Well, I’ve been following this thread since I placed my order for our first NIB in early January. With a mix of total excitement and trepidation, i hereby report that my distributor told me today that they’ll be shipping mine out next week. I have petg washers coming but the Cliffy set is on the backlog since I just ordered them last week. Maybe I should add some carbon fiber to the order just in case. What a stupid thing to have to be thinking about ahead of a brand new machine…

I want to give big thanks to everyone, especially Yelobird fooflighter zaphX PinMonk LTG for being s’darn helpful and encouraging—I have many of your posts favorited and/or copied into my GNR notes file.

Also I want to thank/blame Karl DeAngelo iepinball for streaming his gameplay and getting the lady of the house so excited about this game that she put “Buy GNR LE” on my honey-do list. We watched him for weeks and slowly figured out it was inevitable.

I’m excited and crossing my fingers for a good game and a strong playfield. Thanks for being a great community, people!

Thanks! I hope yours stays clean and tight as the magical Pinfairy intended. Looks great. Jeez this game looks great even when it’s not on.

Automated Services. Ordered Jan 12.

Also, we found out our machine was shipping next week and bought tickets to GNR…. both TODAY. I think they planned the pinball machine just to boost ticket sales. We didn’t go for the Nighttrain Super Deluxe Bullet Loader My Michelle Special Package though. I never had to decline so many crazy special packages in my life.

Exactly how I feel! I’ve been following this thread and taking notes since I ordered in January. I don’t think a lot of people have the time or inclination to do the same, so I get it when I read questions that have been answered ten times, and I ain’t mad. We’re gonna see a lot of repetition. I’ve stayed mostly off since I don’t have mine yet and can’t really contribute anything, but I’m supposed to be getting mine soon and I’ll be darn happy to try to be more helpful. I don’t mind people posting about almost anything game related.

I totally get how annoying it is to read playfield concerns over and over when you’ve had your game for a while and you want to talk strategy, lost jackpots, and parse out rules more… but hey, we’re all at different stages of the process. Soon I hope to have some ability to take all the strategy posts and make some sense of what to do… but dangit, I haven’t been taking notes on that stuff!

I think it really depends on how many people ordered from your distributor. I ordered Jan 12, and I had called maybe 7-8 distributors to find out when they had spots available. At that point most weren’t until June/July, but I found one who had a March spot open and I put my deposit down. Then the big slowdown yada yada yada and my dist apologized that his March order was pushed to June. I called last week to see how many more months I was pushed back and was pleasantly surprised to be told that they were scheduled to receive a shipment this week and that mine was in the batch.

Also, let’s lay off zaphX a little! He’s been awesome and amazingly helpful through most of this thread and he understandably is over all the playfield stuff. I think most of us are just asking for a little understanding from him that many of us are still (im)patiently awaiting our good times or are just getting our games and haven’t had a chance to work through the setup and protection stuff yet and want to be able to express our disappointments sometimes before we get to the rock out and enjoy phase.

So if he gripes that he’s tired of gripes, eh, stop the cycle.

I finally found an LE in the wild this weekend and had an amazing time on the machine despite not being able to hear a thing. I’m reaaaaally excited to get one up at my place now! I’m not even going to mention that it had pooling and art chipping. Not a word about how that makes me nervous. Not saying a thing about how its build date was 5/21. Eh. Mine will have problems. I will deal with it. Because this thing is fun to shoot!

I hope sooner than you think @xelz! I don’t know how many jjp allocates themselves in the schedule or how long the queue was. But the games seem to be coming faster and more furiously here lately…

Sounds much less distracting. We’ll all be thanking them for making us better players?

If anyone knows him personally, tell him he’s already missed. I have so many of his posts saved, I know I owe him a beer. Man that’s such a shame.

Finally, my anal note taking ahead of actually having a game pays off for someone

Also, props to Zaphx and I sure do wish he’d come back

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-jjp-gnr-thread/page/179#post-6257557

oh, that’s from the collector’s edition forum, I’m not allowed in there

Yelobird used the iron from this kit, which I bought through Advance Auto. Hopefully easily sourced for you!

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/permatex-pro-style-vinyl-and-leather-repair-kit-81781/7740002-P?utm_source=ET&utm_medium=TRANS&utm_term=TRNSCT&utm_campaign=20210610_A_EC_TX_ORDCON%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&utm_content=ITEM

Probably nothing bad, don’t worry. He deleted his Pinside account a month ago or so. He seemed a little fed up at the time, hopefully he’ll return one day.

Sorry JJP ain’t so great all the time. Luckily, we have a fabulous community to try to help each other out. Try this kit? I ordered stuff separately before I saw they have it.

https://www.pinballlife.com/jersey-jack-pinball-guns-n-roses-pinball-post-spacerprotector.html

I got my call and final invoice two weeks ago, and then one week ago I was told that they’d run out of some parts and the line was stopped. It’s funny that this is the way we learn the world really is breaking down.

I have no idea what to expect or when to expect it, but I don’t suppose it’ll matter much when the zombies come

My idea was to hire a person who could count using numbers and put them in charge of inventory. I kid, I kid, I know there are serious supply chain and workforce issues. Abacuses are probably hard to come by too

I wonder what they have all their employees do when they have to stop the line, though.

So on the sound front, I have a pretty nice home stereo that happens to be in the same space as where the GNR is going when it arrives next week, and I’ve been on the fence about pinwoofer. Not because I don’t think it would be great, but because I don’t have money to spend thoughtlessly. I figured I’d see how it sounds out the box, then see about hooking it up through the stereo. It seems silly but it’s already right there and no harm in trying it out?

Is there an easy audio line-out in the game, or would I need to splice some wires, or what? If you think I’m crazy, no need to post, I’m aware, and Axl sings it to me every time I put on my GNR Lies (the superior version of that song all day every day).

But of course I will report back in. With direct wired connections, I’m not too worried about lag. I only wonder if anyone who has the game knows whether there is an easy line out connector or if I’ll need to splice. I should have everything on hand to do it either way, I was just hoping it would be simple is all.

That’s great, thanks! I’ll try it and if I don’t love it I’ll have to start convincing the woman that pinwoofer is a necessity.

She’ll be a tough sell, she will have to love the game first and foremost. I don’t know how the rest of you get away with all these mods after taking five digits out of your bank accounts.

I was so bummed when you left and am so happy you’re back. ZaphX for president.

My game arrives tomorrow and appreciation I already owe him, PinMonk, FooFlighter, and a few other heavyweights shall be un-re-payable

Holy heck he read what I said! Brush with fame checked off the bucket list

Those of you waiting to play your machines until you’ve fully protected your playfields to the best of our abilities are special people—and by that I mean you’re either amazing or defective. Both work.

Got my buddy to help me bring in good old #1918 this afternoon in some oppressive heat (I am convinced there are gold bars hidden somewhere in this game, I’ve never felt a heavier pin). We get ‘er up on her legs and I thank him and show him the box full of petg washers, Mylar rings, cliffy set, iron, etc, and tell him I’ve got a few hours ahead of me. He laughs and nods to the three other people from my house, pinning us in like starved jackals, and he says “I think we’d better plug it in.”

I’ll get to it, I promise. Had a couple of stuck switches out of the box but things seem to be going pretty well and everyone is super excited to see how my playfield protections work out as soon as I fumigate them out of there.

For my buddy @vespula, ordered January 12 from a distributor

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Errr so removing the upper playfield to install cliffys… step 5 of FF’s excellent instructions ask me to trace all the wires coming off the upper playfield and unplug them where they end up. Is this easier than it appears, because everything is ziptied so beautifully down here, and the wires snake all over themselves, and I’m intimidated. Just looking for some courage perhaps?

Interesting and thank you, I will try it your way first

That’s a good idea—next time I go after the upper pf I’ll snip more and use my Velcro ties. Smart smart.

I was able to get the cliffys in fine just using the slack in the wires and an adolescent to hold it steady. I’d say everyone should have an adolescent… but they shouldn’t.

The left and right edges of the scoop cliffy are ever so slightly raised. I haven’t had that with cliffys before—are they going to settle down or are they going to start crunching and crumpling up eventually? I mean they’re barely up, but they’re up.

Had it’s not just me! Hmm, I wonder if I can make some kind of adhesive fit in there. It’s all on mylar. Hmmmmm

Last stupid question for anyone close to their machine. We’re all buttoned back up but I’d failed to take a “before” pic of the bass ramp at the bottom and I feel like someone misplaced a piece of hex post. Cause it’s just hanging out up there… If someone could snap a pic of how it’s supposed to be, I’d appreciate it!

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Helps a lot, thanks! You’ve confirmed what I believed to be the case. Now to locate it…

All righty, I’ve had the game for 4 days now and I’d like to report in. It’s pretty incredible. I mean, I’m almost not ashamed of making such an exorbitant purchase. I kind of can’t believe how much fun it is.

July build with a June playfield, lotsa washers and posts with lock nuts, everything looks good through about 100 plays. I suspect there is pooling under some of those washers—I installed cliffys and found a pool at under the apron, just under the tilt warnings. I’ll see it again soon since I’ll have to go back in and adjust my screw up, as the odd ball will get hung up at the eject hole. Had to adjust the one way gate at the right ramp to keep balls from screaming back at me, and I’ve got to adjust the scoop angle (coming to the right tip of the left flipper) and the left lane of the guitar lock likes to go sdtm. But I suppose I’m ready for all this from following this thread from the beginning, thanks again everyone!

Other than those minor things and a couple of non-gameplay imperfections/omissions I’ve found that I’ll have to open a ticket on, it is a beautiful and well-made machine that completely steals the show in my four-pin gameroom. How many gameplay videos have I watched, and still I wasn’t ready for the gorgeousness of this machine and the stellar integration. It is a marvel, and so dang much fun it is killing me. I’ve crested ten million now… and lost so much more trying to pull some Karls with the pinball skill of a comparative squirrel

Gots a problem. My upper playfield flipper is binding on something. It’s not dragging the playfield. When I lift the pf, it’s free and easy, but when I put downward pressure on it (as if it were down like usual), it’s just grinding along as I move it. I probably did something dumb when I had the upper pf off to do the cliffy, right? I can feel under there that there white sleeve going through the two pfs is in two pieces, not that that should make a difference.

My only guess is that I should maybe raise the flipper arm a bit, but that could be very wrong. Anyone else had this issue? I’ve already had a couple of balls get stuck in the hole below it because it doesn’t always come back to its home position.

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I threw the plunger and it was smooth, but only when the pf was up, so I’ll investigate that better tomorrow, thanks!

It really only took a little downward pressure with my finger to make it lightly grind/bind. Such a simple mechanism, probably something will be obvious when I look at it with new eyes.

Fixed my sticking upper playfield flipper... I don't remember there being any posts on here about it before, so here's a quick synopsis and what I did to fix it... thanks zaphX for putting me on the right track and helping me through.

Basically, I noticed during gameplay that it didn't look like my upper pf flipper was returning all the way "home," and then sometimes it stuck all the way up, and I even got a ball stuck in the cutout beneath it. I raised the PF and the flipper traveled free and easy, until I put a little pressure on the top of the flipper (mimicking gravity), when it stuck/binded. zaphX suggested I check the coil plunger, and that indeed turned out to be the issue. The weight of the flipper and shaft put enough downward pressure on the linkage to make the plunger askew as it tried to travel in and out of the coil, causing the drag.

Tried just lifting the shaft some more, but the weight was still there of course. Looking closely, I noticed that when I slid the flipper shaft down as far as it would go without dragging the playfield, there was still a small gap between the sleeve on the flipper assembly (which comes a few inches out of the playfield and to the bottom of the upper PF) and a spacer sleeve that sits on top of it, meaning that unless the flipper were lower and sitting right on top of that spacer sleeve, the flipper isn't being supported by anything but the pinch clamp on the flipper assembly... and that weight being on the pinch clamp was the reason it putting pressure on the linkage and plunger. I use too many words.

So I just needed to make the weight rest on the spacer sleeve so it didn't torque the shaft and put lateral pressure on the flipper linkage. Luckily, I have about 6,000 PETG washers sitting around now, and they are about the right thickness to let the flipper rest on the shaft spacer. I took a 3/4" PETG washer and drilled out the hole with a 5/8 bit, which made it big enough to fit around the shaft. Then I just loosened the pawl nut, spread the pinch clamp a little with a screwdriver, removed the flipper and shaft, slid the washer on it (3/4 inch is the perfect size for the radius of the flipper), slid the spacer back on, and inserted it right back down. The height was perfect, I just retightened the pawl nut to get that pinch clamp semi-tight, made sure I had a little vertical play on the shaft, put the flipper in its position over the playfield, and tightened the pawl nut the rest of the way down. Swings free and easy now, returns to "home" without issue, and I'm back in business.

I hope no one else has such an issue, but if you do, it was pretty easy to deal with. PM me if I didn't make enough sense and you need help.

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I think it’s just because it’s such a long shaft and there isn’t playfield underneath it. It’s sort of “floating” up there. So maybe none of them is actually sitting atop the spacer sleeve but mine was binding too much so I needed to. There’s still plenty of vertical play for the shaft with my setup here. I’m not sure what’s right, this is my first upper playfield with long-shafted bats.

There are two hex nuts holding the gate to the plastic ramp (one might have a nut underneath that you have to hold?). Just loosen those up a little and on mine (and I’m sure yours), the gate had a slot hole so you can adjust left and right. I just made it so the gate was perpendicular to the target at the top of the ramp and it works like magic. Just tighten them back down and you’re good.

I played Houdini for the first time this past week. Just had enough cash for a few games, but I was totally intrigued. I think people spend their time hating on games because it assuages their FOMO since no one can have all the games, and they want to feel more confidently better about the ones they have?

For my part, I love pinball because it’s so easy to see what a labor of love every one of these machines has been for someone, so I honestly have a hard time disliking/hating almost any game. Did they get everything right? Did they miss some opportunities? No, yes, but they worked their butts off and made something worthwhile, and it doesn’t take much time with a game before you begin to see what they were after and appreciate it.

Snap, forgot this was a GNR forum—let me say that the game is a week and a half old in my house and seems to be actively beating the crap out of me… but I got 22m today and all is forgiven.

Am I crazy or is this game really important to set up the flippers for? I’ve always just set flips in line with the lane on my games and could get the feel for shots pretty quickly. On GNR, every little shift I make seems to change my shotmaking dramatically and I haven’t found the sweet spot… yet.

Yep, that’s the conundrum I’m facing. I really like how much better my games seem to go when I can backhand that left ramp! But now the orbits seem to be all but off the table for me. I’ll just go a little lower tomorrow…

Way to make me feel bad about wanting to exploit the rules! Let’s consider it my handicap… don’t worry, even backhanding my way to a patch or two and locking balls, I still find plenty of creative ways to drain all day long.

A little more pitch might help me with my inner loop, which likes to fling any weak shot straight to the outlane. I mean nothing but net 50% of the time.

Every game is still so much fun. Thanks for the suggestions people!

Lol, don’t sweat it a bit, I was just having some fun with you. I’m glad you’ve got the skills to not take advantage of it and still hit nice jackpots! I’m still not fast enough to even know how big the jackpots I’m losing are, but I drained out the other day and got a song score of over two million, and I’ll bet that was a monster jackpot (for me) that would have kept me awake with regret

I have a safe word with the fam when there’s a good game or ball going on. If someone starts talking to me or getting too close, I say NOPE and they usually correctly buzz off

I have to come in here every night to read about how excited people still are about this game… I am not regretting adding it but no other game I’ve played makes me so anxious! To disclaim, I’ve only had it a couple of weeks and still feel like I’m not getting it set up properly, and I’m fairly sure mine is haunted by an unhappy spirit that crept in somewhere between the factory and my home.

I suck at almost every phase of this game. The multiballs go great until the ball saver times out, the slings have eyeballs and know exactly how to lob into the outlanes, any ramp I don’t fully climb flings the ball sdtm (and I swear there’s a laugh, an awful snorting pig-man laugh to accompany it), and the moment I’m down to two balls in a song, the slings will catch one and play volleyball until the other ball shows up out of nowhere and swishes the drain at the moment the slings take an arcing shot that softly, mockingly, ambles on out. My triumphs are few and far between but the pain this monster doles out is approximately constant.

Sorry, I thought it was appropriate that I copy my journal entry from tonight for posterity. I hope to be getting better and joining in with everyone’s cheerful appreciation soon! Right now, I kind of wish my GNR was a man I could take outside and fight. Probably kick my arse there too, but at least I’d have a chance

Tonight, I’ll revisit my setup and try some things, thanks PinMonk and holminone and Vespula , you’ve refilled my courage (also sleep helped). Forgive the pitiful entry, I’d lost my positivity for a spell. It’s my first JJP and NIB, and contrary to what I’d read, I had no idea of just how much tweaking and retweaking it was going to take to get this bad boy playing great. And I’ve tuned four carbs on a four cylinder engine before, so I’m no stranger to incremental improvements! Probably I’m getting too old and full of righteous expectation.

I cannot wait for you to get your machine, @vespula. I’ve been watching your patient impatience here for many moons and I’m gonna feel like I just got a new game too when yours arrives!

Getting there! Today I brought the slings down a couple of notches and I’m not getting slaughtered by volleyball. Oh, it still is dangerous but the murder percentage seems about halved. And finally my mini-bending of the guitar lock outs didn’t throw anything sdtm. We are making progress. My GC score of 22 mil hasn’t budged, but I see a brighter future… and it would have been amazing if I just could have found the dang scoop at the end of Sweet Child O’ Mine. Another day!

Here’s one thing I keep failing at: my bottom pop bumper’s skirt keeps getting stuck, flat against the pf, which obviously sticks the switch and it won’t fire again until I dig my fingernails against it and pull it back up. I thought it might be some mylar it was getting shoved under, but it’s not. When I un-stick it, sounds like some plastic scrapes up over whatever is holding it down, and I can’t make it stick by pushing it around with my finger. Haven’t had this problem before with a pin. Anyone have experience with such a thing?

Man I just don’t have enough games under my belt to answer this question properly. I’m still in the “what two dozen things are happening now that I should deal with” phase of my playing. but going by tonight’s business, I’m gonna say that I love/hate/love when all the lights die during Live and Let Die, and there’s that 3-note guitar bit accompanied by the flicker of a few lights right before the band music starts and the whole game lights up like it’s 1999.

I play in a dark room and trying to register where all the balls are (and where they’re probably going) right before it goes pitch black, and then getting a bit of a hint with that little guitar riff/lights flicker, and then realizing I was wrong about probably half of those balls and I have work to do to regain a modicum of control when the big brights and big guitars boom in…. Wooooooo—eeeeeeeee!

It’s a perfect microcosm for how I feel playing this game 75% of the time… two seconds that feel like an eternity and my brain thinks damnit oh nice wait what no way how could you oh that was lucky ahhh crap TWO AT ONCE where’s the OH NO OH YEAH!!!

All of that livin’ within such a short period of time, they’ll make that illegal one day

I removed the offending stand-ups and bent them to a more favorable angle. So now they go to different outlanes

Seriously though, it helped a lot. It still happens but not nearly as much as it did. My worst one was the Appetite standup. It loved to eject balls out the right lane. I bent it pretty mildly to face the tip of the right flipper, or maybe even the middle drain (it’s hard to remember, I just was considering the angle of entry and likely rebounds) more squarely and it is pretty uncommon for it to drain out now.

I did need to adjust the switch leaves too. Pretty much each leaf in order to be square to one another. It didn’t take too long, just be gentle.

You must have some magical nut drivers. I wanted so much for mine to fit in there but I couldn’t make it happen. Been waiting for another reason to remove the upper pf before I tried adjusting my hood again.

*Sigh*
Not since I was 24.

I’m right there with you man. I feel like I’m getting better but the scores aren’t reflecting it… yet. My GC score is like 22 mil. The other day I got a song value up to my personal best of like 95, even played the song pretty well, and came away with 8 million. The thing is stingy!

I have only been able to start make some noise on accident except once when I had a bouncing ball above the right flipper and was able to backhand it home. Felt great but it’s a pretty out-of-control way to make it happen. Hopefully some angle genius will chime in and tell us how to get it going on the regular…

That’s phenomenal. It pretty convincingly makes the whole machine look like a rock stage. Alas, I’m one of those punks who budgeted for this pinball machine and that is beyond my means. Eh, I play alone most of the time and I bet it’s hard to enjoy when your eyes are glued to the flippers anyway.

You bastard. I got my GC score tonight… at 28 million. I finished wondering how I’ll ever score so much again.

Scoring jealousy aside, I’m glad you have room for so many favorites. My physical limit is four machines, and I’m there, and I honestly couldn’t pick which one I’d be okay jettisoning to get another. Love them all.

If it makes you feel any better, now that I have GNR, I don’t have that excited feeling of anticipation any longer. You’re like a kid in the middle of December, waiting for Christmas. I’m like an old man, obsessed with how I can’t get past the second world in super mario brothers. Pity those of us who got luckier? I sure would like something to look forward to? I’m trying man sorry

Err, so I bought a pinwoofer kit from an owner who decided he didn’t want it, and I remember people having issues replacing the backglass after installing the new tweeters. And that’s me now. The instructions mention orienting the “bottom marker hole” downwards, but mine do not have these. Am I just supposed to keep rotating and reinstalling until the back glass fits again?

Thanks Vespula and @pinwoofer, all will be well. Dan’s gonna let me swap them out for the right bracket. Just my luck to end up with a set from a super exclusive run that you can’t even get your hands on. It’s probably worth more than my house!

Thanks for the help Dan!

Hey Holmie, don’t fret too much. That left ramp looks so big but is one of my biggest albatrosses too. I’ll look at my target tomorrow and let you know, but I clip that thing a lot too—and I’ve already removed it to bend the whole assembly, both to get a little more clearance and to change the angle of reflection when I hit it dead-on (used to drain on the right outlane constantly). It does sound like your right flipper should be lowered a bit though. It is a really a matter of infinitesimal adjustments. I had mine just right and then started having a little binding on the flipper return. Fixed that and now it’s too far up, left side shots from the right flipper are way too hard again. It requires a lot of precision and patience! I’ll be going back to where that flipper is just a hair below being in line with the guide, that’s where it felt best for me.

I’ll let other people help you out with patch strategies and stuff, I’m still going bonkers trying to figure out how to collect them without draining, how to get all the pre song multiballs going, really just how to prep a song for a good score without losing all my balls in the process. My GC is 28 million. I really suck. But we’ll both be great one day!

Also I tried to work Scorbit tonight for the first time and nothing recorded, so I even suck at that.

Nice work. The other thing I found that it does (before the achievements come) is that you can connect to friends and check in on their scores and stuff. I don’t have any friends, but one day I might, and that will be nice!

Thanks! I will read that and probably find out some things I’m missing, but I figured it out just putzing around in it. Of course, then I had an awful evening of horrible playing, so I’ve opted not to post any scores yet

I did “follow” Karl D though, so I can be sure I don’t get too big for my britches if I ever break, say, 50 million. 870-some million… that’ll remind me not to brag about anything.

Boom I got two friends. I’m deejaypee in Scorbit

I’m putting one of these in mine. It’s authentic I have proof

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Nah, they’ll be in Raleigh, NC this week though. I’ll go see them and tell them you said hi. Sorry that wanker assumed you liked the band whose logo you had on your drink holder. How presumptuous!

I’m getting into the possibilities of Scorbit now, but after I’ve added maybe 6 of you fellas, I’ve only seen one score from Collins so far. I tried to “like” it, or whatever the equivalent is, by hitting the flipper paddle icon so that it goes up. I hope that made you feel good!

Most of my “feed” is Jay A, and one thing that has me puzzled is that it has the ball time and score graphic for Twilight Zone. I have a TZ, but it wasn’t available as a machine to add in the app. Jay, are older machines going to get Scorbit treatment somehow? Are you going into the hardware business?!

I had no idea! I love how so many bright minds are attracted to pinball. I now, is it worth it for me to spend money just to show the world how average I am at pinball….

I just think of you as my grumpy uncle. You’re always there, you say what you want, sometimes it’s nice! And sometimes you’re annoyed or mad. We got room for everyone in this tent.

Also, folks, sometimes Punkin is funny. Plus his avatar is GoGo’s knee with a mace ball hanging beside it. I think we all know where the man stands!

I also like to think that one day someone will see that avatar pic and say “Hey, I love Kill Bill too, great movie.” And I’ll be hitting refresh every 20 seconds for you to tell them that the movie is garbage and Tarantino is a moron, you just like medieval weaponry

You’re like my enthusiastic stepbrother, Vesp. And I’m not sure what it means, Val Kilmer said it in a western of some descript in the 90’s, but I’m your Huckleberry!

Now they’ll just say you’re a shill, these people are impossible to please. Actually, your being part of the chorus on the pinwoofer upgrade helped push me over the edge. You and everyone else on this shill of a thread.

Dan is amazing. I bought my kit secondhand (had never been installed) and the original owner didn’t get the memo that he was one of the very few who got a kit with tweeter brackets that didn’t fit with the back glass. Dan looked up the serial and is presently sending me fitting tweeters, didn’t care that I was a secondary buyer. I’ll get to finally hear it properly by Thursday! Dan is amazing.

Wait, I think I’ve been stupid. Someone said something about being able to loosen/shift the scoop without removing the upper pf before, and I couldn’t find a way to get a driver in there, but I was only looking from the top of the playfield. I figured I just couldn’t find the right tool. Are you saying it can be loosened from underneath? It’s been a long time since I did all that (while I was installing cliffys) but I didn’t catch that that might be possible. Or am I reading wrong because it’s past my bedtime perhaps?

Just got back from the Raleigh GNR show. They played for 3 hours and 20 minutes, and the only break was maybe 3 minutes before the encore. Wow.

They didn’t bring any of their pinball machines, BUT during “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door, Axl said “Can ya help me out?” before the audience back and forth, and I gleefully recognized where it comes from in the game.

Also, the two drunk girls in front of us who sloshed beer all over our feet and once in my eye ended up passing out about an hour in. One of them roused to vomit and then was down for the count. Now, let’s see about those Scorbit achievements!

Ha, and how you’re edging that screwdriver in there? I can’t find a good enough path! I swear you’re all warlocks. Don’t take the glass off on my account, I’ll figure it out eventually. But if you happen to be going in for something else and happen to have your driver in hand

I overthink everything, brotha! Aight now that I’ve got photographic proof I’ll make it happen. Thanks!

Oh and I gotta say that Dan the man PinWoofer sent me the tweeter replacements for the pinwoofer system, and everyone is right, it makes the game a lot better. I ended up deviating quite a bit from the suggested settings (maybe because I have an external sub hooked up too), and DAYUM it sounds really really really good. I’ve only played a few games on it so far, but it feels like an all-new machine and I am happy/impressed!

Thanks for helping push me over the edge. Especially punkin !

I was 0 for about 20 trying. Apple and JJP don’t seem to like each other :/

Nope, didn’t try other dongles, reckon I could order a nice one and give it a go. I happened to have a decent set of wired ones that I used. I also have a pair of Phillips BT headphones that paired just fine, but maybe there’s something to a better dongle having broader support.

That drop flap was my favorite simple engineering feat ever… until one time four balls came flying out and crashed everywhere. What has happened (I believe) is that when the balls have been stopped by the flap in the past, they eventually bent the flap a little so it no longer swings freely. So it got stuck open and the balls were free to explore. Luckily nothing was destroyed and now I know to manually move the flap before I lift the PF. It sticks in place and works fine like that. I just have to remember to move it back open before putting the glass back in.

So keep an eye on those, make sure they’re still swinging freely before you lift the PF with abandon!

You got all the sweet hookups! GNR was my first NIB game—I called seven distributors and landed on Mike at Automated because he reduced the price by the credit card fee he would have paid since I wired the money direct…. but nobody I talked to gave me free shipping!

You sure do have a lot of GNR swag for a guy who doesn’t love the band! I’m getting suspicious…

Err, I feel like someone has had an issue where part of one of their hot rails stops lighting. I didn’t notice it before yesterday and then figured a reboot would fix it, but my right rail seems to have completely stopped lighting from the ball launch gate down. Left rail and above the gate are good. Did someone hex me?

A fine primer, but I’ve watched it already. Surely you’ve evolved and are ready to drop new and improved knowledge on those of us who understand what we SHOULD be doing but are brutalized nightly and sleep with our tails betwixt our legs. Unless you’re holding it back so you can sit atop my scorebit boards with a smirk. Eh, you’ve earned it. Hail ZaphX, I’ll climb my way up to your feet one of these years

Bumping this… I finally had some time to play tonight and got a pretty good score (well, for me… 19 mil), and I excitedly went through Scorbit trying to figure out how to send a challenge to someone. But I am not smart enough. That or Scorbit thinks trying to challenge with 19m is too pathetic to allow.

Just wondering for you pinwoofer gt users out there… when I use the gain knob to prevent the auto-mute function from working (and making the lower level sound moments cut in and out), I get an unacceptable amount of hiss static from the mids and tweeters. It was driving me nuts, so now the game volume is always much higher than usual—then i can keep the gain knob low and it seems to let me play at reasonable levels without the hiss or the auto-mute happening most of the time. It just feels weird to be playing “quiet” games at volumes in the 20s.

It’s not really a problem, just feels weird. Is that how you guys deal with it? I don’t think there’s a way to disable auto-mute; I know the function is meant to help out older games more than the newer ones. I have yet to play a “quiet” game with this setup and I’m not sure I’ll be able to without the auto mute happening. I usually use headphones in quieter house times anyway, but I was thinking about guests who might want to play but keep it fairly quiet. Then again, if overstimulation is a problem for them, they probably shouldn’t be playing GNR anyway!

Dan, you work too hard! I just thought I’d see if the community has a little feedback, to see if people dealt with things in different ways, but I should have known you’d catch it first! Who else goes out of their way to provide customer service to customers who are actively not bugging you?!

I’ve read those and watched a couple of videos but I’m a little sensitive to gain fuzz I think. The dern thing sounds fabulous and I am only here splitting hairs, I couldn’t be happier with @Pinwoofer!

Even the lady of the house, who adamantly was opposed to a mod we couldn’t see, has admitted she could never go back to the old sound and jams out approximately 14 times harder since we installed pinwoofer

Mine don’t hit the slings, but counter clockwise orbit is close to down the middle. I can always save it, it hits around 3/4 of the left flipper, but it’s an ugly chaos right after and I should surely try to reign that in a bit. Shooting multiple orbits does sound fun.

Ready to show my stupidity. I didn’t see a screw, just posts going to lock nut under the playfield holding the guide rail in place. I loosened the nut but there doesn’t seem to be any play there. If I were a brute I’d just bend the guide rail back, but I am a gentleman.

My fault, if I said the right side I apologize. Balls come from the right lovely. The left side is the one I couldn’t find anything but posts for. I went ahead and bent it a little and hit my first double loop!

Aaaaand I just sent a few of you a challenge! It won’t be a challenge for you of course, but I finally broke 30 million and saw the VS button in Scorbit for the first time, so I had to! I mean, I cashed out a 25 million point November Rain jackpot with sweaty palms. No scoop shot has ever meant so much to me.

I don’t know actually. I am pretty sure I sent it to you. Collins, yes? This is my first time obviously, and I don’t see in the app where I can find out to whom I sent the challenges. I was still sweating when I sent them. Also there was some residual trembling going down

I’m not worried about you, you’ll get it back. But man, I lost a 22 mil jackpot once and it was Calgon time. That’s the kind of minor leagues I play in on this confounded game.

Going from memory on this thread, Europeans love them and install them on a lot of their games, some people hate them because it raises the play surface slightly and ruins the intended design, and apparently putting them down on a not-fully-cured playfield can lead to unsightly “wet” spots since the clear can’t aspirate. I’m sure I’m forgetting things.

I’m just now starting to get scores in the 20-30 million range. For me, yes it’s about the patches, but I seem to get more of those and better song values when I successfully stack the pre-song multiballs. And always lock all 6 to start a song if you can.

And for goodness’ sake, cash out when you’re nervous!! I watched too much Karl and came into this thing with a real jagoff cowboy “lay it on the line” mentality. Karl is a bad influence and someone should start a media blitz, a series of PSAs letting people know about the Dangers of DeAngelo. That’s the title of the after school special.

Also, we should rank songs from easiest to hardest. November Rain is my biggest jackpot, so I know that’s the easiest. How I love when my stage screen says Hit Everything!

Then this evening I played Welcome to the Jungle, and had one ball left with three shots to finish the mode. Hit a ramp. Hit an orbit. Hit the inner loop? Crap! Drained after three bricks.

This. But also if you moved the flipper bat. shaft up or down while cleaning it, I’ve found binding flippers on this game when the linkages have some new pressure on them. I know they’re the same parts as my other pins but for some reason they seem to be more sensitive on this game for me. See if lifting (pushing up from the bottom) or lowering the clamp and shaft together makes things seem more free swinging. If so, might want to loosen the nut and raise the shaft in the clamp ever so slightly.

That’s been my issue every time one of these doesn’t want to return “home” thus far.

Thanks for the tips! I do not think I will be besting that score in the very near future. But dang I’m gonna try!

I’m not denying your assertion, but doesn’t Melissa tell me to quit pounding my pud and play on occasion? Maybe I just like it when ladies are rude to me.

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Congrats man! Excited for you!!

I could be wrong, but I think the gun doesn’t go to a specific song. I think I remember that it increases scoring in all songs…

Looking great man! I’ve been waiting for this day for you for as long as I can remember. Congratulations, and you know we’re all here for you as you learn to tweak and repair!

Jeez I drop in for my daily dose and snarkiness abounds! Reckon it’s been a rough week. I recommend a bourbon and ginger to take the edge off.

My take on the latest non-snarky posts is that man yes the LE is pretty and I love the upper pf, but I’ve never had the chance to play the SE and I’d like to see how much more smooth the game would be. Honestly I think it’s kind of garbage that manufacturers started making different versions. You know they start with the game they want and then think of things to take away so they entice us to spring for the fancy stuff. Make a game and sell it, man! I learned about what a butter cabinet was today and I rolled my eyes so hard they came back around from the bottom.

But also doesn’t the coma lock just drop the ball into the trough when you win or lose the ball anyway? I’ve haven’t seen one actually, so maybe it’s cooler than it sounds. Does it kick the ball back in if you get the coma multiball?

And people complain that JJP flippers aren’t strong. I’ve never seen a leaf snapped off like that before. Good find and may your parts ship quickly!

Thank god I am not good enough to keep track of my jackpot balance during a song! Playing Paradise City on Thanksgiving, having a lovely time, hitting my shots, hitting the scoop, hearing Melissa talking about a band frenzy or two, enjoying the song, oh look as usual I drain 3 in a row, oh there goes another, one ball left, scoop is lit, nice I can try to get something out of this, hit the scoop….

Would I like to collect 79 million? Would I like to take more than double my high score by hitting a single button right under my crooked nose? Why yes I would, thanks!!

Rest of game went to plan. Finished with 85 million! And oh yes I sent that one out as a challenge to a few of you