporation. They are a regular corporation that voluntarily donates its profits to a separate non-profit organization.

(Furthermore, neither of those two entities would be legally able to market a Predator-themed salad dressing without a license)

Newman already did that with his Predator Popcorn.

They are not a non-profit - they have a foundation that is.

Newman's Own is a food company founded by actor Paul Newman and author A.E. Hotchner in 1982. The company gives 100% of the after-tax profits from the sale of its products to Newman's Own Foundation (a private non-profit foundation) which, in turn, gives the money to various educational and charitable organizations.

which coincidentally would be a welcomed addition while you're getting your salad tossed in prison...

Damn, anyone else get that auto-reply from the Detective?

Shit just got real.

Can it be shared?

Well, Kevin was right about one thing.

If he tried to build 250 games at $4750, it would surely be at no profit.

And that's the middle-truth, Lyin'Man!

Also got the Detectives email. He basically says he has asked the FBI for assistance as the number of victims is so large, and that people send him the info which Rommy described earlier. He also asked for patience as he deals with the whole thing.

I'll do it privately but please don't post publicly. We know the site is being watched.

Speaking of, hey Kevin's lawyer that I'm paying for. This can all go away if you just pay us back.

No harm no foul, right?

Ok, nevermind.

Watching Jared's interview again reminded me that I am the guy who wrote the big, critical review of the game from the Louisville show. He mentions how things were great at that show and he didn't understand the negative feedback. I know some people thought I was being too critical, but I can assure you, I was being very nice. The game was a mess and had a lot more problems than 'a fuse blew at one point'. You can't believe what the guy says at all. As Arnie would say: "Come on now... don't bullsh*t me."

Just FYI - if the FBI decides to "help" ... Then it's all a negotiation on how much time he will serve. Thus surprises me a bit. And if you were KKK - right about now fleeing the country would start to look viable.

Don't stop calling yall. If you are a victim CALL him. once is enough . Do not just sit on your ass and email. Call him that one time please.

250 times 10 years per count...just think if he pisses off the judge by lying to him as well and he goes for consecutive terms. If this is fed time he could be looking at a life changing event and more than 10 years in the penitentiary. If I were him....I would be soiling my trousers to say the least.

Full on shit storm now.

Seriuosly man. Gave him more than a month to return the monies. Didn't want it to come to this, but that wasn't my choice.

Jpop better wake the f up.

Email sent to the detective - joining the Hunt -; no answer yet.

Kevin, wake up.
Time is running out... do something, start refunding people for real...or this will turn very ugly very quickly.

I would have forgiven a $250 "donation" but no way I can accept a $3250 (best case) to $4750 loss without a fight... and I was one of your strong supporters. Imagine how others feel about this.

So if you read these lines... Act. Now.

Do we have a contact for the FBI to reach out to as well?

Oh, I'd also like to add to you Kevin, or Kevin's attorney. Even if I receive my money back from a credit card chargeback, I will not consider this a proper refund, and will not drop any criminal complaint that I have.

There's only one answer to what happened, Kevin Kulek is a lying, fraudulent idiot.

I actually do, but he is copied on all the emails.

This is excellent!!!!

His 3 little girls will grow up without a father!!!!!!!!!!!11

Too late now.

If it's gone Federal, every penny of deposit will need to go to a real lawyer's retainer.

Great. Kevin Koolaid is going to prison and the lawyers are getting our money. I'm never trusting a pot head again.

Can you tell me?

This is starting to sound like an episode of Breaking Bad or Sopranos.

Best Pinside post ever!

It makes me sad that this excites you. I'm all for justice but his daughters did nothing and will be victims of his actions. This is not something to cheer about.

EDIT: Sarcasm. Never tried it. =P

don't lump as all together...

Google "Middle Truth" ....Along with the new definition the first two search items already fit the term to a tee. It is actually a common thought process of those who believe truth is relative to an individuals perspective.

It is an incorrect school of thought, especially in this context.

In what world would that be excellent

I keep thinking of this episode and the Kettlemans... "What money?"
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i don't think that you got the sarcasm in the post...

that being said, sorry, i have no sympathy... kevin kulek knew what he was doing, and if his children have to go for visiting hours, so be it...

Sarcasm is so easily lost on the interwebs...

Nope. Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.

I think I figured out what he means by "middle truth", (although your definition is certainly more entertaining). As I said in one post, there are three sides to every story, in this case AG, Kevin and the third, being the actual truth, which lies somewhere in between or 'the middle'. I guess Kevin decided that he is going to tell us what the 'middle truth' is -- but that is not how it works, he only gets to tell his side, he does not get to tell anyone what the truth is, since we know he is 'truth challenged'.

Whether we ever get the 'middle truth' is doubtful, but the primary thing people care about right now is not the truth (although that would be nice), but the money -- show us the money!!!

I'm not sure how that works, our claim is he absconded with our funds under false pretenses and used our money for his personal use; if his answer is to abscond with the rest of it to pay a lawyer a retainer for his personal use he may be digging himself an even bigger hole.

Just my personal opinion but he needs to refund the money he has left and not let his lawyers eat further into our money.

Vid was being sarcastic. He is not happy about that possibility...he was just pointing it out.

Middle truth....also known as

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

Know the middle truth, and the middle truth will set you free...from your responsablity.

"Your Honor, I was going to transfer the money back to the PayPal account in two weeks. Besides, we always go camping this time of year."

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Even if it went the other way, the end result is the same:

Kevin has no Predator money left.

He mortgages his $20,000 home to pay a federal criminal attorney.

Now he has less than zero to make restitution.

Usually the !!!!!!!!11 is enough to signal sarcasm for anyone who's been on the net for more than a year.

But, let the thumbs down roll, bitches!!!!!

There's no way vid. I estimate about a quarter is gone. There's no way it's "all" gone.

you'd be surprised how easy it is to spend what seems like a very large amount of money...

not really the same thing, "argument to moderation" states that the truth is a compromise of the positions, I'm saying the truth is the truth, and it typically lies between them, but is not a compromise. In some cases it may be comprised of elements from the two sides, but I don't view it as a compromise. Heck, in some cases it could turn out to be 95% one side, 4% from neither side , 1% from the second side -- and I doubt the person on the 1% side, would consider that a compromise.

In this case I expect the truth we are looking for is likely 20% of what AG is saying, 20% of what Kevin is and 60% that neither one is saying the truth about in their version of the story (e.g. Why did Aaron K leave?, I doubt it is what Kevin has claimed, and not something AG has talked about, where is the money -- not believing it is all in paypal safe and secure).

Don't forget, punk rocking is hard.......

True.

I've let more money slip through my fingers than I could legally earn in 2 lifetimes.

Got nothing to show for it but a smile on my face and scar on my butt.

Dude! I actually wish he got away with the down under games but at the same time once it blew up he had to do the right thing and he did not. Not one refund. So in the end he proved he was a snake and therefore having daughters is not a free ride to rape everyone here and get away with it.