I installed mine the other day, took about 2 hours total. Personally, I dig it!

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Do not install the metal washer

That is part of the problem the way the PETG solution solves. The PETG has flex, by adding the washer, you are spreading out the force over the PETG disc versus allowing it to slightly flex and float conically towards the ceter post hole. Look at my guide in the key posts for install. I have have mine with post to bare PETG for over 1400 plays now and no additional pooling. By putting multiple stacks of washer, PETG solutions, you are making the surface contact more rigid.

Start over. Iron it flat, remove the metal washer and use the PETG to post contact only. Snug but not overtightened.

What I started doing (and still doing lol) before even playing or any damage can occur, I started replacing all the high traffic posts that fit loosely in their holes with the Williams Bally posts that are a bit more beefier in conjunction with the PETG washers.
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Anyone hear of an ETA for the topper? Thought they said Aug/Sept. Well we're half way through that!

I think the Mylar would help to keep it from tearing. I doubt it will stop the pooling. But I agree that the pooling should be ironed flat or eventually it might tear or crack.

Does the LE topper do anything special? I haven’t been able to see a video of it

Didn’t see this item in your shop for some reason . Did I miss them ?

Disregard. Found on your website.

Not really...I believe it only lights up, but it looks cool and is relatively cheap.....

Good question....I haven't heard boo

It's only in pinmonk.com for now. It will get added here, too, but not for a little bit.

Can someone who has updated to 1.23 please tell me if you're able to increase the flipper powers up to 32? I'm on Beta build 10 or 11 and I can. But I heard on 1.22 they were capped at power level 20. I don't want to update if it's going to cap me at power level 20. This game play WAY better with those flippers cranked up. The flippers still feel nowhere near as good as Stern's flippers, but when they are cranked up to 30, at least they don't feel so soggy and mushy.

Thanks in advance!

This does seem like a good idea. I'll have to search for a link unless you have it handy? and wondering how many high traffic posts there are if I wanted to order them... hmmm, WWFFD? (What would fooflighter do?)

I'm on 1.23. I can increase flipper power up to 32, no problem at all.

Moderation notices serve as a reminder to me that there's no need to make a donation to Pinside at this time.

Another smooth, quick WiFi update today. This game is a beast! Still working on score consistency, I struggle with that the most. Load up boosters, load up on patches, sometimes I can get around 50 million on a song, other times it's a few million. Seems pretty random, in a way, yet there's got to be a formula. And if there is, it seems the formula for a high score changes or varies depending what song you're on.

In other news, Keith does intend to balance song and mode scoring, according to comments in the Beta chat.

So 1.23 lowered the flipper power? I updated yesterday and noticed the flippers seemed weak... figured it was normal and I was used to playing other games as I have not played GnR in a week or so. I was about to check the flipper mechs to see if they were worn.

Love it. Gets to the point where you don't want to click on the pm box.

I'm not a fan of moderation, either, but it's pretty much all that keeps this place from devolving into rec.games.pinball and people just leaving en masse because there's too much dick-measuring and non-pinball noise. So, a necessary evil, even if I don't deserve any of it (ha!).

I re-upped my pinside+ donation last week. Love it or hate it, there's no other resource like this out there for pinball. That's worthy of a few shekels a year to support.

I noticed some power drop and did a rebuild at 3200 plays. PinMonk's fans help a lot too.

Yes there have been times when i absolutely deserved pulling into gear.

Other times, not so much.

It's why i avoid PWD.

I remember reading that you did it that way, but I only had 2 left to do by the time I read it. So, this does make sense though. If you look at that picture closely you can see where the PETG is making contact near the post and then not making contact out near the rim. I don't really want to go through and remove all of the metal washers, but.... it's not that big of a task and I enjoy cleaning it (not that it needs it right now) so perhaps I will do more than just this one.

I'm tempted to just do the blow dryer to heat it up, but then how do I flatten it? With what? Suggestions?

What’s involved with a rebuild? Is it just coil sleeves and stops? Or is it the coil as well? Anything else?

EDIT: I’m finally noticing flipper fatigue on my right flipper with 1.23 code, never noticed it before. So may be time to order pinmonks fan kit. Or it’s time for a rebuild. I’m at 1200 plays.

I doubt you'd need a full rebuild at 1200.

Sleeves is what I do for interim refreshes. I don't even do the stops until it's time for a rebuild (plunger mushroomed, stop badly concave.)

A rebuild kit is new plungers/linkages, stops, sleeves and springs.

https://www.pinballlife.com/flipper-rebuild-kit-williamsbally-081993-101998-spooky-2014-present-jjp-2012-present.html

Cool thanks!
I only noticed it for the first time last night after a few games on 1.23. I forgot to check the power settings to see if something changed their with the new update. All in all, I’ll check the settings and look under the hood and probably order the flipper fans soon as well.

Pinmonk’s cooling fans make a noticeable difference!

Probably already asked and answered, but when does the JJP warranty begin? At date purchased, date received, when you fill out the game registration, or?

Asking for a friend (not on Pinside) who still has their game sitting NIB while they await the house they’re moving into, to be ready.

Thanks!

I’d like to see how Axl would have responded to the ridiculous ways I’ve been moderated, if it were him, lol!

Would love to post screen caps of the violations and their reasons, while others did worse in the same threads. I’m sure others can relate. It’s not balanced and often seems targeted.

Was curious what everyone’s favorite song to play was, surprised there’s not a topic and poll. Rocket Queen really gets me amped up!

Also badass is when multiball is going on a song and you just happen to have to hit the flippers at the exact same times the heavy beats are hitting, feels like you’re really part of the song.

I read the other day that someones daughter who's not a good player, plays My Michelle a lot. So i tried it out and enjoyed the shit out of it. Got applause jackpot, album mode, encore etc.

I like Coma for the light show as much as anything.

Wondering if there's a wat to lock a song out of play?

One of our Woopi Freeballers passed away last week and his name is up as Don't Cry champ. I'd like some way to keep it there.

I’d be more inclined if Pinside was a revenue stream for products I offer and sell here but I mainly provide them with content at no cost to them. It’s not that I don’t deserve moderation at times either, it’s mostly the hypocrisy of why they do it to me at times. I’ve wanted to kick in again but the last few moderations were out of line.

So to keep this thread on topic, regarding my donation status, “I’m gonna kick it on down the line” for now.

Couldn’t agree with this assessment any more!

Man that’s the first song I played on a GNR ever before mine arrived and it rarely comes up randomly so it’s been awhile but I’d have to put that right up there with Rocket Queen how it gets me amped!

Scared the shit out of you with a flashing pm light

Let's stop there.

I supported Pinside before pinmonk ever happened, because pinmonk was an accident not a mission. You are receiving value from pinside as a consumer of and participant in the community's content. Whether you value that enough to support it is a personal decision, but blaming non-support on moderation is a BS excuse, period.

And in case you were unaware, EVERY SALE pinmonk makes on pinside results in a piece of that sale going to pinside. THAT is the product revenue stream of pinside stores and vendors, not pinside plus.

Two different support points. One for users that value this place, and one for vendors that pay a bit when a product is bought. I support BOTH because I value the content and community (one year someone even gifted me a pinside plus, a nice surprise) and also have a store here now that pays pinside with every sale.

All of that said, this reminded me of the pinside+ I was gifted and how pleasant that unexpected gesture was, so I just paid that forward and you are now pinside+ for the next year.

Wish i could upvote that twice.

My first thought when I saw that was seriously "Great, I must have gotten moderated again!" Hilarious!

Pinmonk, my bad if I came across in a negative way towards you, I wasn't trying to make an issue with you.

I like, appreciate & respect what you do here. I just didn't feel inclined to re-up it right now with how BS the recent moderations were. It literally came down to that because I have been overdue, so to me it wasn't really a BS excuse. More of a principle thing. But thank you.

Applause jackpot & Encore.
Love this. Thanks for sharing PinMonk!
I just continued the pay it forward gesture...

No, I get it. I didn't take it personally at all. I just wanted to make it clear that my pinside+ support predated and has nothing to do with my pinmonk store here. I sell a lot more on pinmonk.com, actually, so it's not even a factor.

And the paying it forward probably has something to do with recently binging Ted Lasso. He's a very persuasive character.

On the DE GNR, you get Well Well Well My Michelle when you outlane drain. It’s painfully fitting because my ex’s name was Michelle. It’s like getting a knife to the gut when I drain. I’m going to avoid this song on JJP GNR

I've included that in this guide

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-jjp-gnr-thread/page/226#post-6338289

Hey while you're here, what are your thoughts on those posts? You think the bigger post that fill up the holes are a good idea?

Everybody get prepared I can hear Chaka typing his post now in the most juvenile fashion.

After a long wait it’s finally here!
Manufacturing date May 2021

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Congrats! Let the fun begin!!

Somebody say hole?

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Cool my 2 mates that were day 1 orders here got there's during the week too. I got feeling real guilty that mine has been here so long and they didn't get there's.

There'll be one on location in Coffs Harbour area as soon as the pubs open again (whenever the fuck that will be) for anyone who want's to play one. Probably go in The Hoey Moey i'd say with Led Zepplin.

Congrats mate! New Pin day for you!

Please let us know what you think of the game.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/119314

if i did not own one already , this would be mine even with the playfield issue / and only 2225 dollars more than that when brand new delivered to your door . Amazing it is not sold even with the PF problem. 500 and you can get a new one so whats the big deal other than the original owner could not get warranty help with playfield which to me is not cool .

Well, my thoughts would be any minimized lateral movement or rigidity in a hole would probably translate to less angled deflection of the post to the washer surface resulting in less downward force to the washer, and more ball kinetic energy transferred to the post and the more rigid hole. The question is, how are those posts secured in the hole... Screwed into the existing T nuts, you're still only translating a small portion of the bottom post to the hole, how much that is actually reducing stress on the washer is subject to counter sunk depth of the t post nut and whether or not the post is secured from below the playfield with an additional washer and lock nut.

This is just an approximate guess as I haven't altered my posts to test this theory... Although judging by JJP's elongated posts for securing the playfield from the bottom, I would say, the longer thread and washer nut securing below the playfield is more effective than larger posts.

The larger diameter posts that I'm currently using from the William Bally style are 1-7/8" Tall Metal Post With #10-32 thread for nylon nuts. These are the same length as the elongated posts for JJP. I'll try to report back when I finish the job and have enough plays on it. Only going to snug and and a hair more when tightening them.

Williams Bally:
https://www.pinballlife.com/1-78-tall-metal-post-with-10-32-threaded-base.html

JJP:
https://www.pinballlife.com/1-78-tall-metal-post-with-10-32-threaded-base-15430.html

Who is your distributor? I ordered Oct 2020 and still waiting.

So while they may not help, they won't hurt either. Great answer! Enjoyed reading that 3 times!

Time will tell.

This is going to be a tough one to measure if no pooling happens in both posts with petg washers snugged with similar amounts of torque we'll have to call it a wash. May the best post win.

LOL, We already there and the post is already removed so I figured what the hell... I do like that the barrel section of the post that goes into the playfield on the W/B has a bigger diameter. So if we can prevent incidental movement in anyway possible maybe that will help further, but time will tell. In the meantime we'll just enjoy this shit out of this game and if need be order a new playfield down the road when they become available if necessary and have it stripped and cleared again professionally. ( Just thinking worse case scenario here which may never happen "Hopefully" )