Fairport, NY
Quoted from Medic:Told the wife I would sell one for GNR... made it fit and in no hurry
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Did you quote the date and time it would be sold by ??
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Just got my JJP GNR LE today. filming a most epic unboxing video, stay tuned to my YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdHfiagwISS_15WwJk804aA?view_as=subscriber
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Vaughan, ON
Quoted from pins4life33:I have to say I am pretty disappointed with the lack of communication from JJP on our GNR machine. We are having a serious resetting issue on location and we sent an initial request 10 days ago, it took them 5 days to respond to us, and then I sent them a dump file that day once they requested for it, and still no response back on this issue. Being on location clients want to play the machine, and with the way things are right now it is already difficult enough as it is without the machine working. We had to cancel a launch party event and reschedule and this issue might not be addressed by the time the rescheduled date is on Dec 11, very disappointing. Out of the big three (Stern, JJP, AP) I would have to say they are the most unresponsive to technical issues, just something to think about again when purchasing machines from certain manufacturers. AP is by far the best with response times in hours instead of days.
I agree with you, but I would add that Multimorphic support is the best in my experience. Probably as good as AP, but I have not owned AP yet. MM was emailing me, often Gerry Stellenberg himself, at any time of day, night or weekend. they're amazing.
JJP is inundated IMO with tech problems on most if not all of their games. they have a QC problem, yes, but eventually, they will get around to resolving them. I sympathize with you as an operator it is a huge bummer to shut your launch party down and your new attraction game being disabled is such a huge kick in the junk.
I hope your issues are attended to promptly in the future with JJP. Hope they are listening here...
Woolgoolga
Quoted from Pinballomatic:Black was on the SE models earlier
Just maybe they listened to the negative people suggesting they were trying to hide something when 'clearly' they wern't?
Quoted from HEAD_boss_HOG:Probably as good as AP, but I have not owned AP yet. MM was emailing me, often Gerry Stellenberg himself, at any time of day, night or weekend. they're amazing.
JJP is inundated IMO with tech problems on most if not all of their games. they have a QC problem, yes, but eventually, they will get around to resolving them. I sympathize with you as an operator it is a huge bummer to shut your launch party down and your new attraction game being disabled is such a huge kick in the junk.
I hope your issues are attended to promptly in the future with JJP. Hope they are listening here...
Just a variable to consider... You are comparing companies with 10's of Thousands of customers to those with Hundreds of Total sales. Yes, these other companies can for Sure improve and it does get frustrating but they are Far from similar in resources per customer/owner.
Quoted from Cobra:Cool. Is it just me or does that left leg look like its on more of angle then the other one?
I was thinking that as well looking at that pic. Although that is a good picture!
I disabled the camera in the physical settings and still getting the reset issue on my third ball. Pretty frustrating I have to say, even more frustrating as JJP still hasn’t gotten back to me after I sent them the dump file. The game now has a left flipper issue I have to deal with now too, all I can say is I have a bunch of Sterns in here and they don’t have any issues hardly ever. This machine has been a nightmare right from the start. Too bad as I think it is generally a descent game to play once you tweak the settings a little for gameplay. One frustrated customer, what do you do.
Quoted from pins4life33:Okay I will try that next time I am in the arcade, and let you know. Funny that JJP did not provide that advice on their response a few days ago and just wanted the dump file. Thanks.
Quoted from Medic:Told the wife I would sell one for GNR... made it fit and in no hurry
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If she makes you sell one I’d buy the DP for my kid
Quoted from Kkoss24:If she makes you sell one I’d buy the DP for my kid
Can't see it being DP, hard to pick from that lineup for most but Nedry couldn't leave my place quick enough.....ahhh ahhh ahhhhhh, ahhh ahhh ahhhh Shoot the left ramp ugh
Quoted from pins4life33:even more frustrating as JJP still hasn’t gotten back to me
Please keep calling. Barry, Ken, or Steve.
LTG : )
Quoted from pins4life33:I disabled the camera in the physical settings and still getting the reset issue on my third ball. Pretty frustrating I have to say, even more frustrating as JJP still hasn’t gotten back to me after I sent them the dump file. The game now has a left flipper issue I have to deal with now too, all I can say is I have a bunch of Sterns in here and they don’t have any issues hardly ever. This machine has been a nightmare right from the start. Too bad as I think it is generally a descent game to play once you tweak the settings a little for gameplay. One frustrated customer, what do you do.
Does it always happen on ball 3? Is it a certain song that causes? Can you replicate the issue? Or does it seem completely random?
It seems to happen often from your posts, so I highly doubt it’s a software issue or we’d hear more about it from the other 7 owners (that was a joke). Unfortunately, sounds like something more serious. Hope you start getting better support and JJP gets you back on track soon. Please keep us updated on what the fix is once it’s determined. good luck!
From what I gather it is random, but it only happens on third ball or at least I have only ever seen it happen on the third ball. I guess I could do a stop watch and see if it resets at a certain point on every ball 3. It isn’t a shot that triggers it thou that is for sure. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen in a pinball machine.
Quoted from Eskaybee:Does it always happen on ball 3? Is it a certain song that causes? Can you replicate the issue? Or does it seem completely random?
It seems to happen often from your posts, so I highly doubt it’s a software issue or we’d hear more about it from the other 7 owners (that was a joke). Unfortunately, sounds like something more serious. Hope you start getting better support and JJP gets you back on track soon. Please keep us updated on what the fix is once it’s determined. good luck!
Man this game...I got my le from flip n out pinball tonight.I never played a game with this many layers.I'm speechless....Everything from here on out will be compared to this.I own Elvira hoh that I love and would never get rid of...but this is the new standard.the Golden age isn't the 90s it's now.I got it thinking maybe it's hype there is not a lot going on in the playfield as far as toys or as a "Hobbit" or "woz" boy I didn't get it til now.Best I've played all around.Oh and I love the plunge unlike some "different"Oh mine had clear washers around the post too and looks great.
Quoted from Kyleman:Man this game...I got my le from flip n out pinball tonight.I never played a game with this many layers.I'm speechless....Everything from here on out will be compared to this.I own Elvira hoh that I love and would never get rid of...but this is the new standard.the Golden age isn't the 90s it's now.I got it thinking maybe it's hype there is not a lot going on in the playfield as far as toys or as a "Hobbit" or "woz" boy I didn't get it til now.Best I've played all around.Oh and I love the plunge unlike some "different"Oh mine had clear washers around the post too and looks great.
Well done , sounds like you will really enjoy it.
The game is on another level , it makes my Hobbit look old .
Quoted from pins4life33:From what I gather it is random, but it only happens on third ball or at least I have only ever seen it happen on the third ball. I guess I could do a stop watch and see if it resets at a certain point on every ball 3. It isn’t a shot that triggers it thou that is for sure. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen in a pinball machine.
The game has detailed logs in the menu system under Reports / Event Logs. It would be easy to determine exactly when the resets are happening, because it would show the power cycle mid game. I doubt it is solely software. I have hundreds of plays on my game and would be seeing some of that I believe if it was only a software issue.
Quoted from Kyleman:Man this game...I got my le from flip n out pinball tonight.I never played a game with this many layers.I'm speechless....Everything from here on out will be compared to this.I own Elvira hoh that I love and would never get rid of...but this is the new standard.the Golden age isn't the 90s it's now.I got it thinking maybe it's hype there is not a lot going on in the playfield as far as toys or as a "Hobbit" or "woz" boy I didn't get it til now.Best I've played all around.Oh and I love the plunge unlike some "different"Oh mine had clear washers around the post too and looks great.
Pinball of the year?
It’s got lots going for it, but it also has weaknesses.
Same for AIQ.
Neither is perfect.
I’ll be voting for AIQ since it has better shots and gameplay/rules imo. Those are the two most important things in a game for me.
GNR is amazing in all the other facets, but falls short in the shots and gameplay/rules compared to AIQ.
RM will get some votes, but I fully expect a close one between GNR and AIQ. AIQ will probably win solely due to more people having played it.
Quoted from chuckwurt:It’s got lots going for it, but it also has weaknesses.
Same for AIQ.
Neither is perfect.
I’ll be voting for AIQ since it has better shots and gameplay/rules imo. Those are the two most important things in a game for me.
GNR is amazing in all the other facets, but falls short in the shots and gameplay/rules compared to AIQ.
RM will get some votes, but I fully expect a close one between GNR and AIQ. AIQ will probably win solely due to more people having played it.
I have played AIQ quite a bit. Like the shots and the rules, but the generic music and callouts drag it down BIG time. It doesn't really build up to to a huge moment in virtually every game like GNR does. Yeah, battling Thanos is cool, but it won't happen often. The games needs more "soul".
Yep. That’s where it’s weak, but for me, the areas it’s weak in are way down my priorities list for game of the year.
Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and what they want in a game .
I have limited space and money , so for me the whole overall package is very important .
I want a theme I like , a deep Keith Johnson ruleset , a few ramps and flippers , great shots , fun layout , call outs , art , theme integration , video and audio assets of the theme and for it to be fun for people who aren't into pinball as much as me .
Then there are the non gameplay features .
A quality cabinet , the high gloss decals , full length rails under the playfield , Bluetooth for headphones , new sensor switches , internet connectivity , free scorbit , awesome animations , the on/off switch in the proper place , the camera that puts you in the concert or takes a selfie with you with Slash , even the arm the LCD swings out on .
Reliability is a big thing for me as well , it has diverters and a spinning disc but they are kinetic , less chance for things to break down .
Has anyone mentioned it has the best light show ever put into a pinball machine 
Game of the year ? More like Game of the 21st century .
To me GNR ticks all the boxes .
Quoted from screaminr:Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and what they want in a game .
I have limited space and money , so for me the whole overall package is very important .
I want a theme I like , a deep Keith Johnson ruleset , a few ramps and flippers , great shots , fun layout , call outs , art , theme integration , video and audio assets of the theme and for it to be fun for people who aren't into pinball as much as me .
Then there are the non gameplay features .
A quality cabinet , the high gloss decals , full length rails under the playfield , Bluetooth for headphones , new sensor switches , internet connectivity , free scorbit , awesome animations , the on/off switch in the proper place , the camera that puts you in the concert or takes a selfie with you with Slash , even the arm the LCD swings out on .
Reliability is a big thing for me as well , it has diverters and a spinning disc but they are kinetic , less chance for things to break down .
Has anyone mentioned it has the best light show ever put into a pinball machine
Game of the year ? More like Game of the 21st century .
To me GNR ticks all the boxes .
Testify brother!!!Totally agree GnR game of the year
Quoted from romulusx:Testify brother!!!Totally agree GnR game of the year
I didn't even get around to mentioning the symbols on the pop bumpers , the drum sticks ramp , the guitar head ball lock , the guitar string habbit trail , the cat walks , the awesome sculps , the guitar pick spinners that glow all different colours , piano keys that make different sounds as you roll over them , the articulating spotlights , the album covers on the spinning disc , the second LCD which shows actual video from the concert .
Talk about a world under glass .
Quoted from screaminr:I didn't even get around to mentioning the symbols on the pop bumpers , the drum sticks ramp , the guitar head ball lock , the guitar string habbit trail , the cat walks , the awesome sculps , the guitar pick spinners that glow all different colours , piano keys that make different sounds as you roll over them , the articulating spotlights , the album covers on the spinning disc , the second LCD which shows actual video from the concert .
Talk about a world under glass .
Now your preaching to the choir brother !
Quoted from screaminr:Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and what they want in a game .
I have limited space and money , so for me the whole overall package is very important .
I want a theme I like , a deep Keith Johnson ruleset , a few ramps and flippers , great shots , fun layout , call outs , art , theme integration , video and audio assets of the theme and for it to be fun for people who aren't into pinball as much as me .
Then there are the non gameplay features .
A quality cabinet , the high gloss decals , full length rails under the playfield , Bluetooth for headphones , new sensor switches , internet connectivity , free scorbit , awesome animations , the on/off switch in the proper place , the camera that puts you in the concert or takes a selfie with you with Slash , even the arm the LCD swings out on .
Reliability is a big thing for me as well , it has diverters and a spinning disc but they are kinetic , less chance for things to break down .
Has anyone mentioned it has the best light show ever put into a pinball machine
Game of the year ? More like Game of the 21st century .
To me GNR ticks all the boxes .
Quoted from screaminr:I didn't even get around to mentioning the symbols on the pop bumpers , the drum sticks ramp , the guitar head ball lock , the guitar string habbit trail , the cat walks , the awesome sculps , the guitar pick spinners that glow all different colours , piano keys that make different sounds as you roll over them , the articulating spotlights , the album covers on the spinning disc , the second LCD which shows actual video from the concert .
Talk about a world under glass .
You know when you put it that way.....
Quoted from cybevenom:could you show some pics of the washers on the posts. Mine is set to arrive in january and if those washer help with the pooling i am quite ok with it if it doesnt jumps out that much.
The transparent washers are only on sling posts. Throughout the playfield there are metallic washers. Not sure if these were in the first run or not. Again nothing obtrusive and looks good enough for me.C54ABEC1-78B7-4C8C-8391-F46A30A1733A (resized).jpeg
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The clear definitely looks better.
While gnr definitely deserves game of the year, I won’t be surprised if avengers takes it. Simply put, the stern army is so big, and there are flat out way more avengers out for people to play. It’s a tough hurdle to overcome. If by some chance gnr actually wins, imo it is a real testament of just how awesome this game is.
Quoted from konghusker:While gnr definitely deserves game of the year, I won’t be surprised if avengers takes it. Simply put, the stern army is so big, and there are flat out way more avengers out for people to play. It’s a tough hurdle to overcome. If by some chance gnr actually wins, imo it is a real testament of just how awesome this game is.
Agreed. Sadly thats why the voting really doesn't mean much. Same theory with the Pinside top 100. 100 ish GnR owners vs Thousands of Avengers owners is likely not going to go in JJP's favor. And luckily it really doesn't matter.
Quoted from Yelobird:Agreed. Sadly thats why the voting really doesn't mean much. Same theory with the Pinside top 100. 100 ish GnR owners vs Thousands of Avengers owners is likely not going to go in JJP's favor. And luckily it really doesn't matter.
The Twippy's are only important to TWIP & "The Winners" (read Kaneda)
However, the way voting changed this year will definitely skew the results, everyone will get a participation trophy and businesses are favored over home brewers. It has gone from a yawn to a WGAF.
Quoted from konghusker:While gnr definitely deserves game of the year, I won’t be surprised if avengers takes it. Simply put, the stern army is so big, and there are flat out way more avengers out for people to play. It’s a tough hurdle to overcome. If by some chance gnr actually wins, imo it is a real testament of just how awesome this game is.
Avengers won’t. I would be shocked. Really no comparison.
Quoted from Medic:The transparent washers are only on sling posts. Throughout the playfield there are metallic washers. Not sure if these were in the first run or not. Again nothing obtrusive and looks good enough for me.[quoted image]
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Are they hard plastic or do they have some flex to them? Any spares included in the box
Tilburg
Quoted from Medic:The transparent washers are only on sling posts. Throughout the playfield there are metallic washers. Not sure if these were in the first run or not. Again nothing obtrusive and looks good enough for me.[quoted image]
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Thanks for the photo's now i got a good idea of what it's like and nothing disturbing to look at in my opinion.
Quoted from Skyemont:Avengers won’t. I would be shocked. Really no comparison.
There’s just too many owners for it not to win.
My personal opinion on game of the year (and I’ve played all 4):
GNR > R&M > Hotwheels > ....................AIQ.
Quoted from Eskaybee:There’s just too many owners for it not to win.
My personal opinion on game of the year (and I’ve played all 4):
GNR > R&M > Hotwheels > ....................AIQ.
So are you saying GnR is best?
Quoted from romulusx:So are you saying GnR is best?
Of those 4 pins, yes. R&M is really close, what a cool game!
Quoted from Eskaybee:Of those 4 pins, yes. R&M is really close, what a cool game!
That’s what I thought but the dots threw me a bit and I peak at your pin collection.Thanks for being real instead of a fan boy.I have 2 JJP’s but I can easily say I enjoyed DP and JP 2
Quoted from Eskaybee:Of those 4 pins, yes. R&M is really close, what a cool game!
Rick and Morty is like JP2 for me. Good game to play and shoot, but the repetitive callouts do my head in and i wouldn't have them in the house.
Shoot the left ramp and get to the garage. Fuck
Quoted from Eskaybee:There’s just too many owners for it not to win.
My personal opinion on game of the year (and I’ve played all 4):
GNR > R&M > Hotwheels > ....................AIQ.
Have you played Celts?
MakeThatAllFivePunkin
Quoted from romulusx:That’s what I thought but the dots threw me a bit and I peak at your pin collection.Thanks for being real instead of a fan boy.I have 2 JJP’s but I can easily say I enjoyed DP and JP 2
No bias from me, absolutely none whatsoever.....oh, except I may have a GNR soon 
Quoted from punkin:Have you played Celts?
MakeThatAllFivePunkin
No. Has anyone in America?
Quoted from punkin:Rick and Morty is like JP2 for me. Good game to play and shoot, but the repetitive callouts do my head in and i wouldn't have them in the house.
Shoot the left ramp and get to the garage. Fuck
One shot games get old quick!I loved Bride Of Pinbot but after owning for a while I’m ready to sell her.
Quoted from Eskaybee:No bias from me, absolutely none whatsoever.....oh, except I may have a GNR soon
No. Has anyone in America?
NOT disputing your vote just asking. You are ready to call it Game Of the Year yet you still don't OWN it?? I have played many titles over the year one dollar at a time and thought they were Must have incredible.....Till I bought one. lol
Quoted from chuckwurt:It’s got lots going for it, but it also has weaknesses.
Same for AIQ.
Neither is perfect.
I’ll be voting for AIQ since it has better shots and gameplay/rules imo. Those are the two most important things in a game for me.
GNR is amazing in all the other facets, but falls short in the shots and gameplay/rules compared to AIQ.
RM will get some votes, but I fully expect a close one between GNR and AIQ. AIQ will probably win solely due to more people having played it.
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