Mezel mods has it. $100
No adhesive and from pinball universe....
I haven't seen one post on this. Puzzled. If I'm going to the trouble to fix problem areas, why not preserve the entire playfield. Europe it's common. Germans all doing it. The logical side of my brain needs some understanding why this isn't a USA pinhead standard equipment. It's the European side of my bloodline I guess. Is it truly overkill? Why isn't fooflighter doing it? If anyone was going to do this I would think it would be him. . Have to see why he isn't...

https://mezelmods.com/collections/guns-n-roses-jersey-jack-pinball/products/pinball-playfield-protectors-guns-n-roses

I did it on my EHoH as the VUK throws the ball across the playfield. I think it's overkill on most pins however. In the case of GnR, it won't help the post issues since it only lays down over/around the posts. The downsides are 1) you have to remove quite a few top side components in order to drop it into place (EHoH required removal of both ramps, all gates, spinner, the main house and several plastics), 2) some people notice the slight change of the ball sliding on occasion vs rolling, 3) the additional cost and 4) you have to keep fresh balls in the game as the PF protector will scratch if not.

I have seen enough weird pin hacks in reimports from Europe to last a lifetime, so if Europe's doing it to a pin, that's a warning sign for me.

The playfield protectors change the way the pin plays in a lot of cases, and is like your grandma putting protective plastic on furniture - why, when furniture is meant to be enjoyed, not entombed in plastic.

Clearcoat and wax should be good enough, and is for most cases. It sounds like the specific areas of jjGnR with issues are getting solutions with post sleeves and locking nuts and mylar and petg and whatnot, which is the way I will go, too. That way I can enjoy the pin the way Hogbog intended. I feel like full playfield plastic sheeting makes him sad.

I wish I had a GnR that I could complain about, heh. Counting down the months before mine arrives…

I heard that Pingraffix is going to release pinblades July 4th 2021 you may want to wait to see these.... I hear they are something special...

Where did you hear this?

This reply is really appreciated and also appeals to the logical side of my brain. Thank you.

Great feedback. Thanks so much!

I hear things.........Its nice having important friends.

All my friends are important.

Damn right, my friends are the family I chose.

Cut to 11 months from now when giant chunks in the center of the playfield are separating from long-term play and vibration Bader-style and opinions take a hard right...

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Good to see US games making it out again. Which distributor received inventory? I need to check in with mine.

Congrats. And a nice start!
Order date and disty/direct?
I'll guess disty and ordered October 9th

Eight short months later…

(Actually received Tuesday, finally had time to set it up today.)

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I sometimes sell games into Europe from Dubai, the first question I get from buyers is 'does it have a playfield protector?' Second question is 'does it have convulux?'

For some reason they love them. Personally, I think they're huge overkill for a HUO game and they change the dynamics of the ball. I bought a WOZ from Europe with a protector fitted - I'll be removing it because it plays horribly. Also no good for games with roll overs because they get jammed up against the protector. Maybe a good idea for a routed game but that's it.

Best pic ever! Dream team. How will you ever want to play the DE again? I played DE on location prior to jjgnr coming out and still loved it but things have changed somewhat....
Its always going to have that nostalgic charm and great memories but since the jjgnr came out it's showing it's age and I smile as I walk by it down memory lane on the way to the jjgnr.

It's what you're around when you come into the hobby I guess. But there are a LOT of weird ideas in Europe about acceptable hacks to a pin. So much Bally/Williams carnage has come across my plate via reimports. But hey, it's their pin, they can do what they want. My job is just to put some opposing weight on the scales of the conversation to maybe keep the solutions limited to "address just the problem, keep cleaned and waxed" and leave the plastic sheets for a sad, dated Florida couch somewhere instead.

Local distributor. Ordered early Oct.

Love this game

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Awesome. I have mine set up in a similar way.

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Friends in low places, hmmm? Well, I hope it's rigjt because the existing side blades suck. I've been considering mirror blades, but I much prefer graphics...

You wont be disappointed.

Play field protectors are an embarrassment

I went with bookend GnRs

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t consumer protection laws in many European countries put the onus of replacements/returns on the distributor if problems arise?

If that’s the case and I was a distributor there, I’d be covering the playfield in Kevlar

Congrats on the game! I’m waiting for my distro to receive inventory. Hopefully soon now that they are shipping US again.

Right, in Europe warranty is not only a statement by the manufacturer, which could freely include things or not.
It is law, that the direct contract partner (distributor) must repair the product if problems arise or replace the product. He is responsible at first, not the manufacturer. If repair isn’t possible you could get your money back. And you have a 14 day money back guarantee for all online orders.

I was just notified that mine is shipping in 30 days… pinball star is the distributor, and ordered on 10/7.

Great line-up! I have 4/6. How do you like the LZ? I have played the pro but kind of found it boring.

I also received notification that my game is ready to ship. Are you having the same reservations about accepting a game with the potential for playfield issues? I'm really torn because I absolutely love the gameplay!

Like it a lot. It helps when you know the rules.

Sure seems like they are favoring disty orders! Then again JJP direct is probably the longest line and the slowest way to order but the most profit for JJP, So you think that would count for something.

Are you helpless in repairs and unable to do the work discussed in the key post by fooflighter? If so, you might cancel.

Not helpless, no. It's just that I have this absurd notion that when I drop 10k for an elaborate toy, I'm going to be able to play the game instead of shutting it down for an extended period of time to iron a pooled playfield and install additional washers. Out-of-the-box adjustments are one thing, but I'm not eager to invest time in a machine to address aesthetic issues on a brand new game.

Then I think you're in a great position to take the game. Latest ones seem to have some modifications indicating positive changes are happening at JJP. I understand what you're saying and everyone here agrees with you, but it is what it is. Accept the shipment and enjoy the best pin ever made!!!

I agree with Vespula - take 30 minutes to do some preventative measures, then enjoy one of the best games ever made (* if you love GnR music).

I think the general consensus is that IMDN is also one of the best games ever made, but I've never been a fan of the music so I'll never own one.

I wouldn’t worry about it, the work won’t seem that bad once you do it. I received a NIB Deadpool a month ago, which is notorious for ball guides that scrape off the clear and art. They required removal and washer installs - basically similar to the situation with GnR only different causes.

I dreaded the work on Deadpool and it turned out to be fine. The GnR posts should be no worse, if not easier, considering how much had to be disassembled on Deadpool to remove those guides.

Heh - just did the DP fix as well and I agree it was a little more involved than GnR.

2 years full warranty in Europe, its a European Law. No and, ifs or buts about it. My disto is going to bat about my playfield issue. Looking forward to what the outcome will be. Currently they are getting the same silence treatment i have had for awhile. JJP has shipped washers my way and told me to take the issue up with my distro which i allready had.

Still loving playing this monster of a machine.

Thanks. I'm sure you are correct.
Went back and looked at my email from Jersey Jack and they did call it a fuse. Oh well. Either way it failed. lol.

Yeah, it's a thermal protector/switch. Disconnects power when a certain temp is reached, re-connects when temp falls.

Looking at the spec sheet again just now, I just realized that it says the casing is electrically alive, so probably not a good idea to leave this outside of the coil with no electrical tape or something over it (plus the fact that not having it against the coil defeats the heat switching cutoff it's supposed to be doing).

http://pepiusa.info/model-st01/

It is the shitty playfields from JJP that is the embarrassment. This issue needs to be fixed. Some people like playfield protectors and some do not. That is the beauty of the hobby, you can do whatever you like to customise your machine.

You are wasting your breath trying to teach that one manners.

You can bypass the switch if you want. I got a new coul from JJP and replaced it. So far so good on the latest code.

Ive been waiting on Pingraffix .High quality blades can’t wait to see what they throw down .Thanks for the heads up .

Playfield protectors have nothing to do with the shit JJP play fields, they both suck

yes, I see what you mean.

Thanks.

I received my game a few days ago and got that error after putting on the scoop Cliffy. Turns out I crimped the wire when I was putting the Axl mold back onto the upper pf. I un crimped it and it’s working fine now.