Spotify playlist of all of the GnR songs in the game. Don’t think I have seen it anywhere else but apologize if a duplicate with someone else’s work.

#jjp-guns-n-roses-ce Guns N' Roses (LE) Guns N' Roses (SE)

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2UInWuy6ILD7qYA5S4Bbij?si=wkcMImF4TP6WmGNPg3q_Vg

Turn ball saves off. Fixes the problem. If you have a bad start In multiball you are done

Depending on how many/long the multiballs are from the factory, this may be a great option. Although, ballsave at initial plunge is nice occasionally

I believe normal ball save and multiball ball save are separate adjustments.

Serious question, is every mode that is tied to starting a song a MB? For how much I like what I’m seeing, that is a major concern.

Any drummers on here want to adjust those hi-hat cymbals or is it just me? I feel like that's way too much gap between cymbals. lol. Serious question.....I wonder how the drum sticks will wear over time.

Home set-up of any pinball IMHO needs ball saves off.

I'm a bit concerned as well, but this seems like something that if enough people complain about could be adjusted by settings or code updates. I'm guessing this is to appeal to the non-pinhead. They can get some excitement on one credit.

I've mentioned this several times before and I'm not sure why it's never been implemented. It would be nice to have an easy option, at least in free play mode. On the very rare occasion that my wife will play, it's 3 quick balls and done. I think my kids would play more as well if they had an easy leaderboard. Player one plays with a handicap, player 2 normal (or extra hard) rules.

so LE buyers - seems like a limited bunch is getting it this week? Or are majority getting very soon? I'm bummed b/c apparently "a few weeks" for me.

I'm in on CE.. don't have number yet.. had to go directly to JJP.. after finding about no definitive allocation from my usual distro.

So for the most important question, has anybody inquired about playfield protectors?

From what I saw I would turn multiball ball save off right away. And encores letting you have a ball save AND an add a ball? Jesus, turn that off too.

To each their own, but, you couldnt give me one of those for free. Clean and wax your playfield, change out worn balls, replace rubbers when needed and you'll be fine. These machines are meant to be played.

Must admit the videos shown so far do raise concerns regarding the multi ball feature in song modes. I’m guessing the idea is that during a song all band members are active hence lots of balls in play? The Buffalo stream should answer some questions.

1. How much of the game takes place outside of songs. From what I have read of the rules you don’t need to complete multiple songs to progress to wizard modes. So if the song modes are just an additional rather the primary objective maybe the multi ball heavy focus won’t be such an issue. Maybe it’s a case that on an average game you only playing one maybe two songs , with the rest of the time focused on other sub modes/objectives.

2. From reading the rules I was under the impression that any song can be stacked into a multi ball. For the le/ce this would be based on how many physical balls where locked prior to starting the song, for standard balls would be virtually locked. However when watching the short video above, it’s clear that additional balls where added to the start of the song then the two held in the guitar lock. I can see the rules working if the number of balls you lock prior to starting the song determines the balls in play. This makes sense in terms of risk reward I.e do you go for more ball locks then activate song. However if it just spits out 6 balls at the start of each song regardless that would be concerning.

3. 100% agree with other posts regarding the ball save time and the seemingly unlimited add a balls in the song mode. It came across as though the player had to actively try drain in order to end the game. Maybe not I’m not getting the complexity of the rules but from the video the game just kept spitting balls continuously into play. Even when balls had been locked in the guitar , the play didn’t return to single ball, the machine just kept shooting more from the trough. I’m sure I’m missing something as the video just did not make sense from a typical multi ball progression.

4. The rock meter is aimed at punishing players for trapping up during multi ball which hey that’s fine, force players to change play style. But don’t compensate by giving them unlimited balls in play. This doesn’t encourage playing on the fly, it just removes any skillful approach to shot making.

The only thing I can bank on is that keefer is a extremely good player and rules designer. With this knowledge I am sure that there is something I’m missing some context or nuisance that has not come across in the gameplay videos posted so far. I doubt the game will be a continuous multi ball flail. Either songs are few and far between or the song modes we have seen are been shown out of context I.e the player did a lot of work to load balls prior to commencing the song.

For myself the one major take away is that you cannot deny the atmosphere the game is creating. The light , audio, display integration is simply on another level. It really feels like a concert is going on live before your eyes. As long as the rules are implemented so that there is enough downtime in single ball play to build up to these big song multi ball moments I think it will all work well.

There is a buffalo pinball unboxing video on youtube.
You can see that the november rain is a singel ball mode, but then he got an add-a-ball and the mode became a multiball.

I would like to see a setting to turn all those multiballs off. This game will end up as a forever multiball game. I don’t want that.

I almost feel like pinball today with so many ball save timer, add a ball, extra ball, ball save in a Multiball!!! Why it’s a Multiball don’t give super long grace period. It’s like you’re going to be in ball save or Multiball much of the time and don’t forget out lane ball save mode on top. You’ll never get out of this concert.

You forgot :

ALL the Shots are JACKPOTS!!!

This has been said a bazillion times. At somepoint people need to get over the fact that the hobby moves fast these days. There's alot of buyers out there that are willing to put money down to get a game in their home. Turns out COVID is probably fueling this movement, not stopping it. If they don't like it, they sell it. A little loss is acceptable.

This is a big money hobby folks, like it or not. Nothing is going to take it backwards until sales drop.

Do we really need to act mystified anymore?

SE on order

I'm holding out for the drum stick protectors...

The true limited edition. Congrats! I have a sneaky suspicion the SE may be the better player for players who like speed and chaos.

So each machine will have a random platinum spinning record. Bet Pinside will have a value associated with each record. Like LE for sale. Appetite For Destruction version.

Owners with Spaghetti Incident or Chinese Democracy will be treated like peasants

Same here, I was about to order one then saw these concerning endless multiballs and decided to hold on until I can play the game.

I like multiballs but not to the point of overdosing on them.

As they should. Best if they just scratch it out...

Does anyone know if the drumsticks will be cleared? I am thinking it may be a good idea to remove them and clear them or just add more if already done to help with wear from the balls travelling down them???

They say they will offer stickers later to pick what you want, but if they don’t I bet you right.

Can't wait to hear about drumstick dimpling.

I'm thinking I would probably replace the signed sticks with some unsigned sticks, then send the signed sticks to Kruzman for a good clearcoat or just keep them safe in the cabinet.

LE Number 225 coming home!

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I'm betting Eric thought about this...

Where'd you get it??

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1160-classic-game-rooms

GnR in the House. Loving it so far. If you like the band you got a game and a back stage pass with this theme. Amazing work Eric and JJP Team.

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I think those guys may be my new go to. I'm in knoxville and can drive down there no problem. I'm tired of distros dragging their heels on individual orders.

Congratulations ! Couldn't happen to a nicer Dave !

LTG : )

Question for those of you that have had Pins shipped via DLS Worldwide. Actually looks like Fedex LTL is the shipper, DLS is arranging it.
Showing a status of booked, and ETA of 10/9. Is the ETA of when they're picking it up or when I should see it?
Status ETA
Booked 10/09/2020 10:00 AM

Dave, last time I was at your house I think one of my keys fell off of my key ring and went underneath one of your machines.

Ok, if I come by after work today to look for that?

Nice!
Congrats!!!

Hope mine arrives soon!

Last game I had shipped with Fedex LTL the 'ETA' date was the day it got to my local depot. I think that day was when they called to have someone bring it to the house, which was a business day or 2 later.

Wow.. congrats to JJP.. not only announce a game.. BUT.. also be able to deliver in less than 24 hours.. awesome.. hoping this is the way forward from now on..

EDIT: misread the post.

Did u try connecting a sound bar to the game? interested in hearing if that works

Bluetooth sound bar might be a good option

Looks like there is a mantis style protector on the center scoop. Can anyone confirm/shed some light on this?

No because I just got it and a sound bar is the last concern right now lol. Have a group coming over tonight so they can just listen to it regular loud.

Looks like it but hardly needed to be honest as the ball barely drops an inch. Seems to work fine with what they provided no complaints.

Hey Yelobird how's the pin shoot?

Amen x 1000

LOL! That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw the drum sticks.