I’ve definitely restarted the machine and hasn’t fixed it. Sometimes yesterday it would go long periods without doing it and then would start up very random.

Also just checking it out, it will plunge and achieve the skill shot so I would think it’s not a case of the machine thinking a plunge has already been attempted.

Thanks for the tip! I lifted the playfield and found the jam plate and two bolts from the diverter sitting in the bottom of the cabinet. I reinstalled it, but the diverter only goes up when I open the coin door, and then it goes back down as soon as I hit the left ramp, never to go back up until I open the coin door again. Any thoughts?

There is a diverter test in the menu. Use that to test. Make sure the game didn’t disable it because it thought it was broken.

The diverter test on the left ramp isn’t working. It won’t respond to the test . . . It just sits there. Do you know how to enable it, if the game thought it was broken?

I’d call Barry @JJP on this in the morning. They should be able to talk you through what is wrong.

Ok, thanks. Can you pm me his number?

I have also had this happen at different points.

No PM needed.

(630) 830-5225

Thank you!

Mine has done this on occasion. Since it awards a skill shot I imagine the problem is the skillshot rollover switches. However, calibration test shows no foul play. If it continues to become a problem I may reseat the connectors associated with that board of switches.

Make sure the coin door is closed or at least you have the high power interrupt switch pulled when testing.

The GnR to Led Zeppelin comparisons will be full speed ahead in just a few minutes.I want to be first to say the artwork on JJP GnR kicks the shit out of LZ in the art department!Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock band of all time,but I think GnR kicks their ass when it comes to pinball machines.I reserve the right to modify my opinion over time but I don't believe I will need to!

You got it in first. I was holding back. It is a very funny comparison. Not even close. Well, not in this life time. Holy shit the pro cabinet art work looks like Bally’s Bugs Bunny artwork.

You are not allowed to shoot the scoop back-to-back, you need to touch anything else first. Might be what you were seeing.

I've thought pretty seriously about it being a rockit meter hit, but it's not implemented yet.

Definitely check shooter lane sensor in sensor switch test. Apologies if this was already cleared up, going one page at a time catching up.

Rockit meter would definitely be a cool way to do it. Tough decision as it’s more of a player based rule than a casual player rule. Maybe a setting with it default off (on for competition?).

I don’t even know what to say, I’m so mixed. Own 3 sterns and now that I have my first JJP NIB experience, and a GNR at that! ...my first thought is there’s no comparison - GNR is in another realm. But there’s people gawking all over Zep, “look at that new light show”...I’m like wtf. Clearly they haven’t played GNR. Seriously, How do I ever buy another stern again after experiencing GNR!?
You guys at JJP suck!

The truth shall set u free.

I like Sterns a lot, and I am sure LZ will be a good shoter. Bottom line though, I almost feel guilty about getting GnR when I see LZ. While I think LZ will be "another good Stern," I expect my kids will be fighting over who gets GnR when I'm gone. My opinion only of course...

Genuinely considering either Zep or GnR.

Still think Zep will be the better shooter.

But, GnR LE vs Zep LE?

GnR LE is just head and shoulders better in every way.

I mean, it's not even close. Wow.

I will definitely try this when I get home today. Thanks Keefer it has not been cleared up yet.

Well it’s just the truth that anyone can see if they’re honest!Is your avatar from Crime of the Century?

I unvisited the thread, all the machines are ugly, LE less so, but jesus. The pro hasn't got the only cool mech on there. meh.

Was interested if not excited.

My guess is, most of the folks who love the LZ are hardcore fans of the band. Hopefully those who buy it will enjoy it. I'm pretty sure it will have better "flow" than GnR, but the attention to detail, licensing, artwork, theme integration, etc, all fall far short of GnR. Also, I will venture a guess that the LED light rails from Stern dont compare to the JJP system. Obviously I may be wrong since no one has seen them in full action yet. I love me some Stern pins, but LZ looks like a hard pass unless you are a fan of the group. My worthless 2 cents.

Yeah i don't really get all that 'my favourite band' thing. I didn't like Guns and Roses as a kid and still don't much.
At 15 i listened to Led Zep, Deep purple, Pink Floyd especially, David Bowie, Joe Walsh etc.

I still listen to a few of those bands rarely, mostly a song at a time rather than albums, but my favourite bands when i was 20, 30, 40 and 50 have all changed.
ATM i'm listening to hip hop more than anything, just never understood those who listen to the same music all their lives.
'Hit's from the 80's and 90's radio? Fuck no! We loved that music when we were kids because it was new as much as because it was cool.

I listen to new music if i listen to radio, in Australia it's JJJ, govt young people radio (yaah! No ad's). My favourite style of music and the bands that i listen to change as i mature, surely that's the way it should be as we are not the same person as we were (hopefully) at twenty, so why would we like the same things? (love me some spotify, keeps me up to date on what's happening in music)

So while i loved Led Zeplin as a kid, i would not buy a pin based on that.

Didn't like Aerosmith as a kid, have an LE. Didn't like GnR as a kid, have an LE coming, didn't like ACDC as a kid or an adult, don't like the game. Etc Etc

Theme is secondary to art and gameplay by a very long margin for me.

Gunners has the art, the innovation, the mechs and the coolest ramps in the pinball world. That's why i can't wait to get it even though i don't give a rat's about the music.

So, one suggestion i would like to make is that the 'Shoot Again' insert be excluded from being a part of any of the light shows. I have noticed a number of times recently where that insert has been blinking and I let a ball go that may have been saveable, only then to realize I had no ballsaver at the time and that was just part of some lighting animation. That is one of those insert lights that you kind of need confidence is telling you accurate information.

Agreed

Got these today and wants to share. liorillusion is an incredible talent. Absolutely beautiful.

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We need a zoomed out picture to see how it all looks on that beautiful LE

My mates would ash their joints in the eye holes for sure.

haha! Mine would certainly pop open a beer in the eye sockets!

Dude that is sic

To Bad The Nose was not the Plunger

If you did that half the face is cut off.

You think it would be better if it was sticking two inches higher than the lock bar do you? Or do you mean rescale the whole thing so it's two inches smaller all round?

You'll have to make one and show us what you mean.

Then it would look like a clown.

Say what? Lol. I thought you had a GnR bedding set! Lol. I would call that a super fan. (Or a not married fan) lol

The Gnr bedding is a tribute to the pinball machine, not the stupid band. I'm a pinball superfan.

Is the rubber on your flippers falling apart?

Where do I get replacements and is there a different kind I should get? I've had my Iron Maiden since April and they still look new. I've had the GNR for 10 days, home use only. Also, where do I buy the clear-ish white rubber pieces. I noted one was missing but the machine only came with the larger size. You can see that I put it on the pin on the right side of the picture, but it is too big.

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Everybody got crappy flipper rubbers so you're not alone. Many like the Titan silicone pinball rubbers and here is a link.

https://www.titanpinball.com/

My JP2 red ones wore down faster. In either case i found the red ones from pinball life were a better fit for my JP2 and the Marco specialty red ones were better for GNR. Go figure. Luckily I had both on hand.

I’m not a fan of titan silicone for flippers, but may have to try them on GNR next time I order from them.

Speaking of rubbers. Anyone know where to order replacement rubbers (posts, slingshots, etc...) that JJP uses for GNR?

This reminds me the time I reported an IMDN bug to Keith Elwin that if you lock a ball on the right loop, the loop jackpot timer continues to count down and will timeout before it releases. His response: don’t do that.

Titan has a kit. I ordered that. For flipper rubber I’m using superbands currently but have the Titans ready to swap in when I want a change.

Really insane how crappy the stock rubbers are with this game.

Wo for those of you getting 25M and 50M point scores? What’s your strategy? So far I’ve only been able to squeeze out 10M max.

I’m hearing rumors the CE’s will be in the line by or before the 20th of Dec. OMG if this is true.

They were supposed to be on line last week.. and this week..

In settings I recalibrated the rollovers and it seems to be good now. Thanks keeper.

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