Quoted from arzoo:

While we're on the subject of the washers, this is interesting. While swapping out the clear washers that came with the pin on the slings, I noticed they are not flat on the bottom. Instead, they have a raised ring in the center and outer edge. Wonder if this was by design? I can't see any advantage and I would think they might make indentations (although I didn't see any).
As an FYI, I've been putting a clear PETG washer on pretty much every post on the pin (although the black ones really do look fine) and in only one case was there any pooling, and that post was not tightened down from the factory, so it was leaning slightly and digging in to the pf from the rubber pulling.[quoted image]

Quoted from allsportdvd:

Is it normal that I have to short the power between the 3rd and 4th pins on the backbox connector to get my machine to turn on? It needed that right out of the box and I'm doing that at least once a month because my machine doesn't fire up

Quoted from sushko:

I got the Emax servos and the gears are different sizes. Are you guys just doing the make it work method. As in just force fitting it. Including picture for reference.
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Quoted from zaphX:

I don’t understand this.
I just screwed it in using the screw that came with the new servo.
I don’t understand the problem.

Quoted from PinMonk:

That's weird. If anything the gears on the EMAX ones I installed were on the snug side.

Quoted from PinMonk:

With more play time now, there is DEFINITELY something that can happen to TAKE AWAY progress on G-N-R lighting progression. I had one last night where I had G-N lit and just had to get R, the ball went over the amp inlane next to GNR and suddenly I had ZERO lit GNR on the patch I was going for. I couldn't believe it. I stopped the ball and cycled through to verify none lit at all, and there weren't. Not sure if this is a bug or a feature and I don't understand the rules enough yet, but do not like.

Quoted from AvidPinPlayer:

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the Slash Solo as well as some of the other modes as Tear Down the Wall, Desert Race, even Tour Multi-ball seem to be a way to prevent a player from completing more songs and therefore a lower score. Today, I started by holding on the ball during Slash Solo and letting the timer run out. So far, a better score.

Quoted from zaphX:

I say leave the felt - it's there to prevent damage to the radcals/side art.
If it feels wobbly (or squeaks when nudged) tighten a bit more.

Quoted from deejaypee:

I honestly can’t tell if this rule set is so genius that it’ll keep revealing new layers of complexity or if it’s really kind of a hodgepodge of good ideas that players learn to manipulate with good shooting. If that makes sense.
Maybe those two things aren’t even mutually exclusive. It’s like the game doesn’t want you to rip the whole thing—you decide to go down this path or that one, and it’s basically impossible to do it all (album modes, concert playing) in one game. That sort of bothers me but I don’t think it’s a bad thing. It’s just different. I wonder if they tried to make the pin a journey with those two paths tied together and it was just too much. You know, you collect song time when you’re playing to get to the album modes, and obviously you could blow up song scores while going down that avenue. Slash solo comes up as an eventuality from just playing. Same with tour multiball, essentially. Conceptually, everything is in line to play the songs for score while doing album modes to reach NSFTD, but is any human really good enough to do it all?

Quoted from DKong:

Thanks mate, I wasn't sure of what gauge washers to use. i used the smallest one I had and straight to the tip of the left flipper every time, I love you

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

I've done that 3 times in 350 plays and it keeps loosening up and shifting back. Funny how some games have no issues here, a friends game has not been touched and works perfect. Whoever came up with the washer idea deserves all the credit, seems to be the correct solution. With a small telescoping magnet to hold the washer in place, it's really less than 5 minutes to do.

Quoted from Vespula:

Yeah but I was mainly talking about the adult video setting.
There's a setting for global adult content yes/no...
Then under that there is 3 detail settings where you can customize the adult content, and one of them is songs, another one is call outs and then the third one is video. So you could turn on the 5 songs without turning on the call outs or the video.
I got the call outs is just language, but it was the video setting that I was most curious about....

Quoted from punkin:

Got me absolutely fucked how anyone with half a brain would downvote someone for an honest opinion shared.

Quoted from mmuglia:

What's a good score? I'm done playing at the end of 1 day owning the game and the best I could do was 4.5 million.

Quoted from Vespula:

I'm not to humble to admit I just figured out the upper playfield drain won't award G N R letter unless you select the GnR lane before it drains.. am I wrong?
Slowly learning.

Quoted from screaminr:Unless you have a problem , I don't know why people are changing them .
My mate came over and said your flippers don't look even , I said that's how it came . I backhand & forehand both ramps on standard power settings .

Quoted from Blackjacker:

Probably same guy that applies the coin door sticker.

Quoted from punkin:

No, i must be from anywhere on earth except North America.
I don't know what prog is either.
Happy in my little aussie space, don't worry on my account.
You guys probably don't know Dave Warner, Ian Drury or The Sports. maybe you know the Angels, but prob's not the Radiators.
Sad goes both ways.

Quoted from jacksparrow0112:

Hi everyone,
I’m hoping to receive the LE I ordered last April sometime soon and am trying to familiarize myself with the rules. Is there a listing of the different song objectives somewhere? I have tried watching all of the available tutorial videos out there but haven’t been able to piece this together yet. Played a few times on location, and it seemed like the songs I played asked for me to hit flashing yellow/red shots. I am colorblind, and so the shots were not very obvious with the surrounding amazing lightshow. Would love a listing of shots per song to target (e.g. “inner loop”, “left orbit”, “right ramp” for song X) but have not come across this. Curious if anyone has put something like this together.
Thanks in advance!

Quoted from Eskaybee:

Actually the songs are quite different from each other and each one makes you attack the playfield and combos differently. The only similarity between songs is band frenzy and power chord, even then those are situational pinball strategies.

Quoted from Eskaybee:

Just a few examples which isn’t 100% accurate.
My Michelle: 2 roving targets move clockwise to the tempo of the song.
Paradise City: pops light shots. Make a shot and it’s not valid again until you light it with pops.
MR brownstone: main shots lit, make 2 or 3 then center spinner lights.
Coma: 5? Main shots lit, make one shot the. All out except the coma shot
Out ta get me: left side of playfield is lit. As song progresses the shots move to the right playfield.
Sweet child o mine: I believe this one alternates from loops to ramps
You could be mine: only one shot is lit, once you progress to the next wave, the one shot moves.
Civil war: inner loop always lit + one other shot
Estranged: targets for the most part + Ramps alternate from time to time.
Welcome to the jungle: this seems has the most variety in what shots are lit depending how far along you make it in the waves.
It’s so easy: frenzy + shots
November rain: switch frenzy
I’m sure I’m missing some details. Not the type to write it all down but with 1500+ plays and a year of ownership, as soon as a song starts my memory kicks in on The shots pattern for a particular song.

Quoted from Ecw0930:

I think his point was "hit the flashing lights". With the exception of November Rain and Out Ta Get Me, which are all switches.
All songs play different. Some move targets, some rotate targets, some are static and always the same. Some songs eliminy targets as you hit them.
Welcome to the Jungle is one of the easiest. As is Rain and Out Ta Get Me.
Good luck. Best way to learn it is to play it. And playing it is fun so you'll be grand champ in no time!
Enjoy!

Quoted from ray-dude:

This little guy is awesome! I've been a bit challenged to keep mine from falling over (trying different tapes), but it fits perfectly back there

Quoted from PinMonk:

I don't like museum putty in pins. The ambient heat that builds up can make them into a creeping blob that can move and drip over edges, and then cleanup becomes a sticky mess. Use 3M extreme tape and be done with it.

Quoted from glpinball:

Arite imma gonna say how I feel about this game and keep in mind I have 8. If you count KISS 79. I love the art o. Gnr I love the lights I love it all. But trying to get high scores feels like a chore. I have to get certain patches and need to trigger the 4 multiballs and do well on those or else my getting into a song is worthless. I do not enjoy that. My opinion. I have more fun playing Led Zep. Fun. So....maybe some code changes would help but I have 6 other pinball machnes that are more fun. It feels too much like work.

Quoted from timbo74:

Definitely not the right outlane, or the left. I've got a feeling there just isn't a shot for it? It works well because it's basically like a ball save - or an extra ball if you're under ball save.

Quoted from Vespula:

Is that center spinner pick patch something you have to earn before it appears in the patch selections? How does it appear?
What I'm talking about is the JJP GnR bats logo, definitely not a pinball machine so it can't be the pinball patch. Plus there was no way I collected all patches... . But the patch I'm telling about also not there anymore because I checked. I didn't realize there were multiple patches that were hidden.
This was the patch
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Quoted from ZoraShinoda:

What triggers that Axl magnet to activate?

Quoted from deejaypee:

Wait, so I might have a bum magnet then. I thought it was just coded to never really activate with the last update, but I can’t remember the last time mine caught a ball at all. So if Axl isn’t collected, and I shoot it through the loop, it should be on?

Quoted from ThePhysicsGuy:

Greetings All - Joining the GnR club in a few hours... question: Does a list exist yet of "Things to check on/watch out for" on a new GnR?
Examples:
-The upper magnet tends to overheat and trip the thermal fuse (contacting coil)
-The flippers typically could use some cooling
-Most (or all?) of the posts could use plastic washers as pooling --> chipping has been seen
-The spotlights are common failure points (sagging) (where is the failure point? pivots?)
-I've heard the center screw on the record sometimes loosens and becomes uneven....and its under a sticker
-The guitar lock screws can come out
-.....
Anyone got a list like this?
Also, what is this I hear about a $500 backup playfield/insurance?
Forgive me if I missed this in the threads - I did check before posting. ^_^ Thanks y'all.

Quoted from glpinball:

They should change the way ball locks work too. The booster multiballs can reduce your max number of possible ball locks.

Quoted from glpinball:

You'll notice it will start the song before you fully load the lock if you locked some booster multiballs us there, even if it released them. It seems to count them against your max lock total.

Quoted from Vespula:

On this vein, dont the 6 lights on the guitar light/sensors indicate how many virtual locks you do have when the balls are released so you can keep track?

Quoted from snaroff:

You're a funny person. Are you fairly new to playing/collecting? I'm not. I'm 60 and started playing in my teens and started collecting @ 40. I'm glad you are enjoying yourself...it's very clear that you love the game. I've had love/hate relationships with games, and GNR is definitely in this category for me. Sorry, but I think the scoring sucks. Love the concept of a song jackpot, just think that it's better implemented on AC/DC. 10-15 minutes games and no points just make no sense to me, but I realize someone in your position will rationalize the scoring as deep/brilliant in some way. I'm glad you love your game!

I LOVE the AC/DC song jackpot (though I rarely crank it up and cash it in on a regular basis). Even without cashing it in, I find I can get respectable scores and not feel like WTF? With GNR, a majority of my "good" games result in very low scores. Just weird.
No doubt that GNR is unique and offers a new/fresh experience. My hope is that I end up liking it as a game, not just an experience.

Quoted from Mattyk:

So all of a sudden all switches in the J201-4 Drive 4 column stopped working. I reseated the blue cable on both ends of it but still not working. Any suggestions?[quoted image][quoted image]
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Quoted from timbo74:

This anything to worry about? (flipper looks and works fine)[quoted image]

Quoted from holminone:

Yeah. Lately I’ve been opening the door and kicking it up two or three notches when a song comes on and that is just silly.

Quoted from PinMonk:

I think if you get the AXL rose patch it won't grab, maybe because you no longer would need the AXL lanes at that point?

Quoted from hool10:

They are just trolling us now.
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Quoted from Xelz:

LE is shipping in the next week or so, and think I've got everything I need on order. Am I missing anything important from a proactive maintenance and spare part standpoint?
Here's what I have so far:
- Titan silicone rings, 1/4" larger than stock in most cases
- PinMonk fans
- PinMonk air ball shield
- Ball Baron carbon steel balls
- Emax ES3054 servos
- PETG washers
- Cliffy's
- Nylon washers for the leg bolts
I have a few cosmetic upgrades like art blades plus PinWoofer incoming, but mostly I want to get the machine up and running as quickly as possible with spare parts on hand for common problems like the servos.

Quoted from blkspiderman:

Quick Question: Our upper right flipper is weak when hitting a shot, connections underneath are all good, Any advise? Anyone else having that issue? Thx!

Quoted from PinsNJeeps:

Fuck yeah! Slash in Portland about 10’ from us. [quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from WizardsCastle:So I put washers on one side of the scoop VUK, but some of the ejects are going dangerously close to the tip of the left flipper.
Is it supposed to hit closer to the middle?
Also, what's the recommended pitch for this game? 6.5?

Quoted from zaphX:I strongly disagree. Those protectors keep the legs from chewing into your cabinet. If the game squeaks when nudged, tighten the nuts a little more.

Quoted from lemmings418:

Question for LE owners.
When your game boots up and is in attract mode, where are the spotlights pointing?
Is it consistent each time?
My left one is pointing down. My right one is pointing up.
I am running 1.25 code
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Quoted from lemmings418:

Here is the latest info on the journey to fix the spotlights.
- All servo connections verified to be seated properly.
- No servo arms broken.
- No part of the arms are catching so I did not cut anything as per earlier issues.
What I found interesting was this:
When EVERY test on the left spotlight is done, I hear a noise coming from the right spotlight. Like a high pitched whine.
When I test the right spotlight, ONLY the following tests make the noise:
- top left to top right
- top right to bottom right
- top left to center
Servo now suspect?
Working with JJP tech support. But with work, each iteration is 24 hours.

Quoted from Enchantress:

Haven't rolled ball one down playfield on new LE and noticed mylar coming off of drum sticks. Has anyone tried removing and coating sticks with a polyurethane?

Quoted from waltgman:

Just joined the club with LE #3639
Love the game so far but need to fix one issue. The left ramp entry micro switch part # 18-003003-00 had the metal tab break off it so it doesn't register.
What is the easiest way to order these? Do you need to get it through JJP?
Thanks!
Walt

Quoted from Vespula:

Are you calling the rose patch the Axl patch?
Also if you spot Axl I think this also stops the magnet same as if you get the rose patch, just not the whole game like rose.

Quoted from Trojanlaw:Does anyone know exactly what activates the AXL magnet? How do you know when it is active?
Thanks

Quoted from Dantesmark:

Ball from scoop was center draining… added 1 washer to each of the two left screws. Hits the tip of the left flipper.
Should i add another washer to each screw to get it to shoot more left?
I have tried multiple power adjustments to that coil… doesnt help.

Quoted from TicTacSeth:

Yeah, I’ll have to check the level again on it. I went a 6.5 pitch on it, sound right? The ball hasn’t looked off in general while playing, but I’ll check. It’s interesting yours goes to the right flipper, because I have to save it with the left! In fact, the only time I don’t have to save it is when there’s enough momentum for it to hit further into the left flipper and I let it dead bounce to, and immediately flip with the right!

Quoted from TicTacSeth:Well, it wasn’t bad, but there was a small adjustment. I still have to fight it because sometimes I can now barely tap it with the right flipper when it is up. Still, it regularly clears it all together, but I have a better shot at slap saving it. It’s most frustrating when a multi ball gets going (which is a lot) because a lot of them just drain through. Could the metal guide be bent on the right side where it comes out?

Quoted from mostater:

What flipper alignment do people have on their machines? This is how mine came. They seem a bit high to me but maybe they are meant to be??
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Quoted from screaminr:

Gotcha .

Quoted from Kerry_Richard:

Idea... instead of removing the head, simply remove it from the (2) head folding brackets. Then carefully rotate the head 90 degrees and take it thru doorway. I'm suggesting this be a 2 person project. Then reinstall the head back onto the brackets.
Kerry

Quoted from zaphX:

Those servos aren't that fragile, once upgraded. I haven't had a failure since doing it, TBH.
Remember these things are remote control servos, used for steering cars, planes, drones and so on.
They get a lot more "abuse" in those environments than moving around in the pin.

Quoted from Vespula:Fair point for sure. Also the moving contact points, arms/hinges all come lubricated from factory and during swap they become unlubricated. Super Lube up!

Quoted from Yoderboy:

Just wondering how everyone's left orbit feeds. On my machine the ball was hitting the top of the left sling so I adjusted the rail and now the ball goes sdtm unless I hold up the left flipper than I can catch it just barely. I cannot get the machine adjusted to where I don't have to flip when coming down the left orbit (frustrating). Wondering how other machine fed and if anyone had any tips for me.

Quoted from jonesjb:

Should there be a code update, I have a suggestion that I think may be well received. I'm sharing here to see what others think. The code change would be relatively simple and boost the risk/reward elements and allow the player to decide how multiball heavy they want their songs:
1. During a song, when the lit green center scoop shot is successfully made, rather than adding a multiball right away, the player would have 5 seconds to press and hold the action button
2a. Choosing to press-hold the action button would give a 5-10 second ball save, and BOOST the song level by and extra +10 (or +10%), or another suitable amount BUT not add a multiball.
2b. Choosing to not press-hold the button within 5 seconds would have the game add another ball for to the multiball.
Note, when there is one ball left, it would be similar, but quick pressing (but not holding) would collect the jackpot.
This allows the player to risk boosting the value of the jackpot with a higher song level OR play it safe and add more balls to play. What do others think?
Please thumb up if you like it, thumb down if you don't.

Quoted from andrewket:

JJP just reached out to see if I still want a replacement/spare CE playfield and I’m torn. I put myself on the waitlist over a year ago. Maybe two?
Main Playfield = $499.00 each
Upper Playfield = $119.00 each
Total = $618.00 each set plus shipping
They have the main playfield in stock. Upper by the end of the year.
My playfield has been holding up reasonably well. I would not do a PF swap in its current state. Way too much effort. But I’m toying with the idea of storing the spare as insurance. I’ve never sold a pin with a spare PF before. Will buyers find value in that? I have no plans to sell it anytime soon. I’m curious what the collective wisdom of the forum thinks…

Quoted from HornerSyndrome:

if you hit a clean left loop shot and then hold the right upper flipper does your ball consistently hit the coma target? Mine used to do this and now it hits just below it. I tried adjusting the flipper alignment but if I raise it up enough to hit the target then the ball hits the flipper tip even at rest and deflects it SDTM. I did move my machine and re-level it but seems like that slight a change wouldn’t effect the ball path that much on a fast shot but I’m not sure. Any ideas as I like the easiest hit on the coma target with the clean left loop shot? Thanks!

Quoted from RA77:

To rub salt into the wounds I have to pay for a part that was flawed to begin with and then spend another day changing it out.
How do I know that it won't happen again ?
Pretty piss poor form from JJP if you ask me.

Quoted from Ecw0930:

It's missing one flipper and one vuk.
Half the game? C'mon man.
The diverter to the U.P. is problematic and breaks. The sensors on the U.P. fail. And on the guitar neck as well.
The non playables, like the spotlights might as well not even be on the game. Not one game has had them working all the time.
My SE is missing a mini flipper and a vuk. Oh and missing that weird lock mech in the middle that has failing sensors. Definitely not half the game.
At least be honest about it

Quoted from mmuglia:

I have a collection of only 6 games, to include GnR LE, and it still gets very little play. Usually this is how it goes when I have friends over:
Friend: What game do you want to play?
Me: You're the guest, you pick.
Friend: Let's play Cirqus Voltaire.
Me: Sounds good.
A few hours go by and we've played every game multiple times, but GnR went untouched.
Friend: I'm getting ready to leave. Let's at least play one game on GnR.
Me: Let's do it.
Friend: This is a beautiful game, but it isn't much fun.
I have several different groups of friends that come to the house to play pinball, and this is pretty much what happens with all of them.
I am waiting for a good code update on this game, but I'm afraid it will never come. The layout is great, but the rules choke the fun right out of the game.

Quoted from Jaygee77:

Are there any downsides to the beta, from a mechanical/maintenance standpoint? I could envision a worst-case scenario where a setting is changed that increases coil power, shorting out the coil and creating extra maintenance work that I'm not readily equipped to perform.
In y'all's experience, is that a "thing"?

Quoted from SuperMas77:

Slash Solo appears to be different to me. After locking a ball in the guitar neck it then switched to shooting spinners instead of the record. I then drained out and didn't get to see what else changed.

Quoted from romulusx:

Does anyone know what triggers the divertor on the right ramp by the speaker stack?