I'm in for a CE. Looks like many differences well worth the jump in price IMO.
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Quoted from zaphX:No cameras, no recorders! Ha! They lost that battle.
So - At A concert I went to in 2005 - they even tried taking people's cameras/phones... We've come a long way lol.
Quoted from PtownPin:I totally agree although this area needs a much better protector. This scoop is gonna take a beating. Unfortunately in the past JJP has had a problems in this area. They tried to make their own protector for DI LE and it was crap. I had to replace mine with Cliffs version. I really don't understand why they don't go to Cliff and have him make protectors that can be factory installed. I mean whats another $20 on a $9500 game?
CGC put the scoop protector on my MB LE I just bought from them. This was just "Factory", as I didn't ask for it. That's the sign of a company that obviously sees the consumer "want" and cares about quality.
BTW - Selling that MB so I can get this GnR CE. We'll see if that's a good or bad move in time.
Quoted from screaminr:Maybe so but what about Nickelback
BOTH excellent entertainers/groups. 
Quoted from screaminr:That Batman is bullshit .
Do you have a consumer affairs over there , a government authority , where you can complain about a product .
Quoted from Sako-TRG:You wanna see pooling?
Have a ganders of my shit box NIB IMDN
What did Stern do - Jack shit...
Or how about my NIB Ribbed BM66?
Crickets!
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The Better Business Bureau lists these complaints on their site and what the Company said/did about it. I would actually file and online report and be prepared to send you correspondence in with it. That playfield isn't acceptable.
Quoted from BMore-Pinball:BBB is a scam
Companies pay to be members and get negative reviews settled in their favor
It gets results, period.
Quoted from romulusx:I got to say it would be nice if someone like Keith from JJP could say something to ease concerns of the machines that are coming out now?I realize that can’t necessarily address the past issues but they need a spokesman here occasionally.
They don't say anything relevant on here....
Quoted from mof:Pardon?
That's a southern expression MEANING - "What do you mean" ?
Didn't know you guys in CA used that one, lol.
Quoted from Eskaybee:We don’t. He’s in San Francisco
I forget that the Bay Area Looks down on California, lol.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Ok, easiest way to bend the upper bracket is this. Remove the Axle sculpt by removing the 2 nylock nuts. Once that's off, there's a screw holding the end of the bracket in place. You can gain a little bit of clearance by adjusting the bracket there. I had to gain a bit extra with some pliers. Once that sculpt is removed, its so much easier to maneuver and see what you're doing without damaging anything.
Thanks for this info !
Quoted from Skyemont:My friend got his SE yesterday.
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Factory post black discs at playfield surface to hide the imperfections?
Quoted from Rolls-Royce:...you’re asking the same question in all threads...(I’ll save you your time), Wyopin answer you this:
-"My guess is they’re serving as a reassurance that the PF doesn’t chip in areas of frequent pooling, rather than “hiding” it...."
So you have no answer, lol...
Quoted from Sako-TRG:Unique CE-Exclusive Playfield Artwork featuring JJP Sparkle
Showcasing Walmart special .................................black rubber washers
EXACTLY !
I have issues with my Avengers LE and Stern is taking care of it.
I did have to email them several times to get things situated, but in the course of 5 emails, I am all set !
People with issues should spend time calling and emailing JJP. In the time it takes to constantly complain here about it, the issue could (possibly) be resolved.
These machines cost a lot of money, and a certain amount of due dilligence (speaking with the company via emails, phone calls, etc) is warranted on the purchaser's part.
Quoted from BallPin:Looks fantastic. IMHO it looks better than the CE shooter plate. LE owners can pimp out their machine to look better than the CE.
Sorry but no.... LOL
Just jealous they couldn't get a CE or afford it.
2 weeks later
Quoted from cooked71:You’ve got it completely tits up. International Passenger aircraft movements are down significantly and subsequently Air freight rates are through the roof. There has been some conversion of passenger planes to freight, but does not even come close to the capacity lost due to the massive collapse of passenger plane movements.
"tits up"?
Quoted from nicoy3k:All games have non refundable deposits
My CE did not require a nonrefundable deposit.....
3 months later
Guys, I have tried updating MANY times on wifi and it looks like it updates, but the version shows 1.16 AFTER the reboot. Look carefully - is anyone's machine actually updating to 1.17?
Spoke to support who told me to leave the coin door open, but wifi strength is at 100% - I did this any way - no luck.
I put in a support ticket.
IF anyone actually is running 1.17 - it should hopefully fix where the Ball comes out during score calculating.... That is what mine is doing on 1.16 and it's annoying as hell - and basically unplayable since the score won't be accurate for the next player/next ball.
Quoted from Lermods:i think it only looks like that if you download the original file to your USB stick. I downloaded it to my pc and then extracted it to my USB stick so you only see one file. i think what I see is fine.
Not doing a full install, delta install.
I finally broke down and did the DELTA UPGRADE (Not full install) so that I didn;t have to backup settings, etc...
On the delta install you will have only 2 folders. The Initial zip folder and then the folder where you extracted it to the root directory (EX - G:\). So 2 "Yellow" folders. One is the zip kind and one is just the folder. The extracted stuff will be in the yellow folder that came from the zipped folder.
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It did work for me - so now on 1.17.... But now wondering if my wifi card in the machine was fried by that 1.16 Gremlin code??
I see a new code update to 1.18.... Facebook shows the update. Confusing part is that is gives links that you must download (not wifi) if you have V 1.15, 1.16, or 1.17....
I just spoke to Ken at JJP about this - he didn't have any news on it yet.
My issue is that this is the FULL ISO file. (Full update). So - no easy Delta update. However, there is a Delta upgrade listed on the support website.
What did you guys do - did the Delta upgrade work, or did you do a full install?
I did a DELTA update from 1.17 to 1.18 just now - via USB and it went fine. However, now I have some other issues. I didn't make applause jackpot on a song and when the balls drained, the computer rebooted... Not sure if that's a bug? Also - when I turn on the machine now, I see a couple of lines of code saying BIOS error (2) and method parse/execution failed (2)....
It finally boots and I can play a game...
Is this something to worry about?
Quoted from pinball_keefer:Not sure, if you can get me a video or picture of what you're seeing, I'll let you know!
Certainly the game shouldn't crash, though. If you can send me a log dump, I'd appreciate it. keith at jerseyjackpinball.com
Will send both right now. Sent support ticket also just now. Thanks for the help !
Quoted from cybevenom:Updated to 1.18. first game i play powerdrain all my balls at once on rocket queen and before the bonus is added to my score the game reboots. Saw this happen on stream as well this weekend on Derek who was on Beta 1.18.
Mine also rebooted. Please file a ticket with JJP support. It's the only way we're going to ever get this code fixed.... Can we PLEASE just go back to 1.14???
2 weeks later
I reported my magnet wasn't working and they sent a replacement. Should I install it or wait until software/hardware are updated?
Anyone here know what could be done to utilize the magnet less, to make the coil/resistor last longer? Not sure if that's a software issue... It would seem like the coil/resistor would work as many times as needed for a certain amount of times. Is this a bad batch of hardware they have with the combo they sent me?
9 months later
I know there is a post containing exactly how to install the Cliffy's.... I just can't concentrate long enough to find it. I've had my CE for a while now but have yet to install these - just not looking forward to removing the upper playfield...
Does anyone have this post bookmarked?
Thanks in advance
1 year later
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