Sounds like many of your distributors require you to make payments prior to delivery? I guess I am lucky. $250 deposit and rest due at delivery

How do you back up the scores?

Hmmm....I was upgrading from 1.16...I wonder if thats the issue?

I paid in full for my LE early October. But at that time it was supposed to be 3 weeks, Not 6 months.

Does anyone have issues of the ball going back down the lane on a plunge? It doesn’t happen all the time but a lot and it’s annoying. Any easy fixes?

My GC scores lingered around 15-16 million for about 2 months. Then I started breaking 25 million. A week later 53 million and then recently a 115 million GC. My good games tend to be in the 30-40 million(I probably get a few of those a week?) For perspective though Karl Diangelo seems to get 100 million + all the time. His higher scores seem to be in the 250-300 mil range. And that dude is amazing at pinball. Collecting the Fender patch and other band member/sponsor patches leads to band frenzy in song mode which can really Jack up song jackpots. Great score! 35 million is nothing to sneeze at!

Pretty sure 1.16 will not update VIA wifi, you need to use USB wifi was broken at some point.

Yeah I already assumed mine would be Summer as well. I figured if I get it by July 4th, that will be perfect. But may be longer, so I’m just paying attention to order days and when they arrive. About 5-6 month lead times

USB stick with nothing else on it. Game turned on. Plug USB stick into the USB cable by the cash box. Go into Utilities - Settings Back Up - do what the screen says. Settings restore is right there to.

LTG : )

Can’t update wifi or usb. This is pissing me off and my cab if jacked up which isn’t helping my frustrations

Nice job!
FWIW, I am decent player but my best score is still in the teens.
I will probably get rocking now that I've finally mastered knowing when to cash in on jackpots, especially when it's a song that I'm not A-1 on.
I'm now OK with just scoring 4-6 million or so from a jackpot if it means keeping the ball alive. I love the risk/reward rule play.

I love the rush I get when a 20-Second Ball Save gets awarded during a song right as the last ball is draining. Good times!

I'm curious to know what are some of the songs that players are striving to achieve or conquer in every game.

What is your favorite song in terms of scoring maximum points?
What is your least favorite song in terms of challenge and difficulty?

I feel your frustration brother !

Please try USB again. Start fresh. Download Full Install from US Mirror or EU Mirror ( try the one you didn't use before ). Use Unetbootin to install on your USB stick, try a different brand than your last attempt. 8GB to 16GB, with nothing else on it. Follow Full Install instructions carefully.

LTG : )

Yes you can adjust the one way gate with the blue pad on it. Carefully bend it down or loosen it and slide it down.

Know when to cash in? That’s like knowing when to sell a stock. Karl never cashes....

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I did that and it helped, but still was occurring. I ultimately ended up taking the blue rubber pad off entirely and replacing it with some self adhesive velcro (fuzzy soft side). Problem solved. It also helped cushion the ball on rollback helping with the center drain issue.

I get it, but he's an awesome player.

When you cash for me depends on a lot of things. You need to know the songs and how close you are to the applause jackpot. You also need to pay close attention to any ball saver mystery awards. If the song is super hard (like Coma) I’m much more likely to cash in if I have a decent jackpot built up. You also need to wait the full time (the ball is in the scoop) if you think you are close to the song ending. It’s saved my ass quite a few times.

Right on.
Coma is definitely a challenge for me. Good to know that I'm not alone.

Shoot the left orbit and hold the upper right flipper. You’ll likely get the coma target you need.

Same lol if I knew it would take this long I?

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Ummmm I?

Would just pay and wait like I am

Wow they sent you a machine with a version of the code that is known NOT to be upgradable via WiFi. Kinda messed up actually when you think about it.

Not if the game was boxed up before it was known or later updates available.

LTG : )

36 of which were from Estranged on the first ball. The key is that I had five balls locked before starting the song(accidentally.
I wanted six locked). Then there was that "Going to break 50!" excitement. Aaaand.. no. That's when I walked away and decided to sell the machine. I feel a little better this morning.
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I upgraded to 1.18 by USB then 1.19 by Wifi - no issues in doing so.

Cant wait to get my Le. Anyone know if they are back on the line yet ?

You will be asked for the rest prior to the machine shipping. They won't ship anything from JJP until the distributor has confirmed 100% payment.

I would say yes they are...

I am about to do the same. What is the feedback on 1.19? Better,same?anybody see any glitches? Don’t want to jump the gun if there are new issues.
Was stuck on 1.16,had to jump through hoops to do the USB update to 1.18,WiFi will be very nice to get to 1.19 or 1.20 . When is desert demolition coming?

Unless it is a low speed orbit, then it is likely to hit below the coma target and bounce directly into the right outlane. I HATE when that happens

Are there any new rules on playing the newest versions? The rules I found are V1.08 ...

Power Chord multiplier for shooting Duff's Bass Ramp during a song and added Power Chord boost for shooting Duff's Bass Ramp out of a song which boost point quite a lot.

Don't forget that in lieu of Wi-Fi, if you have a long enough network cable you can use the ethernet jack on the motherboard to cable it up to a nearby LAN wall jack, ethernet switch or router. The machine will autoconnect and use DHCP for an IP address and after that, the online software-update menu option works exactly the same as if you were using Wi-Fi.

I tried updating via wifi from 1.18 to 1.19 X3.

Each time, the update downloaded but failed to verify.

I tried doing a Delta Update Via USB. Again failed to Verify.

Reformatted USB stick. Still no Joy.

Tried a different USB Stick. Update successful.

They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting different results, but in pinball... it’s a necessity!!

Does the LE have a different shooter rod then the SE? I played a SE and man that shooter rod seemed like cheap piece of aluminum. Very cheesy, maybe it was not original.

Has Cliffy made a protector for the scoop . After seeing some people have some chipping , I think it is a must-have .

Nope. Bank check handed to the delivery guy when he drops off my game

https://www.passionforpinball.com/wip.htm

Apparently he has .

Still unable to update from 1.17 to 1.19 via USB. I have 3 USB sticks that are 8-16GB in size and tried them all. One is also the same USB stick I used to update Wonka. I tried two larger 64 and 128GB sticks and those boot to a screen asking about a boot device and to plug in a keyboard.

One the 8GB and 16GB sticks, I see the JJP logo appear on both screens for a few seconds, then it reboots, shows the logo, rinse and repeat.

I had to do a full factory reboot, it took almost 2 hours, went through the process twice and finally successfully cloned the drive. All is well but let’s hope that isn’t the case going forward

I wish I could help more,but the wife did it. It took 4 tries,unzip,format,witchcraft,don’t know what the key was but 4th time was the charm.
We did not do a full reboot,delta install.

This is what i had to do to. I tried 2 different usb sticks for the delta but no go until i burnt the image and did full install and it took about 2 hours. This was from 1.17 to 1.19. Hopefully from now on it works through wifi!

Updating this game is painful....I still dont understand why they can't fix the WiFi update from 1.16 to 1.19.....JJP is getting lazy

The code CURRENTLY ON THE GAME for 1.15, 1.16, and 1.17 broke wifi. It is by definition impossible to make a fix to the wifi code via wifi because... wifi is broken. That is why the update FROM 1.15, 1.16, or 1.17 must be done via usb. Updating via usb fixes the wifi code. Then wifi updates will work again.

I don't have enough info to diagnose any of the usb problems described... Make sure you're doing the right update method. If you downloaded the zip file, unzip it onto the stick and select usb update from within the game. If you downloaded the ISO, make sure it's burned onto the stick then turn the game on with the stick in the usb cable. (Recommend using the usb cable and not the cabinet board for speed reasons.)

Thanks i didnt know that! I was wondering why it was taking so much longer then your site said. Thanks for your hard work(definitely not lazy!!!) to get these bugs ironed out.

Last I checked Cliffy was waiting on someone to take measurements to build a set.

Sorry I shouldn't have used the word lazy.....just updating via USB has always been a major pain in the ass on my end, but I guess I don't have choice. Too bad u can't go back to an older version of the code via WiFi, and then update.

Up till today I only had the chance to play the LE. Today I played both the SE and LE. Man, I really felt the gameplay was better on the SE. I could see the playfield better and it was easier to hit the left ramp and left orbit shots. I think the bass guitar rail going down the left side is the biggest issue in terms of playfield visibility...for me anyway. Not sure if others feel the same.
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I love the light show much more on the LE for obvious reasons, and I do like the upper playfield and guitar locks. My opinion of course, but if the LE did away with the bass guitar rails it would be a perfect layout.

Now I am second guessing the LE vs the SE. I guess I’ll have to make another trip and play some more

You probably need to change the boot priority in the BIOS. Someone else had that problem. Changing the boot priority solved it.