I feel your pain. Mine was slightly different, it was the guide that rolls on the rail. Not sure how this happened, but the screw came out so the guide slipped off the rail. Highly encourage other owners to check their guides and screws. Mine got extremely lodged in the cabinet, took a scratching and quite some effort to get it out. Nothing mirror blades can’t cover up, but sucks nonetheless.

Be sure to check your screws, once I got it back on the rail, I found the culprit lying in the cab.

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Give it time. Not sure why you keep comparing it to AFM, you have 24 games in your collection, more than half of them are way more complicated than GNR. Like most games, it takes time to learn the shots, rules, and overall concept.

I’ve gotten the encore loop bug (once) on 1.14. No new songs, MR Brownstone has always been in the game. Adult mode maybe?

Where did you get it, straight from JJP? I got the freakin spaghetti incident - like why did they include that as one of the disc decals, it’s not even represented in the game. Weird.

Maybe a $1000 topper + you have to spell
S-P-A-G-H-E-T-T-I I-N-C-I-D-E-N-T to get the mode

Second this. 1.14 has been working great. Gonna wait this one out a bit.

1.14 > 1.18 WiFi update work yes or no?
Or should I not risk it and just go usb?
Or, should I just wait for 1.19?

These code updates coupled with a non working magnet have kind of taken the sails out of playing the game. Hoping to turn that around this weekend. First update code; second replace magnet coil.

Guess that answers my question. Waiting for 1.19. Thanks keefer!

Ditto. 1.14 > 1.19 WiFi less than 5 mins

Mine didn’t.

There’s a lot of bug fixes from 1.08 to 1.19. 1.16,1.17,1.18 seems to be an anomaly of bug gremlins multiplying, but 1.19 seems pretty solid and we get a new way to boost the power chord award. I say go for it.

Melissa has some awesome call outs!
Agree on the flipper rubbers. The flippers get more action than I think any other game so makes sense.

This is literally Me getting ready for a song mode...

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And then hitting the applause Jackpot and getting an encore...

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I think scorbit might be a bit buggy. I trued the QR code to load up my game, it shows my scores, but then just sits idle saying something like waiting to start game no matter how many games I start.

If you’re a big GNR fan, then it’s almost a no brainer. AIQ is very appealing, I ponder daily what game I can sell (Not GNR) to get one.

Personally, I feel GNR is one of the best pins ever made, but that doesn’t mean it’s for everyone. I don’t think you could go wrong with either decision to be honest. Getting an AIQ Premium could prove be easier and cheaper than going for GNRLE.

That gate is notorious for coming off.

Best mini pf in pinball.

Pirates is awesome. But a little too grindy for me.

Yes! I love the rescue castle pf. So fun and satisfying. It can get grindy like most mini pf’s which is why I still give GNR the crown.

All in all, I think JJP has the best mini pf’s around. (GNR, WOZ, and Pirates). They know how to do mini pf’s.

What about WWE!

Well, I take the whole design into consideration. But yes, ACNC is another great one and such a cool game too!

Coil settings > guitar locks > play with the speeds. I think I went down one notch on my left lock, but up one notch on the right.

Awesome GOTY video by JJP. Class! Who else celebrated with a game (or two or thirteen) on GNR!?!

Take a look at the keyed posts or search diverter in this thread. Here’s one recently that hopefully gets you on the right track.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-jjp-gnr-thread/page/150#post-6197319

Are the spinners supposed to light up? Or is it a reflection that causes the effect? I was listening to Eric’s interview on final round that just released this weekend, awesome interview btw - I’m only 30 mins in so far, and Eric talked about how he got lighted spinners in the game.

Got it! Just played a game and noticed it. Never noticed that before haha. Probably cause the game is so fast with lighting effects everywhere, blends in nicely.

Gotcha. I imagine the coil doesn’t work in test either? Have you checked connections of the coil? Maybe (hopefully) it’s something simple like the wire coming off the lug.

Pitch (I’m at 6.8 roughly) and playing with the VUK fire times helped me. Settings > coil settings.

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Recommended is 6.5. I have mine around 6.8 and love it. Karl with IE pinball has his around 7 deg and looks to play amazing on his streams. Both Karl and I readjusted the flippers to be parallel with the inlane guides so returns are smoother. I have my flipper power on the lower flippers +1 over factory. Upper right flipper defaults to a much lower power than the game initially shipped with so I have that around +6 or so of the new default setting.

Yes. You’ll have to play with the power settings when you get yours to find the sweet spot.

I find that very strange. It is hard to get booed off the stage especially if you’re making shots. There might be a setting to turn off the boo meter?

You can choose what song you play by hitting the action button before the song starts (when the big tank is on the screen and announcer is introducing GNR).

How easy/hard was it to replace? And/or did you just put it on top of the other decal?

LOL exactly and agreed. IMDN power jackpot and loop jackpot are similar. As painful as it might be, I would like to know... what could have been.

Patience is unlocked with one of the patches.

As for the magnet. It’s qualified quite often. Mainly at the beginning of the game when AXL lanes are flashing - loop shots activate it. Also, during most songs when AXL is the qualifying band member for frenzy. If it’s not going off during those times, chances are the thermal switch blew - possibly a hidden common problem unfortunately.

Think I caught a bug. Appetite and UYI-1 both 3+ mins played but not lit for the album mode. Am I missing something?

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JJP games are solid and packed. Only thing you really need is an external sub and call it a day.

TLDR: I think the bug is somewhere in Chinese Democracy album time accumulating. Patience has something to do with it as well.

It’s happened twice to me. The first time was about a week ago and Patience absolutely was involved. I had completed everything in the game except Chinese Democracy. I played the song and last 2:56 seconds (doh! Just short to light the album). On my last ball i decided to play patience since it accumulates all albums. I completed and cashed out, but Chinese Democracy album was not lit.

On this most recent occurrence; i had lit and played tear down the wall first, demolition derby second, Tour, slash solo. Then i played better in Chinese democracy and completed the time limit and cashed out - however, the album did not light. I then played It’s so easy on Appetite and failed just shy of the 3 minute mark and decided to play patience to boost it above 3 mins.

However, i just looked back at my screenshot and it shows that Chinese Democracy album only has 52secs, but I did play Better and an encore (cashed out after).

So all in all i think the bug lies somewhere within Chinese Democracy and not accumulating time? Which therein bugged Appetite for Destruction album mode.

I think it effects bonus score?

Oh chuck you can do better than that

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Bubble should be just touching 2nd line.

Cliff notes version:
Get multiball, don’t drain.

Not so much cliff notes version (i.e. the Long version):
The biggest thing is learning the objectives in the song modes and understanding how the inserts move. While each song is different from the next, the overall construct of rules are the same. The light show is HUGE so it can be a bit overwhelming at first.

I suggest starting with songs from use your illusion 2. They are the easiest to pick up and understand. ‘You could be mine’ and ‘civil war’ are really easy to pick up and run with but they are also the hardest to score in. I enjoy playing civil war because it’s all about the upper loop shot (+ 1 other shot is always lit to help).

Next learn band frenzy shots and how the inserts work on the revolver for them. If a band member insert on the revolver is flashing color, shoot that members shot to collect. Collected band members will be solid white on the insert revolver. Collect them all for band frenzy and the revolver will be going nuts with rainbow colors. Again, ‘you could be mine’ and ‘civil war’ are the best songs to learn this because the overall light show is easier to understand.

Once you got those concepts down, move onto other songs and start learning song mode objectives insert shots. It becomes easier and easier once you learn something less overwhelming like ‘you could be mine’ or ‘civil war’ as mentioned above.

All in all you have 4 objectives during a song:
1. Make song objective shots, light scoop green, shoot scoop and level up the song mode.
2. Collect band members and get band frenzy going.
3. Lock balls for power chord. Lock them all and get a power chord jackpot + add a ball.
4. Keep your crowd meter alive *cough* chuck *cough*. When a song is near the end you really want your crowd meter maxed so you can get an encore. Crowd meter increases by making any shots, lit shots boost it higher.

Next step, doing well:
The more balls and members you collect prior to starting a song, the more balls you start with and the longer your ball saver. So lock those balls!

Patches:
• Always always always get the fender patch, it helps collect members for band frenzy.
• Patches for scoring well: fender + band members
• Patches Wizard mode progression: sponsor patches, sunglasses (for tour multiball), album patches (mainly use your illusion 2 patch for its album mode - hardest album mode to complete).

Scoring vs. wizard mode:
• If you’re going for score and just want to have an absolute Adrenalin rushed risk/reward game, then never cash out of a song and go for encore/band frenzy.

• if you’re going for wizard mode progression, it’s all about those extra balls. when you have the option to cash out of a song, look at the mini LCD, it’ll tell you if you qualified the album mode. If so, cash out (this will light the extra ball). If it’s not complete, then keep playing the song.

Quick tip 1:
Use that power chord guitar lock to store balls and keep the playfield less cluttered to progress song objectives.

Quick tip 2:
If you’re down to one ball in a song mode near the end of the song, you can ‘cheat’ the applause jackpot by shooting scoop when it’s lit green and wait the full 10 seconds. If applause lights during the 10 seconds, it’ll give it to you.

Lastly: have a beer and rock on! Absolute Adrenalin risk/reward fun game.

See my previous post, but bubble touching 2nd line from bottom is a pretty good sweet spot for me.

I’m still on 1.19. Any reason to go to 1.21? I thought it was just enabling the option to join the beta team?

Also, what is super lock?

EDIT: never mind. Pretty sure that’s the power chord feature. Could be interesting to disable that timer
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Depends. Risk vs reward vs going for the wizard mode.

Give it some time to cook. It’s all about the risk v reward and doing side objectives to build and collect. The game can be played as a music pin (play songs) or traditional pin (boosters, build up, album, slash solo, tour). If you go the journey route you can still put up a big score, it just takes a bit longer. Keefer said scoring balances to album modes and slash solo is coming.

But there’s very many avenues to help build up that massive jackpot if that’s the route you want to go. Or, have some fun and shoot away, go for some power chord features (I’m really tempted to turn off the timer on that setting to see how the game plays - obviously easier, but maybe dial back the ball saver settings to compensate).

No jackpot collect or applause? I’m assuming applause is fair game? But safer route is Probably go the traditional pinball route. 4 booster patches and play those multi balls until tour multiball is lit and play it. You can get some serious jackpots from the boosters.

Let me give that challenge a try as I haven’t really played the booster patch strat yet and want to give it a go. I’ll get back to you...

In all honesty, getting 20 mil is no easy task in this game. You can get yourself quickly into a song and press your luck to try and get through 2 or 3 songs and collect each applause with encore (good luck!) and you might make 20 million. I think it comes down to patch selection, boosters, and how much you want to push for a larger jackpot score and song level. Personally, I think the best method is go for fender first to make sure you’ll get help with band frenzy. Then get boosters going to help with patch selection, collecting members, and ball locks. There’s 2 routes you can go - get the booster patches and maximize those multiballs and go into your song with a near maxed song level. Or, collect your band member and scoring patches (personally this is my strat as it helps get band frenzy going), plus vater and duff giving scoring boosters. I’ll probably also go for rose and patch and play welcome to the jungle. Or get the condom and go for rocket queen. Those are 2 songs that can get band frenzy’s going. Or I’ll get the airplane patch and go for live and let die for a quick encore and press my luck with don’t cry, November rain, or Double talking Jive. Shit, that’s like 4 or 5 strats to getting to 20 million and I’m not allowed to cash out and play the risk vs reward or play any other modes the game offers? Yea not so deep or is it Hahaha. And the game isn’t done! You should know better Chuck than to judge a game on early code.

Btw; scoring aside, have you played tear down the wall or shall we play a game? The other 2 album modes suck, but talk about pinball technique skill in wall and game album modes. Pretty wild. Can’t wait to see what keefer does about the scoring for those, as that I do agree.

Probably not early code haha. But there’s an entire mode not coded in. And keefer has acknowledged the scoring imbalances.

It’s not a ‘samey’ stern type of game. To me, it’s more of a ‘fun’ rockin game - hey it’s a music pin. I find games like AC/DC and JP more linear, but that’s me. I still think GOT and SW are some of the best strategy style games and You seem to like that more than fun, so this game might not suit your lineup. Not yet at least.

If you want to open the scoring depth up, see if the operator can adjust some settings. Increase power chord timer and reduce ball save timers. I just tried it, and seems pretty cool actually, game is less busy and now gives more meaning to power chord. Reduce some of the ball saver features to add risk since you’re adding another element of scoring with power chord. My best is around 12 mil I believe. Note: if you hit duff on the upper playfield, it’ll give you a power chord multiplier. I’m not sure if it maxes out, but it holds for the entire song - goes back to 1x after the song or encore.

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Been playing and tweaking around with my GNR all weekend and came up with quite a many of adjustments that I thought I’d share with the community. I’m really digging these settings so far, especially the software adjustments.

Pitch: raised from 6.8 to approx to 7.2. Bubble just under the 3rd line (see screenshot). This helps considerably with flipper snag plus the flow and speed is much better too. I believe this right around where Karl D’Angelo is at as well.

Flipper power: to compensate for the steep pitch...
Left flipper: 25
Right flipper: 29
Upper right: 20

Game settings:
Lights multiball qualifying: 3
GNR spellout for mystery: 10
Member max ball save: 10
Max song ball saver: 45
Super lock timeout (power chord): 25 - EDIT: I may bring this down to 20. Default is 15.

So these settings make the game harder in some areas, easier in others. It gives another choice in going for powerchord over other song objectives. It also slows down the chaos of multiball by allowing you to dump balls in the lock longer. However, to compensate for this, I reduced ball saver max time and harder to build it giving you more decisions to make.

Enjoy.
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Yea, that’s Melissa. She is awesome! Love her call outs.

13 mil in about one minute of play isn’t too shabby. Granted, it’s the first time I’ve ever completed the mode in about 50 attempts haha.

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I have a November build and the playfield has been holding up great. The clear washers are embedded with the clear, so they are not loose or tacky....well, I guess tacky is a matter of opinion but I don’t mind them LOL.

Add me to the list of overtightening and snapping the bolt. My distributor/JJP took care of me and sent out a couple replacements.

If I’m reading this correctly, you’ll have a ball in the shooter lane and if you let it sit idle, it’ll eventually auto plunge itself. May happen in 5 seconds, may do it in 30’seconds. If that’s it, check your wire harness for the skill shot sensors directly under the playfield. See if they are nicked (see my pic). If so, you’ll want to do 2 things. Reseat the harness at both connections. And if it’s nicked, get a replacement sent from your distributor/JJP.

If balls are just continuously auto firing, then it’s probably something else.

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Coil sleeves and probably a few coil stops. Replacement balls. Definitely some extra flipper rubbers.

The reason he asked is your pics are old, from an early production game when this was a known issue. No one is ignoring it, especially JJP, hence all the measures they took to correct it.

There’s a setting to enable start game with action button. Unfortunately, if you have that option on AND jukebox; the code doesn’t know how to handle it, so jukebox won’t work.

Strategically placed piece of drop dead ball foam

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Ugh that sucks. For those that have gotten replacements, are these an easy swap out?

That sucks. Definitely contact your distributor. I believe my distributor sent me a tech bulletin on flipper coil assembly screws about checking to be sure they were tightened on a certain batch of games (or something along those lines).

This is awesome. Can we get this post keyed?

This.
If you can backhand the left ramp you can really exploit the patch rules. Especially when the ramp diverter is up or on the SE where the ramp returns to the slower inlane allowing you to trap it on the left flipper. Rinse + repeat.

That looks great. Thanks for sharing. May have to try it this weekend (if I can remember too lol).

I agree. But once you start learning where the valuable information is; you can take quick glances (i.e. look for the revolver for band frenzy members). Which brings me to my next gripe, sometimes the revolver insert is hard to read on an active member that’s already been collected. Hard to tell if it’s white (collected) or not.

That said, I’ve had the game 6 months (wow 6 months went quick!) and I’m still trying to digest display information. But like others said, the small LCD seems to be where the best information lies.

I’m not saying it’s code or not code, but from my 15 years in the NIB pinball hobby, I have seen code and drivers fix many many many issues. It’s why I don’t like buying early, I don’t want to be the Guinnea pig, and I don’t believe that going through rules updates is a reward - it’s a curse to my pinball OCD.

So why do I have an early run GNR? Simple, timing. This hobby is all about timing (or deep pockets and endless space - which I have neither). Just before GNR was released, I was in the market for a new pin (or 2). I missed the JJPOTC boat and didn’t want that to happen again after seeing this release and having a hunch it was another JJP masterpiece.

Does any (pinball) company warranty second hand owners? I know stern doesn’t.

I’ll have to get back to you on this one when I have more time lol. But the short version is get the fender patch and as many band member patches as you can to help with band frenzy. Vater + Duff have scoring boosts associated to their patches. I believe band member patches add additional scoring when hitting their shots during band frenzy (unconfirmed); if so, Melissa’s candy is a valuable patch and so could Vater for ripping the spinner during frenzy.

Nice johnson controls background screen. Do you work for JCI or is that your BMS facility?

On sterns, lowering attenuation, increases volume.

I dug in deep on it years ago. But if memory serves, attenuation is the amount of resistance. So if you increase the attenuation or resistance, your tightening the tunnel that the sound can pass through. Lower the attenuation, and you’re increasing that size of the tunnel to allow more of.

Probably using the pin stadium before/after filter

Depends on the distributor really. It’s not one big line. It’s one line per distributor. So if you’re a day one order with a large distributor you could be in a line of 50 ppl and that distributor gets a bank of 5 games at a time. Or, if you bought with a small distributor you could be in a line of 10 getting 5 games per run. Now if you ordered straight from JJP, chances are you are in one big mofo line.

That’s a good question. I believe ‘before’ a song is started boosting band members increases ball save time to the max of 60 secs (default).

But during a song, if you hit the scoop for the next wave of shots, sometimes it gives a ball saver and sometimes it doesn’t. Curious if there’s a rhyme or reason to triggering that ball save.

What size washer? 7/8’’?

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My enthusiasm has deflated. I’ve had the game 6+ months and I went for nearly a month or more issue free. I was in the driver seat, loving this pin, still playing more than my others (Ended up selling IMDN the other week). But, then I got hit with the double whammy. Spotlight out (appears to be a servo - arm is in tact). While investigating the servo, I saw my playfield chipped at the GNR inlane post.

I haven’t played GNR in nearly 2 weeks. For some reason JJP still hasn’t sent out my replacement servo nor washers. They’ve been super fast on replacements up until this point - they’ve shipped me Flipper Pawls, coil sleeves, magnet, spring, wire harness, etc... all at a rapid pace (days). Now...nothing. Was hoping to have my game up and running for the 3-day weekend. Took action into my own hands to protect the pf and ordered the washers recommended here from pbl last weekend and Hope they get here today or tomorrow.

My distributor has been great. We discussed even selling the game back, but in the end, I’m going to stick this one out and try to get my game back to 100%. I have a replacement magnet I’m going to tackle this weekend, hopefully add washers and Mylar to chipped post and protect other posts. That just leaves the spotlight.

In any case, sorry for the rant but it is needed to lighten the load. Pinball, in general, relieves stress for me; not causes it (until now). So hopefully I’ll be back in the driver seat again.

Has anyone played with or tried tweaking their inner spinner ‘S’ shot that goes past the pops and up to the lanes? I’m trying to get it more consistent. There’s an adjustment screw next to the spinner that seems to help, I think pitch and flipper power play a key role as well. The lane guide under the ramp has adjustment screws as well but they seem like a pain to get to so haven’t got to play around with that guide so much.

Just curious if anyone else has OCD like me and has tried any other tweaks or experiments with more successful results.

For what it’s worth, Barry from JJP emailed me today regarding my claim. He said the washers will help prevent damage and making sure the posts are tight on the playfield will help as well.

Not sure who’s recommending those PETG washers but I got mine today to fix/repair/maintain my chipped post and there’s no way the PETG washer is a good solution, at least for the GNR inlane post. They are bulky! They will mess with the balls trajectory. This is not a fix IMO.

Luckily, I happened to find my clear silicone (titan?) washers that I had been looking for all week. The clear ones are small and don’t cover up the damage, but like my Deadpool chip, it’ll do the trick. I covered the damage with a small bit of Mylar first, then applied the post with the clear silicone. Before and after pictures below.

I’ll stick with this until JJP sends me the replacement washers which is going on 2+ weeks now and they still haven’t shipped them as of yesterday (ridiculous).

My wife came into the game room to check to see what I was doing. She knows nothing about pinball, except anytime I get a new game she gets an iWatch or iPhone haha. In any case I showed her what was going on with GNR and she saw and her first words were, ‘whoa! That’s bad business’. Right?

In any case as of now I’m ok with my maintenance fix for now and plan to play the snot out of this game and pray to the pinball gods it doesn’t get worse. I’ll keep you guys updated.

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Pinball OCD is the worst!
Good luck. I’m just happy I can play my GNR again. It’s been 2 weeks, it’s like I’m a virgin again

So you’re a shill and a purist

Here’s my 2 cents having just lived this playfield issue. I had my game for 6 months before it chipped. Had my Deadpool for over a year before it chipped. If you have a game that has no issues out of the box or after a couple months, it doesn’t make it immune. It might chip, it might not.

Once I fixed and secured my Deadpool chip, over a year ago, it hasn’t gotten worse nor has it bothered me one bit. Now that I have my GNR post safely secured, if it turns out like my Deadpool and doesn’t get worse, I’ll be happy and won’t bother me one bit. Game on!

Take that for what it’s worth. I’d say go for it but if you’re super anal and don’t want that issue hovering over your head or want to go through the extra measures to maintain it, then I’d say wait or even just pull the plug and get your money back.

Haven’t been able to play in weeks due to chipped post. But now that it’s fixed. Made some other tweaks (pitch adjustments), playing with a new strat (shirt + poster set to cradle more during songs), game is freaking bad ass. I am back baby!

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Who sells the Mylar rings?

Thanks ordered!

Yea I think 10 small will do the job. I ordered 10 medium too just to have as backup or any other future need.

Yea but look how thick that washer is. Going to mess with the ball trajectory. In a critical path of the game.

I think 1.14 was the good one where you can update via WiFi. Just make sure to keep the coin door open the whole time.

Now that I’m back to playing, thinking about code. Curious to see what Keefer does for album modes and slash solo. Hopefully some kind of reward, a dangling carrot so to speak, for completing them. I’d like to see the album level be boosted too if you make encore. One other thing I hope he codes in a longer delay on releasing powerchord locks, much like he put a delay on the shooter.

Anyone know what the band items do that appear to be hidden around the game? I’ve gotten antlers before from inner loop and I just got Duffs strap, I believe from the top lanes.

A few more rules ideas:

• completing an album should give 5-10 mil on top of what was earned in the mode. Plus, automatically lights next song. So player can choose to jump into another song, build their song ball saver, lock balls, or build the song level.

• Slash solo should be playing for an extra ball.

• Desert Demolition. I’d like to see something that incorporates the albums’ song shots:
Wave-1: double talking jive = spin the record
Wave-2: coma = hit coma target 5 times or one time off a right ramp - upper flipper combo.
Wave-3: don’t cry = 4 album targets + pyro
Wave-4: November rain = 60 switch hits
Final wave: live and let die = both ramps and finish the album on the center spinner with a live and let die power chord call out.

For the display, when you complete a wave, one of the DD racers crash and burns and adds to the completion jackpot.

Just having fun thinking out loud. Game is so good, I can play all day...oh wait I have been

I did some re-dialing in this weekend and currently loving the setup. Here’s some tips:

• bottom bumper: added a small piece of foam on the bumper skirt to prevent ball hang ups. (Sorry don’t have a pic at the moment).

• Pitch: I’m right above the 2nd line. I’ve tried many different pitch levels. I was at the 3rd line for quite awhile but found my loop/ramp combos were off and the inner spinner though the pops never worked. Where I’m at now seems like a real sweet spot. See pic below.
> hint: for playing with pitches get a couple identical hand towels and fold them different ways to add/subtract pitch levels and stick them under legs. Once you find a pitch your happy with, lock it in and remove the towels.

• inner spinner (through the pops): there’s an adjustable screw at the entrance of the inner spinner right at the JAM target. Loosen, then use your thumb / fingers on the middle of the ball guide to push in or out the guide to adjust the guide to your liking. Tighten the screw then test how consistent it makes it through the pops to the top lanes. Readjust as necessary. Keep in mind that shot is designed to go through the pops up to the lanes about 10% of the time. I’ve done a lot of adjusting and happy to be at around 15-20% success now. I have not played with the 2nd half of this shot - guide rail under the ramp > there is 2 adjustable screws for that guide but they seem to be a pain to get at.

• left loop ball guide exit. I used needle nose to ever so slightly bend the exit rail a hair so that returns would come to the flipper and not top of sling shot. May have to play with this one depending on your pitch so you can still combo the right ramp on the loop return.

• flipper power:
> right flipper +3
> left flipper +2
> up rt flipper I think I’m at 19’or 20. You’ll have to play with your own to your liking and consistency.

• other misc adjustments you probably don’t care about but including anyway:
> increased power chord lock time from 15 secs to 20 secs
> lowered song max ball saver time from 60 to 45 secs
> lowered band member ball saver increase time from 15 secs to 10 secs.
> increased # of letters to light mystery by I think 3 or 4. I think I need to spell out GNR completely.

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You can just press the action button when the song is starting (you get 3 seconds) and then pick whatever song you want. That’s what I do, No need to hit death targets.

I’d be curious to know how much too. It Didn’t seem to hinder my 250 mil GC

I’m sorry, I just couldn’t resist. This issue is making me hysterical, but it’s real.

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Thanks, I may give the PETG washers another go in this location since JJP doesn’t appear to be sending me their kit. Maybe they’re on low stock now haha.