Quoted from Pinfidel:

GnR is awesome & It's super fun to play.
Some don't get the design idea behind it. It wasn't meant to be a flow monster, but rather a change up machine with video added. It's a stop & go pin as a great change up from the norm, & that makes it different & cool. Regardless, it still has some great flow elements. The ramps are awesome, smooth, fast & super satisfying to hit. The loops are smooth & fast too, while the guitar pic spinners in the loop lanes with how they reflectively light up & play guitar strings as they spin are imo the greatest spinners ever in pinball bar none.
People just look at GnR from the wrong perspective. It's not going to be like Star Trek, AFM, Tron, Demo Man or even Dialed In with its flow, because It wasn't designed to be like that. It was made to be different & incorporate different playing elements into it. When people realize this, they'll appreciate it a lot more & enjoy it for what & how it is. = )
Flow aside, this pin has so much going on inside it, it's ridiculous! Everyone plays mine when they come over & barely touches my other machines now. The thing is totally immersive & completely mesmerizing. The massive LED screen, the mini LED screen, the lights, the sounds, the callouts, the colors, the hot rails, the songs, the interactive lockdown bar button... everyone is in awe of it! And while it'd be awesome to get a nice big code update with some video play refinements, a bunch more cool callouts & song additions, the thing is a an absolute code beast! I mean... 21 songs! All that coding for each individual song! All the coded light sequences! All the screen animations! All the concert footage! Videoing you & throwing you up on the big screen during game play like a jumbotron! Taking a selfie with Slash! Are you kidding me!!!? This thing probably has 10 times the amount of code than any other game ever made & it's twice as mesmerizing to boot. And me... I don't even care for Guns n Roses as a band, but the machine is simply awesome! So coding kudos to Keefer and the coding team!
My only gripe is not including the songs "Knocking on Heaven's door" & "Sweet Child of Mine" in the game. 2 of their biggest & best songs & they're unfortunately not in the machine. Short of copywrite issues, idk why they wouldn't be in there. Thank God Paul McCartney was nice enough to allow Live & Let Die to be used.
So if they do release a code update, I pray it has those 2 songs on it. They don't even have to code in new light shows. Just have those 2 songs randomly choose another songs light show, idc. That'd be cool enough for me. I just want those 2 songs in there. Either that or some genius in our community has to come up with a way to code them into the machine via flash drive the way others did with AC/DC when they expanded that machines song list.
Anyway, It won't be leaving my house any time soon. And my 16 y/o daughter (who was so upset at me for selling our Transformers LE Combo that she cried) loves it so much, she said & did this to me... "If you sell THIS... then made the throat slash to her neck with her eyes wide opened." I WAS STUNNED! In other words, sell this and I'll kill ya!
That says it all!
So while no game is for everyone, GnR is still an undeniably awesome pin.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

Hi Glp,
Did you move the outlane posts in? I did that and it made a huge difference.

Quoted from glpinball:

Yeah that was one of the tweaks. It did help.

Quoted from mmuglia:

I have a collection of only 6 games, to include GnR LE, and it still gets very little play.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

Yes, I made a mistake with "Sweet Child of Mine." My bad there. LOL There's a 2nd big song of theirs that's not in there that I wish was. I just can't think of it now. Heaven's Door and 1 other tune.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

GnR is awesome & It's super fun to play.
Some don't get the design idea behind it. It wasn't meant to be a flow monster, but rather a change up machine with video added. It's a stop & go pin as a great change up from the norm, & that makes it different & cool. Regardless, it still has some great flow elements. The ramps are awesome, smooth, fast & super satisfying to hit. The loops are smooth & fast too, while the guitar pic spinners in the loop lanes with how they reflectively light up & play guitar strings as they spin are imo the greatest spinners ever in pinball bar none.
People just look at GnR from the wrong perspective. It's not going to be like Star Trek, AFM, Tron, Demo Man or even Dialed In with its flow, because It wasn't designed to be like that. It was made to be different & incorporate different playing elements into it. When people realize this, they'll appreciate it a lot more & enjoy it for what & how it is. = )
Flow aside, this pin has so much going on inside it, it's ridiculous! Everyone plays mine when they come over & barely touches my other machines now. The thing is totally immersive & completely mesmerizing. The massive LED screen, the mini LED screen, the lights, the sounds, the callouts, the colors, the hot rails, the songs, the interactive lockdown bar button... everyone is in awe of it! And while it'd be awesome to get a nice big code update with some video play refinements, a bunch more cool callouts & song additions, the thing is a an absolute code beast! I mean... 21 songs! All that coding for each individual song! All the coded light sequences! All the screen animations! All the concert footage! Videoing you & throwing you up on the big screen during game play like a jumbotron! Taking a selfie with Slash! Are you kidding me!!!? This thing probably has 10 times the amount of code than any other game ever made & it's twice as mesmerizing to boot. And me... I don't even care for Guns n Roses as a band, but the machine is simply awesome! So coding kudos to Keefer and the coding team!
My only gripe is not including the songs "Knocking on Heaven's door" & "Sweet Child of Mine" in the game. 2 of their biggest & best songs & they're unfortunately not in the machine. Short of copywrite issues, idk why they wouldn't be in there. Thank God Paul McCartney was nice enough to allow Live & Let Die to be used.
So if they do release a code update, I pray it has those 2 songs on it. They don't even have to code in new light shows. Just have those 2 songs randomly choose another songs light show, idc. That'd be cool enough for me. I just want those 2 songs in there. Either that or some genius in our community has to come up with a way to code them into the machine via flash drive the way others did with AC/DC when they expanded that machines song list.
Anyway, It won't be leaving my house any time soon. And my 16 y/o daughter (who was so upset at me for selling our Transformers LE Combo that she cried) loves it so much, she said & did this to me... "If you sell THIS... then made the throat slash to her neck with her eyes wide opened." I WAS STUNNED! In other words, sell this and I'll kill ya!
That says it all!
So while no game is for everyone, GnR is still an undeniably awesome pin.

Quoted from Vespula:

I still feel like Pinfidel about it (except mine is better since it has Sweet Child on it. )

Quoted from Pinfidel:

Yes, I made a mistake with "Sweet Child of Mine." My bad there. LOL There's a 2nd big song of theirs that's not in there that I wish was. I just can't think of it now. Heaven's Door and 1 other tune.

Quoted from John-Floyd:

"I used to love her"? That's a good one that I wished was in there...

Quoted from mmuglia:

I have a collection of only 6 games, to include GnR LE, and it still gets very little play. Usually this is how it goes when I have friends over:
Friend: What game do you want to play?
Me: You're the guest, you pick.
Friend: Let's play Cirqus Voltaire.
Me: Sounds good.
A few hours go by and we've played every game multiple times, but GnR went untouched.
Friend: I'm getting ready to leave. Let's at least play one game on GnR.
Me: Let's do it.
Friend: This is a beautiful game, but it isn't much fun.
I have several different groups of friends that come to the house to play pinball, and this is pretty much what happens with all of them.
I am waiting for a good code update on this game, but I'm afraid it will never come. The layout is great, but the rules choke the fun right out of the game.

Quoted from Eskaybee:

CV is the most overrated borefest game in the top 100 - So there’s that opinion too.

Quoted from Eskaybee:

CV is the most overrated borefest game in the top 100 - So there’s that opinion too.

Quoted from javagrind888:

I can see it getting old quick in a home environment, but playing it on location in leagues and such it's a great pin.

Quoted from javagrind888:

I'm thinking about grabbing those precision flipper halos too.

Quoted from arzoo:

Do it! Prior to installing the Precision Flippers I would play a couple games, remember how annoying the flippers felt, and then move on to another pin. Now I'm actually enjoying GnR again!

Quoted from arzoo:

Do it! Prior to installing the Precision Flippers I would play a couple games, remember how annoying the flippers felt, and then move on to another pin. Now I'm actually enjoying GnR again!

Quoted from CoolCatPinball:

I'm afraid if I put them on 1 game, I'll be buying 11 more sets

Quoted from glpinball:

It's a drain monster despite some tweaking. If they had moved the left ramp back 4 inches or so I think that would've helped.

Quoted from Vespula:

It's loose. Not the playfield fault, imo.
You can see the black washer looks like it's moving.
You can fix that. Remove both the washers, get clear petg, maybe even slightly bigger than the black, remove the metal washer. Throw it away. Get a 6 tooth t-nut to replace the 4 tooth.
Lightly start warm it up and smooth it out. Now Put the clear on, no metal washer, tighten down with new 6 tooth t-nut just to the point the washer starts to lift at the edges.
Did that and it's still good to this day.
Want the quick and dirty way Just take it apart smooth it all out with some low heat slowly take your time, throw the metal washer away Just use the black one, put the good side down tighten it until it starts to lift a little bit and keep an eye on it.
There's other variations but that first recommendation is what I did and it worked for me.
PS I've got some extra clear PETG washers I can send you in the mail. And six teeth t-nut. Glad to send you both

Quoted from king_pin:

I checked the post. It's tight. I will probably try what you suggested but the pooling isn't because the post is loose.

Quoted from mmuglia:

I have a collection of only 6 games, to include GnR LE, and it still gets very little play. Usually this is how it goes when I have friends over:
Friend: What game do you want to play?
Me: You're the guest, you pick.
Friend: Let's play Cirqus Voltaire.
Me: Sounds good.
A few hours go by and we've played every game multiple times, but GnR went untouched.
Friend: I'm getting ready to leave. Let's at least play one game on GnR.
Me: Let's do it.
Friend: This is a beautiful game, but it isn't much fun.
I have several different groups of friends that come to the house to play pinball, and this is pretty much what happens with all of them.
I am waiting for a good code update on this game, but I'm afraid it will never come. The layout is great, but the rules choke the fun right out of the game.

Quoted from king_pin:

Is there a way for me to get on to the beta without joining the telegram channel? Can I keep my settings and scores if I move to beta?

Quoted from RA77:

Will code update ever happen ?

Quoted from king_pin:

Is there a way for me to get on to the beta without joining the telegram channel? Can I keep my settings and scores if I move to beta?

Quoted from Mattyk:

Sounds similar. I have a couple of friends that like to come over to play pinball for a few hours. I have 4 pins. None of them care to play GNR. It’s just too unbalanced and the rules are boring. The game needs a few modes to kick in during gameplay other than fucking slash solo. They all agree it’s the sexiest game they’ve seen but they all have more fun playing Baywatch, which is a criminally underrated game BTW

Quoted from MikeS:

KOHD and Yesterdays were really the only charted hits that are missing besides some of the covers on Spaghetti Incident.

Quoted from lemmings418:

My experience is a bit different. I have two System 11s, two WPCs, and GnR LE.
The GNR gets the most love.
Friends and family that play at my place are all noobs. No hard core pinheads. So the simple instructions to qualify all the band members, shoot the center scoop and you get to pick your own song is simple and really resonates with them. They LOVE they can pick their songs. Points are irrelevant.
Next you get them looking at the goals to be accomplished during the song on the small screen. Then they fail. Get booed off stage. They laugh.
They do it again and again. They never take the jackpot. Their goal is to finish the song and get an encore.
Tack on an unexpected multiball here and there, which typically happens, and they are in heaven.
I appreciate the depth of pinball. But the simple side of things is how new people get into the hobby. If nothing meaningful happens until you are deep into the rules, it loses its appeal.
Patches, modes, stacking, etc. Not at first.
Like I said, my view here may be different. Doesn't mean its not my view.

Quoted from mostater:

Knockin on Heaven's Door and Yesterday would have been great to have. Were either of those songs played on the Not in this Lifetime tour.

I think this is an awesome approach to introduce noobs. Thanks for sharing this. I'm definitely going to borrow this approach and simple instructions

Quoted from lemmings418:

My experience is a bit different.

Quoted from MikeS:

Yes, both songs were regularly played on their set-list. I can understand why KOHD wasn't included since it's a Bob Dylan song and would have needed additional approval and licensing, but Yesterdays and Used to Lover her are the only originals that seem to be omitted from the game.
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Quoted from Vespula:

Wow what the happened with Lior's topper? He closed the project, closed his whole thread, refunded any purchases and implied copyright violations for his topper? Anybody know the story?

Quoted from Vespula:

Wow what the happened with Lior's topper? He closed the project, closed his whole thread, refunded any purchases and implied copyright violations for his topper? Anybody know the story?

Quoted from gearheaddropping:

Even all of his other mods for GNR have been removed on the Art of Pinball sub page.

Quoted from Vespula:

Wow... ok so due to new supply chain issues, here is what I got at current market pricing
Skull shooter mod: $2850
Bullet shooter rod: $2295
Action button Surround $1895
Drum Set: $2495
All four package deal $9995
Free ship
PM me.

Quoted from Vespula:

Wow... ok so due to new supply chain issues, here is what I got at current market pricing
Skull shooter mod: $2850
Bullet shooter rod: $2295
Action button Surround $1895
Drum Set: $2495
All four package deal $9995
Free ship
PM me.

Quoted from romulusx:

Just got my gunners!Thank you Zach @ Flipnout Pinball!
What’s the best way to run speaker thru to cabinet bass speaker lol
This is the most beautiful of pins!

Quoted from Vespula:

Wait.. 2 years and almost 200 posts later... You get the most active lurker award! Congrats on both achievements!

Quoted from Vespula:

It's in settings of the game to enable beta. And yes.
Utilities - NETWORK settings - advanced settings - under updates there is a beta opt in

Quoted from romulusx:

I’m busted!Somebody has to defend JJP games from the haters!

Quoted from gearheaddropping:

Even all of his other mods for GNR have been removed on the Art of Pinball sub page.