I think we all had that same laugh early on with the CE #. lol Don't sell this game or the LE short. It truly is amazing and you will Never see a light show like this on Any pinball machine even with 12 pairs of PinStadium lights lol. 5000 may come sooner then we expect..

More than just a GNR pin to me.
Inherited my gramps Fender that I’ve enjoyed playing for years.
That alone may have me pulling trigger on one of these.

what is action button used for?

pick songs
switching badges

something else?

It is beautiful I hope they can use these artist again.Dirty Donny and Zombie Yeti turned Stern around.
It's funny because I just recently made a post about wishing Chris Franchi worked at JJP,and then I find out from his podcast he was contacted to do just that and had to turn it down!Anyway these new guys did some great work!

My comment wasn't intended to sell the game short in anyway. I hope your right, but 5000 is a lot of games....

Fire Canon in tear down the wall mode. Maybe a few other things in album modes

And the light fuse challenge in Pyro.

Always good to see local with the latest and greatest as long as that didn’t come from Evan??? Don’t get me started.......

Yeah, I buy a JJP LE because I think the extras are worth the additional $$, not because of it's limited nature.

So I'm making lemonade out of lemons. Burned on the CE (I will mention of it no more)...but...gave me the inspiration to rearrange my office/man cave and make room for the LE. Just so happens I think it's gonna fit in better in my office as a showpiece versus the gameroom, where I had planned the CE, with the color and brick artwork. Score. Best part is, the office is on the first floor!!! First pin I don't have to disassemble and carry up stairs. This actually turned out for the best in retrospect. (and yep, I'm OCD like that with the tape outline my curse )
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Really lovely space there, and glad you're okay with your decision now. You should be!

My OCD can never be comfy with angled pins.

Slide saves NOT allowed.

Thank you! It's really strange, most of the time I'm not okay angled

I just ordered some Pin Butts !!!

Depends on the feel and customer opinions start to come in.
Somewhere between 3months and never.

Going to be great, but i would have moved the guitars to the white wall next to the door and have the game squared against the brick wall.
Depends ofc of how close it will be to the door and if it will interfere with the passage.

Btw LE colours match your room better.

Ok, I'm a few hours in ownership, and maybe a dozen games in. Thought I'd stop by and share some first impressions.

To set context on my pinball knowledge/experience (I've always felt that was helpful in understanding one's point of view), I'd thought I'd share a few notes. In short, my Wife and I share this hobby, and have discovered in our relationship that both of us (thankfully shared a childhood fascination with pinball that we have been able to connect over later in life. It played a particularly strong part of helping us maintain sanity in our relationship as we navigated recent tragic health decline of my in-laws, who sadly both passed away last year. I get it. Too much info. Wanted to at least point out that it's something that's important to us. We're relatively new to the modern hobby (We have a few modern Sterns that we adore, A CGC Monster Bash that we love, and had a Cirqus Voltaire that was amazing and beautiful and "everything I ever wanted in a pinball machine, but never had the time to adequately maintain" that we ultimately let go. So, in short: We've played a ton of Pinball in our lives, have recently found ourselves connecting over this hobby later in life, and, most importantly, are *so thankful* that we have a modern industry to enjoy that supports this worthy hobby.

Ok, that being said:

My God. What an accomplishment.

This is the best Rock and Roll themed pin I've ever played. Period. It's not close.

It's fun. It's really fun!

I know, you say, where are the mechs? They aren't missed, and it becomes laughable to complain about it once you play through a song or two.

The experience is second to none.

I know, you say, I *hate* November Rain.

You will freaking *LOVE* November Rain.

My God.

The attention to detail in this machine is inspiring, and could only be a product of a team that is absolutely firing on all cylinders.

Yes, please, support this work. Support this Team. More of this craftsmanship in the hobby, please.

And, let's please talk about craftsmanship. It's everywhere here. The Design (both technical and physical) are astonishingly well done. Bravo to the software team. Seriously, folks, this is inspiring work.

Each song is a unique and enveloping experience. So well designed. So well presented.

Oh, and it balances such a great line between modern and classic pinball layout/feel. And it's as modern as the most beautiful of modern city neon light skylines.

Someone is bound to ask about playfield quality, dimples, pooling, etc.

Honestly, it would be foolish to even think of spending a moment looking for flaws here instead of appreciating the product of what was no doubt amazing teamwork. I'll get there. Someday. Maybe.

On Theme: I've had a love/hate relationship with this band over the years. I've seen them in concert a couple times (both as opening bands), and as much as I respect the energy and focus on delivering this style of Rock and Roll, I'm equally as appalled by every reason to distance yourself from some of this band's past lyrics and statements that can only be viewed in hindsight as hateful and misogynistic. We're Pinball lovers and Rock and Roll lovers, however, and this game has both in tremendous amounts and I'm so impressed with just how well crafted this machine is.

Looking forward to sharing more thoughts (if you aren't tired of me already here), but I get *tremendously* excited when I see execution that is done at such an extraordinary high level. When it combines kinetic movement with technology to present an *EXPERIENCE*, I'm personally inspired.

Absolutely bravo to the team at JJP. Extraordinary work.

Thanks! Unfortunately like you said the passage clearance is a bit limited and my guitar mounts were already there special hung through the stone on cross member braces

Yeah, My brother just put a deposit on an LE after all CE were sold out...

So to be clear... you're kinda on the fence with this one?

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I love to see an honest opinion. Can’t want to get mine and have the game of the year. Hopefully by Thanksgiving.

Hate to say but this pin is a minor let down.

Too many Multiballs and free play (ball save) add a ball overload, out lane ball resurrect.

Not story driven rules.

Fax Axl and old Slash plus 4 people I never heard of.

Hate the music notes when you roll over a part of the PF breaks into the song (can we disable that please!)

But all that said I’m probably buying an LE because it’s a box of lights and music and bling and to me that’s probably what I love about pinball.

Yes I love tough shots and rules etc. but the wrapping paper is just as important to me and what’s inside and GnR has a great wrapping paper.

Get to know these 4 others....they are good people and pretty amazing musicians.....

So, the new hotrails.

From a player's perspective, are they off-putting?

They seem quite in your face by the shooter lane?

Or are they diffused enough, for it to be a non-issue?

Waiting for SE reveal, and this was one concern.

I originally liked the CE more, but after looking further, the LE is definitely my favorite. I like the purple on the CE, but the art, back glass, and red are all better IMO on the LE. A couple mods like the roses on button, and skull plunger will probably be made by mods and that will really add to it. Can’t wait to get my LE.

Dang - that is going to look phenomenal in there! You might not get any work done though LOL!

Hate to say this, but man....you've just gotta stop. I swear, every GNR thread I open, there you are again. Saying the same shit over and over.

I'm aware you didn't order a game. So, I see some new posts in the GNR OWNER'S thread so I open it up. I'm excited to see what's going on. And then BOOM! There you are....again. It's like herpes....but slightly more annoying. It just won't go away....

And why post this negative stuff about the game in here? The amount of negativity from you and a handful of others is truly amazing. This is an OWNERS thread. Guys here are excited. I have a CE on order that I'm stoked to get. Why on earth do you need to post crap in here. It's such a buzz kill.

This game looks crazy awesome. At the end of the day though, it's just a damn pinball machine man. JJP made this game how they want. Maybe it's multi-ball heavy. Maybe it's with the video of the current line-up and what this band looks like today. That's how they wanted to make it. If you don't like heavy multiball or the current line-up, then don't buy the damn game. Honestly though, nobody really cares what you do. Nobody.

You and the other few that think so highly of your own opinions should open your own thread. Call it something like "Shit we don't like about JJP GNR and other opinions nobody actually wants to hear". Then I can just drain that thread and get excited over this game.

This game is going to fucking rock. I'm so psyched to see JJP and Eric do something like this. And to have Slash and the others with Guns put so much effort into this is truly amazing. Good on them. Bravo to all involved.

One last thing. We ALL know you think the LE art is better. We get it. Just.....just stop.

So are there any distros that got first shipments and all aren’t spoken for?

I agree with you on your assessment. I really really like the LE. We are in on a CE as my husband really liked that one but I am partial to the artwork and coloring of the LE. I think both are great and like you said someone will make the mods and they can be put on the LE.

*slow clap*

You’ve implied and outright said nothing but bad things about a game you’ve never played.Its almost like your trying to talk anybody out of wanting this JJP game.Whats the motivation behind your post.Do you have financial interest in Stern,I can appreciate this or are you just a fan boy trolling?

So does anybody know, or can a distributor chime in on this? I was told by a distributor that I bought 2 jjp games from before that jjp made distributors sign a new contract not allowing them to offer any type of discount or free shipping. I called around and found a deal elsewhere, so I’m just curious if this guy is just making this up or if it’s true what he’s telling me.

From what I've been told, they can't discount the game. Shipping is something they can play around with though. Keep in mind, this money then comes out of the distributor's pocket. Those guys have to eat too. I find it best to just pony up and pay. You're already spending close to $10k....

I like your office. The ceiling, the stacked stone, the guitars, and of course the future LE!

I don't know the answer, but I'm not sure you'll get it in public.

I agree with this. I’m not concerned with paying the shipping, I was just curious as to what the truth is since I found some that will work on shipping with me, while my past distributor wouldn’t do anything better for a returning customer. Not a big deal either way. Was just more curious if he was lying to me. I bought my other jjp games from him, and both times he lied about a couple things with both games. Thanks guys. Happy with my new distributor so far.

OK, so since this IS an owners thread after all, I think I should post some early learnings.

1. When you remove the huge packing foam around Axl, check the switch wires. For me one of them (Guitar lock entry) was pressed down by the foam and was shorted closed. Just a simple adjustment to get the wire off the switch bracket.

2. After a a couple days, the spinning record became wobbly. Just needed to tighten the screw under the PF.

3. Did have one reset today while playing Patience. Not sure if they can send the log over WiFi to Keith or they need it?

4. I think all playfields are the same (except CE Glitter obviously). See the Coma lock under the LE apron?

Loving the game and will have a few friends over again tomorrow to play.

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Shame covering up artwork like that.

Wow...that room is gonna look fantastic! Unfortunately, I would have to disassemble the game (playfield, backbox, and cabinet) to get it downstairs. I’ve done it with modern Sterns which is a pain but not too bad. Any idea how hard it would be with a JJP?

It’d be a lot of work (at least for me) but you could make a custom apron to show it off. I look at it as just another hidden thing on the playfield that is cool to occasionally discover.

From what I've read it's about the same as a Stern complexity wise, albeit heavier...label everything before disconnecting, I just take a lot of pictures and use numbered electrician label tapes.

The one on location by me did this as well and eventually caused ball hangups. JJP sent out a fix and I wonder if this is going to be an ongoing problem.

For those of you who already have it in house, how does travel work? Do the little lights show you where you are, or have been?

I tell you man the JJP hate train on Pinside is rough. The people who are shitting on GNR are the same people who say Iron Maiden is the second coming of pinball.

That is one rule that I need to lean more about. The cities on the map turn green with you have been there, but I'm not sure the scoring benefits, importance, etc.

Thanks! I heard on one of the streams that there were some “power ups” for the band members associated with it. Can’t wait to dig in myself.

How do you advance cities? How does that factor into getting to wizard modes?

I want to know how they got that cat to walk upright?