It's just a switch with a blade on it, right (not an opto)? If so, just push up on that specific switch blade on the playfield all the way with your finger while you're on that switch test screen and see if the screen beeps and the error clears.

If that doesn't work, do the REVERSE of that, and pull the blade down a little to see if the switch is bound and bringing the blade away from the switch a little releases it.

Auto-Calibration fixes this along with a reboot.. but seems like it’s happening frequently. it's one common board where the piano and shooter lane proximity switches are all on. Seems like it’s usually the exact same switches that had drifted on.

Its also noteworthy we didn't have any problems until we updated to the current code.

Hi, I have an odd problem. A ball trough error message, but when I enter the switch test everything works just fine. Did anyone else have this issue?

Sometimes if a switch doesn’t register after a certain number of games it will show up in the error report upon boot up. It’s the games way of showing you a potential issue. Once the switch gets activated the error goes away

Looks great. What kind of scoop protector is that? Doesn’t appear to be a cliffy

I love mirror blades , they just open up games so much .

Can't find the video.. is it me?

Ha , Not you , just a picture

Shit, I thought I deleted this post! Apologies, didn’t realize I couldn’t upload a video directly, so I was going to repost once I uploaded the video somewhere else and could link to it. Here the video:

I was having trouble with plunged balls falling back down the shooter lane, so fixed using a method somewhere earlier in this thread. Added washer on top of the gate, which slightly lowers the metal flap. Working great now!

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That's an interesting idea.

So much blinking. Why ruin the light show?

Everyone is going to have their opinion, and rightfully so. You say “ruin”, I say “enhance”! Again, I’ll try and take some video of a song in action, may do more justice to the experience than just the attract mode.

Where did you buy the colored protectors?

Hey guys

I got the call from JJP that my machine is very close to shipping. I am really torn about going ahead with the purchase. I have been super excited about the game, and the one-of-a-kind gameplay experience it offers. And it combines our families passion for live music with pinball. But it is heartbreaking to see all of the playfield issues and other quality issues with the game. Any word on what these new post kits are that JJP is shipping out? I have hopes that can help keep the playfield issues at bay. So ultimately, the tough question is, is the game really worth it given all of the challenges to keep the game going? Are there a lot of GNR owners that are happy with the game? I know I see some here on the forum, but they seem to be drowned out by so many folks having problems with the game.

Thanks,
MacJedi

I'm in the same boat MacJedi! Amazing game but nervous about all of the reported playfield issues.

I already delayed my order once and the next opportunity I can get a game is in July. I assume my games build date would be June.

My question though is has JJP taken additional measures since the April build date games to prevent playfield issues? Are different washers and or posts now being used?

The link to the website is in his post

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-jjp-gnr-thread/page/229#post-6342940

Thanks for sharing this. I'll hold my opinion until I see it during play because I can totally appreciate dynamic sequencing differences in a song compared to linear attract, but right now I'm leaning towards jalpert taking it from attract mode to distract mode ..

I was nervous as well so I ordered a playfield protector and when it was installed everything was gone through completely. Get your game, just go through and QC your own game before you play a ball on it. You will be glad you did, I am loving it so far!

Based on all the recent evidence, buy and install the PETG washers recommended by Fooflighter. That appears to prevent any playfield damage around the posts.

Nothing is 100% guaranteed to work, but if I were in your position (and I jealously wish I was!) I’d make the purchase

Just my opinion .
There are obviously people with Playfield issues and other problems with this game .
BUT with the amount of games that have gone out , I think a majority of people do not have these issues .
That does not excuse jjp on how they are responding to people with these issues .
You can take some simple steps to help protect your Playfield from potential issues .
Mechanically , I don't think GNR has any more issues than any other pin , especially considering it lacks any complicated mechanical mech's .
I bailed on a Potc ce and lost a $1,500 deposit because of the mechanical issues , lack of assets and the code not being what I hoped for .
I'm nervous about Playfield issues like everyone else but with some preventative steps , I think it's well worth it .
GNR is definitely one of the best pins I have played .

I think after you get the game, if you go back and re-read your post, it might make you laugh. This pin is that good. You're not without tribal knowledge and resources here, and add in confidence in your fix/mod skills, it's totally a no brainer.

First thing that anyone should do when they get the game is to go through and put 3/4” plastic washers under every post they can find. You should order 30 of them. If you do this preventive measure I think it’s safe to say at this point, based on people playing over 1,000 games since adding the washers, that your playfield will be perfectly fine. Fingers crossed of course

I say go for it! The game and experience are worth it. If you do get a chipped post (I did), you will get angry. But if you maintain it, the anger will slowly disperse and you will be able to enjoy the game again. It is one of the best in my opinion.

My magnet blew about 4 mos back (1.06 code?). JJP sent a replacement that I let sit for months. With the game at 1.22, I decided to put the new coil in a couple weeks ago. It was fairly easy, but does require soldering. So far so good with the new magnet - fingers crossed. So sweet to hit that extra ball shot through the pops with the magnet.

Good advice. Fooflighter did an excellent write up about this process and it's a key post now. So definitely reference that.

What Playfield protector? Link pls?

I did actually. Good idea to check. It was all working great up until last night so I’ll dig in better and look. Thanks

Anyone have a link to where can I find clear plastic protectors?

Does anyone know what the video resolution is for the smaller playfield monitor? 1280x800 maybe?

Hey folks I have 2 questions. One is how to reduce the amount of balls that come out during a song mode (there is just a constant ejection of 6 balls) and the other is what flipper strength most people have their game set at. Thanks!

Wow an entire plastic playfield protector. Has anyone put this on their GnR pin? Looks like quite a job, but might be worth it. Obviously it looks like a pretty much a full disassemble. Curious exactly how much of a task it is, how long it takes and what are the issues you have to deal with along the way and afterwards because of the change adding a couple millimeters to the playfield? I guess the cliffy's will still fit.

Have you installed on your gnr? If so, how long did it take you? What was the disassembly like and reassembly? Also, what surprise modifications did you have to make as a result of putting on the play field? Any new hardware or posts or screws let no longer work? This is very tempting and I'm not sure why there's not a whole lot of talk about this on this forum. Maybe nobody has one?

In my opinion germany‘s Pinball Universe playfield protectors (called Playfield Shield) are far better and more accurate. They also offers clear plastic protectors called clip. Both are looking great on the GnR. As far as I know it is distributed in the US via Mezel Mods

Given that the playfield seems to have ink adhesion issues, a playfield protector on jjGnR is probably a one-way trip because art and clear could come up if it's removed in the future. Seems like risky overkill.

A playfield protector is not glued. It is loose lying on top of the playfield and you can easily remove it by cutting with a scissor. No problem with the Playfield clear

All the ones I've seen have adhesive on the backing. If there's no adhesive, that's eliminates the potential lifting of art. Still seems like overkill vs addressing just the known problem areas around posts, though.

No adhesives on German Playfield protectors and really common in Europe. Preserves Playfields. After removing you have a new Playfield under it. And it is not for eliminating of the current GnR problems. It is common in Europe on all new pins. If ordered the distributor installs it before delivery. Very nice

So my center VUK coil is out on my LE. JJP won't get back to me. Is this an common issue and is there an easy fix?

Very common, they don't get back to anyone.

Tests - Switches - Matrixed - does the switch in there work ?

Tests - Coils - does it fire ? Any others not firing ?

Check wires at the coil. Check connector for it at the I/O board.

LTG : )

Switch works, the coil does not fire. I checked all the wires and messed with it a bit and it then fired once on the next test, but no more. Thanks, will look in more detail.

Where did you mess with it ?

If at the coil lugs. I'd reflow the solder on them. And dig around the thin wires from the coil windings to the coil lugs. Easy to have a crack or break you can't see.

LTG : )

Yep, I’ve been waiting months for another magnet coil. I have owned the LE for 6 months and have had a working magnet for a day or two. No word from JJP on this issue (has it been fixed in the software? Was there a huge batch of defective thermal fuses?) of course.