Is there a post rubber on the metal post between the two left in lanes on your SE? Mine doesn’t have one. I added an extra white one I had but I’m not sure it belongs there.

No

Nope - no rubber. That post is supposed to be bare.

Ty

Played on the 1.17 code last night, reached Encore when collecting Applause jackpot for It's So Easy. All the balls drained, as expected, then the game just stayed chanting Encore, Encore.

I took this video after it had been stuck there for almost a minute. Finally a ball search happened, but it took a long time for the ball search to start.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/CV1ghJztkYCNKWK89

I have no idea at this point. Prolly will have a both a piece for sale and a version to print for free.

Figured it out

Pinside: Will I lose my Scores? I don’t want to lose my scores. How can I keep my high scores?! How can I put my scores back in?

Me: Why would you want scores from previous code versions?

LTG : It’s the SETTINGS they want to keep.

Me: I must have misunderstood!

It’s a bit of both. I’m in the settings crew. I then just go and reset the high scores manually.

I’d buy it

Backing up settings saves scores. Backing up settings saves settings.

LTG : )

Saving scores from previous versions depending on what’s changed makes old scores irrelevant

Guess i've wasted hundreds of dollars on a touch screen kiosk for my players then.

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So im starting to really get the code i think. Its not very deep if all you need to do is play a song from each album enough to light the album modes and play all 4 of those. Then get slash solo and tour multiball. Then your at the final wizard mode Not in this Lifetime? That it? I almost did that already on 2nd day.

You did all that in one game or across multiple games? What’s your high score?

One game and it was probably only my 20th game ever on it and to add insult to injury the crowd sensor board is shot so no make some noise multiball. I expected deep deep code since its Keefer but seems they spent alot of time on songs but not depth if your like me and try to destroy a game. Ill have to look at my score tonight when i get a chance but i think it was only 25 million or so. I know we've talked about SW premium before and that games got more depth to make it to the end then GnR, im stunned!!! My best on SW is 7.5 billion as a reference.

It’s stunning isn’t it?If you had purchased the LE version I would buy it off you right now!

So, has anyone recently taken delivery of a new LE recently? If so, when did you put your deposit down?

Is it normal that the code updates on JJP website are gone ?

I would love when a jackpot is lost that the jackpot score stays on screen a little while longer. Playing today I kept missing what the jackpot I had lost was. Also still think a biggest jackpot lost needs to be implemented in the saved scoring. pinball_keefer

Honestly yes and no.

I feel like GnR Is more of a scoring game than a progression game. The whole point is to build up song values and then blow up songs. The depth comes from trying to maximize your set up for the song and then having 20+’songs to choose from. Your score seems way low for having gotten that deep into the game, I’ve collected single song jackpots worth 40+ million. The risk reward of collecting a jackpot or going for broke is the game.

That said, I think getting to the wizard mode is pretty dammed impressive. That means you built up 4 songs, Played them all for like 3+ minutes, then played 4 mini wizard modes and two other modes. Keep in mind that it’s early code and one mini wizard mode isn’t even coded....

Try increasing your flipper power and your pitch. The SE should play super fast and pretty mean. You can also play with settings to make the game tougher

I’ve gotten deeper into SW in less time with the game and feel like getting to Jedi multi ball is not much harder than nitlt... to me the real depth in SW comes from trying to maximize the multiplier.

JJP FB shows they are still making CEs. Maybe another month or so before they start making Less again. I am only guessing.

Its great to have a battle and fun time with a pin that can stick it to you when you make a mistake or get ripped off with a cheap drain, IMDN does this really well. Also a great feeling when you kick the games ass and you get rewarded

Do you have stacking turned on or off on your SW? On my SE I'm at 6.8 degrees factory lanes. I just expected something alittle different i guess knowing Keefers other games but what's there is good. Id do like the game it's fun. The light show for some of the songs is great. There is work needed on both Use your illusion modes and all around polish. Game definitly puts you in a multiball trance and you jam to the songs with a flood of balls coming at you for minutes on end.

Stacking is on but I never select it. I find that with r2 and Han you can blow through the modes pretty quickly

Don’t get me wrong it’s not easy and I’ve never gotten there, but I’ve gotten pretty close just playing for score. Though you are better than me my best is only like 4.5 billion

Yep , Stern games hardly ever have any issues .
Although , they seem to have some problems with the up and down spinner on Led Zeppelin and they had issues with the subway on Avengers , also the diverter on Turtles was a bit dodgy , Stranger Things had more faults than you could poke a stick at , Elvira had back door issues .
Shit , now I think about it Stern has as many or more issues as any other manufacturer .
Sounds like you were lucky not to have any issues .

This isn’t a mode based game. The options and strategy available to you are second to none. Risk vs reward has replaced “modes” it’s what makes the game amazing.

I’ve never cared about my score before this game, I never thought I would. But what you have to go through to score big, while losing huge scores, makes it memorable.

I wouldn’t expect them to not since they mfg easily 3-4x the amount of machines in a year then any other mfg.

All I ask is making those album modes WAY better. Tear down the wall one is pretty decent but the others just flat out suck. Intro to Shall we play a game is cool though. Almost forces me to avoid certain albums cause I cringe especially Desert Demolition

You can get to it fairly easy, but can you do it while maximizing the values. I've seen jackpots for a single song worth 3x & 4x your highest game value. I think that is where the depth from this specific game comes.

Well my TMNT pro has been perfect, my AIQ that i had subway worked perfect and still does for next guy, would rather have a Stranger Things LE, never had a Stern break within 24 hours, and never ever expected GnR to be coded this way from Keefer after loving Hobbit and LOTR code. See i can play too....

Really though i had fun on the game alittle more last night now that you guys told me its more about score then progression. I went into buying it blindly, i dont watch movie trailers just as i dont usually watch to much early footage of games so i can determine for myself if i like a game. Im not a fanboy for JJP or Stern, ive owned both. Im going to keep the game for now see where it goes and how i feel about it over next few weeks. Got to remember ive only played it 25 times now or so so i barely know the game so put your pitchforks away im aloud to be disappointed in the code direction initially since i had differnet expectations. Shots layout wise its got some good flow to it and when you get it rockin the game is a blast but it doesnt give me the adrenaline rush of other games yet. I got to learn how to build up the jackpots higher to make the risk reward higher. Whats the strategy to build them up into 40 million jackpots you guys are talking about?

Just wish they made a pinball I wanted.

Play all the booster multiballs before starting a song and max out the booster values.

That could be one of my issues with it, my skill shot crowd board went out so no booster there. Friday part will be here.

Did you find one for 14k?

Is this the GnR owners thread?

Did you get one in your house yet? If so how does it compare depth wise to Wonka i see you have?

WOW this game and company are beginning too sound like a continuous TRAIN WRECK, really considering canceling my order .

Based on what? I'm loving my game.

Please do

Agreed, especially if it’s an LE and helps get me mine faster

Why is that? Welcome to the early adopters club, almost all games (even stern) have all sorts of issues out of the gate. The wifi update issue is a real bummer though i would say, though I havent tried updating my game yet because of reading all the comments here. I will probably give it a try this weekend, however.

I owned an SW for 2 years. Love that game and miss it very much. I would say SW is a perfect balance of breadth & depth. After awhile, i found it on the easy side to get to the emperor. So what did i do? I set my game to only allow 1 extra ball via 100 tie fighters with stacking off (game is way better with stacking off btw IMO), tweaking software adjustments such as these made it a much better balance. I love games like SW where you can get through the entire game in <20 mins, i hate marathon games which Keefer is known for. I for one am super glad that GNR isn’t another marathon Keefer depth game, but it can be if you want to blow up song after song...encore after encore. That’s what’s so great about it, different ways to play it.

4 song modes = 12 mins minimum
4 album modes = 15 secs - 3 mins per mode
Slash solo = 1 minute
Tour mb = 30secs - 5 mins

All in all, looks like we’re right in line with the sweet spot of a 20 minute game until you get to the wizard mode, this is perfection in my book.

That said, if it’s too easy, dial back your settings, make it harder. Set your max ball saver in songs from 60 secs to 30 secs, limit the amount of add a balls, limit the extra balls, etc...

Games that have quick paths to wizard modes (GOT, SW, DP, GNR?) are awesome in my book as you really get to play in the settings sandbox. Games that are meant to be marathon games (LOTR, TSPP, Hobbit) can be much more challenging to tweak gameplay and style.

My 2 cents...but give me a game with breadth over a game with depth any day of the week.

I hope its not because of my posts. The game is great and fun to play. Not everyone has the same tastes in pins though. JJP as a company does do some weird stuff sometimes but they overall try there best to take care of everyone. Lots of blind fan boys follow JJP and would jump off a bridge for them and lots of Stern faithfuls shit on JJP but we all should just be happy we have options and have more fun playing then caring what others think.

Please don’t!... this thread needs you, don’t be a martyr stay here with us for god sake

Still making Deadpool's.

I'm not convinced you only had 25 million score and got to wizard mode? I complete one song and get 25 million. Your doing something wrong with your scoring or your trolling, not really sure.

Also these settings are all set on easy mode it seems. There is no default setting to make it harder, you have to manually change things your self.

Here are some things I have tweaked on my SE, and I am still adjusting as I play. I thought song mode was just way to long of unlimited add-a-balls and ball saves.

Turn off unlimited add-a-balls during song mode. That is completely dumb to have on. I have mine set at 3 now.
Song ball save is at 60 seconds, turn that down to 30-45 seconds.
On my SE I have made it so 3 ramps to lock a ball instead of 2. Not sure if you can make it harder to lock balls on the other models as I do not know the rules/settings for that.

I also unplugged the spotlight on the left flipper, that thing is just out of place it creates shadows and reflections that are not needed.

Also remember not every pinhead is a pro like you. So these tasks will not be easy for all.

No trolling! I didnt understand how the game scored is all and thought i was trying to progress to the wizards when i should be going for jackpots. I dont have alot of time on the game yet since i dealt with the skill shot board issue for half the time ive owned it so far. Im not a pro by any means.

Booster multiballs, album sales, patches, and ball locks before starting the songs.

Oh and don't cash out of a song, keep doing the add-a-ball to make it more valuable, get to the applause jackpot and encore songs so they are even more valuable.