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The Official JJP GnR Owners Thread

By Dallas_Pin

3 years ago


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“Which one are you buying”

  • CE 188 votes
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  • LE 628 votes
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  • SE 77 votes
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Post #34 Feature matrix listing differences for each edition. Posted by Dallas_Pin (3 years ago)

Post #414 GNR Manual - link to JJP site Posted by knobstone (3 years ago)

Post #434 Full Song List Posted by Concretehardt (3 years ago)

Post #755 TECH: PLAYFIELD. Guitar Neck Lock Release tip Posted by kermit24 (3 years ago)

Post #1017 TECH: LIGHTING. Troubleshooting spot light motion issues Posted by wdbthree (3 years ago)

Post #3837 How to use jukebox mode Posted by kermit24 (3 years ago)

Post #4098 TECH: PLAYFIELD. Flipper adjustment tips Posted by Eskaybee (3 years ago)

Post #5052 TECH: PLAYFIELD. Shooter rod power. Change barrel spring. Posted by WannaPinball (3 years ago)

Post #5235 Scorbit jjGnR integration FAQ Posted by jsa (3 years ago)


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#673 3 years ago

Ordered an LE couple of days ago...

Missed a CE by an hour or so .. but I’m not a die hard G&R fan.. but this game looks too good to pass up!

#1078 3 years ago

It’s a good possibility that all LE’s will sell out by early next year.

That’s some serious cash injection into JJP... with that kinda cash that is on the table JJP should invest in getting the factory pumping out the games... Double shifts if they have too!

Get these games out before Stern release another title.. LZ.. I’m not concerned with, but you can bet that Stern WILL be looking at the games they have in development and picking one that WILL derail JJP G&R momentum.

Back To The Future... James Bond.... the hint at one of these games coming out will affect sales

#1090 3 years ago
Quoted from romulusx:

I don’t think a ship the size of Stern could change direction that quickly.
And misdirection would backfire!

I think it could by Feb/ March when the next game after LZ

#1317 3 years ago

OK- so there is chipping on the scoop hole on a game.. Not sure why no picture has been shown.. but is out there..Clearly making playfields is Hard.

I hear directly that only a handful of playfields are affected.
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I’m still in for an LE!

#1325 3 years ago

Scoop outer edge doesn’t look to be flush.
At the Scoop front where the playfield slopes the scoop doesn’t look to slope that much or it is not aligned properly . It the ball is hitting that as it goes in/ comes out you are going to have a ball that is covered in dings/ dents/ burrs.. that is going to scratch the hell out of the playfield..

But 100% right, JJP should have made a assembles that covers the edge too..thinking AFM saucer hole Cliffy over to you!

#1326 3 years ago

JLebowski maybe right..

This picture has surfaced.. but is unclear of what game it is from.. if it is from a production game with 1000’s of plays/ prototype assembly or if it is out of a recently unboxed game with a few hundred.. I don’t know..

The scoop sides are dented/buckled, especially the left side.. Don’t look to be attached to the inside of the scoop- so what?.. a protector that goes round the back that protects the scoop sides?

#1398 3 years ago

Notice the pooling on the left post on the upper playfield in picture above ‍

#1574 3 years ago

Can we get the date codes of the games that are pooling/chipping!? - Playfields are date stamped right..

Mirco said a handful of Playfields affected.. so if we can see the production dates on the games - if they are near each other then we have a batch to AVOID at all costs!

#1593 3 years ago

OK- so we know Helicon has a game that is pooling.. can we get a picture of the date stamp?

The other playfield pictures.. where are they coming from?...

#1710 3 years ago

It’s a sound bar with a plastic stand up in front of it, for the most part..

Buy a soundbar..
someone will make a G&R plastic piece.. guarantee it

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#2106 3 years ago

Do you guys in the US not have a trading standards organisation?

I have spoken to a trading standards office here in UK and quality like this would warrant refund/replacement of product!

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#2409 3 years ago

What are distributors saying for G&RLE’s now..

I just got bumped from December delivery to sometime in 2021 because I asked about what they would do if my playfield was a dud!

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#2733 3 years ago

Why did he sell it on so soon? If you don’t mind me asking!?

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#3655 3 years ago

With the extra 25%!?

1 month later
#5687 3 years ago

I’m looking for some side blades for G&R LE.. I’m not too sure on the LEGENDARY ones, and not keen on the speaker ones..

I do like the mirror blades from Pingrafix for AFM & DI..

3 months later
#9639 2 years ago

Hey All

So got a G&RLE coming soon - what stuff is recommends for the game..
I have the Art of Pinball shooter housing, lockbar surround and Bullet shooter rod sorted.

What is this Pinwoofer Kit I’ve been hearing about? How easy to install is it?

Is this the best sound mod to get?

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#10501 2 years ago

I’ve found a company here in UK - make silicone washers any size/shape and can add adhesive backing to the washers..

Or how about this company- makes vibration dampening bushings / washers..

Maybe a bushing through the post hole.. like a flipper bat..

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#11017 2 years ago

If there was a kit available to do this- I would buy one!

#11026 2 years ago

@fooflighter
Appreciate your posting on the pooling. I can’t see your pictures tho.

The PETG washers, what is the diameter of them? My game arrives very soon, and I want to put washers on before playing a game.

My question is this- would a smaller diameter washer work (same size as post) or do you think that would cause pooling?

I was thinking post, metal washer and then PETG washer under that.. what do you think?

#11173 2 years ago

The above is what I was thinking also.. there is a silicone company that can make bushings to size..

All I need is the dimensions.

#11174 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

The above is what I was thinking also.. there is a silicone company that can make bushings to size..
All I need is the dimensions.

#11180 2 years ago
Quoted from ZMeny:

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#11185 2 years ago
Quoted from RETROCENGO:

THIS is why JJP GnR Pinball playfields are Chipping:

I would really appreciate High_End_Pins insight I to this development.. could this indeed by the cause of the pooling/chipping.

What would you High_End_Pins do for the posts?

#11282 2 years ago

fooflighter - could you tell me how many posts are there?

Game has yet to arrive.

The PETG washers.. are they Pinballlife.. and what size do I need to order.

Thanks

#11307 2 years ago

Thanks fooflighter for the detailed post. Much appreciated

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#12109 2 years ago

More G&R finally arrived in the UK!

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#12111 2 years ago

My game is May 21 build..

Not played a game yet- game is up on its legs and I’ve put it in jukebox mode..

Over the next week or so:
Replace posts with larger WPC posts
Put washers under posts
Check coil stops
Install Cliffys

What else do I need to check?
Magnets?

Game arrives with silicone sling rubbers and upper playfield has silicone flipper rubber..
but lower normal rubbers..

#12112 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

My game is May 21 build..
Not played a game yet- game is up on its legs and I’ve put it in jukebox mode..
Over the next week or so:
Replace posts with larger WPC posts
Put washers under posts
Check coil stops
Install Cliffys

What else do I need to check?
Magnets?
Game arrives with silicone sling rubbers and upper playfield has silicone flipper rubber..
but lower normal rubbers..

#12184 2 years ago

I’m replacing JJP posts with WPC ones- Tight fit, post doesn’t move

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#12188 2 years ago

I was going to take the DI manual to a printing place, along with Wonka & G&R download manual (or show them where to find them)

And get the Manuals printed the same quality and paper size as the DI manual.

It will be costly.

#12228 2 years ago
Quoted from hool10:

What is the part number and how many posts do I need? I'm probably picking up like 50 or whatever silicone washers today.

They are the same posts as on the TAF bookcase..

The post do not move - no wiggle room at all!

Quoted from cooked71:

If you are replacing the problem posts mentioned here (upper pf and in the pops) those posts are secured with t-nuts. To accommodate the t-nut itself, the hole is wider than both those posts. Won’t make any difference - they’ll both still have ”wiggle room”. Unless there are instances where JJP is installing those posts on the left (which are meant for t-nuts) in holes design for the post on the right (which is meant for smaller through holes).

Taking the T Nuts out of the pop area - trust me.. the WPC posts don’t move at all.. Try one

#12236 2 years ago

@thot

Not sure - So far I have done the 3 outlane posts..
On my playfield- I had to gently Tap the posts in with a hammer, until thread was out the bottom, then the nut pulled the posts in.

My Playfield posts in the bumper area - not sure if JJP has used loctite or something. I can’t undo the posts.. Not sure what I’m going to do to get them out.

#12249 2 years ago
Quoted from punkin:

Take the nut off the bottom of the post?

yup done that. There is also T nut that the post screws into.

They have been tightened hard! Socket set not touching it.. socket just slips!

#12251 2 years ago

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#12329 2 years ago

What’s the latest software?
My game is running 1.21..

#12375 2 years ago

Hi All.. sorry, where do you get the Beta code for G&RLE?

I’m on 1.21 - game downloads 1.22
But fails to verify.. any suggestions?

Thanks

#12380 2 years ago

What’s peoples
Thoughts- just fitted Cliffy protector on scoop..
The main piece. I put the hole protector from JJP back in..

I didn’t use the small Cliffy that goes on the back.. what are people doing?

#12391 2 years ago

Fitted the Cliffy protector at the scoop- went pretty well, took me about 2 hrs.

Took a break before re connecting the upper playfield wires.. and can’t remember if I unplugged these two from each other.. yellow wires

Actually they are both female so no idea - an little help!?

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#12605 2 years ago

Seems that these posts at the outlanes are just as bad.. As mentioned I have put these posts in- they have no movement at all in the hole, so washer shouldn’t be able to move

I had to tap them in gently with a hammer, but in the upper playfield the hole is bigger. Guess we will see.

I have only put 8 games on mine so far.. as it’s been super hot in UK and my games room is at 40 degrees.. too hot to play

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#12606 2 years ago

Should all the posts at the outlanes have rubbers on?

My game on left only 1 post had one on

#12607 2 years ago

Do the playfields with issues have this under the playfield?

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#12612 2 years ago

Supposedly a Quality check on the playfield- I guess assuring Clear quality.. but not worth the playfield it’s written on.. ☹️

I have been lucky with my D.I LE and my Wonka CE.. but I fear the worst with this one.

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#13104 2 years ago

What are peoples thoughts on swapping the post out with a WPC post from opposite the upper right flipper.. I see it gets a lot of hits and is chipping/pooling on some games.

Can’t replace it with a longer post an nut, as it is directly above a circuit board and only has T nut to hold it.

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#13106 2 years ago

If I gave a toss..

#13107 2 years ago

At least your not delusional like the US.. who count medals by the numbers not the medal metal..

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#13535 2 years ago

No pooling at all here..

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#15285 2 years ago

The diverter on the right ramp- I’ve not actually noticed it working, it works in Test mode.. what circumstances does it kick in?

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#16028 2 years ago

Hi All
Tried Downloading full update.
Put the USB in and turned game on.

Got a different screen to usual- something about a Data Block!? with 2 bars that were going..
Never seen that before. Is that right for this download?

keefer @check_switch_26
Could you confirm this is right? Or have I messed it up?

Thanks

#16083 2 years ago

@mtp78
The noise is coils firing, it is the 2 coils operating the ball lock posts on the centre lock.

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