Well. I give up. What the fuck. How do I update to the new beta? Never had a problem updating via WiFi before. I’ve tried it four times now. Twice with coin door open. Twice with it closed.

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Please try a few more times. ( you do have 1.22 in it ? )

LTG : )

Yes I have 1.22 in it.

I hope that you got it now NightTrain, I was able in the second time,
Tried 1st with door open but appeared "Failed to Verify", then 2nd time with the door closed and it was done after 15-18 minutes(When it was around 80% it was stuck for a few minutes so I just turned On Wizard of OZ and played while waiting )…

Desert Demolition was fine, I was expecting different/better music while racing with the monsters but that’s a good start for that mode I guess……
I was able to score 4 Million, and put my Grandmother’s name in the score(Always honor her and my beloved Father)

Cheers fellas

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Looks great, but I wish they'd do those supports with polycarbonate. The black drives me nuts, and clear polycarbonate would blend a lot better on almost any wall.

The clear might reflect too much light ?

No I haven't. I've tried four times now. Now sure why it would take even more than one time. I'm not a guy with a lot of free time on my hands. It takes over an hour for this to download, so I can only really try it once a day. I'd rather be playing the game during that hour.

JJP really needs to iron out this wifi updating issue. I bet there are 10-15 pages in this thread about people having issues updating their games. It's a simple wifi software update for crying out loud. This isn't new innovative stuff. This is old technology. The rest of the world has been doing this for years.

Man oh man - just wait until you get into some game play - have fun!

https://pinwoofer.com/pinwoofer-gt-8in-jjp-super-kit/

added my Undercab and Backbox lights connected with the hotrails

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AkAHEzqX5pMugZBDmwr34WdGiO_Z7g

Works great

Has anyone experienced what seems to be sporadic auto plunge to start the next players ball even with the setting on never? The action button and flipper plunge settings are off as well. Running v 1.22

You need to go into settings and recalibrate those roll over lane sensors. It happens all the time. Another cute idea from JJP that doesn’t work well. Cool idea. Bad design.

Yep I am also getting that so annoying as you step away for a sip of beer and it plunges...

Thanks, I’ll do that. All the time???? That can really screw up league play for sure!!

Ya I spilled a beer trying to get it back in the pinbulp in time! Not sure which was worse…. Loosing the ball or loosing a frosty Delicious IPA!

Yes. Happens every once in awhile. Check your sensor harness under the playfield. See if it’s perfectly nicked like the pic below. You may need a new harness - I’m on my 3rd and suspect it gets nicked when lifting the pf or putting it back.

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Will do!

Yes it's incredibly annoying. I remember showing my dad those the first time he played the game and telling them how cool they were. After a few games, it would auto plunge, so I'd go in an recalibrate them like I normally had to. He just looked at me, shook his head, and said "yeah....real cool..."

Lol!

Flippin awesome!
Definitely on my to do list
Easy?

Got shipping notification for a December LE purchase.

Exciting! Your order must be through a distributor....
Can't wait to get mine!

Thanks for the heads up. Will check that area out on my game before I even play it, may put some electrical tape on that side or something.

It could be frosted if that's a problem, or the backside of the tubes could have a black coating sprayed on. Either would be less visually annoying than the black cage that seems to be the standard.

What is everyone doing to prevent wear around the buttons for the flippers?

It's worth the time and Money. Parts are around $80

It's easy and you only Need to solder the Led Stripes and for the Rest y-splitters and some t-clamps.

Took me about 2 hours

Lexan protctors - cheap and Holding with the Flipper around

https://www.pinballshop.nl/cabinet-parts/protectors/cabinet-protector-for-williams-pinball-machines-transparant/

I have a spare if you're interested

It’s quite bizarre, so curious what other owners find. For me, once I noticed the nick in the harness the first time, I figured it came like that from factory. JJP sent me a new one, I replaced it, all was good. Then a couple months later I got a random auto ball launch, and then another, and was like wtf? Sure enough, the new harness had the same exact nick in it, but much more minor. JJP sent me out another new one which I haven’t replaced yet, but may do that this weekend since I got another auto plunge the other night.

Anyone know what the ‘fog’ insert represents on the mini pf?

Shooter lane gate issue

Can someone post a picture of the shooter lane gate.... when it auto plunges the ball, the ball passes through the gate and when it travels back hits the flap bounces back up slightly the flap opens and then the ball goes back into the shooter lane. This happens multiple times during a game. To me the ball is hitting the metal and not the blue rubber... is this peel and stick? Can I move it lower on the gate to stop this issue?

Yeah I'd like to know also

You need to remove gate and add 2 washers to slightly lower it and the issue will be gone. Several have posted this fix in the thread.

I second this.

I was having this intermittent issue for months. Tried everything to fix it, eventually replacing both trough boards, which seemed to fix it. However, during my last game it did the same thing one time, which makes me think it could be something else now. I'll definitely be looking at the wiring harness now though, this makes total sense!

What I guess I don't understand is I've been working with Ken from JJP for months trying to troubleshoot this issue and not once has he mentioned the wiring harness being a potential problem. Feels like Pinside is more in the know than the damn manufacturers!

I had the same shooter lane auto fire issue.
My problem was solved after I opened the metal box in the backbox. I reseated most connectors. I pushed back in it’s port a USB cable. The difference was 1 or 2 mm, but that seemed to fix it.

Any CE owners installed Pinwoofer kits? Is it needed?

It is a HUGE improvement. Even though you disconnect the soundbar you will never miss it. Great bass increase but the clarity and sharpness the new tweeters bring is the biggest improvement.

You can’t leave the sound bar connected?

Thanks to Pinhead1982 for posting and sharing this alternative post idea.

I have a brand new July build with the updated longer posts + black washers + nylon nuts. Reports of playfield issues on the latest builds have dropped heavily. Would anyone recommend swapping the posts for this one on the latest builds? I assume I could then just get rid of the black washers?

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Those better looking posts still pooled on my Wonka and still need washers IMO. You could just use the Pinball Life silicone ones. The replacement posts are better than the factory posts but don’t solve the issues of the really problematic high impact t-nut posts in the pops and upper PF. The replaced posts in the inlanes aren’t really high impact.

I’ll start off by saying I do not consider myself very good at pinball, especially this game. But today I finally heeded advice from this forum and adjusted my flippers to run perfectly parallel with the guides. It was really only my right flipper that needed the slightest adjustment. Now I am hitting that left ramp on demand. Previously I would brick more ramp shots than I’d make. Now I am making it MUCH more often.

First three games after the adjustment I broke my previous high score each time. All games over 40 million. In my third game I was one mode away from Not in this Lifetime.

I wish I did this sooner. Hopefully everyone that has a hard time scoring takes a look at their flippers. My right flipper is now pointing at the top of of the skeleton knuckle

Just remove the posts completely if you can mate. No post = no pooling. That is the plan for pur Gunners when we get it.

I had this exact issue the other day and couldn’t figure out what was causing it. Same thing, reseated that connector and the problem disappeared. I will check it for nicked up wires.

Left flipper failed mid game ..... after only about 20 plays.... screws or should I stay screw backed out of the coil stop. I'm guessing they forgot to put 2 in because I looked everywhere in the cabinet and could only find 1....but I was able to fix the shoot lane

You can but it will muddle the sound because you can’t replace the tweeters in the sound bar. I promise you will not miss it. Sound is louder and clearer even without it.

There was two. They buy assembled flipper units ( like other manufacturer using the same thing ) and install them. It came loose somewhere along the way. Though you may not find it.

You can find it at ACE Hardware stores as well as others. Allen head 10/32. Check your other one for length.

LTG : )

Updating code?
Is this door open/closed thing a red herring?
I just unboxed my LE on Friday after being sat a week due to work commitments, connected to WiFi - shut the coin door did the update to latest in a matter of minutes.

I’m not flipping a single ball until I install all my Cliffy’s and a couple of bigger posts.
Been in jukebox mode though..... can’t wait

I got this after unboxing:-
Think it was due to the Sculpt packing foam putting long term pressure on the gate / switch forcing it up closed:
Fixed by bending the gate down.
Hope this helps anyone else.

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Does anyone have pics of these art blades installed on a LE? Sorry if it's been posted, I scanned but couldn't find a pic! These look awesome though before installation!