Wrong.
You can use several source on 1 subwoofer, and to preven any conflicting electric signal, you can use pinnovators:
https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/collections/all-other-systems-subwoofer-kits/products/pinsmx-passive-subwoofer-mixer

I have 4 pins (Metallica, Tron, Iron Maiden and AC/DC) connected to the same Polk PSW10, works like a charm !

I ordered (and pay the deposit) the 5th of October... Still no ETA

LE#169 has landed today and... what a game !

I love GnR, and this is why I pulled the trigger the day after the announcement for a LE. There was a lot of hype and buzz around the light show, how "amazing" it was, and this game was a Winner...

I can certify that this was NOT overhyped, and this game is blowing my mind since I installed it ! The light show is truly a new yardstick for the pinball industry ! HOMERUN for JJP !

I have 3 questions regarding the game:
- when the ball "drain" from the upper playfield, it goes to the right outlane 8 out of 10 times. Is it normal ?
- when the ball goes up the right ramp, it does not stay in between the drum sticks but between the right one and the cabinet, then hits the metal ramp wall and gets pushed onto the playfield instead of going down to the right flipper. Is it normal ?
- when the ball gets into the left lock of the center guitar, and gets released, it's 8 out of 10 times a SDTM. Is it normal ?

FYI, my game is currently setup around 7' (instead of 6.5' as recommended).

Back to https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-jjp-gnr-thread/page/88#post-6046120

I have (almost) fixed the drumstick behavior, but I am unable to fix the drain from the guitar lock (left side from player point of view is SDTM), and I think the rate of drain in the right outlane on a drop from the upper playfield is abnormally high.

I share 2 slo mo video in case someone has an idea. FYI, I leveled properly my game.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0h5n8hH4PHiPC

thanks for your help and Happy New Year !

Unfortunately I have a rubber on that post, I replaced it with a Titan's one, it's a little better but still gets too many drains in the right outlane.
BTW, what is the black pad you have in the center of your guitar ? Is it something you've added ? I dont have anything there, and the SDTM from the guitar is the most annoying problem, nothing you can do to save a good game when the ball is released from that spot

For the drumstick issue, it was mainly due to the extra steepness of my initial setup. After getting close to 6.5', the ball gets rarely between the drumstick and the cabinet.

I will try to replace the rubber with a slightly larger one see if it makes a difference before trying to bend the rail guide. I would also prefer to not remove the left ramp as much as possible.

I have -slightly- raised the left of my game and it seems to have improved the SDTM. However, the ball is still going to the right flipper from the left guitar lock, which is interesting. I might try to add a pice of rubber on the left side of the guitar lock to push the ball to the center, which can help it falling onto the guide and pushes it to the left flipper and not the right one.

OK so in my case, ALL of my issues were coming from the left/right level: I thought it was leveled correctly, BUT it was not, the iPhone I used (PinGuy app) was not accurate enough due to the camera module, so I used an iPad mini and the game was slightly toward the left side, by a little less than 0.1'.

After a perfect level left/right, the ball coming from the upper playfield is correctly bouncing on the rubber and does not go anymore in the right outlane. Also, the center guitar lock is not SDTM anymore, ball is still going to the right flipper but enough to not drain.

FYI, I noticed on my game that the guitar lock diverter was moving by itself when the flipper bats or the pop bumpers were activated, and the balls were always going to the left side of the guitar. I checked the manual (page 122), and there is a tiny spring washer (wave disc spring, part 21) that is supposed to provide some resistance to the diverter. Mine was totally loose. So I (CAREFULLY, do not drop it!!!) unscrewed it, with 2 pliers I bent the spring washer, reinstall everything, and problem fixed !

Even if I have not read any problem like this, I think this information can be useful for the community.

It definitely changes the behavior of the left guitar lock, thanks for the tip !

To all, could you explain me or tell me where to find the strategy regarding the patches ? There are way too many and I don't know the impact of getting them.
Also, this game is f* difficult ... I consider myself as an average+ player, but the best score I could do in the last week was 11M and getting a song jackpot above 2M is a fantastic score... I must have missed something in the rules I tried to max out the 4 boosters but it's is still VERY difficult to have a decent score on this game.

What about you ?

Thank you so much ! It does help indeed, and this is the first game I'm having real fights with ! It will take time before being able to have a 6 digits score, and this is fantastic as a home pin !

Need to go and practice thanks again !

Never such issue with my game. Looking at the ball stuck on the guitar diverter, are you sure you have the correct steepness ?

I have 2 questions today:

1) My top-left pop bumper (the one with the cymbal) does not have any light. Is it normal ?
2) How do you increase "Make some Noise" value ? (multi ball launched when shooting under the top-right flipper)

thanks

Mine works exactly that way, orbits shots land on left or right flipper.

Has anyone tried to pair a Bluetooth device ?
I tried with a pair of AirPods Pro and a Bose Soundlink, none of them worked:
- the AirPods cannot be connected (even if they are seen in the device list)
- the game reset when trying to connect the Bose Soundlink !

Is there any other USB Bluetooth dongle that can be installed and offer better quality ?

As suggested before, try to change the coil setting and make it slower from 3 to 4. It changes the ball trajectory
In my case, I had to PERFECTLY level the game left/right to have the ball falling onto the right flipper 95% of the time

The bluetooth dongle is a CSR4.0 (https://www.amazon.com/Multiform-Bluetooth-Wireless-Adapter-Windows/dp/B01C2OQ4E2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top)

On my machine, it does not work, and neither the AirPods Pro or a Bose Soundlink speaker cannot be paired.

Is your Bluetooth works fine ?

Headphone jack work fine here. I was considering purchasing a Bluetooth 2.1 Speaker sets but if the connection cannot work correctly this is a no-go.

Can someone show how the Coma ball save mech works on the CE ?

Same for me, but I lost a 34M jackpot yesterday with Estranged song. I'm still crying.

Today I finished You could be Mine song, I got the Applause jackpot, but then there was no Encore mode and I went back to the pre-concert mode to earn a new song.

Is it normal ?

Anyone to make a lexan shield to prevent the ball from draining in the left outlane after hitting the left ramp target and jumping over the left plastic ?

I noticed a weird behavior today, and I was wondering if this is a bug or intentional:

I played to get all 4 patches regarding the boosters (Firecracker, Lights, Amp and Horn Hands).
I got Lights, Amp, and I started the Lights and Amp multi ball, which I both maxed out.

Then I got the 2 others patches, and when I wanted to start Ignite the flames multibal, I noticed that I had to start from scratch the Lights and Amp... they were not maxed out anymore...

Is that a bug ? Or is there a time limit where the boosters can be kept maxed out, then they roll back to 0 ?

thanks

Update via WiFi went as smooth as possible, connect, download, reboot (2 or 3 times) then done !

I can't tell the same with the bluetooth connectivity, where I can't pair my AirPods Pro or a Bose Soundlink. I did not try anything else yet, but if you know a better USB Bluetooth dongle that work with GnR, let me know !

FYI, if you have like me some issues with the left ramp flap jumping out of the right hole, I found a solution : just cut the head of a zip tie and insert it to the outer wireframe. Problem solved !

Gnr_Ziptie (resized).jpeg

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the drawback in connecting the headphone jack to an input from a 2.1 system instead of using a line-out (which implies purchasing an accessory) ?

Happens to me many times , the ball hits the right target at the entrance of the left ramp and jumps over the left plastic to drain in the left outlane.
There is definitely a polycarbonate shield to be made here to prevent this !

Good to have updates and bug fixes, but still no Desert Demolition in this update

LTG

I have downloaded the 1.13 update and prepared the USB stick to proceed with a local installation and not being dependent of the busy servers, but it's been 2 hours and the update is still progressing. (see attached photo).

I wonder if the game reboots automatically after the update and because the USB stick being plugged in, re-start over and over again with the update.

If this is the case, the auto-reboot MUST be disabled, I can't stay in front of the game during 1+ hour waiting for the update to complete t unplug the USB drive at the right time !!!

IMG_7505 (resized).JPG

FYI, You don't need to unplug anything to update your game via USB. ANY USB slot available will do the job. Just saying...

Do you know how to tighten the spinning record to stop it wobbling ?
height adjustment is ok, but I could not find how to stabilize it, so from time to time a ball get stuck at the edge of the spinning record and the playfield.

Yes it does, it's in the daughter board near the tilt mechanism, next to the Bluetooth dongle.

LE from December 2020, Code 1.14, no issue with Magnet

Is it normal that the code updates on JJP website are gone ?

I noticed that yesterday already

I go at first to get the 4 boosters patches (Light / AMP / Horn Hand / Firecracker) because the game is so drainy, it's better to be able to start several times the booster multi ball before starting a song.

Then I use to select the 4 sponsors in order to enable the extra ball.

After a song, get the patch to help you in the mini wizard mode you are qualified for.

I'm interested too in installing a soundbar, so any detail about your setup will be highly appreciated

1 of my blue pad around the center scoop is almost dead, do you know where to find this part ?
In the manual, the reference is 25-100007-00 "Snubber block" but I can't find this reference anywhere.

Closest I could find is https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/626-5067-00 but hey, $2.90 for a small piece of rubber ???? And I'm not even sure this is the good one...

IMG_7597 (resized).jpeg

Yep, that's the part ! thanks, I did not even know about this store !

FYI, Flipper bats from Titan won't help. I broke mine in a little more play than the OEM ones, but nothing really satisfying.
I installed some Super-bands ones, and so far so good.

I won't update from 1.19 until I see Desert Demolition implemented

Regarding the spotlights, I have my right one freshly replaced (kudos for top-notch support from JJP) after the X-axis died.
However, I think the problem COULD happen again, because I noticed the right spotlight is under excessive stress during test mode:
- when the left spotlight is tested, it moves and you can hear the servo stops almost instantly after reaching its position
- when the right spotlight is tested, it is different, and I can clearly hear the servo still trying to move the spotlight even after it reaches its position. It is also moving LESS than the left one, which could explain why the servo is still running even if the spotlight cannot move anymore.

I have checked several and nothing prevent the right spotlight to move freely, it simply does not have the same area covered than the left one.

pinball_keefer Could you explain if there is a signal sent back from the servo(s) that you check to spot moving the spotlight ?

Can you check if the servo is still powered when the spotlight stops to move ? If yes, then there could be some change in the code to prevent excessive stress on the servo(s)

WRONG

My right spotlight died on the X-axis (I received the replacement in few days, kudos to JJP for great support)

Considering the number of playfield with manufacturing defects, is there any class action to have Mirco do the right thing ?

It seems unbelievable that JJP cannot make Mirco liable for so many playfield manufacturing issues.

For the record, my LE have same issues:
- pooling at the left inlane
- 3 posts with pooling and art tearing
- other spots of pooling (not in visible areas)

Dec.2020

http://www.passionforpinball.com/wip.htm

As you can see on the shared pictures, the washers were installed under the posts but it is only making the damage larger: the art and clear are pooling around the washer.

Pay attention to the posts that can be hit hard repeatedly by the ball, you will probably find some damages on the playfield

Just email Cliff, and he will send you an invoice. Be patient, he is 4 weeks back on these protectors !

I ordered 4 ES3054 just in case

Sorry I cannot recommend anything as I am "simply" a game owner like you, so I have no legitimacy to tell you precisely what to do, only sharing my own experience and advices from professionals.

Large carbon protectors are used with star post and other large ones, where 3/4 ID are used with small post WITH their washers.
Please consult http://www.passionforpinball.com/wip.htm for more details

I purchased a set of 10 small washers, not installed them yet as I'm waiting for JJP regarding the tickets I have opened. I dont want to make any intervention before their inputs.

This looks really GREAT !

Most frequent occurence of clear pooling / art torn is at:
- left inlane post where the ball drops
- upper playfield at lock entry
- posts just below the A,X,L lanes
- post at Bottom right of pop bumper (especially the one below the right plastic ramp)

Feel free to complete the list

Never adjusted mine ! Never had a SDTM from the scoop

Is it the post you are talking about ?
https://www.pinballlife.com/1-78-tall-metal-post-with-10-32-threaded-base.html

Double check that the scoop protector does not interfere with the openings of the 2 rods that release the balls from the guitar lock. I had to re-disassemble and remove the scoop protector to trim it with a Dremel.

Maybe it's time to use Cliffy's technic so any washer (PETG, metal,...) can move without damaging the playfield ?

http://www.passionforpinball.com/JJP-GNR/CF-washer-compare.jpg

I installed Cliffy's carbon ring under washer on spots where the clear was badly pooling / chipping. I believe it adds an important buffer surface between washers (whatever material, metal or plastic) and the shitty playfield.

I removed (and reinstalled) the upper playfield to clean underneath, but I dont remember where the RJ45 connects to the node board: does it goes to connector marked LB1 or LB3 ?

I can't find the information in the manual. Thanks.

Thanks Zaph It's then the LB3

Had the same wobbling, I simply pressed with my finger in the center of the decal while I was screwing underneath. When the disc stops wobbling you can stop.
I also added to the screw some loctite, worked like a charm and the record never wobbled again.

I noticed some micro power-cut on the left flipper during some games. When I tried to diagnose in the test menu all was fine.
Is anyone else experiencing the same behavior ?