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Quoted from RA77:My first attempt at BT connection today and found Bluetooth of JBL headphones effortless
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How is the sound quality? I found it to be very poor like FM Radio
Quoted from thechakapakuni:How is the sound quality? I found it to be very poor like FM Radio
Thanks for asking Chaka
Surprisingly very good
Im a bit of an audio nut and found the quality to be acceptable. I would not say high end, but certainly very good . If I could rate out of 10 I'd give it a solid 7
The JBLs are only low spec. I will try with my flagship Sony's tomorrow and provide feedback.
Dubai
Quoted from RA77:Anyone have a solution for left ramp diverter firing erratically ?
I think you will find that is intentional. It helps reduce the heat on the diverter coil.
Quoted from swampy:I think you will find that is intentional. It helps reduce the heat on the diverter coil.
Oh man, thanks for the answer, but wow that's not what I wanted to hear. Constant banging is driving me nuts. Really puts me off my game 
Quoted from RA77:Oh man, thanks for the answer, but wow that's not what I wanted to hear. Constant banging is driving me nuts. Really puts me off my game
(Complete noob here - first pinball ever so forgive me ahead of time if this sounds dumb) Good to hear it is “normal”. Yesterday on my initial plays I kept hearing these random mechanical bangs (specially one that happens after you end your game that sounded like something getting unlocked / metal on metal single bang). I did check the whole playfield to see if the diverted was chewing on the playfield or if anything else with a coil was chewing up the playfield or damaging something but didn’t find anything so I’m assuming it is normal. You should have seen my face the first time I heard that bang!
Verona, NJ
Quoted from Mar3nBu:(Complete noob here - first pinball ever so forgive me ahead of time if this sounds dumb) Good to hear it is “normal”. Yesterday on my initial plays I kept hearing these random mechanical bangs (specially one that happens after you end your game that sounded like something getting unlocked / metal on metal single bang). I did check the whole playfield to see if the diverted was chewing on the playfield or if anything else with a coil was chewing up the playfield or damaging something but didn’t find anything so I’m assuming it is normal. You should have seen my face the first time I heard that bang!
The diverter will go up and down depending on your game progress. It will also react to try to control the temperature of the coil that controls it.
The bang at the end of your game was likely a 'match', where the last digit of your score matches the random number displayed. This awards a replay. Not useful in a free play environment.
Just a quick note, that I haven't been able to find the Germany based company Pinball Universe GUNS N ROSES PINBALL SPOTLIGHT UPGRADE KIT as they have not been available in the states that I can find, so being out of patience 
, and little to start with anyway, I went to the trouble (PITA) to order from PU in Germany and added in 6 extra kits to my order to spread out the high shipping costs for others who may also want this kit.
What I discovered was if you ever tried to order from PU in Germany to USA, you will find they dont even do it. USA isnt on the list.... and plus you add the Euro conversion rate and then high shipping costs through proxy will increase again as you have to go through a proxy service to get from PU to USA ... but if you want this kit, PM/DM me. If I am an idiot and there are other methods of getting this elsewhere then feel free to tell me that.
The kits are en route to me from Germany now and once they land (tracking shows 10/25!!) then I will ship them out to the lucky 6 people who got them . Hoping I am not breaking any forum rules here.
$105 flat price for the kit covers the kit below and all the S&H costs to get them from PU in Germany through me and to your door in the USA. Friends and family Paypal preferred, please.
Send me a private message if you want one. Six total will be available and your Paypal payment claim a slot. They are going fast!
You can check current slot availability in the edit section at the bottom of this post!
Quoted from fooflighter:A little pricey but definitely more robust and stronger than the JJP ones. While I was at it, converted all my servos to EMAX ES 3054's.
https://pu-parts.com/jjp-guns-n-roses-spotlight-pu-upgrade-kit
This Upgrade Kit developed by Pinball Universe fits the Guns N' Roses models Limited Edition (LE) und Collectors Edition (CE) by Jersey Jack Pinball (JJP). It replaces the original spotlight brackets and mechanics with more solid, 3D-printed parts increasing the durability of the device.
This Kit includes the following parts:
2 x Support angle for the servo motor
2 x Spotlight arms
2 x Spotlight bracket (left and Right are different)
4 x Heat shrink tube 5 mm
5 x Cable ties
1 x Rubber band
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Updated qty remaining.. only 2 of 6 left!
Added over 3 years ago:Only 1 spot remaining!!
Added over 2 years ago:Group buy closed
Quoted from Mattyk:Lower your flippers a tad and you will be nailing that ramp instead of clunking it off the targets
Does this mean
1) flipper power
2) flipper angle (lower towards drain)
3) flipper bushing height
Thanks.
Quoted from Lounge:Does this mean
1) flipper power
2) flipper angle (lower towards drain)
3) flipper bushing height
Thanks.
Try lowering the power as that is the easiest to do and see if it solves for the issue.
Quoted from RA77:Thanks for asking Chaka
Surprisingly very good
Im a bit of an audio nut and found the quality to be acceptable. I would not say high end, but certainly very good . If I could rate out of 10 I'd give it a solid 7
The JBLs are only low spec. I will try with my flagship Sony's tomorrow and provide feedback.
What about the bluetooth delay? I found it to be around 1/2 a second. For pinball that is simply unacceptable. Let me know if you are able to reconnect just as easily as you paired. That's also been an issue. I've found bluetooth to be very bad, but maybe they improved it.
INNER LOOP TO RIGHT OUTLANE DRAIN PREVENTION
With about 75% of the inner loop rail drains immediately to the right outlane, regardless of speed or start of the ball location; whether it's the upper playfield slow roll, or a shot that didn't quite make it around the inner loop and comes sailing back around the rail - draining (regardless of all nudging) was becomming frustrating.
I've played with the post position and while moving it closer to the rail provided some temporary relief, it would seem to settle back into a drain pattern.
This little fix seems to have done the trick without modification of the guide rail position and only takes minutes.
Required:
I used a tapered slim transluscent post rubber, you could probably use a thicker straight one (although good luck getting it on the post and it would probably be too bulky for what we're trying to accomplish), but I used the slim taper because: A. It's what I had available lying around B. Thin enough to retain the post groove to retain the shape of the indent to allow positioning of the ring back on the post in the correct position.
This is just a millimeter fix in terms of the amount the ring jutting out into the rail path but it seems to make all the difference in the world without having to bend rails or move the geometry off factory settings.
Steps:
1. Remove the screw with a small narrow driver to get in between the clear left ramp edge and the left return ramp.
2. Place a small drop (and i mean small) of dish soap on the sleeve and work it over the bare post.
3. Wash to remove any soap residue and dry thoroughly before install (a can of compressed air and a little time will do the trick here)
4. Place original ring over post and post rubber
5. Screw back into playfield using your fingers as guides and make sure the post is as closely aligned to the rail as possible and as much of the rubber jutting out into the rail path as possible while keeping the post straight as you screw it back in
6. Admire your awesome work and say goodbye to cheap ball drains for good.
Quoted from fooflighter:Inner loop rail to right outlane insta-drain prevention
This little fix seems to have done the trick without modification of the guide rail position and only takes minutes.
Brilliant, as usual, another key post for you. 
Quoted from Vespula:Brilliant, as usual, another key post for you.
Thanks, hope it works for those with issues. So far so good on mine
Quoted from Lounge:Does this mean
1) flipper power
2) flipper angle (lower towards drain)
3) flipper bushing height
Thanks.
Sorry I should have been more clear. Lower the angle a bit (#2). I was bricking a lot of shots, especially during multi ball. After adjusting the angles I am hitting the left ramp much more often and also the orbits. Scores have definitely gone up and games are lasting longer.
Trade off is it will be more difficult to backhand the left ramp for easy patch collection but I accept the trade off. Game is more fun now
Quoted from Mattyk:Sorry I should have been more clear. Lower the angle a bit (#2). I was bricking a lot of shots, especially during multi ball. After adjusting the angles I am hitting the left ramp much more often and also the orbits. Scores have definitely gone up and games are lasting longer.
Trade off is it will be more difficult to backhand the left ramp for easy patch collection but I accept the trade off. Game is more fun now
What about raise the left and lower the right ? I was going to try this tonight just for the hell of it .What’s your thoughts ?
Quoted from Kkoss24:What about raise the left and lower the right ? I was going to try this tonight just for the hell of it .What’s your thoughts ?
I can’t stand to look at flippers that are uneven. But it’s entirely up to you and how you want to enjoy the game. I’ve been able to collect patches more often now because I can hit the ramp with my right flipper.
I am not typically known to play slow and in control. I just go ham on it. Probably why I don’t come close to scores that some people here put up
Quoted from Vespula:If I am an idiot and there are other methods of getting this elsewhere then feel free to tell me that.
I got the kit a few weeks ago from Mezel Mods, though it does appear they're currently out of stock.
Quoted from Blackjacker:I got the kit a few weeks ago from Mezel Mods, though it does appear they're currently out of stock.
https://mezelmods.com/collections/guns-n-roses-jersey-jack-pinball/products/guns-n-roses-pinball-spotlight-upgrade-kit
Correct, and I got tired of waiting, which is why I took matters into my own hands! After all the costs of shipping, this group buy is only ~$20 more per person.
UPS tracking from Germany shows delivery on 10/25 !! Fassssst!
Quoted from timbo74:I just added you too!
I'm Tim if anyone wants to add me
Added both of you guys. I’m Galooch if you want to add me.
Can someone chime in again on how Scorbit challenges work?
Newcastle
Have you guys left your tilt sensitivity to factory normal? I feel like mines a touch sensitive. Like when I’m just jamming in a song and maybe the shaker is shaking I get some extraneous warnings that really cause me to finger tap the machine…
Quoted from DougAUS11:Have an inner loop switch 74 entry stuck open and can't find any location reference in manual. could anyone assist and point to the right direction
Please go into Tests - Switches - Single Switch. Scroll down to #74, it will be highlighted on the display.
LTG : )
Quoted from LTG:Please go into Tests - Switches - Single Switch. Scroll down to #74, it will be highlighted on the display.
LTG : )
Seems to be an opto location would that be correct ??
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Quoted from DougAUS11:Seems to be an opto location would that be correct ??
If that is what is lit for #74, yes.
LTG : )
Quoted from DougAUS11:Seems to be an opto location would that be correct ??
Tests - Switches - Matrixed, is #74 an opto on the display with other optos ?
LTG : )
Quoted from DougAUS11:Showing red bad switch but other optos display ok
So it is an opto. And isn't working or hasn't been triggered.
Time to investigate is it fell out of it's holder or something else wrong.
LTG : )
Quoted from LTG:So it is an opto. And isn't working or hasn't been triggered.
Time to investigate is it fell out of it's holder or something else wrong.
LTG : )
Removed, cleaned and reset connector associated with opto and success
Ver much appreciate the reply’s and help on this…. Great support
Cheers
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Quoted from Hayfarmer:Long night tonight,,,,,, my gnr is bein delivered tomorrow!! Doubt if I'll sleep
Adult Christmas Eve !
Quoted from Hayfarmer:Long night tonight,,,,,, my gnr is bein delivered tomorrow!! Doubt if I'll sleep
You must sleep! Cause tomorrow you will not, I guarantee it.
Pinwoofer, art blades, Mr tantrum flipper toppers already here , still cant find any plastic protectors I like. Any thing out there besides blue or clear?
Quoted from Hayfarmer:Long night tonight,,,,,, my gnr is bein delivered tomorrow!! Doubt if I'll sleep
Quoted from Eskaybee:You must sleep! Cause tomorrow you will not, I guarantee it.
Right.. in addition to collecting stuff like you, I'm also saving vacation days for the big event!
Exciting! Congrats!!
Quoted from Hayfarmer:Pinwoofer, art blades, Mr tantrum flipper toppers already here , still cant find any plastic protectors I like. Any thing out there besides blue or clear?
Red would be nice for the LE & Purple for the CE but nobody is making those colors yet. I just got the clear
Quoted from thechakapakuni:Red would be nice for the LE & Purple for the CE but nobody is making those colors yet. I just got the clear
You said they were too small tho?
Quoted from Hayfarmer:You said they were too small tho?
The original full set was. They make a 4 piece that is correct with overlap. Clear for LE looks sold out but the restock often. They have blue
Quoted from thechakapakuni:The original full set was. They make a 4 piece that is correct with overlap. Clear for LE looks sold out but the restock often. They have blue
https://mezelmods.com/collections/guns-n-roses-jersey-jack-pinball/products/guns-n-roses-pinball-plastic-protector-set-jjp?variant=32805546360929
Saw those but idk. The blue doesn't seem to jell in my opinion. Maybe I need to see a better pic of them. Anyone?
Quoted from Galooch:Added both of you guys. I’m Galooch if you want to add me.
Can someone chime in again on how Scorbit challenges work?
Bumping this… I finally had some time to play tonight and got a pretty good score (well, for me… 19 mil), and I excitedly went through Scorbit trying to figure out how to send a challenge to someone. But I am not smart enough. That or Scorbit thinks trying to challenge with 19m is too pathetic to allow.
There’s a dedicated Scorbit channel. Jay pops in here once in a while but is active there. He has all the answers
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/scorbit-official-thread
In other news, in case you want an interesting read, here’s an article discussing Shaq’s involvement in Chinese Democracy. And if it weren’t whacky enough
Better you then me?
Quoted from deejaypee:Bumping this… I finally had some time to play tonight and got a pretty good score (well, for me… 19 mil), and I excitedly went through Scorbit trying to figure out how to send a challenge to someone. But I am not smart enough. That or Scorbit thinks trying to challenge with 19m is too pathetic to allow.
I got a notification that you set a high score somewhere. Congrats!
Quoted from kermit24:What about the bluetooth delay? I found it to be around 1/2 a second. For pinball that is simply unacceptable. Let me know if you are able to reconnect just as easily as you paired. That's also been an issue. I've found bluetooth to be very bad, but maybe they improved it.
I just connected the Sony X3 and again was super easy. Yes there is delay. I played a couple of songs in Jukebox then a full game. Audio quality was decent and acceptable. Certainly nothing amazing but decent nonetheless.
20211022_124838 (resized).jpgI connected a pair of Bose Quietcomforts and the sound on everything else has been crystal clear. On this pin it was FM quality. Very strange. No biggie though, as I mentioned I have the cable and can just plug directly into the pin stereo Jack
Quoted from RA77:Tibetan breeze and airball shield ready to install this weekend, thanks Vic.
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Large score bump incoming.
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