Where is the eject speed to lower in the menu?

Ink jet printer on standard paper, with super glue applied via a brush.

Clear Gorilla double sided tape.

On the system menu:

SETTINGS -> COIL SETTINGS -> CENTER SCOOP

I forgot JJP is <100 numbers, unlike Stern which goes to 255, so you want to adjust 1-2 at a time until you get it right because each JJP single adjustment number = 8 Stern numbers.

*print on gloss paper, cut roughly down after print
*mylar that
*add 3M 467MP backing
*cut to fit
*peel and stick

Same process for replacing drop target stickers.

That would be best, but I just went with what I had on hand.

Thank you!

Great to see an Eric Meunier Collection. One day i will get myself an JJP POTC as well. Just hope the prices will go down a bit some day.

Lowering eject power didn’t help. I actually boosted it from 18 to 24 and it worked. Thanks again.

Love the look of these red drums.
I do think I would take off the mic because it is way out of scale for the drum set.
Who uses a mic that is as large as a bass drum? lol.

Is Encore good or bad? Should I be trying to collect the jackpot before it gets to that? I am a bit confused.

I made it through 3 songs to encore in my last game but not sure if that was good or bad and if I missed out on the song jackpots?

Encore is good. It starts the next song. Applause jackpot is worth more than cashing out your jackpot, so ideally increase your jackpot until the end of the song and collect applause jackpot. At that point if your rock meter is full it will start the encore.

Awesome thanks! I thought I was leaving millions of points of points on the table!

Oh wait. think I misunderstood. So I didn’t get the applause jackpot and it went to encore…shut down flippers and i had to relaunch. I assume I am missing out by not getting the applause jackpot?

Applause jackpot collects the song jackpot value. So if you miss that, you’re out of luck.

Encore is based on the skull rock meter on the right of display. If it’s maxed and rocking out with flames you’ll get to go into an encore song whether you collect applause or not.

It’s risk/reward. I played 3 songs in a row once from encore but didn’t collect a single applause jackpot so my score was very very low. Yes, you can cash out early as it’s the safe bet, but you lose out on points.

All in all the game is situational; the reward for continuing to go for encore’s is points. The reward for cashing out early can be extra balls, progression towards wizard mode, play some more of the side objectives, or rebuild your song level more adequately.

Ah yes! I went and checked it out inside the box. The speakers look hefty with nice big magnets and they were bigger than I thought they would be.

Then I noticed the screens were much smaller than the speaker. So like you said, it would be a drastically smaller speaker and you would lose the mid range in the process.

I thought about maybe angling the existing speakers towards the front at maybe 45° but then the bracket would be a little bit more difficult.

So I can kind of see why nobody has done this. Especially when you can just buy pinwoofer!

Thanks for the extra info! I had a feeling I blew it, I just wasn’t aware of the applause jackpot. I missed out on a LOT! Lesson learned. Lol

So I’m still having issues with the scoop not registering the ball half the time. I think it’s the cliffy causing the issue. Has anybody else dealt with this and can I simply adjust switch up higher, or do something else with the cliffy?

I don't think it's the Cliffy, especially if you removed the metal ring that was in there from the OEM protector.

The scoop detects the ball via a microswitch with an arm and a roller on the end. What I'd suggest:

- Go into switch test
- Press the arm down manually and see if it fires reliably, or is perhaps requiring too much "depth" to trigger (more than a ball would provide.)

The microswitch mounting may have a screw to adjust the angle of the switch body and aim the arm higher up to make it more sensitive.

That’s what I was wondering if the switch arm can adjust higher. I’ve fiddled with it all before and everything worked Greyson test mode with a ball, but now it’s acting up again. One guy mentioned before he thought the cliffy wasn’t letting the ball make perfect contact sometimes. It’s just odd that it’s so unpredictable and works sometimes and not others. I’ll look into the switch again and see if I can adjust it any higher. Thanks

Yeah, it can require plus or minus from where it ships. Glad you found the sweet spot!

My tech had to replace my scoop switch and modify the arm on the replacement. It would stop working, then start working by itself a couple days later only to stop again a few games later. It's been trouble free since replacement.

The Cliffy is around the rim of the playfield hole though, and the microswitch arm is in the bottom of the saucer. I don't see how they could conflict.

I have to give a plug for @PinMonk's revised Tibetan Breeze fans for GNR! I installed the new version tonight (it mounts to the flipper body rather than the coil stop) and man...I've missed having them. On my machine, flipper fade begins once you're into your first song multiball and it only gets worse from there.

These things are very worth it and the flippers remain consistent game after game. Most of you know I'm not much of a modder but I consider this one a must have.

The cliffy wraps down towards the front of the scoop hole. It does look like it could potentially hold the ball up a bit, but I don’t think it’s the cliffy per the other Pinside. I’m thinking the switch needs bent up, or if there is a screw that would adjust it higher for better ball contact. Again, test mode was perfect and I tested it probably 20+ times

Are these revised and new new versions or just the same GnR fans he always had since release?

Same as everyone had that bought them once I redesigned them. ZaphX got the V1 sets that weren't released except to testers. He hadn't seen the more reliable V2 ones I actually ended up going with until now.

I appreciate his endorsement, btw. He's seen quite a bit of the progression of the development process to get to the ones I sell now, and he plays the crap out of his GnR, so he knows about JJP fade.

Has anybody gotten their guns n roses SE legs & lockdown bar powder coated ? Im looking into changing the boring black but not sure what color would look good. That purple in the CE is bad ass. But not sure how it’ll look with the side art. If anybody has re-coated theirs can you post pictures so i can see how they look. Thanks in advance.

Have a look at this post

My cliffy didn’t sit flush with the inside front edge (closest to player) of the scoop. This prevented the ball from sitting all the way in the bottom of the scoop consistently which prevents the switch from being fully engaged. I removed the cliffy and bent that edge closer to 90 degrees so it was flush with the wood and this fixed the problem. I couldn’t bend it enough while installed, it had to come out for adjustment. So first thing to check is if the ball is fully bottoming out on even light rolls, if it does 100% of the time I’d move to the switch.

Did you find a way to remove that song?? I hate it also

That's funny because I love the guitar solo in "This I love." I absolutely cannot stand "My Michelle" and the song grades on me terribly. It never, ever gets selected or played. lol

Had same issue with cliffs, had to remove bend flat and re install. It’s not the switch

Don’t feel bad, I’ve played over 100 games and didn’t realize this. Took my high score from ~25m to ~80m last night after reading it. The applause jackpot must not stay lit for long. I can’t believe I hadn’t even accidentally gotten it before.

Regarding beta code, do you have to sign up for the JJP beta program to download beta code or is there just a toggle in the game menu to download beta code over WiFi?

Toggle on the game will present you with a beta agreement to join the beta program. You accept the agreement by hitting start. After that, the game will look to the beta channel for updates -- you will just update to the beta code from the same wifi update mechanism as before.

You can also see the JJP beta post for how to join the beta chat, if you're so inclined: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-open-beta-program

Lower middle of the left is my experience and what I seem to see on stream. It should be dead pass-able.

I had to adjust mine cause it was shooting towards the middle and you had to flip or drain.

This is a game changer…….I had no idea!!

i tried it. you have to HOLD it in for a few seconds, but it does indeed work! I smiled.

Thank you! That was easy to do

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… I don’t remember who was the one who wrote us that option a few days back here in our thread. I’m just sharing the happiness that I got when I learned that here

So, I just want to say "Thanks again!" to the one that posted that!

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If it's not the cliffy, try this as I was getting issues out the box.
I fixed my one easily enough:-

https://www.pinballinfo.com/community/threads/new-jjp-pin-jjp-gnr-pinball.47434/page-81#post-413096

Has anyone found a solid solution for keeping the ball from getting stuck in the pop bumpers? I've been trying to find the posts outlining this potential fix, but I can not track them down.

I just used a couple of triangle shaped pieces of mylar, pretty much invisible, and if it does comne to rest there a nudge will get it out. Search my posts and there is a picture of it.

I noticed some micro power-cut on the left flipper during some games. When I tried to diagnose in the test menu all was fine.
Is anyone else experiencing the same behavior ?

Check your flipper switch contacts. Probably not solid and barely losing contact intermittently.

Where can we find info on these and maybe a simple instruction (to see if it is over my head/capability). Lol

The installation instructions are very easy, and step-by-step with illustrations (see lowered res example from front page of instructions below). The kits are available on pinmonk.com and here in my pinside store, too.

pinmonk.com:
https://pinmonk.com/products/tibetan-breeze-jjp-pin-3-flipper-cooling-kit

pinside:
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1170-pin-monk/05152-tibetan-breeze-jjp-guns-n-roses-3-flipper-cooling-kit

The v2 brackets look different from the ones in the product photos since they mount from the side now. I haven't had time to re-photograph them. They look like the illustrations in the instructions now.
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Perfect. Thank you