The way you try to identify a problem , and the cause , and go through it step by step , is the best I've seen .
You explain yourself so well , even a simpleton like me is able to understand

1 fast and the other still on. If I remove the ethernet cable from the piano sensors than 1 fast and 1 slower.

I remove 1 by 1 the ethernet cables, its the piano one that's react weird. If I left it out, the skillshot sensors are back activated.
The guitar sensors still nothing.

Different machine and different opto switches, but I’ve had bad opto switches that triggered on vibrations before (trough eject, flippers, even my subwoofer going off). In my case, reseating connectors, repositioning the switches, etc. didn’t work - it was just a sign that the switch went bad. Bought a new one, replaced it, worked like a charm.

How about the hotrails and the spotlights? Do they work? (Try both with and without the keyboard sensor cable plugged in)

The smack-the-playfield-with-the-heel-of-your-hand-in-switch-test idea is always a good one. (The latest versions include being able to use the shaker to do the vibrations for you, saving you wear and tear on the heel of your hand!) If that triggers the keyboard sensors, then see if wiggling connectors on that board directly has the same result. Badly crimped wires or damaged contact pins in the connector are not unheard of, but any of a million other more obscure possibilities. If none of that is it, go into sensor test and see if wiggling things does it, see how close you have to get a ball up top to each sensor for it trigger, etc. Possibly there's some debris trapped between the sensor board and the insert? Or grunge on the underside of the insert?

I ordered in October and am receiving mine Thursday June 24 (Player One). First NIB ( Dozens of Notsonew since 1976) Hallelujah!

Thanks guys! Yeah, I need to stop being so lazy, and troubleshoot a bit more to rule out the obvious stuff… Pinside is such a good resource, sometimes I bypass the basics.

fooflighter Any chance you had the time to see what was in those kits JJP sent? I'm just so very curious...

Finally in, had to go to the terminal because they’ve botched the delivery day since Friday but it’s here, looks flawless, June 2021 LE ordered direct from JJP on 10/9 around 10am.

No issues at all inside or out all around, plugged it in and playing it without doing anything at all to it. What a blast, this is how a game should be enjoyed!

May 21, 2021 playfield stamp.

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It came with those black washers from the factory?

Just on the 3 posts w/ the biggest potential for problems - upper playfield and by AXL and I also noticed them by the outlanes.

Just got it today actually...Sorry no photos but I broke my phone camera lens yesterday

It was 3 posts, including nuts and black washers...I'm assuming they are for the 2 posts near the AXL lanes and the one by the AMP GNR Lanes...I think they may be longer. There were also black washers with notches in them for the metal fence proximity to the inlane post.

The other part of the kit was repacement posts and clear washers for the slings. Mine already came installed with and have never been an issue in that area.

So it seems like an interim type kit as the new ones going out already have all the fixes. I may take the posts out and replace them but I've got everything else already covered.

The kit fooflighter mentions above seems to describe the way the one is built with as of June 2021. I missed the inlane posts with my previous answer, the black washers are there too.

Thanks sevenrites for the detailed post! This is super encouraging for those of us still waiting and knowing the issues seemed addressed.

Good to see JJP is tracking solutions from the community and implementing them.

Personally, I like the black washer look.

I had some pooling around the black washer on the inlane post. Happened after 175 plays or so. I took it off and ironed it out with a friend of mine. Looks fine now. You still need to keep an eye on those same problem spots unfortunately.

Who is the best person to contact at JJp for problems?

I’m pretty sure the official answer is to go to their website and open a trouble ticket.

Done everything, no response. JJp, dealer.
In the meantime, the pin is not playable.

Time zone difference with the US doesn't help, of course. Did you ever try seeing if the spotlights and the hotrails work?

Just curious, what is your games build date and did JJP include the longer post that goes through the t-nut with a nylon nut for the one that pooled? JJP now seems to be installing the black washers + longer posts with a nylon nut. For a time there seemed to be games with no washers on the problem posts, then washers but no nylon nut on back, and now washer + longer posts + nylon nut. It's hard to keep up with all of the different combination of "fixes".

I believe Barry? Was the name he's in charge of all the issues.
Just call JJP and ask

Those don't work. If I remove the internet cable from the sensors of the piano, they work again.

Well at the very least it sounds like the piano light/sensor board is bad (or less likely, something is wrong with the power connector to it or something.) Hopefully Barry can get you one of those quickly. Does everything else work if you unplug that? That would at least get your game playing, more or less. You'd have to collect those two band members other ways, like having them auto-spotted on ball 2 or 3...

I was really looking forward to this topper .
The jjp one is very simple and is a great price but I was hoping for something a bit more dynamic .
I thought this would be the one , mid-range and would cover all the bases , but to me it just looks very flat , the art looks good , the sculpt looks good , I like the lights , but it just doesn't look like a stage and the lights should be red , yellow and green like the GNR colors . At around 1500 aud dilvered , it's expensive for what it is .
Liors topper will probably be great , but at almost rumoured 3,000 aud , I'm not sure I can justify that .
I think I might go down the track of making my own topper , there are quite a few neon Guns N Roses signs and you can get some articulating spotlights which will cost you way less .

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I got my kit too. Not 100% sure where the three longer posts are meant to go. Was surprised to see no paperwork in the box telling you where to put them. Like you said, I'm guessing the AXL lanes (2) and then the third could either go on the upper playfield or by the left inlane. I've never seem a "fix" sent out without instructions. Very odd.

Likely upper PF, left inlane, left AXL lane.

Anyone know where I can find the playfield /vinyl repair irons? I'm in Australia. Looks like it might be a worthwhile piece of kit moving forward.

Upper playfield and two posts by the Axl lanes. They are meant for the T-nuts. Mine came like this. The other posts already go through the playfield.

I'm a May build date. It came with longer posts through the T-nuts on upper playfield and by the Axl lanes. It also had a black washer on the inlane post. It looks like this latest batch has black washers everywhere - upper playfield, by axl lanes, outlanes, etc. The inlane post goes through the playfield with a nylon nut. My pooling was around the black washer that it came with. The ironing got it back to looking normal. Hopefully its a permanent fix. I will say that the clear is very soft. Even moving the outlane posts - you have to be careful not to overtighten. It feels like you can just keep tightening. It doesn't come to a hard stop like you would think.

Thank you very much!

I like this neon sign as well but when I looked into in, the shipping was the same as the cost of the sign to North America. Otherwise I would likely buy a couple.

Keefer mentioned on tilt in March more code is coming. He is aware of the scoring imbalances as well.

Let’s hope he follows up, I hate playing the album modes, worthless.

I think if you lock 6 balls the song will start automatically even if you don't have all the band members spotted. I think I have done this a couple of times after playing a few songs because it becomes very hard to get enough Duff ramps. So I just lock balls instead and the song starts...

The only other way to spot members (besides loosing a ball) is to spell JAM and then hit the JAM target. If you get the bandana patch it will increase the Jam hurry up timer, which might be helpful.

Contact Yelobird about what he used. It's in one of these threads. Low power wood burning flat tip looking thing.

LTG : )

Please open another ticket and explain the issue about no response.

LTG : )

Yelobird used the iron from this kit, which I bought through Advance Auto. Hopefully easily sourced for you!

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There's two on Ebay Australia right now with shipping from the US. Got a friend who needs one, too?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142174951528

Here's a single one shipping from the US:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/154406663599

I’d be very careful trying to use those in Australia without a step down transformer. Given that it’s designed for 120v, plugging it in 230v is likely to result in a very hot iron.

I can still remember an American I was travelling with years ago having her hair partially fall out as she plugged her hair straighteners into 230v in Italy.

I'm assuming the user understands about step-down transformers for non-AUS products, but good to point that out.

I believe I saw that someone else had used a heat gun to warm the bottom of small, flat metal measuring cup or something like that. Then applied that to the pf. I think the claim was that there was a little more control of the heat doing it that way and slightly better coverage, too. I don't recall all the details, but it's buried in a post somewhere, maybe in a different thread.

Not sure if you have Clark Rubber in Melbourne ,, good place to start

Well I think it is going to be a good rest of the week. I pick up my GnR tomorrow and Friday my corvette gets built (ordered in Nov 19). I was bummed out today because my beloved Naso Tang died. I cant believe how attached I get to fish.......

My Dayne Henry Jr print came in.

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The blue cable/plug that comes out of the topper/Sound bar, Where does that plug into?
It's connected to a small row of RGB's.

Cheers,

You clearly haven’t meet many Australians

Or maybe I've only met the "good" ones...

You don’t need the vinyl iron to level the pooling. I used a standard heat gun on the low setting. i am sure a hair dryer could even work. It takes surprisingly little heat to get it to level. You could actually see it going back to its original level when I did it and I also used a smooth ended socket extension to help the last bit level out with very little pressure. Just go slow and pay attention to what’s going on.

Just for kicks I bought the vinyl iron too and gave it a try on another post location. You don’t really need to put much pressure on it and once it’s hot I would not leave it on the playfield for more than 3ish seconds. It’s gets pretty hot. I did prefer to see what’s going on with the clear when using the heat gun but this worked well for the pop bumper post under the drum stick ramp. Did not want to get heat anywhere near that ramp. The iron was easy to get under it when partially removed.

Anyone know what the Fog switch does on the upper playfield?

I’m still looking for the Special

For those that bought mirror blades that fit perfect, where did you buy them?

I added a Polk subwoofer yesterday and wow what a difference!