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#6651 4 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

Porn movies too? Uh oh...
Now is that FULL movies or just choice scenes downloaded?
A friend wanted me to ask, btw...

I think if you are snagging from something like xhamster, I think you're safe. Since many companies upload their own stuff there as kind of a preview snippet. So I saw on foxnews anyway.

#6652 4 years ago
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#6653 4 years ago

$150,000 for each porn movie.

I could probably film 10 of them for that....

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/hundreds-sued-for-downloading-porn

#6654 4 years ago

There are three sides to every story. At this point we have heard AGs side, and I still want to hear Kevin's side, and then the third side of the story is the truth, and sits somewhere in between, and hopefully Martin can get us all closer to that truth, but I doubt we will ever really know the whole truth.

Certainly based on the info we do have, including info from Kevin, there seems little to no doubt that Kevin has committed fraud and ultimately he will need to pay the consequences for that. However, I find calling him a scumbag, as some have done to be a little over the top. I don't think Kevin set out to rip people off. I think he thought he could pull this off and obviously that was pretty dumb and naive and I have to think some of those close to him, knew that and they also should be held accountable, since they did nothing to stop it (and I would still like to hear from his original partner Aaron as well, and if the partnership broke up over the licensing issue and he chose to just move on and not go public, then I have an issue with that -- I am not saying that is the case, but that is part of the story we would all like to know).

Lets be honest, had he shipped games on time, he might have pulled this off, but I still believe, since he wanted Skit-B to be an ongoing concern, at some point it would have caught up with him. So, did Kevin defraud 250 or so people, certainly seems so, is Kevin stupid and naive thinking he could pull this off and not get caught, absolutely. However, as I said, I want to hear his side of the story, obviously with his track record on communication and truthfulness, anything he says would have to be taken with three tons of salt, but I'd still like to hear it and I still like to see Martin dig deeper to get us closer to the truth, although I don't think we will ever really know the whole story and the whole truth.

I believe Kevin and Martin have indicated we would be hearing more on this, and getting Kevin's side. Hopefully we will hear that soon, since this continues to drag on far longer then it should and that is clearly not fair to those who have forked over hard earned money.

Of course most important is that everyone gets their money back. I would estimate that Kevin has spent less than $150K, possibly less than 100K so to get the prototype built, purchasing parts he now has on hand (which can be sold off), traveling to shows, etc. That is certainly not an outrageous amount for him to borrow from friends, family, etc. in order to be able to pay back all the money he has collected.

#6655 4 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Of course most important is that everyone gets their money back. I would estimate that Kevin has spent less than $150K, possibly less than 100K so to get the prototype built, purchasing parts he now has on hand (which can be sold off), traveling to shows, etc. That is certainly not an outrageous amount for him to borrow from friends, family, etc. in order to be able to pay back all the money he has collected.

A man who lives in a $50,000 house is never going to be able to borrow $150,000 from friends or family because he could NEVER pay it back.

#6656 4 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

There are three sides to every story. At this point we have heard AGs side, and I still want to hear Kevin's side, and then the third side of the story is the truth, and sits somewhere in between, and hopefully Martin can get us all closer to that truth, but I doubt we will ever really know the whole truth.
Certainly based on the info we do have, including info from Kevin, there seems little to no doubt that Kevin has committed fraud and ultimately he will need to pay the consequences for that. However, I find calling him a scumbag, as some have done to be a little over the top. I don't think Kevin set out to rip people off. I think he thought he could pull this off and obviously that was pretty dumb and naive and I have to think some of those close to him, knew that and they also should be held accountable, since they did nothing to stop it (and I would still like to hear from his original partner Aaron as well, and if the partnership broke up over the licensing issue and he chose to just move on and not go public, then I have an issue with that -- I am not saying that is the case, but that is part of the story we would all like to know).
Lets be honest, had he shipped games on time, he might have pulled this off, but I still believe, since he wanted Skit-B to be an ongoing concern, at some point it would have caught up with him. So, did Kevin defraud 250 or so people, certainly seems so, is Kevin stupid and naive thinking he could pull this off and not get caught, absolutely. However, as I said, I want to hear his side of the story, obviously with his track record on communication and truthfulness, anything he says would have to be taken with three tons of salt, but I'd still like to hear it and I still like to see Martin dig deeper to get us closer to the truth, although I don't think we will ever really know the whole story and the whole truth.
I believe Kevin and Martin have indicated we would be hearing more on this, and getting Kevin's side. Hopefully we will hear that soon, since this continues to drag on far longer then it should and that is clearly not fair to those who have forked over hard earned money.
Of course most important is that everyone gets their money back. I would estimate that Kevin has spent less than $150K, possibly less than 100K so to get the prototype built, purchasing parts he now has on hand (which can be sold off), traveling to shows, etc. That is certainly not an outrageous amount for him to borrow from friends, family, etc. in order to be able to pay back all the money he has collected.

Personally, I think you're greatly downplaying Kevin's deceit and wrongdoing. Good intentions or not, he flat out lied. Repeatedly. I don't care if he thought he could get away with making the games without getting license approval. He knowingly and repeatedly lied to his customers many of whom asked him point blank "Do you have the license"? People never new the risks they were undertaking because of his lies.

As far as funds spent, let's be honest, you have no idea. All you or anyone can do is estimate money spent on what we've seen and been told (pictures of cabinets, parts, etc.) But you have no idea if money was spent traveling the country to shows, or on employees, or even to themselves for that matter. No clue. I guess we'll only know in a few months when we say how many people were refunded money and how much.

#6657 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

$150,000 for each porn movie.
I could probably film 10 of them for that....

Looking at your Pinside -avatar I hope not.

#6658 4 years ago
Quoted from PinChili:

Personally, I think you're greatly downplaying Kevin's deceit. Good intentions or not, he flat out lied.

He lied.

We all get it.

#6659 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

$150,000 for each porn movie.
I could probably film 10 of them for that....
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/hundreds-sued-for-downloading-porn

Let me know if you need a guy to sit on the set and just watch.

#6660 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

he could NEVER pay it back.

Never/Ever is a long time. I once lived in a house worth not much more than 50K, and now my pin collection is probably worth close to that. Things change with time. Not saying it would be easy to raise that money and then pay it off, but he needs to find a way to do it, to make things right.

#6661 4 years ago
Quoted from Mr68:

Looking at your Avatar I hope not.

In the porn world, 100 year old man with 18 year old chick is second in popularity only to black man and white chick.

#6662 4 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Never/Ever is a long time. I once lived in a house worth not much more than 50K, and now my pin collection is probably worth close to that. Things change with time. Not saying it would be easy to raise that money and then pay it off, but he needs to find a way to do it, to make things right.

If Kevin had the skills to earn more money he would not have bought a $50,000 house.

99% of people buy the most house they can possibly afford.

He's got 3 kids, so he would want them to grow up in the best possible neighborhood, not a $50,000 hood.

I agree that it would be great if he had a way to make things right.

Maybe bankruptcy will be the fresh start his family is going to need.

#6663 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

If Kevin had the skills to earn more money he would not have bought a $50,000 house.

He didn't buy the house, his wife did...

#6664 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

99% of people buy the most house they can possibly afford.

Those are some dumb people.

#6665 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

If Kevin had the skills to earn more money he would not have bought a $50,000 house.
99% of people buy the most house they can possibly afford.
He's got 3 kids, so he would want them to grow up in the best possible neighborhood, not a $50,000 hood.
I agree that it would be great if he had a way to make things right.
Maybe bankruptcy will be the fresh start his family is going to need.

I don't think business purchase order money or money under investigation can be applied to a personal bankruptcy case.

#6666 4 years ago
Quoted from PinChili:

Personally, I think you're greatly downplaying Kevin's deceit and wrongdoing. Good intentions or not, he flat out lied. Repeatedly. I don't care if he thought he could get away with making the games without getting license approval. He knowingly and repeatedly lied to his customers many of whom asked him point blank "Do you have the license"? People never new the risks they were undertaking because of his lies.
As far as funds spent, let's be honest, you have no idea. All you or anyone can do is estimate money spent on what we've seen and been told (pictures of cabinets, parts, etc.) But you have no idea if money was spent traveling the country to shows, or on employees, or even to themselves for that matter. No clue. I guess we'll only know in a few months when we say how many people were refunded money and how much.

I clearly stated he committed fraud and knowingly did so by lying about those things and I have said that in previous posts. What I said is I don't believe he started out intending to defraud people, but clearly that is what he did. But as I said, I think calling him a scumbag is a little over the top, but I'm sure many here will disagree with me on that, and we are all entitled to our opinion and to voice such.

I believe I do have a pretty good idea on what he has spent, and you are welcome to look at posts I have made in this thread and in others on pinside that demonstrate that I have enough background, experience and knowledge to make an educated guess. Of course, you are certainly welcome to disregard all of that and disregard my estimate.

#6667 4 years ago
Quoted from Nibbles:

He didn't buy the house, his wife did...

I know.

But, if you had 2 pennies to rub together, you would not let your wife buy a $50,000 house to raise your kids in.

22 year old, single guy living in the hood, that's OK.

Family of 5 living in the hood, not so good.

#6668 4 years ago
Quoted from starfighter:

I don't think business purchase order money or money under investigation can be applied to a personal bankruptcy case.

He never registered a business of any kind. Not a Corp, S-Corp or even a DBA.

It's all personal.

#6669 4 years ago

LOL, "Beauty and the Senior"... Thanks Vid, I can't unsee that.

#6670 4 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

I have enough background, experience and knowledge to make an educated guess. Of course, you are certainly welcome to disregard all of that and disregard my estimate.

What does experience have to do with knowing what he spent? Again, how can you possibly know how much he paid to himself or other employees? As I said, you can only estimate what was spent on the parts shown to date, no?

#6671 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

If Kevin had the skills to earn more money he would not have bought a $50,000 house.
99% of people buy the most house they can possibly afford.

I guess I am in that 1%, but I agree most folks do that, assuming they will be making more money in the future, so that ultimately it will be less of a financial burden to pay off the mortgage. I'm just not someone who subscribes to that belief (and too many Real Estate folks push people that way, and that certainly contributed to the whole Real Estate market collapse, and cost many folks their homes). 80% of the population does not have enough savings to go more then a few months if they lost their job. And that has nothing to do with how much money they make, since I've also seen folks making over $150K get in deep financial trouble quickly after losing their jobs (which I do find just mind boggling), too many folks believe in living for today and getting what they want today, and not worrying about tomorrow. I personally have zero debt, which is tied to how I was raised -- don't spend money you don't have.

I have no clue how old you are, but plenty of people as they age, develop skills, experience and knowledge that let them make more in relative terms to what they were making in the 20s. I suspect that is the case with you. Hopefully, for Kevin sake, he will be able to learn and grow from this experience and be more successful in the future.

#6672 4 years ago

Look how many lottery winners file for bankruptcy......

#6673 4 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

I guess I am in that 1%, but I agree most folks do that, assuming they will be making more money in the future, so that ultimately it will be less of a financial burden to pay off the mortgage. I'm just not someone who subscribes to that belief (and too many Real Estate folks push people that way, and that certainly contributed to the whole Real Estate market collapse, and cost many folks their homes). 80% of the population does not have enough savings to go more then a few months if they lost their job. And that has nothing to do with how much money they make, since I've also seen folks making over $150K get in deep financial trouble quickly after losing their jobs (which I do find just mind boggling), too many folks believe in living for today and getting what they want today, and not worrying about tomorrow. I personally have zero debt, which is tied to how I was raised -- don't spend money you don't have.
I have no clue how old you are, but plenty of people as they age, develop skills, experience and knowledge that let them make more in relative terms to what they were making in the 20s. I suspect that is the case with you. Hopefully, for Kevin sake, he will be able to learn and grow from this experience and be more successful in the future.

Credit is actually a very good idea when you manage it properly. It builds a financial history, people who lend money like history, so God forbid something happens and you need a loan, a good credit history is a must.

#6674 4 years ago
Quoted from PinChili:

What does experience have to do with knowing what he spent?

I know how much it costs to build a prototype, including the BOM, having done so, I know how much it costs to get molds made for vacuum forming ramps, I know the cost/time involved in coding a game with the depth of Predator, having done that (and having seen the Predator code), I know how much effort/time it takes to create the animations and sound, having done that, I know how much it costs to hire an artist to do playfield and cabinet art, and I have reasonable knowledge on how much going to a show and travel cost, and I have a decent enough sense of how many shows he went to.

You are correct, I do not know how much he paid himself as I also don't know how much income he had coming in from other sources that would impact that. But sans that, I believe that based on what I do know, that my educated estimate is in the correct ball park.

I also know that it does not matter what I say here, since you have already decided to disregard my opinion on this, which you certainly have every right to do.

#6675 4 years ago
Quoted from Matt_Rasmussen:

Credit is actually a very good idea when you manage it properly.

A very valid point and I did I have mortgage at one time that I paid off. However, I believe that credit card debt, unless accumulated due to emergency or basic needs, is a huge and costly mistake.

#6676 4 years ago
Quoted from PinChili:

What does experience have to do with knowing what he spent?

experience is no good eh?

lol- what trait WOULD be useful in making an estimate? Good looks?

Absent PROOF (which is about the scarcest item in this thread), 99% of what's discussed here is educated guessing....

btw, he clearly said he was making an estimate? So whats your problem? For someone who complains incessantly about being "personally attacked" you certainly don't shy away from criticizing others.

On a more positive note: congrats on your 4 week anniversary here on pinside.

#6677 4 years ago
Quoted from lowepg:

experience is no good eh?
lol- what trait WOULD be useful in making an estimate? Good looks?
Absent PROOF (which is about the scarcest item in this thread), 99% of what's discussed here is educated guessing....
btw, he clearly said he was making an estimate? So whats your problem? For someone who complains incessantly about being "personally attacked" you certainly don't shy away from criticizing others.
On a more positive note: congrats on your 4 week anniversary here on pinside.

What is YOUR problem? Why do you have a hard on for me? I was making one simple point, that there is no way to estimate the money he decided to pay to himself (or other employees) and how much money he used to cover travel expenses over the past several years. Therefore, we have no idea how much money is left.

Quit trying to create drama and start another argument to derail this thread.

#6678 4 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

LOL, "Beauty and the Senior"... Thanks Vid, I can't unsee that.

At least you missed him removing his adult diapers.

#6679 4 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

I know how much it costs to build a prototype, including the BOM, having done so, I know how much it costs to get molds made for vacuum forming ramps, I know the cost/time involved in coding a game with the depth of Predator, having done that (and having seen the Predator code), I know how much effort/time it takes to create the animations and sound, having done that, I know how much it costs to hire an artist to do playfield and cabinet art, and I have reasonable knowledge on how much going to a show and travel cost, and I have a decent enough sense of how many shows he went to.
You are correct, I do not know how much he paid himself as I also don't know how much income he had coming in from other sources that would impact that. But sans that, I believe that based on what I do know, that my educated estimate is in the correct ball park.
I also know that it does not matter what I say here, since you have already decided to disregard my opinion on this, which you certainly have every right to do.

strange you bring up these points.when I first get on pinside the two big points I find id people like to challenge for really little to no gain..second thing I notice is very little experience as to the real cost of manufacturing .mostly guessing.no clue of mold costs as you mention as well as so many small cost and problems that add up fast..besides all this it takes manufacturing experience to pull off something like this..this project never went that far so kevin never made it out of the gate in reality.no need to convince those who are not fully involved in a major production project ..just smile and be thank full you have a clue

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#6680 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Look how many lottery winners file for bankruptcy......

You can't stop stupid.

#6681 4 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

You can't stop stupid.

No but most of the time you can see it coming and take evasive action.

#6682 4 years ago

I have enough money to collect pinball machines, but I must live in a slum because my house only cost $50, 000.

There are a lot of houses next to me for sale for only around $50,000, most of the people on Pinside must be too wealthy to notice us poor people.

I simply live in a small country town where housing costs less than in a big city like most of you rich Pinsiders live in.

I am in to Kevin for the full amount of the Predator game, but I am not whining about it as much as you rich guys who can afford a more expensive house than my $50,000 dollar house. I new it was a gamble when I paid my money and was willing to accept it whether I won or lost the bet.

It appears that I lost the bet, but it is only money.

#6683 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

I have enough money to collect pinball machines, but I must live in a slum because my house only cost $50, 000.

Let's run with this.

Family of five?

Would you honestly be able to borrow $150,000 cash from friends and family ?

#6684 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Let's run with this.
Family of five?
Would you honestly be able to borrow $150,000 cash from friends and family ?

Does it matter how large of a family I have, people seem to think a $50, 000 dollar house on Pinside is a slum house.

No I would not borrow $150,000 from anyone, in fact I have given a few thousand to people over the last few years.

I am retired on a fixed income and believe me my income does not go as far as it did when I first retired. I still say it was only a bet to win or lose and why cry over a lost bet.

#6685 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

It appears that I lost the bet, but it is only money.

Did you try to get your money back through the CC company?

#6686 4 years ago
Quoted from spfxted:

Did you try to get your money back through the CC company?

I paid by check, at the time Paypal would not take my credit card due to the fact a company that I did business with was hacked.

I probably should have not paid by check, but I was very much interested in the Predator game. I guess it is never to late to learn even when you are close to 70.

#6687 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

Does it matter how large of a family I have, people seem to think a $50, 000 dollar house on Pinside is a slum house.

You are completely missing the point. That point being that its a good chance with the equity position of that value that a young guy has no means to borrow more.
Its not an insult at you or anyone else.
Relax!!

#6688 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

but I was very much interested in the Predator game. I guess it is never to late to learn even when you are close to 70.

It's not over yet. Let's hope more people get their money back.

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#6689 4 years ago

Bernie Madoff began with the best of intentions... Early on, when he had his first shortfall, his decision to "cook the books" was with the intent of making the money back and "straightening" everything out. He considered it a temporary setback, and likely rationalized his behavior. He never set out to be a "crook" - he fell into it, through a series of poor decisions that kept mounting until there was a point of no return.

Similarly, Kevin no doubt began with the best of intentions. And, like Madoff, at some point he realized he was in trouble. But rather than coming clean, he chose a similar path of deceit - with the false hope that things would "work out."

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

#6690 4 years ago

Need a little address information if anyone has some details. Please PM me because this is private and is related to legal action.
Now, about the address as recorded on whois, I cannot find a recorded parcel of such with the registrar of deeds in Midland, Michigan. So, I suspect it is a fake address (I hope I'm wrong, because I've mailed certified letters to that address with no response to date). Does anyone know where Kevin lives and can provide an address? Again, please PM, do not post publicly.

Thanks.

#6691 4 years ago
Quoted from KingDaddy:

Bernie Madoff began with the best of intentions... Early on, when he had his first shortfall, his decision to "cook the books" was with the intent of making the money back and "straightening" everything out. He considered it a temporary setback, and likely rationalized his behavior. He never set out to be a "crook" - he fell into it, through a series of poor decisions that kept mounting until there was a point of no return.
Similarly, Kevin no doubt began with the best of intentions. And, like Madoff, at some point he realized he was in trouble. But rather than coming clean, he chose a similar path of deceit - with the false hope that things would "work out."
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

...or he is a lying crook

#6692 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

I guess it is never to late to learn even when you are close to 70.

You're only as young as you think you are.

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#6693 4 years ago
Quoted from jonnyo:

That means nothing has been filed. That does not mean no one is putting legal pressure on him. Fox telling him "We're going to sue you unless you do X and pay us X" is not a matter of public record.
I'm not a lawyer but this seems pretty open and shut for Fox. Going to court just means a lot of time and money to Kevin's lawyer to maybe lose a little less. It's in his best interest to settle with Fox if he can.

Companies aren't financially dumb, either. They aren't going to spend money just for the point of it. If they deem that they would spend more money on their lawyers, fees, and the suit than what they can possibly get out of it, they are not going to do it. If Kevin doesn't have any money, there is no point in Fox suing at all - it would be a waste of money. Large companies are very disciplined when it comes to this - that's why you see larger companies settling all the time without admitting fault - because settling is actually cheaper than going to court and winning. Whatever makes the most financial sense wins in the end.

#6694 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

Does it matter how large of a family I have, people seem to think a $50, 000 dollar house on Pinside is a slum house.

I'm sure there are areas of the country where $50,000 will buy you a perfectly good home.

But in Midland MI, a 2 bedroom box is $82,000 and even a trailer is $76,000.

You don't exactly want to put a family of 5 in those areas....

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#6695 4 years ago

Welcome to Bergen County! $50K= a carport!

#6696 4 years ago

Read this article on ArsTechnica today and reminded me of this whole situation:

“Unquestionable greed”: The startup CEO who stole $765k from his friends
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/unquestionable-greed-the-startup-ceo-who-stole-765k-from-his-friends/

#6697 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I'm sure there are areas of the country where $50,000 will buy you a perfectly good home.
But in Midland MI, a 2 bedroom box is $82,000 and even a trailer is $76,000.
You don't exactly want to put a family of 5 in those areas....

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76000 trailer.jpg

there ya go house hunting on the good side of the tracks

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#6698 4 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I'm sure there are areas of the country where $50,000 will buy you a perfectly good home.
But in Midland MI, a 2 bedroom box is $82,000 and even a trailer is $76,000.
You don't exactly want to put a family of 5 in those areas....

My youngest sister, who is 19 years younger than me, and probably is about the same age as most Pinsiders, is very happy that her two sons, two daughters, and their families all live in the same trailer court as she does. My sister works two jobs and can barely get by.

My whole point is that most of the people on Pinside have more disposable income than the average person does. To most Pinsiders a loss the size of the cost of the Predator pinball does not mean too much. You can tell by the homes Vid posted what he thinks of people with lower incomes. I am sure he would think my house is not a very nice place to live.

I do not say that losing $5,000 to Kevin does not affect me, probably it does even more than a younger person because I do not have as much time to recover the money, but I have learned that money does not mean as much as a lot of other things in life do.

#6699 4 years ago

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#6700 4 years ago
Quoted from HomeBrew:

My youngest sister, who is 19 years younger than me, and probably is about the same age as most Pinsiders, is very happy that her two sons, two daughters, and their families all live in the same trailer court as she does. My sister works two jobs and can barely get by.

I think you have stretched my point way beyond any implication from me, lol.

My entire point was that if Kevin lives in a $50,000 house with a family of 5, he is not going to have any way to borrow $150,000 "from family or friends".

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The fact that your sister and her offspring live in a trailer park is not important to our discussion.

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Playfield - Decals
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Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
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Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
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Lighting - Other
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Matt's Basement Arcade
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Eproms
Matt's Basement Arcade
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Cabinet - Decals
Pinball Haus
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Electronics
Third Coast Pinball
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Cabinet - Decals
Pinball Haus
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Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
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