Yep, included by default. JJP was an absolutely joy to work with to make it happen. Amazing people.

I realize it can be expensive, depending on the use case. It takes a lot to manage the cloud infrastructure and manage the hardware. That being said, for standard (home) accounts, we're offering a one year free promotion on the website for standard accounts (although JJP machines are free always anyway).

The app is new and in development, so we'll release features on that as fast as we can. You should also check out the ScorbitVision visualizations available to all users if you get a chance, it can really brighten up a game room. (Although I know some of you guys love your dark and sinister dungeons.) Instructions on how to use all that stuff is here: https://support.scorbit.io/hc/en-us/sections/360011974773-ScorbitVision-Guides

We welcome feedback on all of this of course!

No...sorry for the confusion. To clarify:

Right now, all standard subscriptions are free for a year (see the website).

For ten games, standard accounts (not including JJP games, which are free), you subscribe (aka get licenses) for a flat rate (pricing is $6.99/mo or $69.72/yr for up to 10). Each tier gets you any number of games up to that max, and then the top tier is unlimited. I hope that makes sense.

For hardware, the price drops as you have more active devices total. For each tier, the total cost per unit drops, until you get to $199/unit.

Also, again, all Jersey Jack machines are free. No hardware is required *at all* and no subscription is required (but you do have to register and set up your account or it won't work).

All of this is on this webpage: https://scorbit.io/scorbitron/

ScorbitVision basically allows you to create four types of web objects:

1. Scoreboards, which are URL that show you a live version of the current game being played in an attractive way for a larger screen. These can be anywhere from 1 machine to 8 machines on a screen. Note that it will display scores and modes where supported (JJP supports modes).

2. Leaderboards, which are URLs that display specific machine's leaderboard or a global leaderboard (we're adding many other types soon). Similar to scoreboards, these can be from 1 to 8 machines on a screen.

3. Slideshows, which are URLs that display Scoreboards and Leaderboards in any sequence, with timers, etc.

4. Streamboards, which are a series of templates that build URLs designed for pinball streaming and OBS.

Here's a demo. The ScorbitVision part comes on after the introductions and the game is going:

Ok, so for that, all you need is the app.

For now, at the end of each game you play (with or without Scorbit connection to the game), you can submit your score.

We are adding an auto-submit feature to the app for people who have already claimed a slot to auto-submit to the leaderboard. (You can tell Scorbit you are player (n) any time you want during the game and up to a couple minutes after, or when a new game starts, whatever comes first).

Note that there are two leaderboards: One is the one for you specific game. Two is the global leaderboard.

To view the global leaderboard right now, you must create a view of it with ScorbitVision, as the app only lets you see the one for that specific game. We will be adding the ability to view various leaderboards on the app soon.

Does that help?

Score are automatically sent/updated in real-time over wifi to our platform.

Your final score, however, while *available* online after a game, doesn't automatically save to the leaderboard until you claim it.

The reason for this is because there may be multiple players, and we must know which player is which. Therefore, you need to tell us (or, in some cases, tell the game) who you are. (Just like how after a game you would enter initials, now we expect some interaction here as well.)

You can do this during a game (in the app by pressing the player # slot on the session), or after a game (same thing).

We will be releasing a feature shortly which will speed this up significantly , and adding "auto-save" capability for people who save every score.

That is a great question! We actually set that up for a few tournaments using a special version of ScorbitVision, so it's not hard for us to make happen for anyone's non-pinhead party.

However, let me make sure I totally get what you want to do:

For each game played, you want to put the players' names in to their player slots yourself, from a web interface?

If the names and scores are meant to kept in our system so people can look at the leaderboard afterwards, they would need a user on the Scorbit platform...but that doesn't mean they need the app.

We could provide a registration desk kind of tool, for people who aren't registered yet, so everyone has a single identity on Scorbit... then you would search for a name to add it to a slot.

Is that what you're thinking of, or just an ephemeral tool for the display?

Thanks for the support!

You're not missing something at all. When you play Call of Duty, you are holding a controller, and you have told you Xbox, Playstation or PC that you're you before you start playing by "logging in" with you name to Xbox Live or something similar.

In pinball it's no different, you have to tell us you're you. I think what you would like is to be able to say, "Hey, I'm playing this game for a while. Every score is mine," and have it just automatically submit scores, with your name, while you play.

Honestly, that sounds like a neat feature, I'll talk to the team about it... The only problem is if you left it on, and someone else came to the machine and started racking up scores that weren't you. Maybe it could be "home mode," where all scores are yours?

That's a good idea, basically an event with a special set of leaderboards that are web-based, that the names are essentially temporary. We love identity here at Scorbit, but I see where this is coming from! Stay tuned, we'll think of some solutions.

It’s funny, it’s a common question but the answer is kind of easy. Do you cheat when you play with no one watching? Probably not. Sure, I guess you could take the glass off, but that’s one of the reasons the default is a leaderboard for your machine. Every type of leaderboard has flaws, so we will offer all of them for the various audiences that need them.

Yes, today we have a beta concept in the app called challenges that lets you play a game and then challenge others to beat it. We are working on notifications on how this works at the moment. it’s still rough but we improve daily.

We will soon have a feature that allows your to choose people in advance and play against them with a leaderboard for that challenge. That is in development and on our release schedule.

Finally, for Jersey Jack games this is a free service. For other games you must use a Scorbitron which has a hardware and subscription price (although we have a promotion now).

Yes, the game settings in the Diagnotics/Utilities menu has a Scorbit option.

Hey all. We want to make you aware of the Scorbit app release version 1.0.18 this morning.

This release includes QR code support to speed up claiming of player slots and navigating to a machine. If the user doesn't have the app, the QR will take them to the appropriate iOS or Android app download pages.

More info and screenshots on the Scorbit thread here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/4#post-5977213

If you hit the main S on the bottom tab, you can then search for games in the search bar. You can type a zip code, for example. Once you find the venue, you list the games in the venue. If you navigate to a game, you can see live games if they are happening, or post a score to it manually if there is no Scorbit connection yet.

We share data with Pinball Map, and if you already own a venue and a machine, let me know and we can make sure it gets added to your account so you can access the edit screens.

If the game hasn't been added yet, or the venue does exist (say, your house), you can create it by going to the account menu and choosing "My Venues," and the rest hopefully make sense.

You can add a game before it's connected, and post manual scores to it.

There is plenty in the works, as you suspect. Regardless we appreciate the feedback, it’s all helpful.

We are working to add this to the app. We're making some major upgrades to the configuration options for ScorbitVision, but expect seeing those newer boards visible in various ways in the app soon.

We just identified a new ScorbitVision bug where you can't create certain types of leaderboards. This probably was introduced very recently, we're working on correcting it now.

It's should speed through and not stick. Power cycle and start over.

If it's during the install, reboot. If it's during the download, check the Internet and reboot. Also if the kids are having a gamer LAN party.

This isn't downloading, it's something else (if it says Finishing Update...) so personally I'd reboot.

We've had some reports of some session bugs with Scorbit, know we're working on it and we'll have an update when we can.

Scorbit bug fix has been posted.

Yes, that was just on v1.13 and has been fixed in v1.14.

Note that when you abort games, they shouldn't really count as games... but regardless, try it with 1.14.

Yes there is! In 1.14 it's in the system menu, so you can take that QR code off the attract. Please do that and reconnect!

I do know that from Scorbit's POV we've seen almost all updates go smoothly. Regardless, we've heard that in the next release they've introduced more fixes around the wifi download. For now, keep your coin door open during a wifi update and that is supposed to help.

One of the unfortunate things about going online for the first time is that you undoubtedly run into issues with wifi incompatibilities. You wouldn't believe the WiFi journey we've been through at Scorbit to make our own WiFi hardware appear easy when you do a Scorbitron install!

If the game sees and displays the networks, and then doesn't connect, you're likely having a "key exchange" issue. This can sometimes be caused by the wifi router having a setting that is less common (encryption type, etc.). If you can, set your WiFi router to WPA2 Personal (WPA2-PSK) encryption. If it's set to WEP (too old) or something bizarre it might be failing to handshake.

Because the game is a linux box running relatively standard drivers, there isn't really anything to set on the game other than the SSID and password.

If your laptop or smartphone is connected to the same WiFi device, check your settings and see what type of connection it's using. Also, this is rare but it happens, sometimes a router is set to allocate only a limited number of IP addresses, and has difficulty assigning new ones. You can sometimes fix this by rebooting/power cycling the router or resetting the DHCP service on it.

We have heard some cases where after the 1.18 update, on first boot, there may be some connection issue that is resolved from that point forward. If any of you have issues with Scorbit during that first boot, try another boot, and let us know if it resolves. Thanks!

Quick Scorbit app update: v1.0.24 Release

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In addition to many bug fixes, two important feature changes:

1. Any leaderboard created with ScorbitVision will now appear in the Waiting to Start game session screens (and leaderboard viewing screens) if they are associated with the machine you're viewing, public, and created/owned by the person who owns the machine. For example, you could create a leaderboard for a machine specific to your local pinball league for a machine, make it public, and now anyone playing will see that leaderboard in the carousel while waiting to play.

2. If you open the app or return to the home screen from within a venue and have location set up properly, the app will launch with the machine list for that venue. This is particularly useful for home users which are always in the same venue (their house) and want to skip the venue list. There will be more controls over the venues and venue listing in the next release.

v1.0.24 Release Notes:

-Various performance improvements and bug fixes
-Corrects Android WiFi pairing bug for some OS/hardware combinations
-App will now launch inside a venue if you're standing in it by default.
-Tapping machine title leaderboard icons now takes you to larger leaderboard view.
-Added public custom leaderboards from ScorbitVision to game screens (useful for pinball leagues!)
-Fixed a pairing bug that caused install to get stuck
-Fixed searching for venues with apostrophes

We've had reports of that happening on first install of 1.19, but only from one or two people, and we can't replicate it in the lab!

If it happens to you, I'd be really curious if the game (not Scorbit) was still on the network. A freeze like that would happen if the game dropped off WiFi for some reason.

Scores of both games are combined for global leaderboards, but artwork is different for specific ones.

For global scores, we use machine groups, which means if the playfields play the same the scores are together.

In a case (like Batman 66) where all versions of a game are the same, when you choose the game from a list for a global leaderboard you would only see one option.

1.0.24 just dropped on the Apple store for those who were waiting. Sorry about that. I will never mention Android in release notes on Apple again, as apparently they don't like that!

On the machine title, you'll see a little list icon to the right of the game title.

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Excited to announce an update to the Scorbit app, v1.0.25, and a major uplift to ScorbitVision! This includes new leaderboards, new app features, and more.

Details in the Scorbit thread:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/5#post-6228910

Hey GnR folks. Just FYI, we've posted an instructional video on how to use the various features of ScorbitVision.

This outlines using Scorbit for Scoreboards, Leaderboards, Comboboards, Slideshows and Streamboards.

More info in this post:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/5#post-6252475

Yes, and we'll be releasing some big updates today/tomorrow.

FYI, pretty major Scorbit update:

https://scorbit.io/major-app-update-scorbit-version-1-1-is-here/

I hope it's easy, that's what we're aiming for anyway. You scan a QR code, install the app, set up a username/etc., and connect the machine.

I think the biggest habit you have to form is "claiming" games. Ideally you tap the player # on the app as the game begins, and then when the game is over, it asks you if you want to save to leaderboard or throw out the score.

We have auto-claiming features, but they depend on the app being open and are mostly for one-player games.

Some folks find scanning the QR code on the game screen at the beginning easier than tapping buttons on the app, and I can see why that might be easier for some. Personally I just always have my phone open on the machine when I play, but I 100% get why some folks are less excited about that (particularly in an arcade).

As for if it's worth doing: I consider pinball a social thing, and when someone like Karl rips up GnR, I like getting a notification about it. I also follow a ton of really fun players and always like seeing the modes they stacked up/etc.

Anyway I'm biased but figured you asked...

You can follow people in the app and get notifications if they beat your score, etc. This being said, I'm not sure how often watching a live game on the app is useful to people. I use ScorbitVision for live stuff and the app for more of the social piece.

You can also set up auto-save and auto-claim so you don't need to keep the active, going and lock it in after a game, but I recognize not all these features are really intuitive yet. We're improving it. I find the challenges the most fun personally, but YMMV. We have a feature coming called hog mode that allows you to auto-claim/auto-save on a single machine until you step away from it. This came from home users who really don't like pulling the app out more than once.

Then there is the fact that Scorbit also works cross hundreds of titles and is an open platform, which I would think adds some value.

I guess the piece that is the most important part for me is social features, but my co-founders might be more into score tracking. Everyone's use case is a bit different and you can't be perfect for everyone.

The short answer is yes. In the app, after you Save to Leaderboard, you can view what we call "score details" by clicking on the score anywhere in the app. For example, if you hit the Community tab (the people icon in the lower right), you see scores of everyone you follow. If you click a score, it shows you the details of that score, including a timeline of the game visually. You can see the actual modes stacked on the bottom of the timeline.

Now, more specifically, the app knows what those modes are. We have a version coming in a future release which allows you to drag your finger over it and see the modes (it's tricky to fit this all on a screen!).

We've had the cloud part of Hog Mode ready for about four months, we just haven't had time to add it to the user interface with everything going on! We will get on that soon.

At Scorbit we're really into the social context of pinball. That being said, a lot of our interaction happens between balls. Also watching someone's gameplay. So when you distill this down to the core, I think it's probably less about "head to head" gaming where one game is player 1 and the other is player 2, and more about being able to watch the other player's playfield and hear each other. So are we talking about streaming tools, or head to head?

Anyway, a lot to think about there. In our release this week, try out the Challenge features. They are simple, but you would be surprised...

Funny you should say that...

I will say this: We have been providing all that data back to the manufacturers in real-time since INDISC in 2016. There has been a lot of development in the area you speak of. I hope you'll be pleased.

You got it. This next release, go to your profile, click on stats, choose a machine you want to look at, and it will be there.

Hey no problem, we're all wanting it along with you! You can look at anyone on Scorbit's whole posted score history for that game as well, manual or automated submissions.

Don't forget to click on a score, it takes you to the score timeline, which is pretty informative, even without mode labels (yet).

The crazy part is that we have all of this data, and you would be amazed with how many different ways people would like us to slice it.

Part of the reason we launched ScorbitVision was because we realized there is just too many iterations for the app. This being said, I fully expect folks to make their own apps on our system. We are going to launch a full developer website soon with some more tools for this.

I think we need a button on every machine play screen that takes you to the globals for the machine, globals for you, etc... too many features, so little time!

Scorbit just released Achievements with JJP, Starting with Wonka, GnR will be coming soon.

Video:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/6#post-6513731

Hey, you're not alone, we have a TON of work to do to make the app more intuitive and easier.

We do have a support doc that might help though:

https://support.scorbit.io/hc/en-us/articles/360056606854-Activating-a-Jersey-Jack-Pinball-Machine-on-the-Scorbit-Platform

Try that, let us know.

sushko You do not have to sign into Scorbit each time you turn on the game, it does that automatically for you if you've "paired" the game with Scorbit in the Utilities menu of the game.

There are various leaderboards for every game. You can also create you own leaderboards for just your location or groups of friends or machines using ScorbitVision (sv.scorbit.io).

When you log into the app, the default screen is the venue screen, which should open in your venue (or your house) if your location was set correctly. Then, when you go to play the game, if you scan the QR code on the screen that pops up on Ball 1, it will automatically "claim" you as player 1 or next available player. I recommend setting your settings in the account menu, in playing preferences, to auto-save. This means after a game it puts your score in the leaderboard automatically IF you've claimed the player slot.

The leaderboards are visible from the screen that appears whenever you navigate to the game. During attract mode, you can scan through them on a carousel. You can also see them by pressing the Leaderboard icon in the upper right next to the machine title during the game or after.

You can also look at any user's profile (or your own, via the account menu next to your avatar icon). If you hit Stats, then the machine icon, you'll get to search for a machine, and it will give you the scores and achievements for that person (including yourself) for any game.

We'll be adding more leaderboard features by machine type to the app soon.

Let me know if you have trouble!

-Jay

Heh, well, yeah it's been a long road and journey. The amount of orders for Scorbitrons this weekend is overwhelming my little operation here.

The process of adding Twilight Zone is like this: You can add TZ by going to the Account Menu > My Venues > [Venue Name] > and in Machines hit the +. Choose Twilight Zone, and it will show up on your machine list.

Then, when you have a Scorbitron one day and want to connect it, you can go to the machine and hit the edit pencil, and go to Tools > Install Scorbitron. The rest is magic.

Until then, you can submit scores manually with a photo!

Made my day! That's outstanding and exactly the sort of thing we're looking for.

Challenges have been live since 2020. This is not achievements. At the end of a game, after you save to leaderboard, you can choose to "challenge" someone (or a few people) to beat your score. If they accept the challenge, the next time they play that title, it counts towards the challenge. If you stack up challenges on the same game, first in is first out.

Winners of the challenge get a little gold badge on their avatar on the score card in the feed, and anyone following will see that and the challenger's score.

-Jay

Drunk GnR fan vomits on your shoes! Achievement Unlocked.

On the app, when you're on the playing screen, tap the word "Player 1."

The QR code will auto-navigate you there, but won't auto-claim the slot if multiple players are set.

GnR support for display names is coming, very soon. Very soon.

Let me know if that helps!

Achievements are live!

We have had some problems with older versions of the code around restarts, particularly if you have a long display name in your user profile. Be sure to update your code first before connecting Scorbit.

I've explained a lot of how all this works (with photos) here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/7#post-6547465

See above. Think of the app as a companion.

If you are playing by yourself, and you scan the QR on the game screen at the upper right, it SHOULD auto-claim the player slot. Just a shortcut. However, if you're playing with people, the QR code will claim the first available slot, so be warned.

I suggest this post:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/7#post-6547465

I now understand your question, sorry!

While we will never reveal all achievements, because that spoils a ton of the fun as you say, there are two ways you will be able to see what the designers have decided should be exposed to you before you achieve them:

1) If you visit the Profile > Stats > Machine > Achievements, you will see achievements that you've achieved plus any additional achievements that are part of the same "achievement group" that you have not achieved. For example, if there is an achievement to hit multiball 10 times, and you've hit multiball 10 times, you may see the achievements for 50, 100, or 1000 times by viewing that achievement and paging through the others in the GROUP box. This isn't a complete list, and it does require that you've at least hit the lowest level number of the achievement.

2) A feature we are finishing that you will see soon is called the Browse tab. This is the pinball machine in the lower left corner of the app. This is not ready yet, but when you tap that tab, you will get to choose any machine and see various things about it, including achievements (locked or unlocked). You'll find that some won't be seen or some will be in an obscured state (like mystery), but it will not require that you specifically have hit all those achievements.

Also, some achievements associated with the game are not specific to something that happens in the game! Therefore, it's not exactly right to show you those in the context of the machine all the time, and may be invisible to you until you achieve them or someone you follow achieves them.

I hope that makes sense!

Little tip: long-pressing a player slot deselects it.

Well that ain’t right. Bug filed.

Yes...Very good ideas here. The thrill of victory. The agony of defeat.

We are working on the interactive game timeline still, where you run your finger over it and it displays the modes/etc. at any point in the graph. Score is interesting, and bonus, the question is how to visualize it in a comprehensible way. I will redouble our efforts.

As for the iPad, yes, I hear you. When I think about another UI/form factor, I am brought into a quivering panic attack, rocking back and forth. However, I think it's a worthy endeavor, and I'll look into the options we have there. Great idea.

I'd also like to get our developer portal open soon so aspiring iPad app developers can beat me to the punch.

There are two kinds of challenge features on Scorbit, regular Challenges and Challenge Matches, though right now only one (Challenges) is available in production. Challenge Match is premeditated, Challenges happen after a game is complete. Here's how it works:

- You play at great game.
- After the game you Save to Leaderboard. NOTE: If you have auto-save turned on, you skip this step, so you can't challenge!
- You are presented with a sharing and challenges screen. You can tag anyone you want to beat your score.
- You click Send Challenge.
- Anyone you challenged gets a notification to beat your score.
- If your challenge is accepted (which you do by clicking the "ACCEPT" button underneath the challenge, either in the Challenge menu, your user profile, or the score itself in the Community feed and Details), then the person who accepted the challenge can respond in turn with their game.

If you accept multiple challenges for the same machine, you will play them out first challenge accepted, first one played.

That's interesting, I'd love to know more! If you don't mind, email [email protected] with your Android version, the phone type, and when you see the connection dropping. What happens if you re-navigate to the game, does it pick up where it left off? (It should.)

Generally, the way it should work is, when you're done with a game, you can save it or throw it away. If you didn't have your app on and never claimed it, you can't go back and claim it after a certain period has passed or new games started, because otherwise we'd have folks hanging out in arcades accidentally claiming other people's scores.

If you want, you can set up auto-claim (for taking player slots) and auto-save (for automatically saving), but to claim a slot, your phone must be open and navigated to the game. Some people like to save every score, others like to save only their best.

We are adding a couple features soon that I think will help in these situations: One is called "hog mode," which doesn't require your phone be unlocked/open to auto-claim. However, if you walk away from a game for more than a couple minutes, you have to re-press the hog button to keep auto-claiming. Another feature you may like is the ability to go back to scores you claimed but didn't save and save them later, giving you the ability to share them at that time.

We're getting reports of some odd challenge behavior, so let me clarify what is the intended way for this to work:

Two types of challenges we refer to from time to time: Challenge and Challenge Match. For the sake of this post, assuming I'm talking about Challenges, because Matches are done a different way in an upcoming release.

Challenges are taunts, or tags, to people you know AFTER you've played a game.

If the app is open when the game is over, you'll see a series of screens that let you add a photo, tag others (challenge), and share.

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What you do is after a game is finished, tag the people you want to receive the challenge, then hit "Send Challenge."

What should happen next is that the person who received the challenge gets a notification.

**If the target user checks their challenge menu or challenge tab in their profile,** they will see an option to accept the challenge.

They have 7 days to accept or it disappears.

Once a challenge has been accepted, the next game you play counts against that challenge. You can tell if you won or lost based on the score card in the screen when the game is complete:

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There are a ton of known issues here, and all we're working hard to resolve quickly. For example, we will be showing you the score and the challenger when you're playing the game, and let you choose which one you want to challenge instead of handling it FIFO-style. Also, there have been some folks seeing challenges that shouldn't! We're looking into that as well. Understand, these are casual challenges. They are meant to be fun and done in a social spirit, and played casually. The Matches (coming soon) are premeditated, you can't just score a great game then challenge someone, everyone commits and the next game they play, good or bad, counts against the Match.

Hopefully this makes sense!

Correct, assuming you've only accepted one challenge for that game. If you accepted 3 from 3 different people, it will handle them first-in-first-out.

We're changing this to let you choose and so on. Sorry for the confusion!

This is interesting... You're right, it's unbalanced with casual challenges (hence the Challenge Match, coming later). However, giving someone a couple chances is actually really intriguing.

Dobler You're not wrong, there are some subtleties to challenges. To be clear, the goal here is to "taunt" someone into playing a response game. This is because you want to get a bit of a ping/pong back-and-forth experience. That casual nature makes it more fun. However, you're right, it's unbalanced, so making this something like you have x days to overcome the person's score sounds pretty great to me.

The change on our side is insignificant, though I would prefer to finish the visual enhancements and ability to choose which challenge you're playing on first, then work on changing this concept of changes to beat it. This is all whirling in my head, I need some time to let it settle...

The Challenge Match is designed to be more like a tournament in person, where you have one shot and no practice games once it begins.

The Challenge, however, I think has a lot of wiggle room on how we orchestrate it. When evaluating feature ideas, we (the co-founders) always come back to the basic vision of the company, which is to get more people playing. From that perspective, I think saying, we don't care how many times you get to try to beat it, but there is a limited period, is actually kind of interesting, because if I can get you to try to beat Karl 1000 times, that definitely keeps in line with the vision.

Plus it gets people going for things. My question is, how long?

When you're playing a game that achieves an achievement like that one, where there are levels counting the same thing, in theory, you should have achieved all those previous ones already.

So in this case, did the achievements (1 song, 50 songs) show up when you hit 100 songs? Did you not get them before, and suddenly got all three? Or did you get the first two twice?

In your Account Menu > Profile > Stats > GnR achievements screen, does it look accurate?

Thanks!

That could be it! If you have any achievements you don't think you earned, or vice versa, definitely let me know, or email [email protected].

Bugs are real. Protect yourself!

Folks just know we're hearing you loud and clear about challenges. Ironically they've been around for over a year but we really do need to roll out more data and instructions on using them! We're taking in all this feedback and you will start seeing changes soon.

At the moment, we are re-writing the challenge logic based on a ton of feedback. One area we have options is how to treat tagging multiple people, which for these types of challenges the intent was a one-to-one relationship with each person tagged. Challenge Matches (future feature) are challenges between multiple people at the same time.

This being said, we could change that logic, so that everyone you tag has a period to respond/beat the score, everyone's name are listed on the challenge and when it expires everyone gets notified, but I think this may be confusing when compared against Challenge Matches. What do you think?

Just to reiterate: Two types of Challenges (actually there is another, but we'll talk about that more next month).

Challenges (tagging players to beat your score) are casual, fun small taunts and responses. They are being re-worked a bit to give more transparency and visuals, so they make more sense in the context of how you all are playing them. These are started after you complete a game.

Challenge Matches are entirely different, which I'll explain. They are not available yet.

It's always a bit premature to pre-announce a feature as we're likely to change bits of it before release, but the general idea is that a Challenge Match is "premeditated." In other words, you create a new Challenge Match, select your game title or if it's specific to a single machine at a venue, choose your challengers, then your challengers get a period of time to accept. Once they do, everyone, including yourself, get one shot, one game, the next one you play.

While the app and visuals support live game play, so you can see the other players and their progress, it is not a requirement to play live. If it takes one player a few days to get a chance to play your turn, so be it, though there is an expiration variable. Since we can support live multi-game play, you can do events that way (or we can identify that as a type of challenge), but that's going to be ultimately up to the players.

It's like an unmoderated tournament between other players on Scorbit, though the scores are verified.

The details are being added as we speak. Stay tuned for the next couple of releases to make more sense of open challenges.

As for the app struggling: Generally we've found most of those latency issues in cases where the game's connection has some difficulty (versus the app having any issues). Across our network, most of the latency is sub one second, but you have to add on to that for every bottleneck in the system. This being said, we're still not satisfied, and have some changes coming that will radically reduce that latency! Exciting stuff. Let us know what hardware you have though, so if others report similar issues we know about it.

In all fairness, the app needs a lot of work. Let's just be honest, we at Scorbit are also players and feel all your pain around UI intuitiveness. We're never going to stop working on it.

At the end of the game, you have a screen that shows you the score card at the top, and a little + sign next to a person. That's when you can add people to an open Challenge (at the end of a game).

Indeed. Achievements at the end of a game may be better suited to display in the post-game screen on the app vs. the game, since it's hard to keep track outside the app in a meaningful way.

I think there are two immediate areas we're working on that may help. The first is post-game results that have a bit more use and can be revisited later.
The second is the machine tab view which will let you browse all the achievements and see what they require when they are game-specific.

You actually don't need to use the QR code. Just tap the player number. Did the tool tip not function showing you when you first used the app?

Hey, sorry, it's definitely needing work to be more intuitive!

Step 1: Tap the big S logo on the bottom
Step 2: Tap the name of your venue (or the game if the list of machine is already there)
Step 3: Tap the name of the machine

The "Waiting to Start" is like attract mode. Once you hit the start button on the game, you should see the screen automatically change to player slots (i.e. Player 1, Player 2, etc.).

If you tap the word "Player 1," it changes to "You." Other people with the app see your name there. The game of course also!

Let me know if that makes sense.

When you say this doesn't work for your game... what do you mean? What happens when you hit the S icon?

You should see your venue, then your game, then the Waiting to Start. Does that happen? What happens when you press Player 1?

Can you please check your Account Menu > Settings > App Version, and let me know the version and build? Also what version of Android are you running?

One thing to try: Try a light, quick tap on the Player 1 button. If you tap too long, it thinks it's a long press which de-selects it.

That is a great idea!

Hey there. You can always reach out to support if a problem like this happens, or jump on our Discord. We agree this should never happen.

We're in the process of fixing a few bugs that relate to the challenge system which is effecting claiming of slots when you've been challenged. We're working now on resolving those as quickly as we can.

FYI, your numbers are private if you choose on Scorbit. The default is to auto-publish all your scores to the leaderboard but you can set that to prompt you. Also, if you don't claim slots, nothing is published no matter what, but you don't earn achievements.

Our suggestion is you leave prompting on (auto-save off), and you claim slots to earn the achievements.

Well, here's the good news. When you claim a score, it's still in there, even if it's not saved to leaderboard. We'll be adding the feature soon to go back and add it after the fact, as long as you claimed it at the time.

If you want, DM me your info/username/time/game and I'll save it for you.

Yes, there is. However, you have to claim the slot somehow (QR or manually via navigation) or we don't know it's you.

Auto-save (prompting off) works by saving it to leaderboard even if the app is closed, but the slot needs to be claimed in the first place.

We have an auto-claim feature but it requires the app the be open, and we're going to be ending it soon due to issues with people claiming games they don't want to claim. Instead, we're setting up Hog Mode, which allows you to play multiple games in succession on the same account if you own the game and you don't walk away for a certain period of time (at which point ti turns off Hog Mode like a kill switch).

I *love* Scorbit feedback, of all kinds.

It's legit feedback, honestly. I think the number one friction point to Scorbit is the requirement of an app! Stern is clever to avoid it as much as possible. I also enjoyed how DP worked with Bride of Pinbot 2.0, very similar to Stern (though from 2014, I'm sure it's improved in TBL).

It's a necessary evil for identification purposes in public settings, but less so in private ones. I think that's where our head is going in terms of our feature development, classifying between these two use cases and accommodating with features that make sense. After considerable debate back and forth with users and some pretty difficult compromises, I think the Hog Mode (see above post) feature may be our best solution that can work in both environments without compromising privacy and security, but we welcome feedback on it!

To be clear, the achievements were all written by the game designers, not us. We really like what they came up with, though. We created a platform that any manufacturer can use, and they have the hooks in the code to decide how involved these things can be. I do know that Eric and the rest of the team spent a great deal of time (read: many months) creating them and changes to their own code to accommodate it. The good news is that because it's a platform, they can change it, and add more, whenever they feel like without having to make changes to their code.

One thing also to remember is that the notion of a player profile that exists in between games is a new paradigm that didn't exist in pinball prior to Scorbit and Stern Insider Connected (though arguably pioneered by Dutch Pinball). A game designer who designs a game from scratch knowing that these capabilities exist will probably make different hooks available that will improve the content considerably! I expect great things from all manufacturers in this regard going forward.

Actually, I'm really happy you wrote that, it kind of gives me an opportunity to share some more optimism!

Our platform gets really interesting because the achievements not only can be based on game specific elements, or session elements, but also just about anything else you can think of: Speed, venues, operators, individuals, geo location, designers, time of day, modes that layer over different game titles, the list goes on and on. Once you get out of counting things and start creating complex combinations with unusual requirements, it starts to become really rich and interesting. Then, when all is complete and you get the goal, having that then turn around and potentially impact game play... Things get really fascinating!

It's a new language, and unlike Xbox Live, it transcends the virtual and into the physical world. The possibilities are endless, so there is probably no way we'll even scratch the surface with this first set of releases! I can't wait to see what they come up with.

In theory, you shouldn't have to press New Game. If you start a new game, it won't jump to the game session in case you have work to do (challenge or share, etc)... However, it shouldn't stay there forever. We had it on a 120 second timer but got complaints it wasn't enough time, then we increased it and it was too long... so I think what we're learning is that we should get hog mode out there already.

I think this is what we'll do, though I welcome feedback:

We nuke auto-claim because it causes all sorts of multi-player issues, and replace it with the hog mode feature that has the auto-claim + kill switch but doesn't require the app to be open at all to grab and save games. Just a reminder: The way hog mode works is when you enable the feature, for games that you actually created/own yourself, there is a button you press the first time you go to play. Then, as long as you keep playing the same game within that period (there is a timer in between games you don't see), games get auto-claimed and auto-saved to leaderboard. If you walk away, or change games, or someone else plays a game, hog mode kill switch is activated, so you have to press it again to get back to the automation. This means you don't open the app at all.

Then, if you had a game you want to challenge someone with, we let you go back to that previous score detail screen and challenge from there within some kind of time period (and also share, etc.).

Thoughts?

Just FYI, Scorbit detects the number of balls you're playing and if it's above the default. We don't distinguish today but we store it, so at some point, we'll release an update that filters scores outside the default. The scores won't be lost, just will require a separate list.

Scorbit v1.2 is here, with some major changes to challenges and playing flow. Check out the details in the Scorbit thread here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread/page/11#post-6788938

Hmm, that's interesting. When you say "restarting," do you mean aborting a game by entering the menu and starting over?

This is definitely new, so I'll make sure we get the bug replicated and fixed. They key is to figure out why it works sometimes and not others, what the special magic is (like is it related to how fast the session starts, or something more app specific).

What do you mean "just like Scorbit?"