No way. From what I’m told, CE’s will not be built til December.

2021 is when CEs ship from what I hear.

Maybe reach out to pinball_keefer ?

LTG : )

First I’ve heard of this. Was there a common denominator when it happened?

Camera disabling causes it - bug

No. We didn’t disable the camera though. Possibly it was that.

Hitting both flippers will cancel at least half of the animation

Thanks. Wasn't sure since this one is gonna be my first JJP. What an entry it is gonna be. Hope to get mine before christmas so the family will be in awe when we celebrate here.

Bought this game and waiting for it. Juts went through the whole guns album collection which I haven’t done in years. They are fucking awesome, can’t wait to get this thing in my house.

My Album spinner assembly finally fell apart today after 200 plays.

Yelobird Thanks for the posting the JJP fix info on this! Pulled up your post and all good now.
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For the first time Im seeing...Here are a few more shots of the CE that aren’t just the actual promo trailer

It is an amazing Promo in my POV. Thanks for posting this.

I Just saw that it is not JJP #001 ... indeed a very beautiful machine, I’ll take it!
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Thanks for putting a link here for this video. It was region locked when i wanted to see it so i could not.
if you look closely when pausing during gameplay you will see that the playfield also is not an CE playfield as the Apetite for Destruction art is not on there. It is an LE playfield in an CE cabinet. During some interview Eric said that this was his development game that was shipped from his house to the studio for the recording for this advertising video.

You sir are the Man! I stayed focused on collecting members then loading up 6 balls in lock before starting a song and my scores took off! Granted this technique (for me) is frustrating as its a bit of a risk/reward gamble and often I would stay the coarse trying to lock just One more ball and drain lol. Thanks for the advice!

Now with that said I have to ask (as an acknowledged crappy player) is it just me or is hitting that virtually 5" wide left ramp (JK) almost impossible? Why am I having such a hard time on that one. They couldn't have made that ramp Any dam wider!!! Since I'm complaining....... Is it me or do the left and right outlanes on this game have some type of Vacuum or vortex that Pulls the balls away?????? lol. Loving this game. I Sincerely hope these start rolling out to the masses for all to enjoy over the holiday. Truly is an amazing and addictive game.

I am an operator I prefer games not to last 5+ minutes on average and the game gives out ball saver awards like candy

No I am saying that like in deadpool where you can cancel a battle to build your team ups i'd like a way to cancel a song start to build song values.

The game has been in operation for 4 days

5 minutes 22 seconds on average plus with 212 plays the rubbers are already breaking. This is terrible quality We noticed that the flipper rubbers are wico did someone raid a 20 year old warehouse?
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That looks like normal wear for soft red rubber

We get 3000 - 5000 plays on red rubbers. We had received a bad batch from Marco Specialties recently which we are using on our original black knight. Not sure if these rubbers came from that; also those clear slings are already tearing.

wow, that's pretty good mileage...my Jurassic Park Stern reds and the replacements i got from PB life and Marco all lasted about 100 games before coming apart, I just switched to black rubbers and called it a day, On GnR I'll probably use red Titans though

Although the flippers on JP are slung low and I only got the wear at the tips like you're showing...Not sure, maybe GnR is the same thing with lower bats causing wear on the tips?

You'll probably want to replace the slings as well or maybe replace all the rubbers and not worry about them for a while

I suggest stepping up the size a 1/4” to a 1/2” for the sling when replacing. It will help the silicone last longer. And stay on rotating them as well so you won’t have to replace them right away.

I'd like to get mirror blades for my incoming GNR. Who sells them?

Wow , it incorporates speakers , what will they think of next

Man , those rubbers are rubbish .
It's like Rolls-Royce putting the cheapest tyres they can find on their cars .

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Silicone wears quick on high impact areas. I would put a super band ring on that post. Beware though. Once it’s on its not coming off unless you cut it off.

Cointaker

All of the silicone rubber rings are garbage. I’ll try a Titan set and see what happens. Anyone have a size / quantity list?

For flipper rubber I switched to Superbands after the first week. No wear and they don’t get as dirty. I play a lot! Not super happy with the dead bounces on Superbands in this game for some reason. It’s almost like it “deadens” the ball too much and it does not hop over to the other flipper like you expect. Other games aren’t as bad. May try Titan again.

They should be fine everywhere but slings and any posts that get hammered. For the slings get a few different sizes. Bigger the better. If you have to stretch them a lot to fit, they are gonna break in no time.

There are others that I had to rotate or they would be broken by now.

I've already had to replace my slings as well at about 150 games. I used the 2 replacements that were included in the goodie bag. When they wear out, I'll swap over to Titans. I keep tons of Titan on hand. Flippers were changed to Titan within the first week.

JJP should include a complete set of spare rubbers (at least high impact areas and slings) to their GNR goodie bag. Rubbers gong to rub and a spare set to replace existing ones when they’re gone is a win for everybody. It would be the first useful thing I’ve pulled from a goodie bag, other than an occasional game manual.

Are the JJP rings Titan?

Unfortunatly for everyone, JJP likes to mix and match rings from different manufacturers. They buy from us here at Titan, pinball life and suzo-happ. They don't like silicone flipper so those would be the suzo rubber. The clear rings could be a mix of ours and PBL. Our rings say "TITAN" on them. I believe pinball life's say "PL" on them.

If anyone gets their mirror blades on, I'd like a video of the game play. We'll need to decide between black and regular mirrors for this one.

The bad ones seem to be consistently Pinball Life.

Back hand it... shooting from the right can lead to risky ricochets. Backhand is quiet safe and reliable.. so try to get back to left flipper.

100 games? That's terrible. On location that wouldn't last one day. No, that is not 'normal for red rubber'. A game at an extended hours weekend show can get over 1000 plays. Tournament games over a several day event will get 600+. You don't see people changing all the rubber 5 times mid-tournament on game

Good luck getting it to the upper playfield on stock flipper settings though. Haha

Stock flipper rubber is certainly crapola.
Since we are on the subject, curious if folks are considering changing ring colors on your game? Thinking I’ll stick to translucent based on the light shows but open to ideas.

We didn't have a problem, but I admit we didn't settle on the backhand as the safer shot until after we moved the flipper settings up one notch.

I also think the clarity and ball path/stuff under the ramp makes the ramp harder to see/discern in your peripheral vision so it impacts your aiming. The ramp entrance seems to 'disappear' from my observations. Not sure exactly what is different to pin it on.. but it's hard to see!

Paint coming up or reflection?

Very interesting. Many of us wondered why such premium games could not come with better rubber. Or at least upsell something to us. Watching how the flipper rubber flops all over in the slow motion video had me confused; why they would want that kind of response. Are they maybe just trying to save a few bucks? Or do they actually like the rubber and or silicone response?

Will give that a try thanks. Can’t say I’ve had any luck back handing that that shot unless simply to loop the ramp vs going for the lock but I will try dialing up the power. Thanks.

I will say that after owning all the JJP LE games I can safely say their flipper rubber is crap....I've come to the realization that u have to change them out day 1

man I can't wait for an epic stage mod for the SE. The possibilities are really endless there.

Also, is there any way to confirm that the hot rails on the SE are being gimped by hardware vs. code? Lastly, does the lighted guitar have RGB/animated lightning possibilities to be enhanced via code?

Not code ..the rails are just white lights.

They shouldn’t wear that quickly regardless. I have games that have 1000s of play with silicone that don’t show that kind of wear. To expect an operator to check a game every few days for rubber wear is unrealistic. What if this game is on a location? If the SE is supposed to be more operator focused this isn’t a step in the right direction

I agree. Just trying to help.

I appreciate your responses but you clearly have not operated a high volume route or arcade. Your suggestions are not realistic.