I used the metal washer on all of them that had metal washers. I am a but nervous about the torque and if I over torqued. I really did try to NOT over do it, but I think tomorrow I'm going to loosen them just a little.

Had to cut a couple of the washers but they fit great. Some lifting was happening back here so I wanted to get this done.

I thought I ordered too many washers, just to be safe. But I ended up using every last one of them.

There are probably half a dozen more I could do but they were too much work and I ran out of washers for now.

Thanks for all the advice and help!

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I'll probably go with a 5v. No reason not to in this application.

If they are individually addressable then this connector will be ok for lower. But where will they get data?

If they are no individually addressable then how would this connector work? I'll have to check out the strips and see what's up.

Thanks PinMonk for the link!

Switch was registering as stuck closed. Pyro target. (The playfield display is SO HELPFUL! It was calling it the lower bumper switch which was very misleading).

Had to notch this washer as well as the target was stuck on it.

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So you would recommend removing the factory washers (black and metal) and replacing with just clear PETG? I think that makes sense.

put a rubber on that inlane post, guys. barely makes any difference to gameplay, and you won't be hitting metal post with metal ball. that can't be good for the playfield. i put one on the upper playfield post, too.

Yes

Been great being a part of this group since December. I appreciate everyone’s help. Hopefully JJP will get this playfield quality under control some day!

Good luck and enjoy!!!

With newer build games, late June / July going forward, with the latest combination of black washers, longer posts, nuts, etc is it still necessary to remove the black washers and replace with PETG ones? We were hearing multiple reports of pooling / chipping with some April, May, and early June builds but that seems to have stopped completely with the latest build games.

well that just means that them new buyers know how to play the game better and did not destroy the playfields themselves per Mr Jersey Jack . Good buyers ,well done .

Speaking of settings, I’m trying this and enjoying it. Definitely for more above average players but:

• +5 sec band member increase to ball save
• 25 sec Max song ball save
• 25 (max) power chord timer - which is called super lock in settings.
> EDIT: changed this power chord timer to 22 secs. Fiddle to your liking.

Now if only we can convince keefer or Joe to give us waypoints that trigger a ball saver, like 5 song waves trigger 15 sec ball saver or something. I think some songs have this. Oh, and we need a longer ball save on the power chord jackpot.

Quick question, has anyone received replacement parts for the spotlights lately? Both of mine are broken and I keep getting told that there on back order for a few months.

I have a July build and I wouldn’t say the pooling is gone, it’s just not at the previous problem areas. I’m keeping an eye on the posts and adding PETG washers when I see pooling. There are just too many posts to get them all right away.

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This post and another one were my project for today. Unfortunately the other one is by the pops and under the upper play field and guitar lock and is a little too hard to get at today.

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Hi JJP owners,

I just received my Guns LE, I need an info that will make me keep or sell the game !

I love the game as much as I hate the multiple multiball!

How can the designers let that one slip?

It ruins the whole experience, instead of appreciating the masterful theme and layout…I’m always wathing 2 inches above the flippers for too many balls!!!!

Am I the only one complaining ? Are they gonna correct the code?

Or Might as well sell it?

Thx

Stef

Sell it if you don't understand it. They won't change the code to eliminate it, that would ruin it.

have not played my Game in like 3 weeks due to awaiting info on playfield warranty and ,should i or should i not put on protective washers . Anyway my first 3 games i did not achieve a multiball except maybe Pyro on one of them , After that i just Did a GC score and 14k Jackpot with Patience . The code seems very good to me right now aside from Desert demolition but love the game as is . Multiball = Broken . I can not say it is.

In home collections, it helps if the games are different from one another. It is unique in any collection due to the layout and play style. Multi-balls are GREAT, this just has more than most.

The artwork, lights, and music are some of the best of all-time.

See my comments a few posts above yours. In short, adjust the settings. Default settings are intended for location players.

I would only replace the Black if you didn't like the look... The JJP factory washers on black or clear seem to be the same material... I have not removed my original clear on my machine as they never were an issue.

Looks great! Please explain the breakout board and where to get one. I have all the listed parts in carts and that’s the last part that i need I think.

so whats the latest on playfields? still chipping? supposed to pick one up in a few weeks, im debating. mine is being built as we speak.

My opinion (which is admittedly unpopular):

Do not stress about this. Play your game and enjoy it as it comes from the factory.
If something chips, cover it and keep enjoying your game.
Take advantage of the playfield offer if you'd like to have iron-clad peace of mind.

It is a toy designed to bring game-playing enjoyment.

I am so much in agreement with zaphX here. Play it, and play its heart out. Just keep an eye out for your posts. If it chips, cover with a Mylar ring and JJP washer and move on.

But I’m enjoying looking at large box in my living room as I contemplate opening or selling it.

open it and play the crap out of it

You gotta open that puppy up and play it. I mean, if not, then why did you buy it in the first place?

I’ve accepted that it is was it is. Anyone who pays off the balance of their machine and takes delivery will need to accept that it will likely happen. It is a bad clear coat formula. They need to use more of Part B.

I could not agree more. I'm not into it being perfect. I'm into playing the mess out of one of the best games of all time, jamming to one of the best bands of all time, and having fun with my friends!

That's what it's about. Do the maintenance, keep it as good as possible. It's like a car.... If you take care of it, it will take care of you.

When I originally bought it, it didn’t come advertised with 6 hours of PF prep just to play it, JJP not backing their playfields & product, Jack blaming owners for chips, and Mirco threatening to sue people over a flawed PF’s. My 90’s pins definitely didn’t come with this esp my DE GNR. Knowing this advance, definitely wouldn’t have bought it. So haven’t decided yet, still weighing the pros/cons

I started off in agreement with you until JJP started the whole attitude thing and i realized that the 'fixes' aren't fixes.

It's a matter of time i think until the playfield has bare wood showing everywhere, i believe it will just keep spreading and there are enough posts now starting to show it spreading out from under larger washers for me to believe that it will keep going.

New playfield is just another piece of wood with faulty clear, it's not in any way iron-clad. It's the same as the piece of shit playfield we already have.

I like the vibe of the last several posts and I am in complete agreement! I’m taking delivery on Friday and I’m pretty pumped up to play the crap out of it. I am curious to see my build date and to see preventative measures taken. This is the first game I’m buying on complete hype and review. I hope it’s all what most of you’ve said it is. I remember before I bought Zelda breath of the wild for my switch there was all these amazing reviews and of course several negative nilley’s who’s thought it was tedious and made strong arguments. After playing the game to its conclusion I couldn’t disagree more with the negative nilly’s. I just hope it was worth selling my Dialed In for…

I’m still getting random auto launch’s, checked the harness and no nicks, reset all plugs on board and calibrated skill shot multiple times. Has anyone that has experienced this fixed it?

Agreed. This video is crazy.

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So basically you’d have to buy a new PF from JJP and then have Kruzman (or somebody else) clean & re-clear the PF. Getting a replacement with the same poor processes clear coat from Micro is a no go. You would never replace a PF unless you have 1000% assurance the clear isn’t going to fly away

I just had my eyes on a Aug 2021 build machine. They have removed all the metal washers from under their posts and used what I assume is PETG washers in clear and black on a few of the posts where they sit on the darker areas of the artwork. So maybe they already did the washer prep work for you now its just a matter of will it hold up now.

That is horrendous.

That’s kinda what I’m hoping. I’m in no rush to open or sell at this point. Probably gonna be staring at this box for a couple months and see how the new ones play out

Tomorrow?

Love this promo Dan!! Love your product as well. Can't wait to see what's coming.

Hopefully they make a pinsound competitor

I’m in the pissed off crowd and Id say open it and Jamb the Fuck out .It’s incredible ,I just look at it as If I don’t get square ,this will be my last JJP and couldn’t pick a better one.

Naw, we don't cross lanes unless there is a brake check!

Contemplating the irony of this... while you stare at your unopened GnR, I am impatiently wishing for the phone call..

GoT to have some fun with it!

Spaghetti73 ... Where did you get the red plastic protectors?

I know, right?

Put a deposit on a Multimorphic the other day and Gerry said 16 weeks. two days later someone posted that Cointaker has stock spare.

This was me (but with tattoos);

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That's fucking awesome!

Is it the secret I know Dan?

Naw, nobody can know about THAT secret! But, watch out for Drop Bears mate! Mrs. and I are still laughing about that.

If you are referring to the two main monitor links I posted - the first monitor is completely encased and you’ll have 2 cables that run under the apron. That’s the monitor I used.

The second monitor link is the same display, but the breakout board (the board with the power and video ports) is attached via a ribbon cable and can be mounted under the apron. I wouldn’t know which specific components you’ll need if you go this route - I just mentioned it was a possible alternate version.

The PF monitor I used has the breakout board attached to the monitor with double sided tape. I cut the double sided tape and mounted the breakout board under the apron using the ribbon cable extension.