Thanks. I've pull and reconnected all of the USB connectors. No luck.

Edit: Actually, its not that board. Its the (ACC) board. If I disconnect the usb going to the board with all of the ethernet cables, I get a second error.

The PFC board contains two boards in one - the LED board and the ACC board. So if the normal error (with the cable connected) is just the ACC board, then there's likely some issue on the board itself, as it sounds like USB data is getting to the other half of the board just fine.

There are two status LEDs on that board that blink to tell you what is going on with each half. Slow blink means the board is powered up but not getting data over the USB. Fast blink means it's getting data. If you have one slow and one fast (which is what it sounds like you'll find) then somehow USB data is getting to the board but not getting to both parts of it. If you have one fast and one always ON or OFF, then similarly, one side of the board is dead. Maybe time for a new board, or get JJP to repair that one? In any event, JJP support is the first place to contact.

Got it. OK. Will check on what is blinking but I will reach out to JJP as it sounds like a new board will be the solution. May first try a new USB cable just in case.

Being able to tell them what the blinky lights are doing will help them too, and yeah probably the first question will be "have you tried a new USB cable?" so those would both be good things to do before calling.

Yup, share away. I'm not in the beta group thread

Confirmed the board needs to be replaced. $364!!! That’s almost as much as the driver board.

Has anyone else noticed when playing November Rain that the sounds for hitting shots is constantly interrupting the song? Obviously the objective is to hit a shot load of switches but every time I make a shot the award noise constantly drowns out the song to the point of being annoying/distracting. This certainly wasn’t the case before I switched over to the Beta code, so would be curious to hear if this is happening in the new official 3.0 code?

on b46 and coincidentally I just played November rain last night and didn't notice a issue.
Does it only do it on that song or all songs?
Go in and check your EQ maybe switch to flat and save with the flat setting.

Yes - This happens on mine (b45) I reported it in the beta discussion, nothing happened - it ruins the song for me

Again I guess a clarifying question is it's only this song for you? No other songs have this issue when hitting shots?

Downloading 3.01 now....

Me too, I missed the boat on 3.0.

I went and flipped to the song and recorded almost 4 minutes of the sound... Is this what your November rain sounds like when you play?

And apparently I missed b47.

Correct, only November Rain seems to have this issue. Glad to hear I’m not crazy!

Yep, that’s what mine sounds like as well. Whatever that cymbal crash/guitar type sound is just interrupting the song the entire time.

Note to self. Wait for 3.02 to fix November Rain. Meanwhile, skip that song.

My game came with a pinwoofer system. When the music is tame, for example during the intros of songs like My Michelle, I get a lot of cracking sounds from the back box speakers. I googled it and seems common for pinwoofer and JJP perhaps? Most of the time it’s great. But just during these quiet song sections.

Has anyone tried this fix pictured?

Thanks!

Richard

Site link:

https://pinwoofer.com/blog/pinwoofer-jjp-backbox-static-noise-detection-and-possible-fix/

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Yes I did that years ago. It helped. It's sensitive and you don't adjust much if I recall.

Ok! So not the full 45 degrees?

Recalled that after tweaking the board, Dan had me remove it completely... See later post from him about the expander board delete.. this is the way.

Has anybody asked in the beta telegram thread if JJP is working on a Scorbit replacement?

Anything non-beta related is like fight club at JJP.

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Hey guys, if you have the GT amplifier with the expander board that's pictured above, please perform the expander board delete:
https://pinwoofer.com/content/PW-GT-JJP-Expander-Board-Delete-Instructions.pdf

It's quick and easy.

We've been able to do this delete after we started supplying tweeters at the start of GNR.

Thanks,

Dan

Cool! Will do tonight!
Does that help with the crackling during some songs?

Thanks!
Richard

I have same problem with November Rain on 3.0

I expect so, but let's find out.

GNR started with numerous leveling issues. For example, some tracks louder than others, jukebox having lower quality compared to the same in-game song, slash solo having massive distortion, etc. Much of this has been improved over time and our current offering no longer employs the expander board. You'll have to spend some time working through what sounds best to your ear.

The good news, I can't imagine owning GNR and not having a PinWoofer in it regardless of the amplifier version.

Hope this helps.

Have a great day guys!

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I know I stink in pinball..but after installing new update I am still seeing low scores even with long gameplay...are we suppose to change any settings in game after update ?

If you stink at pinball, just set # balls to 9. Should see triple the score

Seriously though, set your ball count to five and start messing with settings so you can get further into the game. There are a ton of settings you can play with to allow yourself to get to the end of the game. You can always change them back to factory anytime you like.

I have most of my games set on five balls. Not as much for myself (I consider myself average at best), but for when people come over and play.

Scoop rejections getting you down?

So the JJP GNR scoop is pretty sensitive to a dead on perfect shot in order for the scoop to keep the ball without rejecting it's bad enough that the hole itself is compromised in size to make it that much more of a challenge but some people may find that after doing certain fixes such as Pin Monks fans, the Precision flippers, upgraded rubber such as Titan competition, and the io board replacement or cap placement... You may find your flippers performing way over what the game was designed for making that scoop shot all that more elusive or even downright impossible.

I took the glass off the other day and decided to really get down to the nuts and bolts of it to try to figure out a way to make this game a little bit more approachable not cheating but more consistent in the scoop acceptance rate versus rejection.

I started with the easiest which was actually the scoop itself I had a mangled version from JJP so I decided to go ahead and replace both the flanged hole covering protection and the inner ring protector.

Also replace the blue rubber nibs.

My alignment for my scoop is perfect and hits exactly where it should on the left flipper..

So how does that fix it... Well let's just say with the glass off hitting dead on the shots most were rejected... Mind you I'm running all of the options above in terms of fixes that I mentioned, and each one still a necessity to exist fans for the cooling of the coils, Precision as they look badass and add to the shots stability for the overall playfield, and IO board simply because it makes the game snappier like it should have been from the get-go... so the next step is to dial down the flipper power... I did so and brought the left one down as much as 18 to 19 and the right down to 19 or 20... My acceptance rate went up slightly but I was still getting a very very strange spin on the ball which was causing it to bounce completely out of the scoop when filmed in slow motion. The other side benefit was the other shots up the left ramp and the orbits were all now makeable and less prone to wild balls flying all around from the io board increase performance.

I then lined the front and back of the scoop hole with three pieces of mylar stacked on each other and cut to a small strip using tweezers I placed the three-ply mylar strip in the back and front of the actual hole outlining... The purpose of this is to deaden the ball and to prevent the rattle back and forth you're only given about a 5 to 7 mm clearance on both sides when the ball is in it so any kind of metal on metal rattling will surely cause that ball to rattle out of the hole before settling in...

Okay now we're getting somewhere less rattle and probably a 30 to 50% increase in acceptance rates...

Still getting a weird spin though from the flipper rubber most likely... Which I can only account to a combination of using the Precision flippers with Titan rubbers so back to standard we go when in doubt always revert back to how the game was designed... I love my Titans but sometimes you just have to go to what the game was designed for... Put some Red rubber on and magically the ball takes less of a hop first off down the rails so less flipper hop noticeably and now I'm not getting the strange spinning...

I have to say now I'm at about an 80 to 85% acceptance rate for that hole which I think is a perfect combination not a gimme every time still required some skill but not the frustrating rejection rate that I was up to...

So in all hope this helps some people just methodical dialing in of this scoop region and what worked for me

Hope it helps you.

Another great post.
I have that problem where the ball gets substantially more difficult to get in the scoop when applause is lit. Any fixes for that?

I have the same issue. It seems that when it is really important to get the scoop shot, the damn scoop gets smaller and the side drains get bigger. Would love to see JJP get on it and fix that too!

I know it... I'm tempted to get some calipers, take the glass off and do some sanity testing... Not sure how they did this but I'm convinced it's smaller when applause is lit.

To quote someone..."Play better!!!"

Am I a bad pinball owner if both my blue rubber nibs on the scoop are broken off and I don't care?
I've got them but don't want to do the work.. I'll just replace the balls if they get too dinged up and keep going like this.
Can't someone come up with something like slip on cushion covers that will push over the metal sides tightly instead of having to sandwich the nibs?
Seems like a better aftermarket solution could be designed to offer the same result but easily replaced.

It’s 30-45 minutes of work to replace the blue nubs. Plenty of instructions and videos to follow.
I actually thought it wasn’t bad at all and kinda fun to do… but, that’s just me.

You can actually replace them without removing any major playfield parts. It took me about 20 minutes one day. There's a YouTube video of how to do it. Super easy.

Edit: here's the link. I've done this, it's easy and works

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Thanks for sharing this! I haven't had to replace mine, but this is great to know.

I'd suggest pushing a small rag into that hole to keep the nut from falling in (as happened in the video).

Do you collect it by hitting the scoop? I only played the old code for one day. I remember getting the option “collect jackpot or add a ball” during the song.

I didn’t get that option since the new code. Maybe I just didn’t hit the scoop at the right time!?

Any change there? I upgraded from my old code directly to 3.0 and 3.1 I’m sure that was fine.

Richard

Richard

Yeah that's sevenrites video.
After he made that video he posted the fact that those wings sit too close to the art on the playfield and it'll put a tear in there once you bend them back. I looked at this way back when this video come out and the back side of mine will dig into the art if I try to do this so this is a use at your own risk.
If you are lucky enough that those can swing out without damaging your playfield then good for you but mine aren't like that and I don't see any way to get around it

You can collect the jackpot during the song if you are on your last ball in song multiball and you qualify the scoop to turn green. If you shoot it in the scoop you get the option to choose to continue and add a ball to your multiball and raise the jackpot some more (pressing both flipper buttons) or to cash out the jackpot by tapping the lockdown button. If you have completed all the 9 letters on the outlane (AMP, GNR and JAM) you also light and extra ball if you cash out the jackpot before the song ends. Choices, choices........

Or you make it through the song until the last 8 seconds (I think) of the song and you'll hear the call out "applause jackpot is ready" and applause jackpot lights up no matter how many balls you have on the playfield and the scoop shrinks to half its size, just kidding but you'll see what I mean, but if you can make the ball in scoop when it's lit green in those eight seconds then you collect, if you do or don't and you did well you get an encore and get to play The next song on that album and at the same level you were at before. If you didn't do well then it's over and you don't collect the jackpot. Play better.
I think I explained that right.

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Did the Cap switch yesterday. When you have someone with the right tools, it is just a 15 minute job. So installed 2 Nichicon 6800uF bad boys. 3d printed the base. Definitely an improvement on the flippers. The slings and pops, I don not know, maybe need to adjust the settings there.
But shots are fast and all can be made easliy now. Is it a total board upgrade worth....I do not know. But this was the cheap route for me and worked. If you do not have friend with tools or are scared to do this, and I do not blame you, then the Herculase option will be great, I hear good result there.
Now the big question, did my game improve......nah still the biggest looser with missed jackpot.......

Slings are not affected, they are on a different line. I think the pops are too. Flippers and magnets have the big improvements.

If anyone in the Columbus area needs help I can do it for free if you supply the caps. I've got all the tools and a 3d printer.

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Nice Score, I’ll be back