Ah ok, the way heard him he described how only a couple threads held that post in to the t-nut and nothing else. Whereas mine is; post, washer, t-nut, lock nut. My misunderstanding.

I installed a set of regular mirrors, which are nuts. Doubles your hot rail effect. Anyway, mine also didn't line up and these were sold as Bally/WMS/JJP compatible. For what it's worth the same set fit my AFMR the same way, off center. But I installed anyway. It does cause a bit of a gap up top. But I also invested in blade protectors since I was told GnR was a tight fit with blades and art. So far so good, in play you don't notice the gap.

https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html
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Maybe JJP did a running change and uses longer post threads now. But with either version the main problem seems to be way too much slack on the hole the post goes into.

So what did you do to install? Did you just place them over the hinge bolts?

I can not wait for Keith and team to implement the 'start the game with a song' mode. My family loves to see the song modes but some have trouble reaching them. Alas I'm the only pinhead in the house. When I had MMR and AFM they loved those because it was 'shoot here for awesome'. Looking forward to that with the new mode. My wife upon playing GnR reacted that she 'liked that I started with a song in that other one you had. (AC/DC)'. While I personally appreciate the current approach immensely, the super casuals will LOVE starting in a song mode I think. Regardless, the game is so good as is.

Yes, I installed them with the hinge bolts partially covered by the blades, same as in my AFMr. Yuck, need to clean that glass
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Love Liors mods

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ZaphX deactivated his account?

I bought the black mirror version and needed to cut a bit off the back in order to get them to line up properly with the hinges. Just used a dremel to cut them, maybe removed a quarter inch at best.

Lost a good resource there.

Probably got tired of helping, and getting crap.

LTG : (

Anything that causes the washer to slide is a real problem.

Awesome line up there man, congrats!
I need one of those robot eyes for when I get my one, it’s so T2.

Thank you Sir! In the future, all of the pins will be together. For now, AC/DC Luci and Aerosmith LE are in another room. The fiancé and enjoyed playing a bunch of songs in jukebox mode this evening. The live concert footage and light shows orchestrated to each song are amazing. Cannot wait to play this thing once the proper playfield protection is installed! I actually saw GNR for the Not in this Lifetime tour a few years ago and this game brings back good memories.

If anyone knows him personally, tell him he’s already missed. I have so many of his posts saved, I know I owe him a beer. Man that’s such a shame.

There is nothing to it. Just connect the digital in (solder or just use a connector on the wire)for the rail stripes to your under cabinet 2812 stripes. Add power.

I hope he wasn't offended by the take it to the " I'm sick of hearing about the playfields thread "
It was genuinely meant in a lighthearted , tongue-in-cheek way .
A few people were pissed , even after it was explained that it was a joke , I get it , but that's not going stop me from trying to have some fun and lighten up the place .
Sometimes we can all get a bit too serious about what's meant to be a fun hobby .
Although , there's nothing funny about art work coming off your playfield .
Jjp needs to come up with a better solution than buying your game back , which no one wants to sell , because it's such a great game .
It's such a pitty these Playfield issues are detracting from such a awesome game that Eric has made .

i second that .

Whatever. He dished me on the daily, every time I posted something to bitch about my issues with JJP, he trolled me immediately. Once he started getting some static back because of his behavior, he took his ball and went home. Grow thicker skin, the internet is a scary place sometimes.

If anyone can give me the an accurate caliber size of the post and the hole size in playfield I can design a sleeve that holds the post firm. Then someone can try it to see how it works.

I am still waiting on my machine.

Quick update on my mirror blade issue. So i was able to line up the mirrors but the window glass channel has to come out and both can't be in at the same time. I know exactly what needs to be cut off for it to fit but I do not have the tools to do so I am going to have to return the mirrors.

Appreciate all the help people have given me

bumper123
A threaded sleeve the diameter of the existing hole ?

Vespula,

Need post diameter that are loose, and the hole size in the playfield, and the depth of the hole to the faster (approximately).

If we make a bushing it will hold the post stiff an spread the load.. wouldn't need washers and would take the impact of the ball better.. I can sketch sometime up... put it on the 3d printer to try.

Just a thought.

Vespula,

Put the washer side up and the sleeve goes into the playfield hole. Then the energy of the ball hitting the post is absorbed by the playfield hole not the surface not the playfield surface. The drawing attached is a sample.

Just a thought.

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The above is what I was thinking also.. there is a silicone company that can make bushings to size..

All I need is the dimensions.

I posted this on the other JJP thread the other day. Just from a quick google search.

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Edit: Here's a place that sells the flanged sleeves: https://www.mcmaster.com/spacers/multipurpose-flanged-sleeve-bearings/

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Pinhead

Exactly...This would remove the surface issue that they are having and support the post from moving in the first place when the ball hits it. I would worry that the silicone would allow too much movement. Try a simple 3d PVC / PLA - Machined sleeve would be better.. drops in from the top.

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Looks great, affordable, and easy to install. Scheduled to start shipping in Aug/Sept.

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I would think you'd would be able to trim the channel receiver by half a millimeter with an exacto knife. Isn't it just plastic?

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Why not just leave the posts out of the machine all together?

Has anyone tried this to see what happens?

Price?

$199 plus shipping

Great price!

The topper just went on line at CoinTaker about five minutes ago. The site says an August delivery, but knowing JJP I'd guess later in the Fall. https://cointaker.com/products/jersey-jack-guns-n-roses-pinball-topper-not-shipping-until-august

Yea - I took the upper playfield post out and laid down a circle mylar around the hole. Game plays fine without it.

I dialed down the pop power to the lowest setting, so I haven’t removed the pop post yet. I put the mylar circle down and have a petg washer ready, but I ordered a longer shank post from PBL so that I could have plenty of bite in the T-Nut. Will probably lock nut it too if enough is sticking out of the T-Nut.

I would really appreciate High_End_Pins insight I to this development.. could this indeed by the cause of the pooling/chipping.

What would you High_End_Pins do for the posts?

Search the playfields pooling thread, Chris has already gone into detail there. Suffice to say, the opposite of what we are doing.

Thanks very much for the info. I think we will go this way as well. Leave the posts out all together for now.

Macca101010 What do you think?

I’m not a very good nudger, so I added a couple of star posts to limit the cheap drains. Of course they sit on 3/4” plastic washers.

Now my son and I have a chance at starting 2-3 songs per game lol.

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Is everyone using preventative measures and putting the PETG on every post or just the ones with chipping? I read someone said you may cause more damage by trying to use preventative measures and it got me thinking......

I’ve got a plastic washer on every post I could get to. So far so good. Truth is nobody knows what is good to do and not good to do. But I will say doing nothing is the worst thing to do.

Can the ball even got down the outlanes??

It sure can and still does lol

Then you should use a wider star post so it doesn’t

Rubber band is next haha. Seriously though. These outlanes are killers

PLAY BETTER!!!!!!!!!

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Your next mod..

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And then I drill a mini post between the flippers

Agree. Just another option.

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Agreed. Game absolutely kicked my ass this weekend. But I was working on a new strategy, cash out strategy, where my avg scores went up, but not my peek scores. Trying to get to the wizard mode and such; which I did not get to

meSz suggested on the pf issue thread that a longer T-nut might help. I would assume the post hole size was drilled larger to accommodate the T-nut, so it seems if there was a longer T-nut (one that came close to the top of the pf), the post wobble would be significantly reduced.