Quoted from PantherCityPins:

I haven't seen any masks here locally that can be sanitized with a liquid and reused.
I have been using the same N-95 mask for a week because it's all I have. My brother in law is sending me a box of 9 masks that he has from a construction site. I am going to take one and give the other 8 to the local ER guys.

Quoted from arcademojo:

I wonder if a UV light would work?

Quoted from arcademojo:

Why wait? I started wearing one today when I had to go out. Ordered a pack of 20 off eBay also. I'll have enough to wear one a day at work now.

Quoted from PtownPin:

I think your a little confused....its simple math....u can sell your house in Cal for 3-5X what it would cost in Utah, AZ, NV....therefore u cash out, and retire in places like Utah, NV, and AZ.....personally I'm on the same program, but it will be Idaho (Jackson) in the summer, and AZ in the winter....

Quoted from o-din:

Seriously, the last few days is the closest it has come to the California I remember from my childhood.
So many idiots have moved here from wherever and whatever, and now there has been barely a peep or any of them in sight.

Quoted from finman2000:

In what state do they have roadblocks?

Quoted from Jaybird815:

The truth is this started in China

Quoted from dirkdiggler:

Anyone else find it strange that Russia hasn't really said anything about the caronavirus? Is it because they keep their people inside their borders and no one travels there?

Quoted from titanpenguin:

Just a thought. How bad are countries that deal with malaria getting hit with COVID-19?

Quoted from BobSacamano:

Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines.
https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856
Welp.

Quoted from Colsond3:

True, but we could get this thing under wraps if we were all truly vigilant.
Do you know what scares the hell out of me? Nothing that would happen to me from this, even death.
I have a 6 year-old daughter, not 7 until July. She has pretty bad asthma. Anything happening to her, or me feeling bad for the person at the hospital that tells me I’m not allowed to be in a room with her if it came to that. There is no fucking way I would leave her alone to deal with anything from this. That is my biggest fear.

Quoted from titanpenguin:

Thailand, Singapore and Vietnam are top travel destinations in addition to the US, South Korea and Italy. So how are the first three fairing? Those are in malaria hot spots.

Quoted from Coindork:

In your initial post you said Spain.
FYI although they are both in the European Union, Spain and Italy are in FACT entirely different countries.
Still a shit situation.

Quoted from ImNotNorm:

Previous generations we're asked to sacrifice their lives to win a war. The least we can do is sit on the couch to win this one.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

But but but....I thought masks dont help?

Quoted from swampfire:

Looking ahead a bit, here’s my worry. We’ve heard very little about the long-term endgame for this war. We get a shot for seasonal flu, but the virus evolves so it’s not 100% effective. But the death rate is relatively low, so we accept that. If this CORONAvirus evolves and we get hit with an epidemic of this mutation just as they’ve worked out the vaccine for the first one, are we going to be playing cat and mouse with this for the next 5, 10, 20 years? Is it a permanent part of our lives now?

Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Works when everyone wears them!
After going through this several times, they learned.
We didnt, or chose not to listen.

Quoted from BobSacamano:

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Quoted from Utesichiban:

This year wasn't that accurate but getting the flu shot will reduce severity and symptoms in most patients even if the vaccine wasn't a great match.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

How long can we continue to be in lockdown like this until we have a total economic collapse and go into a depression? Serious question. I gotta believe we are only weeks away.

Quoted from ImNotNorm:

Yea I agree about the image and didn't believe it to begin with. Just like most stuff posted online. But I did look up some of them just like ForceFlow pointed out.
I find it alarming. You find it's a coincidence.
Let's meet half way and call it an alarming coincidence. Lol

Quoted from loneacer:

The sad thing about that is that the US had the most advance warning of all the countries.

Quoted from o-din:

Apparently the stock market is in sudden denial.

Quoted from Pinfactory2000:

A couple of those CEO's did actually resign over the last few months. Regardless its a meaningless stat. There are THOUSANDS of CEO's in the US.
McDonalds came out with changes to the Big Mac right as the virus hit...CONSPIRACY!!

Quoted from o-din:

So much free time I just shredded every paper that needed to be shredded. Hate when that shit piles up.
You know when go thru old files and shred, you have way too much time on your hands.
I figure I don't any more reminders of 2008 hanging around.

Quoted from PinLen83:

Man...this thread is a SHIT SHOW.

Quoted from snyper2099:

I just hope that some kind of effective treatment is discovered. Now in the US, people are dying at a clip of 100+ per day. How many more have to die each day for people to comply with the lockdowns put in place? More than 300? I know most are complying but I have seen first hand with my own eyes TODAY, that a large percentage of people are carrying on like an emergency is not here. Shame on you.
I please ask that people do what they can to help not be a part of the problem. It’s just as important as directly saving someone’s life. Please don’t leave blood on your hands, not complying with orders because of American pride. Please do these things even if you don’t want to and don’t think it’s making a difference. Please.

Quoted from Zablon:

Today someone I work with said she was going to see her mom this weekend because she's had medical issues and is trying to keep her isolated. I'm sitting there thinking...so why are you going to see her then? smh.

Quoted from o-din:

Just a guy that has to keep track of three generations worth of dealings starting in 1922. Really don't need those cancelled checks and statements from the 20th century anymore. Or much over 7 years old.

Quoted from Colsond3:

Georgia’s Stonehenge! Watched a two hour special on Discovery about it. Pretty cool.

Quoted from Coindork:

So are the sky’s in California looking cleaner as a result of this?

Quoted from cottonm4:

Rare earth metals and alloys that contain them are used in many devices that people use every day such as computer memory, DVDs, rechargeable batteries, cell phones, catalytic converters, magnets, fluorescent lighting and much more.

Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

True, but we dont have the processes and the labor/factory to manufacture the next round.
Me last round of labor before I retired was $.35 hour Far Rural China, to $1.35 for tech assembly
Would we be willing to pay 5-10 times the price for our goods?

Quoted from cottonm4:

Then why are we bothering to import 80% of what we need?

Quoted from Who-Dey:

So what am i supposed to about my dried up hands that I have from washing the shit out of them so much???? And don't say lotion either because while it helps it isnt helping enough. My hands feel like alligator skin dammit!!

Quoted from o-din:

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Quoted from Oaken:

Cycle this until we get to vaccine, more effective treatment, or herd immunity.

Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

I think someone started a thread about buying Masks and got skewered in january.

Quoted from PantherCityPins:

N-95s are not needed for the average citizen and if people buy up N-95s that means there won’t be any for the healthcare workers who do need them. A simple surgical mask will do fine for the average citizen going about their day in the public.
N-95s have to be fit to the face and you have to know your size for them to be truly effective. Docs wear them when performing high risk procedures like intubations. Please don’t go out and buy N-95s. Donate them to hospitals.

Quoted from Zablon:

What about body condoms?

Quoted from swampfire:

But a virus is very very tiny. It's not a chemical where you can mitigate harm by blocking most of it. I think the virus goes through an N95 mask as easily as a neutrino goes through our bodies.

Quoted from RWH:

I've never smelled any of the ammonia when using them.

Quoted from FYMF:

I'm taking Doctors advice ("spiel,") over the fellow who taught 120 people how to put on PPE.
Not sure about you all but I am on my 15th day of volunteer isolation. I remember a Doctor recommending that back then somewhere.

Quoted from FYMF:

You and people with your thought process will have blood on your hands.
Sleep well

Quoted from FYMF:

Hows that prevention working out?
Build you a time machine and go back a 3 weeks and spread your word of N95 need and it would make sense.
Your fuck it we should all just buy N95s and go about our life attitude will lead to additional spread and additional death. Including healthcare professionals who couldnt get proper PPE because of people like you.
Again. This is the reality of where we are at now. Prevention? Jesus you're late to the dance.

Quoted from phil-lee:

Bless your heart

Quoted from pinball_ric:

So the CDC is now reporting that the virus has been found on the Princess cruise ship up to 17 days. That's a pretty damn long time for the virus to be on a surface.
Also if these PPE's are so great and prevent the transmission why are healthcare workers contracting the disease and dying? Perhaps they help but they certainly doesn't seem to be fool proof.

Quoted from Zablon:

Don't mind him. He means well, he's just afraid, like many.

Quoted from Zablon:

Your knowledge is conspiratory. That's not knowledge, that's speculation. It is the product of fear.

Quoted from PinballNewb:

I’d be more concerned about the children of the corn vs covid.

Quoted from arcademojo:

Great article Levi. Should be book marked.
Just a rant on a side note. As you said many of the younger workers that are not full time make very little an hour. The $2 an hour temp raise is nice but compared to the $600 additional on top of regular unemployment benefits we got screwed. Heck even I would make better being unemployed. We have to be here mingling with the public worrying about catching this thing on a daily basis and most are making less then people laid off in the safety of there own home. Many of us older employees fall into the high risk territory. Heck one of my workers is 72. Doubt he would make it if he gets sick. Here is my daily attire for work. Glasses to help from getting it my eyes, face mask, gloves, work jacket no matter how hot it is and hat. I keep that stuff I’m my car so Less chance of bringing it in my house.
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Quoted from Reality_Studio:

I like to think that good things can come from bad, so I'm hoping this event can help accelerate the departure from gas cars which cause so much pollution and medical issues, and hopefully proper internet is made a priority for everyone so people can work from home. It's basically impossible now to deny how much damage gas cars do to the air, and there's simply no need for every single person to drive to work every day when much of what people do can be done at home with video conferencing.

Quoted from rotordave:

Pretty funny reading this thread and the talk of getting fast food, eating in restaurants, shopping etc. I cracked up at all those exceptions to the lockdown in Dallas that someone posted - “big box retail” can open? WTF! Pointless.
Here’s what’s happening in New Zealand.
Last Weds 11.59pm - the whole country was locked down for 4 weeks.
- Every store is closed - except supermarkets, pharmacies, gas stations and a couple of others, all operated on a one out - one in basis. No burgers. No coffee shops. No Walmart type stores. Nothing. All closed. No buses or trains either.
- People shopping stand 2m apart, no direct contact with employees.
- everyone is staying at home. If you want some exercise, you can walk around the block but keep 2m away from anyone.
- government is paying employers $580 a week subsidy for each employee to cover three months work. My brother owns a furniture store with a number of staff - he filled in a form Tuesday and had $60,000 in his account Wednesday.
- pretty much everyone is doing as they have been told. Anyone who doesn’t makes the National news and gets shamed out - like just before, we had the prime minister saying “some guys went in a group to a store to buy mince pies!” Lol.
- Internet usage is running at almost full capacity
- Three days in (its Saturday here) the infected numbers only increased the same as yesterday - ie it didn’t double. 80 more cases yesterday, 80 more today. Too early to tell, but that’s positive.
- no deaths here so far. Only 2 in intensive care, both with existing conditions to complicate things.
- almost all the 450 existing cases are from people who came here from overseas. Either kiwis returning after vacation, or tourists.
- government flagged that even if our 4 week lockdown is a success, overseas travel might be out for 12-18 months.
Lots of time on our hands to fix pinball machines ...
Here’s Auckland busiest motorway yesterday:
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Quoted from Asael:

Saw the press conference of your president Trump. I don't want to say he's lying, but he said they want to built 100000 ventilators, or have I misunderstood something?
Today I read an new interview here in germany with Stefan Dräger, he is the boss of "Drägerwerk". They are the biggest ventilator builting company here in germany and perhaps in the world. And he explained why it's so hard to built more of these. Mercedes and other car companies had offered help. But he don't think that they can help: „You cannot have a baby in one month by impregnating nine women“. He said in this interview that they need essential parts from the whole world to built these ventilators, even from new zealand. And he said that if there will be a fight between the countrys over the parts, it is possible that no one will get anymore ventilators. And he said that he doesn't think that it will be possible for the USA to get 100000 ventilators over the next year cause this would be almost the capacity of all manufacturer in the world together.
I don't know if he is right. Just want to let you know about the interview. That doesn't look good to me, I thought this virus could bring all countrys in the world more together to fight this, now I am starting to think it will be the opposite.
Sry, the interview is only in german language:
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article206850889/Beatmungsgeraete-Nachfrage-uebersteigt-Produktion-bei-Weitem-sagt-Hersteller.html

Quoted from tiltmonster:

Aren't masks for people who are sick and not for people who are worried about getting sick? I thought the idea of masks was to keep your germs/illness/contagion from spreading to others.
From World Health Organization:
If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.
When I see people with mask I think they may be ill... idk?

Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

So today, we have a National Story of a Quarantine possible for the North East.
Maybe only 2 weeks.
So I can sleep better. Which Direction are we heading, from the top?
Are we United in Quarantining, and using methods seen in South Korea and Singapore,
or are we done, and its open season?
Zero Criticism here...Just looking for the same answer since January. It changes often,
and Im unsure.

Quoted from Sinistarrett:

Ha Ive watched a couple of that guys videos. Hes pretty intense.

Quoted from manadams:

I would find a story about a rural area that didn't get slammed but the media usually doesn't bother with boring stuff like that. PPE is going to get used as a precaution even if they get a surge of people who think they have it but end up testing negative.

Quoted from Ed209:

I’m 43, wife is 45, kid 11.
Day 1: Started with a small cough that I thought was just from allergies that usually hit me this time a year. Left for work one morning feeling fine then around 3 started to get lightheaded and dizzy after having long conversations. Rushed home and within four hours was in bed with phenomena like symptoms. Lots of growing pressure in the lungs, trouble getting enough oxygen when I breathed, fever, dizzy. Next morning my body felt like it had gone through a war, coughing up a storm and just felt really weak. Slowly improved that day. Lungs still had lots of pressure, coughing a shit load but nothing was loosening up.
Day 2-5: Over the next few days the pressure in the lungs started to dissipate and I started to feel better but still would have waves of fatigue. One day it got so bad I had to lie down after pouring myself a bowl of cereal. The fatigue waves lasted for about 3 days and my cough started to shift from dry to wet. Finally whatever was in my lungs was starting to loosen up and I was spitting out clear phlegm.
Day 6-7: Worried I was beginning to relapse. Lungs felt like sandpaper, pressure was returning slightly and the fatigue was so bad I was couch locked for the majority of it. FaceTimed with my parents one day to give them an update on how we were doing and let them chat with their grandkid and it just exhausted me from just talking.
Day 8: Energy returned but my lungs felt destroyed. Hurt to take deep breaths and when I did there was this weird additional breath noise. Luckily that progressively improved over the last week and I’m almost back to 100%.
Wife also had the fatigue and fever but luckily no lung, just GI issue. Strangely I only had hot flashes, no sustained high fever, just small spikes that only lasted a few mins.
It was the weirdest sickness I’ve ever experienced. Usually I feel it in my sinuses with a cold or sick to my stomach with a flu. This just felt like something was attacking my lungs, everything else felt fine. Right away I suspected we had COVID19 so warned everyone I had been in contact with and the family immediately went into quarantine before we were even tested. Someone tested positive in our building the week before and I use the same elevator.
Pro tip: Get a pen with a cap to travel around with. Take the cap off to push buttons and put it back on when you’re done.

Quoted from PantherCityPins:

This would cause severe burns in the trachea. Remember, UV light is what causes sunburns.

Quoted from PantherCityPins:

With all due respect, you don’t get it.
The article you cite is talking about inactivating viruses in the air. NOT inside the lungs. Bleach also inactivates viruses in the environment but no one is suggesting that you aerosolize bleach and have patients inhale it. You will KILL the patient.

Quoted from jamesmc:

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Quoted from o-din:

That's how this virus started?

Quoted from cdnpinballer:

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Quoted from o-din:

The squirrels in my back yard look really healthy. Doesn't mean they aren't carrying the plague.

Quoted from o-din:

Yes, I like the crows much better than the squirrels. But I think I might be getting them trained finally.

Quoted from mcluvin:

I thought squirrel was breaded and fried, then served with gravy? Never had crow. They are smart though.

Quoted from arcademojo:

Perdue plant employees walk out over COVID-19 concerns
https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/perdue-employees-walk-out-as-coronavirus-concerns-grow/93-7c7bdcbb-f3ec-439b-b541-9070e758b5cb?fbclid=IwAR32qAIx54ZC5tneH4Xf1PHK4B5Y-DFkB1eCbHbHlxmiPoGvkyxledrjOWk

Quoted from o-din:

I don't know about squirrels and crows, but I just had a huge raccoon walk right up my driveway to me standing in the garage.
I mumbled something and pointed over to where the food is, and he went that way.

Quoted from arcademojo:

Someone is making a killing. $35 a mask and 53 sold! They were $15 for 10 at Home Depot before this started.
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Quoted from Pickle:

So what really grinds my gears about this whole stimulus package is I pay taxes just like everyone else.....you know what I get....NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH....why because someone decides if you make X amount you don’t qualify. Why should I even pay taxes if I get no benefit from it when I could use it just like most others....I don’t make hundreds of thousands or millions...those folks could care less about $1200. Was not married when I filed my taxes but I am now and I know what she makes and we would have qualified and gotten $2400....WTF!!! It makes no sense. Pisses me off...throwing money at people is not the answer anyway....

Quoted from Utesichiban:

I think they would have better off getting this money to unemployment agencies to ensure it gets to the right people. Those being people losing jobs right now that may have problems paying for rent/mortgage and/or food.
What I think is completely misguided is spending all that money with the intent of "stimulating" the economy. No one can travel, go out for entertainment, restaurants, etc right now so how is that money going to stimulate the economy? Unless people are going to use for rent or food, most will either save it or use it to pay off debt. That won't stimulate the economy and so the money could be used elsewhere IMO.