Anyone done any nice GnR art blades yet?

Just thinking, may be better if mirrors are reporting to be too tight.

I have that same problem for drains off the left side of the guitar lock. Consistently SDTM when released. The right side seems to push the ball away from the center while the left is straight down the middle.

From watching your videos it looks like the balls trajectory is changed once it falls down onto that step beneath it. After investigating the issue on my own machine I believe the ball is hitting the ramp support before it drops to the playfield. This is pushing it back towards the middle and causing the drains (at least on my machine).
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It appears that list picture is the adjustment you made that fixed it?

Played GNR for the first time last night. Amazing game. Gonna sell my Rick and Morty to buy an LE.

No. Just a different angle. I haven't made any adjustments.

I wonder if playing with the coil release speed settings would help?

Don't have the game yet but just looking at your vid, I wonder if before bending stuff, you could try putting a small piece of mylar on the ramp support to possibly change either the rotation or deflection of that ball hitting the support. Maybe even 2 or 3 layered pieces to help deaden the ball deflection. Just spitballing ideas

That’s what I did with the drop dead ball foam as seen in my pic a few posts ago - it’s working well, but a more permanent solution would be nice.

A lot of people in these GNR and LZ threads, are saying most of you have not even played GNR or LZ yet you bash it. Well I have put in hours on a GNR and had a blast. GNR is a very fun, enjoyable, exciting in your face top game. I am what you JJP fans call a stern fanboy. But I still like other games from OTHER BRANDS too. I don't understand the hate for GNR or LZ, especially if you have not put hours on it and have given it a fair chance.

Maybe someone with a game that is adjusted properly can take a slo-mo?

I have no issues with the lock release going STDM or the drumsticks, but the upper field return being deadly into the right outlane has been there from the beginning for me too. Game is well levelled back and front, and I have tried adjusting pitch from around 6.2 (horrible) all the way to 7.5 and it seems to make no difference. I feel this game needs to be at least at 7 degrees - anything less and it's just too slow. I leave it a touch over 7 and it plays great.

Karl mentions in his video that the return into the right outlane was the one thing he tuned on his game, and he "fixed" it by moving the guide. You can see in his video that on his game the ball exists much higher and it ends up hitting right below the upper flipper.

Eventually I figured out that I can prevent the drain with a good nudge *just* as the ball is traveling over the last post - right when it's going over the rubber ring. If I execute it properly I end up with the ball in just about the same spot as on Karl's machine.

I was considering adjusting the guide like Karl did, and I think if I made that correction my average scores would triple instantly, but I don't think I am going to do it. As I get better at the game I am finding some of the multiball songs to last a really long time, and that brutal drain is a major equalizer and I feel it balances the game nicely.

Besides, that perfectly timed nudge to avoid the drain is a nice skill to practice, even more so during multiball chaos! I am going to leave it as is and just think of it at GNR: Hardcore Edition.

Take it somewhere else mate. This is an owners thread for gun's and roses, not a comparo thread. No-one here is bashing any machines we are just talking about the new gun's and roses machines we are either getting or have. There are no JJP fan's here or Stern fanboy's as you call them, just people talking about gun's and roses machines.

Pretty pathetic attempt at a troll.

I really dont think they are trolling, but I understand why you may have taken it that way.

Fanboys are toxic in any event.

Nudging has worked well for me. My concern are the guests who play my game. I want to give them a good experience. Thinking about moving it like Carl did as well. But I might try a slightly larger rubber to see if it kicks it up just a little bit.

Not as sure as you, come into an owners thread and accuse the participants of bashing one machine which we like enough to lay thousands on, or another which no-one here is even talking about, let alone bashing?

Certainly walks like a duck.

Stop up and play mine until you get one.

I think the CE’s are going on the line next week. Boy I’m excited if I see pics Monday morning.

Nice! Played it at a friends on New Year’s Eve. Couldn’t get enough

I'm in on LE... I think it'll be 1-2 months out. Just guessing.

Still many of us waiting on day 1 orders for the le and se. They are moving on to the ce and will be running those for month's. So unfortunately long waits for everyone especially if you ordered after day 1 and especially recently. I hope things get rolling a little more smoothly now that they have made 200-300 of them.

Anyone know how to fix the keyboard from constantly scoring. Before a ball even plunged I hear the keyboard.

Adding to this I meant they have made 200-300 after the 100 or so that were ready at release. So sld be around 300-400 worldwide or at least shipped at this point in time.

Ok too many beers...it’s the bass guitar. Any hints? Thanks for the quick response.

I am thinking about getting GnR. Luckily there is one on location where I am moving this week so I will get a chance to play the game. How does sales tax work these days if I buy from someone outside my state?

I’m think that Karl moved the guide towards the player so that the ball makes more contact with that rubber ring. I actually moved my guide towards the back of the game and now it always goes in the right inlane.

If they sell a certain amount to your state they are required to charge you sales tax.

Collect sales tax. You’re obligated to pay it either way.

Oh, noted. Thanks

Yes you’re right but no one does.

Incorrect, if its an out of state order, there is no sales tax. The exception is if the dealer is out of state but has a "warehouse " or shipping facility in state. Then taxes are required.

If a dealer sells a ton to your state, you’re gonna get charged sales tax on top of the game. If they don’t do much business in your state, you’re clear from them charging you.

You owe in either case though, but again, no one ever pays.

Look up Nexus rules for more info.

Taxation is theft :p

This is supposed to be a happy thread and you dare bring up nexus rules?

I didn’t know you were such a troll.

I will try to replace the rubber with a slightly larger one see if it makes a difference before trying to bend the rail guide. I would also prefer to not remove the left ramp as much as possible.

I have -slightly- raised the left of my game and it seems to have improved the SDTM. However, the ball is still going to the right flipper from the left guitar lock, which is interesting. I might try to add a pice of rubber on the left side of the guitar lock to push the ball to the center, which can help it falling onto the guide and pushes it to the left flipper and not the right one.

Yep certainly makes the game no fun

75% of balls exiting from my upper playfield were draining out the right outlane, even with nudging sometimes, and this was with the ball completely missing the rubber due to the factory rail setup. The rail has some play designed into it for adjustment to prevent this I assume.

OK so in my case, ALL of my issues were coming from the left/right level: I thought it was leveled correctly, BUT it was not, the iPhone I used (PinGuy app) was not accurate enough due to the camera module, so I used an iPad mini and the game was slightly toward the left side, by a little less than 0.1'.

After a perfect level left/right, the ball coming from the upper playfield is correctly bouncing on the rubber and does not go anymore in the right outlane. Also, the center guitar lock is not SDTM anymore, ball is still going to the right flipper but enough to not drain.

FYI, I noticed on my game that the guitar lock diverter was moving by itself when the flipper bats or the pop bumpers were activated, and the balls were always going to the left side of the guitar. I checked the manual (page 122), and there is a tiny spring washer (wave disc spring, part 21) that is supposed to provide some resistance to the diverter. Mine was totally loose. So I (CAREFULLY, do not drop it!!!) unscrewed it, with 2 pliers I bent the spring washer, reinstall everything, and problem fixed !

Even if I have not read any problem like this, I think this information can be useful for the community.

I got this t shirt for Christmas.. pretty awesome.

Maybe jjp can make a goldn girls wizard mode ....

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I ordered oct 14th, I was just told 2nd quarter of 2021.

If the CE's start to be built on Monday and there staying with them until all 500 are built, you're looking at least 10 weeks until they get back onto the LE and SE package if they're producing 50 a week.

After finding the screws I looked for the bracket and it was underneath the shaker cover. Thanks for pointing out the bulletin. I fixed mine up this morning!

Yep this is true. I would say SE and LE should get back in the line late March or early April.

Question for SE owners ... are you still enjoying your game or do you have regrets not getting an LE?

I’m really hoping JJP increases their capacity from the current ~50 games a week (if accurate). I’m not expecting them to be Stern (~250 games a week) but I see no way they can get out more than 1 new game a year at their current rate. It may take them 5-6 months just to knock out the day 1 orders

It’s been like that from 2013 to today. I don’t think it will change. I’m ok with 1 a year. That’s just me.

I had a bag of these little rubber cabinet door stops that I got for my buddies Dracula. $3.00. I put one at the bottom of the metal post and it actually works fantastic. It does not impact my right flipper shot around the center orbit at all. I'm not sure how long it'll stay on. The one I put on Dracula 5 months ago is still there.

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I thought Jack had mentioned his goal was 2 games for last year. Obviously COVID messed things up but I thought part of the reason for the factory move was they outgrew the old space. It’s rough for people that ordered an LE on day 2 to maybe not see a game for 6-7 months. I’m not sure how you grow the business like that.

I suppose most of us will have to live vicariously through Karl and his twitch streams. Doing that right now in fact...