Quoted from Rarehero:
Nah it's pretty similar. It's come to light that Jpop hasn't paid vendors and had burned a ton of bridges - he has never shown a working proto (at least Shit-Mask had that)...and he's never shown he has the capability to manufacture. As far as I'm concerned, they're both misfit dreamers who took money with no logical endgame.
I gave this a thumbs-down. Not because I disagree with that there should be more info put out, but because I disagree with the characterization and conclusions. As someone else noted, John may be slow and stubborn, but he knows the realities and details of the biz (having worked hands-on with B/W and Zizzle, etc.), and he is not lying or deceiving customers.
As for the "working proto," I've seen both games in person recently. John probably could have put together a basic flipping whitewood a couple of years ago, if he put in the basic hardware and software first with some general pin components. But anyone can do that, and John knows that (and has done it before). His approach (as a designer, I guess) is to design a full game first, and then "bring it to life" with known hardware and programming pieces. Which is why MG already looks like a production game and RAZA looks like one with just a few pieces to be finalized and bolted down. Kinda like sewing a frankenstein body together first, and the last step being zapping it with a lightning bolt.
Yep, more info would be great and appropriate. Hopefully we'll see some soon. I do know John has 1 or 2 real options for manufacturing in place. There are a bunch of these types of companies around Chicago still. Saw pics of the space for one of them. But it may be a confidentiality issue (or still considering other options) preventing more details being made public yet--I didn't ask.
Still, not the same. At all. (And remember, zero licensing issues with MG or RAZA.)
Quoted from Honch:
You've got brass, man! You're an active player in the other pre-order meltdown and you have the nerve to come on this thread and pile on.
If you call it brass to post in this thread, try to correct some misperceptions/misinformation raised in this thread, then ok, I have it. But I'm not "piling on" here. I think the Predator mess sucks and sympathize with all who pre-ordered. There was a lot of blatant deceit going on, and I do find it very surprising there was NEVER any license. So I get how others who pre-ordered feel the same way. And I also see how the JPOP issue is different, as noted above.