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Quoted from screaminr:It gets better than that
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Just ridiculous, people believe that putting stupid prices on things makes them more desirable , or are seeing $$ signs in there eyes, it’s everything thou , old cars and even car parts have sky rocketed …
if anyone does stumble across a reasonable priced KISS premium in OZ please let me know, that would be much appreciated .
Cheers again everyone
Quoted from Rolls-Royce:…I’m sorry to ask you Sako, but I’m completely lost here……
I had no idea about a German version, is there a difference compared with the 600 Limited Editions made or what? …
Your plate and signed certificate it’s different or same as LE’s but just with a "60" or how’s that?
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https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-german-logo/
I'd be interested to see the modified translite. Did they get a special topper in Germany, too?
Quoted from screaminr:It gets better than that
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Ha ha.. Liar too. There are 5 KISSLEs in Aus from Kiss Army. That price is a joke.
Quoted from PinMonk:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-german-logo/
I'd be interested to see the modified translite. Did they get a special topper in Germany, too?
Very interesting, I had no idea at all about that, and It feels great to learn about it after 4 decades … thanks PinMonk, I appreciate this a lot brother.
Quoted from LTG:Usually German versions don't use the lightening bolt "SS's" but rounded SS's.
LTG : )
Thank you Lloyd, after your message I googled and found a few pics from a classic Bally with the round SS’s… impressive to be honest, I never catch that before.
Menden (sauerland)
Quoted from PinMonk:https://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-german-logo/
I'd be interested to see the modified translite. Did they get a special topper in Germany, too?
playfield and backglass are completely changed for german market with normal "SS" by Stern.
The numbers of pins was limited to I guess around 50.
The offic. topper (I love it) was never offic. sold over german distributors.
The original pins with the "SS" Kiss brand incl. topper were imported via Austrian Stern distributors (they don´t have this political restrictions)
Quoted from PinMonk:If you look in the topic index at the top of any page in this thread (click Keypost Summary to put them in order), there are links to the posts with details in the TECH:Lighting section. The TECH:Mod section has links to new brackets you can print if you have a 3D printer.
thank you, this was helpeful
Has anyone else got the Freddie’s mix colour plastic protectors for their game … definitely worth it.
Honestly the pic doesn’t do it any justice, they really change the whole atmosphere of the
game…..
Also Just wondering has any changed the top “backstage” plastic, to one thats completely clear,
Without “backstage” written on it., as I don’t want to wreck the original one….
For me I find it annoying as it blocks your view..
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Honestly the pic doesn’t do it any justice, they really change the whole atmosphere of the
game…..
Also Just wondering has any changed the top “backstage” plastic, to one thats completely clear,
Without “backstage” written on it., as I don’t want to wreck the original one….
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have a link for these?
Quoted from ls1chris:have a link for these?
http://www.shop.freddys-pinball-paradise.de/e.php?we=1&q=3307311633
I just got my GNR and my PinWoofer arrived as well as my hyperlights. Looking to install both this weekend and supper stoked to see what both add to the game! With these plastics, how painful was it to install all of them? Did you have to remove ramps ect? How long did the entire install take. THese are very interesting to me as they do look fantastic in the pick on thier website.
Quoted from ls1chris:Thanks I will order after work!
pls check also the recommendations on longer srews if needed.
Ask Fabian at Freddy, he is the expert.
Quoted from brooklynknight:I just got my GNR and my PinWoofer arrived as well as my hyperlights. Looking to install both this weekend and supper stoked to see what both add to the game! With these plastics, how painful was it to install all of them? Did you have to remove ramps ect? How long did the entire install take. THese are very interesting to me as they do look fantastic in the pick on thier website.
I installed majority of mine pretty easy, but you do need to remove the bass ramp and upper playfield, it really wasn’t that hard,
Just as a safe guard, before removing I took a video of all around the upper playfield as a reference point just in case I got stuck..
All the others were pretty straight forward, upper playfield took me a few hours as I never did it before and was taking it slow and easy
So I don’t stuff anything up… but in saying that I forgot to tighten some screws up, once I put it back together, and then being an expert it took me like 10 minutes to pull apart and tighten the screws.
You’ll love ‘em, honestly so hard to capture that wow factor in photos , they are 100 x better once you see them in person,
Tilburg
Quoted from replacement:I have a GNR limited i think it is number 658 'ish. Does it update code automatically? because it is my understanding it is on the household WiFi. Pretty much a pinball rookie here. Thanks for the help.
Never automatic...
If it's configured on your Wi-Fi network and online it checks for updates on boot up and you'll get an indication that says software update available in the upper left of the big screen.
If you want to manually check for an update, or perform the update you have to go in the diagnostics menu and manually choose the software update.
Quick question on Invisiglass and all the other non-glare glass. Is it treated on both sides, or just the side with the insignia? I'm guessing it's both sides, but just figured I'd ask. Thanks !
Annan
Quoted from Rolls-Royce:…I’m sorry to ask you Sako, but I’m completely lost here……
I had no idea about a German version, is there a difference compared with the 600 Limited Editions made or what? …
Your plate and signed certificate it’s different or same as LE’s but just with a "60" or how’s that?
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Hey mate,
I’m not at home at moment to take other photos but yeah, the plaque is 03 of 60.
The mirror back glass, cab art is different and the playfield indicating Kiss is different.
I changed the dip switches from Germany to UK and it then has the DMD with the classic Kiss SS-Runen which is outlawed in Germany hence why Stern did a different run.
Gene Simmons did the SS-Runen for Kiss band as a kind of fuck you to Hitler, being Jewish and his mother survived 3 concentration camps.
This is still an official Kiss logo, contrary to what people said about this version of the pin as it’s what the band use on all their IP in Germany.
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Quoted from Sako-TRG:Hey mate,
I’m not at home at moment to take other photos but yeah, the plaque is 03 of 60.
The mirror back glass, cab art is different and the playfield indicating Kiss is different.
I changed the dip switches from Germany to UK and it then has the DMD with the classic Kiss SS-Runen which is outlawed in Germany hence why Stern did a different run.
Gene Simmons did the SS-Runen for Kiss band as a kind of fuck you to Hitler, being Jewish and his mother survived 3 concentration camps.
This is still an official Kiss logo, contrary to what people said about this version of the pin as it’s what the band use on all their IP in Germany.
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Sako thank you! Simply amazing, you’re very lucky and privileged to have that game in your hands. I appreciate your message, those pics that you posted are two thumbs way up mate! In my personal opinion I think that those 60 Pinballs are the KISS truly and holy grail… Thanks for sharing!
Quoted from cybevenom:Wonder what the only one in the world signed by the band would do. Not that i am even thinking about selling mine.
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I was able to get Duff to sign mine last year and he gave us a tour of his studio. He is really nice and down to earth. It’s so awesome that you got the whole band to sign yours! I’m still crossing my fingers that I’ll be able to get the others to sign mine as well. I might have an opportunity later this year, but I’m not holding my breath. I won’t be selling mine either.
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Quoted from Sako-TRG:Anyone got the red pulsing robot eye
How you find it, is it reliable?
Looks very sweet, hate that crazy blinking yellow start button.
I love the way the robot eye looks on the LE. Haven't had any issues with it, works like it should.
Quoted from Sako-TRG:Anyone got the red pulsing robot eye
How you find it, is it reliable?
Looks very sweet, hate that crazy blinking yellow start button.
Very reliable. Cool mod. Get the controller.
https://superskillshot.com/products/gus-n-roses-start-button
Quoted from Dobler:I was able to get Duff to sign mine last year and he gave us a tour of his studio. He is really nice and down to earth. It’s so awesome that you got the whole band to sign yours! I’m still crossing my fingers that I’ll be able to get the others to sign mine as well. I might have an opportunity later this year, but I’m not holding my breath. I won’t be selling mine either.
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Yeah, Still can't believe Eric arranged that with Slash for me and Slash getting Duff and Axl to sign as well was epic. Must have accumulated some big karma points i was not aware off.
Quoted from Sako-TRG:Anyone got the red pulsing robot eye
How you find it, is it reliable?
Looks very sweet, hate that crazy blinking yellow start button.
I have got it on mine. I like how it suits the coloring of the game on mine. That yellow one was really sticking out.
Just a FYI, hyperlights are absolutely amazing and I mean amazing, such a well worth upgrade and use of $$. I also installed pinwoofer ko amp and yet another game changer the sound is incredible. If anyone is on the fence with anyone them don't be!!!!!
Quoted from brooklynknight:Just a FYI, hyperlights are absolutely amazing and I mean amazing, such a well worth upgrade and use of $$. I also installed pinwoofer ko amp and yet another game changer the sound is incredible. If anyone is on the fence with anyone them don't be!!!!!
Well done. Enjoy your ”new” game!
For anyone that wants to go to the next level.. install pin stadiums neo concert editions... I happen to have a set on the market deeply discounted.
Compare the cost savings of my first gen to the new Atoms..
Here's the new ATOMS if you'd rather have the latest like me....
Quoted from Vespula:Well done. Enjoy your ”new” game!
For anyone that wants to go to the next level.. install pin stadiums neo concert editions... I happen to have a set on the market deeply discounted.This is a solid price. I have the Neos still and they’re awesome. I’d consider the upgrade but spending another $650 is really hard to justify. Would love to hear your thoughts on the difference once you’ve had some time to compare the two.
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Quoted from atg1469:This is a solid price. I have the Neos still and they’re awesome. I’d consider the upgrade but spending another $650 is really hard to justify. Would love to hear your thoughts on the difference once you’ve had some time to compare the two.
Surprisingly no one seems to really be interested at that price... Someone that understands like you will come by eventually. They are amazing, and cost for atom nets out to 400 when I sell my Neo 1st gen.
I'll give a full comparison report later
Quoted from Vespula:Surprisingly no one seems to really be interested at that price... Someone that understands like you will come by eventually. They are amazing, and cost for atom nets out to 400 when I sell my Neo 1st gen.
I'll give a full comparison report later
Would you be willing to ship to Canada the land of maple syrups?
After roughly 1800 games, I suddenly have a whole bunch of switches that have just stopped working. The ones I've found so far are 'Left Sling Hi', 'Left Sling Low', 'Left Outlane', 'Left Inlane Left', 'Left Inlane Right', and 'Left Ramp Right Target' ... all of which are in the "Green/Orange" column of the Matrix, however the first switch in that column ("Left Ramp Left Target") seems to work fine. it's just everything under it in the list that has stopped.
Another odd thing that I've noticed is that even with the coin door open, the coils for both the left and right sling both function in the coil test. The interlock disables all other coils in the game except for the light and right slings.
I'm very new to pinball ownership and really don't know where to start with this issue. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this behavior?
Quoted from etr104:After roughly 1800 games, I suddenly have a whole bunch of switches that have just stopped working. The ones I've found so far are 'Left Sling Hi', 'Left Sling Low', 'Left Outlane', 'Left Inlane Left', 'Left Inlane Right', and 'Left Ramp Right Target' ... all of which are in the "Green/Orange" column of the Matrix, however the first switch in that column ("Left Ramp Left Target") seems to work fine. it's just everything under it in the list that has stopped.
Another odd thing that I've noticed is that even with the coin door open, the coils for both the left and right sling both function in the coil test. The interlock disables all other coils in the game except for the light and right slings.
I'm very new to pinball ownership and really don't know where to start with this issue. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this behavior?
The wire from Left Ramp Left Target switch has likely broken off, probably at the next switch. They're daisy chained together. Look where they stop working and that's where the broken wire likely is. Find the wire, resolder (with the power OFF) and you should be back in business.
Quoted from Enron64:Would you be willing to ship to Canada the land of maple syrups?
.. and RUSH. 
Sure, plus shipping, I'll have to get it packed up and can calculate the shipping. Send me a pm with your address.
Quoted from PinMonk:The wire from Left Ramp Left Target switch has likely broken off, probably at the next switch. They're daisy chained together. Look where they stop working and that's where the broken wire likely is. Find the wire, resolder (with the power OFF) and you should be back in business.
Appreciate the reply .. I'll visually inspect underneath the Left Ramp targets and go from there. At least I have a starting point. Thank you very much!
Quoted from romulusx:When I was looking at getting a GnR part of my decision was a gamble that they would update code.
I knew it was a gamble but the pin is so fucking cool and beautiful I couldn’t resist any longer.
I traded my 5 year old DI for it.
I’m happy with deal because I had played out on DI?
Keefer please finish code on GnR
you know it needs it and I’m sure it keeps you awake at night so just do it!!!!
Code support from JJP has sadly been abysmal over the past few years, I don't know what's going on. I'm sure JJP staff are tired of reading these types of comments but they were the ones that set the persistent of JJP games receiving deep code support with games like WOZ, Hobbit, and Dialed In. It's been 18 months since GNR received it's last code update. That's how the best selling JJP game of all time is treated it? Again I don't understand it. There's a reason so many GNR's are listed on the marketplace and lack of code support is the number one contributor IMO.
Code cannot be in beta forever either, that's another one I don't understand. Publicly releasing code is what can change a games perception, a games value, and more importantly for JJP a companies overall perception. Why should I buy Godfather or the next JJP title when the previous several are not polished, missing modes, and need more more choreography? I recently sold a couple games and Godfather was a potential next title for me but I just can't stomach a purchase due to where past JJP titles are at code wise. Sadly I can only assume Godfather will be treated the same way, goes back to the perception point. I'll be buying a Cactus Canyon remake or Godzilla Premium instead.
I am awaiting an upper playfield replacement I need to buy since they do not warranty the shitty playfields that fell apart during the first 50 plays. Let alone the non existent code updates. At least my original servos are still going strong as well as everything else but yes
I too have not bought another jjp game due to this. Sad it is . But glad I saved my money . I lost my desires to buy new.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Code support from JJP has sadly been abysmal over the past few years, I don't know what's going on. I'm sure JJP staff are tired of reading these types of comments but they were the ones that set the persistent of JJP games receiving deep code support with games like WOZ, Hobbit, and Dialed In. It's been 18 months since GNR received it's last code update. That's how the best selling JJP game of all time is treated it? Again I don't understand it. There's a reason so many GNR's are listed on the marketplace and lack of code support is the number one contributor IMO.
Code cannot be in beta forever either, that's another one I don't understand. Publicly releasing code is what can change a games perception, a games value, and more importantly for JJP a companies overall perception. Why should I buy Godfather or the next JJP title when the previous several are not polished, missing modes, and need more more choreography? I recently sold a couple games and Godfather was a potential next title for me but I just can't stomach a purchase due to where past JJP titles are at code wise. Sadly I can only assume Godfather will be treated the same way, goes back to the perception point. I'll be buying a Cactus Canyon remake or Godzilla Premium instead.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Why should I buy Godfather or the next JJP title when the previous several are not polished, missing modes, and need more more choreography? I recently sold a couple games and Godfather was a potential next title for me but I just can't stomach a purchase due to where past JJP titles are at code wise. Sadly I can only assume Godfather will be treated the same way, goes back to the perception point. I'll be buying a Cactus Canyon remake or Godzilla Premium instead.
Just curious , what do you think is missing from The Godfather code ?
Quoted from PinMonk:The wire from Left Ramp Left Target switch has likely broken off, probably at the next switch. They're daisy chained together. Look where they stop working and that's where the broken wire likely is. Find the wire, resolder (with the power OFF) and you should be back in business.
I'm having trouble tracing the wires out just due to all the cable ties, etc bunching everything together. Trying to avoid cutting the cable ties if I don't have to. Visually, the wires all look intact. Using my multi-meter, I don't seem to have continuity between the Left Ramp Left Target and the Left Ramp Right Target on the Green/Orange colored wire. Since these targets are only a couple inches apart I'd expect to see just a short jumper going between them, but both wires disappear into a bundle hundreds of other very tightly wrapped wires. Are the various switches wired in the same order that they are listed in in the matrix? Since Left Ramp Right Target is directly after Left Ramp Left Target, can I be 100% positive that there is nothing wired between them that I should be testing continuity at?
Quoted from etr104:I'm having trouble tracing the wires out just due to all the cable ties, etc bunching everything together. Trying to avoid cutting the cable ties if I don't have to. Visually, the wires all look intact. Using my multi-meter, I don't seem to have continuity between the Left Ramp Left Target and the Left Ramp Right Target on the Green/brown colored wire. Since these targets are only a couple inches apart I'd expect to see just a short jumper going between them, but both wires disappear into a bundle hundreds of other very tightly wrapped wires. Are the various switches wired in the same order that they are listed in in the matrix? Since Left Ramp Right Target is directly after Left Ramp Left Target, can I be 100% positive that there is nothing wired between them that I should be testing continuity at?
I had this happen and was also helped by PinMonk.
Turned out to be a bad solder at a switch. Check all your solder points as a weak one may have to be reflowed... You can usually see the culprit on the switch matrix screen.. for me it was the last one working was the culprit... And like a Christmas tree line, fixed that point and the rest turned on in serial
Quoted from screaminr:Just curious , what do you think is missing from The Godfather code ?
There’s a severe lack of choreography in all of the games multiballs. Compound multiball, Sicily multiball, etc are all very generic IMO. There’s the same animation playing throughout them. What about a compound is going on Compound Multiball? Nothing. There’s no unique animations, callouts, etc that change / play as shots are made. Same goes for the others. What about Sicily is going on with Sicily multiball? Nothing, it’s just random jackpot shots. If that’s just the way they were designed that’s very underwhelming.
Meanwhile at Stern today…
Quoted from PanzerFreak:There’s a severe lack of choreography in all of the games multiballs. Compound multiball, Sicily multiball, etc are all very generic IMO. There’s the same animation playing throughout them. What about a compound is going on Compound Multiball? Nothing. There’s no unique animations, callouts, etc that change / play as shots are made. Same goes for the others. What about Sicily is going on with Sicily multiball? Nothing, it’s just random jackpot shots. If that’s just the way they were designed that’s very underwhelming.
Meanwhile at Stern today…
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You need a YouTube channel dude. You need a bigger platform and I think you'd do well, seriously.
Quoted from Vespula:You need a YouTube channel dude. You need a bigger platform and I think you'd do well, seriously.
Lol thank you. My wife would probably like that so I start talking less about pinball to her all the time haha.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Code support from JJP has sadly been abysmal over the past few years, I don't know what's going on. I'm sure JJP staff are tired of reading these types of comments but they were the ones that set the persistent of JJP games receiving deep code support with games like WOZ, Hobbit, and Dialed In. It's been 18 months since GNR received it's last code update. That's how the best selling JJP game of all time is treated it? Again I don't understand it. There's a reason so many GNR's are listed on the marketplace and lack of code support is the number one contributor IMO.
Code cannot be in beta forever either, that's another one I don't understand. Publicly releasing code is what can change a games perception, a games value, and more importantly for JJP a companies overall perception. Why should I buy Godfather or the next JJP title when the previous several are not polished, missing modes, and need more more choreography? I recently sold a couple games and Godfather was a potential next title for me but I just can't stomach a purchase due to where past JJP titles are at code wise. Sadly I can only assume Godfather will be treated the same way, goes back to the perception point. I'll be buying a Cactus Canyon remake or Godzilla Premium instead.
In other news. I’ve had my GNR for 2 1/2 years and games that have come and gone and tried to dethrone GNR are, in no particular order:
IMDN
Jurassic Park
Deadpool
LOV
TMNT
AIQ
So there’s that. All in all Panzer, it might be a good idea to sell and get a Godzilla if you’re into code updates. But it seems that people tire of that game in just a few months, can you say most overrated game on pinside? Fair warning. Other than that; what’s your main gripes on GNR code and have you tried adjusting settings?
But yea, a code update for GNR would be nice.
Quoted from Eskaybee:In other news. I’ve had my GNR for 2 1/2 years and games that have come and gone and tried to dethrone GNR are, in no particular order:
IMDN
Jurassic Park
Deadpool
LOV
TMNT
AIQ
So there’s that. All in all Panzer, it might be a good idea to sell and get a Godzilla if you’re into code updates. But it seems that people tire of that game in just a few months, can you say most overrated game on pinside? Fair warning. Other than that; what’s your main gripes on GNR code and have you tried adjusting settings?
But yea, a code update for GNR would be nice.
Oh yeah, GNR is still awesome. I'm definitely not selling mine, my wife and I enjoy it a lot.
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