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#23 4 years ago

I was laid off on Monday, originally we thought it would be until May 1st. I was told yesterday from a coworker that we will be closed until June 15th now.

That means I’ll be off for 12 weeks. I’d rather be working then not working, but it’s not even like anyone will be hiring in this climate.

I sold my GoT pre a month age because in 2019 I took a significant financial hit. I’m glad that I didn’t wait until now to sell, because I think it would be more difficult now. 2020 is shaping up to be another tough year for me.

#1090 4 years ago

@jlm33 can you post where you found this graphic, or find an updated one for us please?

Deaths happen about 15 days after you show symptoms. I think that this graph is the most telling one we’ve seen yet. It clearly shows the exponential growth, how Italy is a week or two ahead of the rest of the world, and that South Korea is the only country to flatten the curve in any way.

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(sorry it's in French, Etats-Unis stands for USA).

#1795 4 years ago

My best friend teaches in China, we chat on Skype regularly. His girlfriend is Russian, she went home to ger parents place before the Chinese New Year celebrations and then Russia closed the border into China. She’s hasn’t been able to return to China even though she’s lived there for almost a decade. He said China is now struggling to find English teachers because so many went home once the schools closed. Also he said that his girlfriend is just as fearful of the virus as the rest of the world. Russia might not be giving numbers to the international community but it is definitely reacting to the virus.

Another article i came across mentioned that in China there have been 21 million cell phone plan cancellations in the last while, which might be a more accurate death toll number since a cell phone is so integral to Chinese life. (The article wasn’t from a well known website, so I won’t post the link. You can google it). I just have a feeling that China would do something like lie about the total number of deaths to international news.

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#2311 4 years ago

Heres one my buddy from china just sent me.

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#3443 4 years ago

That total death rate number at 16% is a little unnerving

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#3493 4 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Isnt free Money, Socialism? Every day, Fox was telling me this.

This is a slippery slope; trust me I'm a Canadian.

The government helping out people on mass...eventually you get the feeling that the government cares about your well being. Next thing you know people start caring about their neighbors instead of themselves. Before you know it you'll be loving your neighbors not fearing them.

Trust me you dont want that to happen.

#3498 4 years ago
Quoted from goingincirclez:

I am planning to dig up the spare masks I had from a recent DIY jackhammering project and forward to her.

I have about 20 of the n95 masks in my shop. I asked my buddy if his wife, a nurse, wanted them. He said they're not allowed to bring their own masks into the hospital and because it's an opened box the hospital cant take them; because the might not be sterile.

I guess I'll hold onto them for friends and family.

#3501 4 years ago
Quoted from wrb1977:

A TRUE LOCKDOWN IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE. In theory, yes, it would be effective. But the reality of a “true” lockdown is a fantasy

The more you press down the more things will squish out the sides. Combined with hundreds of years of "dont tread on me" attitude wont stop the outbreak.

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#3511 4 years ago

Everyone that wants to just go back to normal asap;
doesn't get it yet.

This has changed the world. This is a waypoint in history like 911. You will be able to remember a time before Cov-19, and a time after. Nothing will be "like the way it was before".

#3523 4 years ago
Quoted from goingincirclez:

A fair point but I work with her husband and he said she's worried about PPE and masks.
Which is the greater evil: not having a mask, or having one you didn't personally make and sterilize yourself? When hospitals are running out anyway, and people are making masks out of fabric, and/or considering "washing" used ones, that's a bigger problem than donated masks in their original packaging. So I figure it better to at least make the offer. I don't need them anymore, and certainly not for life/death. My concrete project can wait. If they are turned down then that's not on me, I did what I could.

To clarify his wife is in the maternity ward, not in the ER. With new born infants they probably want to be safe with where they get their equipment from.

#3736 4 years ago
Quoted from loneacer:

I heard last week about pork futures or something plummeting last week. They were saying herds would swell in a few months and meat would be dirt cheap.

Mmmmmm. Bacon

#3790 4 years ago

Disney is re-releasing mulan this summer. Will they bring back schezuan sauce with the movie. Could it be a covid cure.

Only rick and morty will know for sure.

#4608 4 years ago

The first picture was Thursday at 8am. The second is 60 hours later. Almost 200k more cases and 8k more deaths. It was over 60 days to reach the first 200k.
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#4969 4 years ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Can someone post the link(s) to the best website that’s has the daily updates to the graphs showing cases and deaths for countries and states?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

#5166 4 years ago

...keep the projected death toll below 100 000.

So does that mean their assuming that’s we will get to 100 000 easily without lockdown?

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The more I look at these numbers, the more I think China lied about their totals. China only had 2 deaths /1M pop. That number is WAY better than any other country. The death rate is going to be very scary on this. I think the storm coming is going to be worse then the media is letting on. There’s more to this then what the general population knows. Be scared. Stay home.

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#5586 4 years ago

At this rate my yard will be ready for summer before april. I got all of the brush burned today. Just have to fill some leaf bags tomorrow

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#5785 4 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

I've been cutting my own hair for years now. Cutting is an overstatement, running the clippers over my own hair for years is more accurate.

Now the hair is so little that I just bic it in the shower. I haven’t payed for a haircut in decades.

#5790 4 years ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

None of this will ever be over until we have a vaccine. Then it will be over.

I quickly see a world where this is liken to chicken pox. Everyone will get it sooner of later....flatten the curve....spread out the rare of infection. This isn’t to reduce the number of sick, it’s to reduce the number of sick all at once. Sooner or later we’ll start having conversations like this with friends.

“did you get the covid yet?”
“Oh ya, I had it six months ago, it was the worst.”
“I’m glad your well, my aunt just got it. I don’t think she’ll make it.”

Don’t be fooled. A vaccine will not come quick enough for most. Millions will die. Either it’s over 3 months or 3 years. The push to make ventilators won’t save all the lives. Currently if your bad enough to be put on a ventilator, then you have less then a 20% chance of making it through. The death rate of infected is much higher then China ever reported.

Stay home. Be safe

#5791 4 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

Evolution states that an organism that can adapt to a change in environment survives while one that can’t adapt or adapts less well dies out.

Evolution is inevitable. Your ability to adapt is not.

#5795 4 years ago

I’ve played enough Plague inc. on my iPad to know that covid-19 is a winning game. The objective of that game is to infect the world before people find a cure.

I heard the game has been removed from app stores in China because it was causing too much fear.

If you have never played it. Give it a try. It’s a fun strategy game and might be eye opening for some on what we’re in for.

#5855 4 years ago

Here’s an informative video, it’s a bit long but worth it

#5867 4 years ago

Hey, I just got my government mail today too

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#6098 4 years ago
Quoted from robertmee:

So you're expecting 32 million deaths worldwide?

Quoted from PinJim:

I’ll run the math tomorrow.

Quick math In my head the other day I estimated 300 million. But I’d prefer someone more educated then I am to tell me a better number. Because that freaks me out.

#6147 4 years ago

April 1st numbers so far today. Lots of countries haven’t reported today yet.

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#6148 4 years ago

Just read a national post article. In Canada this expected to last until July at the earliest

https://apple.news/AqffDbILiRXKwbv6mOVN33A

#6382 4 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

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We’ve all collectively agreed that schools are non essential, but alcohol stores are.

#6402 4 years ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

Did I have it? I'd love to know.

Last week of Jan I was down in the Caribbean with 14 people. When we came home about 1/2 of us were sick for a week of so. I was fine, but a couple of us were fairly sick.

Did I have it, I’d love to know.

#6460 4 years ago

Don’t only blame China for giving false numbers.

Here in Ontario it was reported yesterday That there is a discrepancy in the number of deaths reported. The difference between the provinces numbers and the added up totals for each municipality is over 30 people. The province said that retirement homes totals might not yet be included in their totals, but that only accounts for like 15 of the 30 in recorded deaths.

#6552 4 years ago
Quoted from wrb1977:

Weather forecasting is clearly more advanced in Canada than here in the US.

My local news gives 3 weather reports. One for the south by Detroit. One local to us, and the third is up north in cottage country. Probably 400km from one side of the area to the other, so naturally the wether would be different in your area.

#6557 4 years ago

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#6753 4 years ago
Quoted from cait001:

Dark thoughts

Pinside has ~65000 members.
If 30% get the virus that’s 19500 in our community
If 5% of them pass away. That’s a thousand pinheads lost.

#7210 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

We would need to see about 3,000 per day for the next 60 days to get there

It's called exponential growth. The big numbers come closer to the end. Ya dont just level off.

#7870 4 years ago

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#7987 4 years ago

Well it looks like stairs were the weekend project. I painted the walls, currently working on trim, and still need to sand, stain and finish the steps with polyurethane or something. Still lots of touch up to deal with.
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Back on topic. Here’s the daily totals so far. Those graph lines are pointed up on a pretty steep angle.
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#7991 4 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

Is it too early to start drinking?

No. These are unprecedented times, anything is possible.

#8053 4 years ago

I always thought of unions as one of the pillars of society. The others being corporations and governments. They each work as checks and balances against each other. Not really needed in a covid thread.

I’m indifferent. I had one friend who went through some hard personal times. His union helped him keep his job. I have a different friend that is part of a union that is being run very poorly financially and ethicality! He started looking for work outside the union right before this mess all started.

#8055 4 years ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Don’t forget a free press!

Good call.

#8059 4 years ago
Quoted from smalltownguy2:

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been moved into the ICU....

He’s high risk. I’m sure he’s getting the best care available, but even that might not be enough.

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#8108 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I only listen to what Dr. Seuss has to say in times like these.

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#8227 4 years ago
Quoted from Tubes:

Science is an arbitrary construct.

Science is a process of finding correct answers. Nothing more, nothing less. It is not an arbitrary construct

#8232 4 years ago

My buddy in china sent me this article today. Its front a chinese news source describing how different news outlets lie to you.

It's in english.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/myQn0D0IdeROBe42kFUVkg

#8235 4 years ago

From my previous link

Why lie? (a brief history)

Sometime in the 1960s the Networks realized that over 60% of their profits came from news. Growing up, I had believed that "News" and "Entertainment" were separate things. The truth, it seems has been that "news" is a form of entertainment. It is also a 

tool used to control what facts and information people have access to. More importantly, it is a profit generating mechanism for media moguls like Rupert Murdoc. 

In the 70s and 80s competition between news networks became more intense and eventually lead to sensationalism and spin to reach more of an audience and sway opinions in a general direction. Instead of just reporting facts, it was found that by 

emotionally charging an argument, they could increase viewership.

Types of Lies

There are a number of ways in which media lies to you. Sometimes directly, other times indirectly.

Truth by Repitition - This kind of lie is when something is repeated enough times, particularly a headline, so that the actual truth becomes irrelevant. This can be attributed to a human flaw known as "confirmation bias". If a "fact" is confirmed enough times by enough sources it becomes subjectively true. In this case, one cannot blame the media directly, except for their own eagerness to "get the story out". Remember, they are in the business of making money. After you read the first story, subsequent stories will likely only get a "headline" view

Lie by Deflection - This is when media sources deliberately report on information that is not relevant or attempt to distract from factual information by creating an emotional spin on it. This happens when the people in charge want to push their opinion on their readers and form an "Us against them" with their readers. Watch out for the next lie, because it often is found in the same agency, and next to the deflection.

Lie by Omission - This is when important and relevant facts are deliberately removed from an article to focus on the agenda the reporting agency has in mind. Support this candidate, hate this person, or even buy this product, amongst other things, are all agendas networks and news have pushed.

Focus on Opinion - is a lie where the media repeats its news and offers no dissenting views, particularly when it comes to reporting on an opinion piece. The objective here is to isolate people whose ideas differ from the reporting agency and magnify the representation of ideas they want to go through. Liberal news talks with liberal supporters to show how many people support liberal ideas. As does conservative news. This lie is often followed up with "Truth by Repetition". Together, they create an environment that the reader may be in a minority opinion group, and thus more willing to "go with the flow" of the majority.

Distortion of Fact - is when the media reports heavily on facts as though they are far more important than they actually are.

Misrepresentation of Facts - this is classic "taking out of context" to purposefully or inadvertently change the meaning of factual

Sensationalism - is when the news reported has wording meant to excite its reader. 

Spin - is when the "direction" of the news is turned towards something else. An example might be that, instead of focusing on a particular fault of their own, a company may redirect attention to the shortcomings of a competitor.

Truth and Fiction - The best lies are told with a grain of truth. This is when news presents some factual information with added information that is not true. Usually it serves the purpose of guiding the viewer into having a particular opinion about the subject. The factual information lends credibility to the fictional information. In the end, people tend to forget information and remember more of a feeling about something. Therefore, once this information is proven false, most people are still left with the original impression the article gave them, thereby distorting their opinion of the subject unfairly.

Lies through "Trolling" and Commentary - Modern media has had the onslaught of people able to express their opinions and views on reported information. If you think these are all honest individuals you are mistaken. If you think they're just people with a sick sense of humor, you are also wrong. Here are some reference articles that talk about it:

https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-things-you-learn-getting-paid-to-troll-peopleonline/

http://politicalomnivore.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-do-i-get-paid-to-be-on-linetroll.html

I would like to note at the end of the second link's article, the author personally does not feel paid trolling is an extensive business. As I'm inclined to agree, I would still like to point out that in some cases I also believe there have been incidents. Here is a link to an article on Snopes.com (link below) that asserts protestors received money, but were not "paid".

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/paid-protesters-kavanaugh-hearings/

While this kind of thing may be rare, it still occurs. Furthermore, as the posters are not really held accountable for expressing their opinions or "facts", it is often dismissed. Regardless, it does have an impact on a reader's interpretation of an article. 

The main point here is that there are many ways in which the media either deliberately or inadvertently lies to

What is the Problem exactly?

Much of the problem with all this lies in a relaxing of Ethics in Journalism by governing bodies. After all, if journalism is a category of entertainment, there is no need to legislate or control what is actually said. As media moguls are in private business to turn profit, they are free to report on whatever they wish and in the manner they see will turn that profit. Ethics in Journalism ceases to exist because it's just another private business. Asking the government to handle journalism isn't a solution either as thegovernment is seen as having its own agenda to push. There needs to be a clear distinction between news and entertainment and the articles presented as news should aptly reflect the same ethical standards of teachers and reference materials (such as old school encyclopedias). The articles that are presented for entertainment need to be clearly labeled as such and recognized as an unreliable source of information. Facts need to be presented without bias, without emotional language, and without spin or other forms of misdirection.

Here is a list from the Ethical Journalism Network (EJN) on what ethical journalism is:

1) Truth and Accuracy

2) Independence

3) Fairness and Impartiality

4) Humanity

5) Accountability

You can read the full article here: 

https://ethicaljournalismnetwork.org/who-we-are/5-principles-of-journali

What Can I Do About It?

As modern journalism seems to further lack standards, let alone ethics it becomes important that readers in general take up some fact-checking on their own. Here are some strategies to confirm factual information from fictional accounts.

No.1

Read articles from conflicting sources. That is, find any two articles on a topic from two sources whose motivation is opposed. Perhaps an article from Fox and CNN about the same event. The truth will be on the shared information they agree on. Everything else is garbage meant to cater to the reader's sense of right or wrong. The more articles you read on a particular story, from differing sources, the more you'll be able to find the "common thread" connection. Those are likely the facts. It's been argued recently about where COVID-19 started. However, what every source agrees on is that the first known outbreak started in Wuhan China. No one disagrees about that. As you explore this, you will find, little by little, what is actually known and what is speculation. 

No.2

Look for articles that post their references and sources. Check on those sources. Most writers know you aren't likely to read twenty articles to fact check them or their interpretation of an article they read. Yet that is exactly what you need to do. Why is this source credible? How does the author make that particular statement? Why does the author say this? 

No.3

Shared opinions doesn't equal a fact. Realize the difference between subjective reality and objective reality. Sharing a subjective reality can make you feel connected but it won't do anything to help you find the truth. Unfortunately, too many people enjoy living in a bubble reality where everyone agrees with them and they don't have to support their statements. Too many people don't like to have their beliefs challenged and go into cognitive dissonance when they are presented with facts that don't match their reality. Don't be among them. Keep an open mind.

No.4

Learn more about critical thinking. Openly challenge ideas and information until you can prove it to yourself. Know what it will take to prove something to you. Set your own standard, but do so earnestly. If information presented qualifies your pre-set condition 

of proof, then accept you were wrong. Neil deGrasse Tyson tells a story in his MasterClass (available on the website: Masterclass.com) about a man that wanted proof of the moon landing. Neil asked him what he would need to prove the moon landing. The man said he would need a photograph. When Mr. Tyson presented the evidence, it was still not enough. The point of this is, there is no way to prove something to someone that wants to believe otherwise. Incidentally, I highly recommend Mr. Tyson's "Scientific Teaching" masterclass.

No.5

Eye-witness testimony is worthless unless it's your own or been documented via video where you can also see and evaluate what happened.Understand however, even videos can be subject to the above "Lies" and misrepresentation.

No.6

Ask yourself, why is this news and what is the article's agenda? Are they honestly trying to share information with me or is it geared towards a particular opinion? How many adjectives are used in this article and for what purpose? Yes, adjectives indicate subjective truth, and in the case of factual information, irrelevant: does it matter what race or color the man who robbed the bank was? However, it might make a difference when reporting that a suspect is wanted for questioning and in giving a description so as to track them down.

About the Author:

I am not a reporter. I am not a journalist. I am a freelance writer. I write under the pen-name Victor. I do not have a "rosey-view" of the world as has been suggested by some commentators, but I do believe in the better nature and logic of mankind. People do what they do for a purpose, usually to meet some need they have that is lacking otherwise. Before you judge someone, consider where they have been and what they have learned in their lives. Conflict is resolved by understanding, not accusing or judging. Likewise, I am not perfect. I'm just another person wandering this road and trying to make sense of it.

#8259 4 years ago
Quoted from loneacer:

I wish I would have anticipated the great jigsaw puzzle bubble of 2020. I dug this one out of the closet that I bought in 2014 and never opened. Somebody bought it yesterday. With shipping and tax, they paid $82. Just unreal.[quoted image]

I think that a good middle man should add value. Not just inflate price.

Added in edit:
A very good friend of mine used to flip pinball machines. Buy a game, talk down the seller a couple hundred bucks. Play it for 2 weeks then sell it for hundreds more then the previous transaction. He didnt fix the games up. He didnt love pinball. He was just in it for profit. Really pissed me off

I'm glad hes no longer into pinball. Hes now flipping '80s Mustangs.

#8262 4 years ago

I'm trying to wrap my head around these two graphs.

Is this implying in the first graph that 95% of positively tested people have a mild case, and that 5% have serious symptoms. Then the second chart looks like 20% of positive tested people die.

How is it 5% in the first and 20% in the second? I realize the second is for cases with an outcome, but shouldn't the serious cases percentage be close to the fatality percentage?

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#8293 4 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

The governor has not told me I should be taking this drug, cause why not, try it if I like. What do I have to lose? Take it as a precaution!

Hahahaha. Be careful with taking the drugs politicians say are ok. Remember Toronto's old crack head mayor. Rob ford. He's passed away from cancer since then,but it was quite the scandal in it's time.

#8310 4 years ago

Here’s the 1000 pcs I’m doing with my daughter.
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I also have the NYC puzzle that I did years ago, we might build it after this one.

#8347 4 years ago

If it is in fact true that you are immune once the virus has run its course on you; then couldn't the survivors/immune return to work covering as many essential jobs as possible?

#8350 4 years ago
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#8360 4 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Tell me this.
China has a population of 1.3 billion. The US has a population of 327 million.
Why do we suck so bad when compared to a country that has 4 times our population?
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2 reasons.
China has a better control over the population and news propaganda. They were able to FULLY lockdown in the affected area relatively quickly.

China lies about their numbers.

#8400 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballOsp:

I am so befuddled

This is the new world we’re living in now. Some people don’t need facts, all that maters is how they feel.
“I feel fine, I’m going out.” “I don’t feel this is a threat.” “I don’t feel like wearing a mask.”

I was always told. Never argue with an idiot; they’ll beat you down to their level, then they’ll beat you with years of experience.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I do see it as the government's best interest to lie. They will keep lying and bumping the date of "return to normal" to keep panic at a low.

Someone else the other day used the analogy of a frog in boiling water. If you drop a frog into boiling water it will panic. If you place him in warm water and slowly raise the temperature, he will sit there until boiled.

#8425 4 years ago

Today's home education lesson for chemistry. I thought it was a good lesson for a 9 year old that has never baked bread before.

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#8551 4 years ago
Quoted from JodyG:

Have not even had to get gas in over a month, since I live 2 miles from where I work. Kinda cool in that respect, at least.

When I was working, I used a tank of gas everyday. Last time I bought gas was March 15, the day I was told we were closing till June. I still have 1/2 a tank in the van. Actually; Once my gas expense is taken into account, I make just as much on unemployment as I did working.

#8702 4 years ago

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#8709 4 years ago

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#8771 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Well, if nobody did, we wouldn't have much of a thread here now would we?

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#8825 4 years ago

There’s a retirement home here in Ontario. It’s in a small rural community called bobcaygeon. 28 of the 65 residents have passed away in the last week. Nursing homes in the province are letting families remove their parents without loosing their position at the home so they can come back quickly once the virus has passed

#8826 4 years ago
Quoted from jamesmc:

From riding my bike, I see things slowly tightening around here. Day by day, beaches are closed, walk paths are closed. My eyes tell me there is no way CA is opening up on May 1

My wife received a email to print off from her work. It says that she’s an essential worker....my guess is that road blocks will eventually be erected and you’ll need a good reason to pass through.

Quoted from jamesmc:

People wave to me constantly while riding my bike. Before there would be an occasional wave, now people acknowledge more often than not.

I’ve also noticed this while out with the dog.

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#9041 4 years ago

To my religious friends on here. Please don’t go to Easter church services. I understand it’s an important holiday for you but you don’t want to be sitting around the Christmas dinner table looking at empty spots wondering if there was more you could have done.

Thoughts and prayers won’t save lives this time, be safe and keep your loved ones safe too.

#9084 4 years ago

If the lockdown does what it says it should with reducing spread of the virus, then one could assume that if a certain sub sect of the population ignored the lockdown they would be affected more.

Like, if only NHL hockey games were allowed to happen with fans in attendance, you should see more death among the population of hockey fans. More contact to the virus = more people infected = more loss of life. Even though I dont like hockey (even though I'm canadian) I dont want to see any of my hockey loving friends get I'll.

.......don't go to church this weekend.

#9090 4 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

I really hope people heed this warning. I'm down here in the bible belt and the number of churches still planning something is staggering.

My parents are high risk so they are staying home. Their hobby farm is mostly self sufficient, so they are ok to be locked in for weeks.

My sister is a hospital worker and her husband is a firefighter. So they're both smart enough to avoid people whenever possible.

#9334 4 years ago
Quoted from Rezdog:

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Rezdog really does have a key post there. I’m surprised it hasn’t been marked as such.

#9404 4 years ago

So, last night we rented the new trolls movie on Apple TV for $20....why do I have to ever go back to a movie theater again?

If streaming proves profitable, then theaters could be done with.

#9571 4 years ago

Arcade 1up is helping us remember to wash our hands.

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#9603 4 years ago
Quoted from Murphdom:

Hide those pictures someone might rob you for that rubbing alcohol. . I actually read an article the other day where someone’s house was broken into and all their sanitizer, wipes, and toilet paper were stolen. They must have been a hoarder and someone was showing them a lesson.

Flour is also hard to find around here....and your just throwing it on a playfield. It’s like quarantine porn. “Can you mix the rubbing alcohol and flour together and smear it all over your playfield?”

#9653 4 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

What's everyone eating for Easter lunch/dinner today?

Ham, carrots/broccoli, mashed potatoes.

Quoted from Mr68:

If we could just eliminate the penny, that's all I ask.

Canada removed the penny from circulation years ago. If you use cash it gets rounded off to the $.05, if you pay with a card it calculates the same as before.

#9704 4 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

We are having lamb, Passover potatoes, asparagus, deviled eggs, and lemon bars.
I will try to take pics.

My dad was so god fearing that we called them stuffed eggs. I was a teen before I realized that EVERYBODY else called them deviled eggs.

#9711 4 years ago

Jeopardy question for 500pts

What was the first song that I slow danced with a girl to at a public school dance?

She was cute and I was a young 11 year old kid.

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#10285 4 years ago

I was told by email today our shut down was extended from June 15 to June 30. I doubt that parks will be open in July.

#10291 4 years ago
Quoted from toddsolus:

where do you work?
By the way I was just chatting with Moab Adventures...they are taking reservations for river trips starting in the beginning of May...
https://www.moabadventurecenter.com/moab-river-rafting

I work for a cable tv sub contractor. We’re pretty non essential.

In other news I have a plan for later. A White Russian Should help with home schooling.

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#10295 4 years ago
Quoted from smalltownguy2:

but I'm recognizing I have limits

FaceTime, Skype, and Zoom have really helped.

On Friday nights after all the kids have gone to bed we group chat with all out friends. People come and go as they can. We play drinking games. Jack box is also really fun; the meeting host shares their desktop to run the game and everyone else answers on their cell phone. It’s not the best, but it has really helped socialize in a large group of friends.

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#10304 4 years ago
Quoted from wrb1977:

Seriously? We are only one month into this and you are at your limit? US involvement in WWII lasted approximately four years...[quoted image]

Previous generations had to fight and died so that other people could sit safely in their homes.

Now a days people can’t sit safely in their homes so that other people don’t have to fight and die.

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#10411 4 years ago

I was going to make an attacking post, that would have probably got me moderated out of here for a bit.

Instead I’ll say to everyone, please donate to pinside. Even in this time of struggle for so many please give credit where credit is due. If this website is your source of entertainment during the lockdown, then in my humble opinion it’s worth $5 of your cash to keep it running.

#10416 4 years ago

The news tonight said that in Ontario they are only counting deaths that happen in hospitals. So none of the nursing home numbers are included and people that die at home are left out too.

#10501 4 years ago

One plus with everyone wearing masks is that facial recognition software will have a tougher time tracking you.

#10505 4 years ago
Quoted from screaminr:

Over here they're going to track you with your phone so they can work out who's getting infected

Ya, I head about that. I don’t like it at all. The bonus is that it’s supposed to be through Bluetooth and not location data. The draw back if that Bluetooth doesn’t really give you a good measure of interaction. It you pass someone on the other side of the street your chance of contact is minimal, but your Bluetooth range would connect. There’s supposed to be no personal information, but if it doesn’t tell you whom you contacted it from, then how would you be able to know where you got it, or when you got it.

All of this is a moot point. Your phone is always being tracked Already, this new software would just tracks other devices you’ve come into contact with.......doesn’t Facebook basically do this already.

#10508 4 years ago

That’s news, not opinion. I think it should be ok. You didn’t give your personal view, you just linked a news article.

#10606 4 years ago
Quoted from DaveH:

I don't know anything about those particular posts, but that is common on Pinside. The moderators have full rights to just clip posts out of existence. And thank goodness they do. A lot of times they are ads, or spam, or so inflammatory and against the rules that the only solution is to delete it. There was a time where Pinside was getting spammed like crazy. A new account would sign up, and then post 100 spam messages before getting the account frozen and the posts clipped. Normal operations on a moderated internet site as far as I'm concerned. I don't know what those posts are, but I'm sure they should have been there in the first place if a mod deleted them (especially in this thread that is probably as much work as the rest of the site right now).

One was a link to a news story on the guardian. It wasn’t very praising of certain world leaders, to say the least. It was factual and not opinion. My guess is that it was viewed to political and removed.

#10772 4 years ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

For those who want the cliff notes version of the previous 10,000 plus posts in this thread, here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:
1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.
2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.
3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.
4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.
5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.
7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.
8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.
9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.
10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..
12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…
13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don't sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).
14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.
15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.
16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?
17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"
18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.
20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can't go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.
22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.
23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…
24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).
25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?

What a useless post. Intelligent people will see the humor, naive people will disregard the warnings. I understand that no one really knows what’s going on, but I look at your post being very dismissive of the whole situation.

Let me try this out.
1) stairs always go upstairs, unless you need to use them to go down.
2) laundry always goes into the basket, unless it’s laundry day then it goes in the machine.
3) my car always drives flawlessly for hundreds of miles, until it runs out of gas.

Completely useless

#10796 4 years ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

I’ve lived through some major hurricanes in Texas and now watching the virus tear through the world, and I’m here to tell you..ain’t no one coming to save you. When the shit hits the fan, we are all on our own. Having a gun your hand is better than a stick or some rocks.

Maybe it’s a Canadian thing, or a community thing, but I don’t see how a gun would help me or my neighbors in a disaster. I don’t fear people around me, and will help them out best I can. I’m not on my own, I know my neighbors.

Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

It’s not dismissive. Aren’t you getting frustrated about all the conflicting information over this thing?
Here is what I have surmised as briefly as I can state it:
1. Everyone is gonna get it
2. It’s a coin flip as to whether we live or die when it’s our turn
3. Social distancing is to save the health care system capacity, not people
4. Good luck!

I totally agree with the frustration, it’s just like any other news story, you have to sift through the static to find the signal. It takes time to find out correct answers. And we’re looking for correct answers not just ones that fulfill our personal needs.

#10799 4 years ago

If you get it.

50% you won’t even know you have it. These are the ones spreading it around.
30% you’ll get the flu like symptoms. Some mild, some severe.
20% will need hospitals. These are the ones we’re trying to save.

I’ve read that this kills between 2%-9% of the overall infected population, so if your in the hospital group your outcome doesn’t look good about 50/50. If your placed on a ventilator then your chance of surviving is ~20%. (80% of people placed on ventilators still die) If your on a ventilator for more then 3 weeks then your at high risk of complications from the ventilator it self and your survival rate drops.

#10800 4 years ago

Now for some humor.

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#10874 4 years ago

Today’s chemistry class with dad. Cinnamon rolls 101

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#10885 4 years ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Viscosity discussion?

She’s 9 and thinks I’m ridiculous whenever I talk about science, but she does absorb the concepts and seems to enjoy the experimenting. I always act like I don’t know what going to happen when you mix the baking soda and vinegar. So she feels like she’s leading the show, although I’m the mastermind behind the scenes. It’s fun watching her explain it to my wife what happened, like we were the first to discover yeast or something.

#10901 4 years ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

This will end well.....[quoted image]

This time it's happening globally not just in one country, the hope is that inflation will be minimal.

#10912 4 years ago

They're delicious

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#11022 4 years ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Has there been any intelligent explanations on why testing is such a problem?

Here’s my unintelligent explanation.

It’s almost like this Coronavirus is something new that humans have never had before. That’s why they call it a novel Coronavirus. Just like anything else thats a new experience, it takes time to figure it out. Everyone shouting that they have a miracle cure is just hoping.

We haven’t figured out the virus yet. We know so little about this that we can’t even test for it properly yet.

#11031 4 years ago
Quoted from bob_e:

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I tell people that I don’t fear anything in life, but there are many things I’m very cautious about.

I don’t fear from covid-19
I don’t fear from Public shootings
I don’t fear from my government
I don’t fear from local crime
I don’t fear from terrorists

I am afraid of gun carrying Americans when they suddenly realize that Canada has most of the fresh water in the world, and they decide to take it.

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#11036 4 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

I'll leave you with Alex Jones and the line of trash he tries to peddle.

I like Alex Jones, I think he’s bat shit crazy but he tells a good story. He’s got conviction in his beliefs and doesn’t hold back. I put him in the same category of people as Ben Shapiro. I totally disagree with their ideas, but I’ll let them talk. I know that they won’t indoctrinate me into their cult of belief. But that’s their opinion, and they stand by it.

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#11431 4 years ago

Just heard a great quote

Try hard not to offend, try harder not to be offended

#11484 4 years ago

There’s a time and place for everything. I know A LOT of funny jokes. But most of them are not appropriate for pinside

#11595 4 years ago
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#11596 4 years ago

We finished the 1st layer of the 4d puzzle today too

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#11603 4 years ago
Quoted from toddsolus:

I'm sorry. What is the 4th dimension?
Smell? Taste? Or does it move ?

Time.

You make a map of the city for the base layer. The second layer has cutouts for all of the skyscrapers. Then the time element is a poster timeline you get that shows the order that the buildings get added. So you can see the skyline at various time in the past.

The one for NYC has pre/post 9/11. They include skyscrapers up to ~2025.

#11924 4 years ago

Fun times.

Since we’re all at home on lockdown, we’ve been doing group chats on Friday and Saturday nights with out friends. We drink, hang out, shoot the shit. Well it turns out that one friend has installed a smart home thermostat and colour changing lightbulbs. At random times someone in the chat would loudly say “ok google, turn the lights blue.” And sure enough kris’ house would change colours through the video chat. we kept messing with him all night. “Ok google, set the temperature to 40 degrees”. Ok google...... I wonder if he regrets the purchase.

#12209 3 years ago

I’m really concerned about the long term food supply chain issues over the next couple years. I believe that almost every processed food will have time periods of scarcity. Hopefully it doesn’t all happen at once. I think there will be waves that roll through the industry for a while and hopefully they won’t combine at once.

The first wave I noticed was large items like TP, bags of flour, bags of rice, frozen foods, ect. Most of these are warehoused to a degree and can be replenished fairly quickly. I don’t think products like yeast will restock quickly, it takes time to grow and has a short shelf life.

The next wave will be from manufacturing plants closing down to sanitize after employees inevitably get infected. Regional items like fresh meats that only travel a couple hundred miles will become sporadic to find. Other national items might just disappear for a while. Here in Canada there only 1 plant making Kraft Mac & Cheese. If they stop for a while, it will be noticed coast to coast. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/a-single-factory-is-now-working-24-7-to-keep-kraft-dinner-on-grocery-shelves-1.4862199

Farming will take a massive hit this year. A lot of harvesting requires foreign workers. We’re seeing stories of milk being dumped, pigs being culled, because of lack of processing availability. What happens in the fall when all the crops need to come off and no one is there to pick them? Or no factory is there to process them?

The further out waves will be when frozen vegetable stockpiles run out, and the farm can’t get workers to harvest. Also a lot of produce is transported thousands of miles. Your now not just relying on your own countries ability to keep thing going, you’re also going to have to worry about their ability to produce the products and ship them timely. I think a lot of products will eventually be affected.

#12547 3 years ago

For the poor people in China that rely on the wet markets for daily food, what alternatives could the Chinese Government provide for them? It would be like our farmers market being closed down. They need to change their culture not just close a market.

#12553 3 years ago

Mc Donald’s Canada has always been marketed as 100% Canadian beef. The Cargill beef processing plant in Alberta has been closed due to 700+ cases of covid. Grocery stores are getting low on beef in the West and Mc Donald’s Canada announced they will need to source beef from outside Canada. I doubt that meat will come from the suffering American supplies, is there anywhere in the world right now with surplus beef, at Canadian food grade standards?

If Mc Donald’s closed because they have no supply of meat, people will loose their minds in some areas. I work in some communities where fast food is the only food in walking distance.

#12734 3 years ago

China lied about how bad this was going to be. In January China ordered Chinese nationals all over the world to buy massive amounts of PPE and send them back to the “motherland”. China has been reselling those masks back at an inflated price and is actively preventing other countries from getting supplies.

We all knew it was bad, I didn’t know it was this bad. Some would look at this as acts of war almost.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/united-front-groups-in-canada-helped-beijing-stockpile-coronavirus-safety-supplies/ar-BB13pYoS?ocid=spartandhp

#13043 3 years ago
Quoted from wrb1977:

That will never happen nor should it. There is no one size fits all solution for this.

You’re completely right, and absolutely wrong. Look at 9/11. It changed global air transportation immediately. Now no one can bring a water bottle on a plane. The new safety measures will be more or less a global response.

Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

This is a tale of two societies...
those who are employed and working from home with no worries about losing their jobs and health coverage.
Then there are those who are weeks away from losing the roof over their heads, their entire business, and/or their health care coverage.
Those in the first group need to show a little more empathy for the people in the second group.

That won’t happen in USA too much capitalism. You need to follow a compassionate countries lead. You shouldn’t have second class citizens. Equal opportunity for all (not equal treatment for all). Every person gets the treatment they require.

Quoted from too-many-pins:

Personally I think the "smarter move" is for people who are out of work to take jobs that are opening up as a result of this mess short term until things start returning to normal.

I think that not the “smarter move” I think that will soon be the only move. Meat plant can’t process food because their workers are sick, find new workers to keep the plant running. Can’t find workers, offer them first choice on meat cuts before it goes to stores. People want to eat, they will work. In order to keep essential services open long term (1-2 years) they will need to cycle through employees at a phenomenal rate. Grave diggers, body bag haulers, delivery drivers there will be work for those that want it. Hospitals will need to hire nurses from closed private practices to stay open. PSW and health support workers will be hiring like mad, I bet their hiring requirements will be less strict Just to keep the places functioning.

Either that or military will need to come in to run these facilities. Here in Canada some of the nursing homes hardest hit have asked for military support to Help run the home.

#13049 3 years ago
Quoted from swampfire:

There is a 3rd group: essential workers. People risking their lives to deliver pizza, stock grocery store shelves, staff hospitals.

There was a story I read a week or two ago about this. A mother was talking about her daughter. It want something along the lines of

Don’t call my daughter a hero. A hero is someone that rushes into action, a hero is placed on a pedestal like they are better then the average person. My daughter is no hero, she is a slave to the system, she is terrified ever time she has to go into work. She wasn’t trained for or prepared to deal with what’s happening. But she’s stuck between a rock and a hard place with nowhere to move. She needs help not praise.

#13149 3 years ago

Why is America’s covid death rate twice that of Canada.

“The overwhelming opinion points to three main contributors: longstanding issues related to health care, politics and one particular city.”

https://apple.news/AXCuxteynRuCeJ_0v2Bgb2Q

#13150 3 years ago
Quoted from screaminr:

Funny you mention that .
My father-in-law passed away early March , his car has been sitting at our place since then and the battery is totally dead . How long do you think you have to drive it to charge the battery .

You’ll need a new battery at this point.

#13238 3 years ago

In other news. Some say Fox News Is nothing more then political opinion. Remember how Fox News reacted to the Ebola Outbreak under the previous administration a couple years ago? Remember how bad that was for the world?

#13470 3 years ago
Quoted from gweempose:

There are simply no words ..

Wow that’s wild. I just finished reading a Q-anon book my buddy gave me called the great awakening. Seriously crazy stuff. I enjoy a good conspiracy story as much as the next guy but that was a crazy read, you have to make some mental leaps to believe it all. I don’t recommend it to anyone. I put it on the same level as dianetics by L Ron Hubbard.

I would not take Covid advice from a Q supporter.

#13494 3 years ago

Elon was on joe rogan for another 2 hour podcast just the other day. So X Æ A-12 is pronounced “ex eh eye” the a-12 at the end is dropped. But when your that rich it doesn’t really matter what your name is.

#13513 3 years ago
Quoted from Damen:Deleted post

Ben said it better

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#13536 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

It's not supposed to be a decision. Billie has been openly telling us about his grande virus and vaccine plan for years now.
Luckily all that research hasn't been for nothing, since some highly researched/manipulated virus has just accidentally mysteriously poped up, and it comes at just the right time! ... Phew!

Bill gates’ quote about vaccines and population control are always taken out of context. Bill was talking about 3rd world countries where families have huge lots of children because infant/child mortality is so high. The countries where families have 10 kids because there’s a good chance 1/2 will die from malnutrition or disease. If parents don’t have to worry about multiple child deaths, then they may have less child births. Hopefully only have enough to kids to care for ect. In order to do this you don’t just need vaccinations you also needs education and contraception, and it just so happens that these are the things being improved in 3rd world countries.

Population control through birth rates and education and vaccines.

#13562 3 years ago
Quoted from woody76:

especially over a virus with a .000002 chance of death. Lets be honest, this thing was no where near what old dr evil thought it was going to be

Hahaha. You don’t do math well
80000 dead in USA. USA population 328000000.

.........80 000 ..........X
—————-—...=....——-
328 000 000 .........100

Percentage of population dead currently from covid = ~ 0.024%

If it was truly .000002% that would be 6 people dead in USA

#13564 3 years ago

If we do the math globally. We’re at about 0.00365% of the worlds population has already died from covid and that Number is changing daily.

Again your .000002% number would be 156 deaths worldwide. It’s safe to say wherever you got that number from it was inaccurate

#13584 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

If you ever go to some the old cemeteries in the US, you are walking into history. You will see many many gravestones of a child that has died who was less than 5 years old. And many who were babies less than one year old.

Here’s another opportunity for a lesson. People assume that because in the Bronze Age the life expectancy was 26 years old that nobody lived to be a very old age. This is untrue. People were capable of living a long healthy life unfortunately infant/child mortality rates were so high that the average gets dropped to 26 years old. That’s how averages work one person lives to 80 while 10 more die before they’re 5 years old.

People don’t live longer now-a-days. Medicine has improved enough to keep the weak and young alive until they grow to be strong and old.

#13725 3 years ago

I forgive anyone that follows ken Copeland.

That’s the second best video I saw today. Look for jimmy kimmel’s monologue from last night. The final minute or two is hilarious. Unfortunately it might not pass the political sensor. Even though it’s clearly made in humor.

#13730 3 years ago
Quoted from KerryImming:

I would be interested in hearing opinions on how people think COVID-19 plays out.

What’s really interesting is looking at some of the opinions in this thread from 2 months ago. Oh, how wrong they were.

I think the “re-opening” is happening for 2 reasons. Before that we must realize that “flattening the curve” Was meant to prevent hospitals from becoming overloaded. Also this won’t begin to go away until globally we reach some level of heard immunity. (By that I mean a vaccine/treatment or minimal seasonal death.) there’s a possibility this won’t go away and will become another seasonal flu type virus.

I believe that the lockdown was a good measure, a best case effort to get ahead of the disease and limit initial impact on healthcare systems. Now that the curve is reportedly being flattened we must reopen because.

1. People are getting tired of being cooped up at home. Without significant infection numbers in their area people want to enjoy the nice weather as it approaches. America has a couple hundred years of don’t tread on me attitude and that might be one of the reasons that the lockdown wasn’t as effective in 5e US as it was in other countries.

2. The lockdown has to be lifted to keep infection rolling through the population. In order to reach heard immunity virtually everyone will need to have some level of exposure to the virus. The razors edge will be in controlling the spread at a rate where it won’t overload the hospitals. If people have access to proper healthcare then their ability to survive this is greatly improved.

TLDR: this will be here for a while, eventually everyone will get it. Hopefully there’s a well equipped affordable hospital bed waiting for you if you need it.

#13951 3 years ago
Quoted from chad:

What's next , no cussing .

That shit wont work in canada. Swearing is part of our culture.

Quoted from srmonte:

Let's just juice another 3T!

I really hope that a plus side of this global government spending will be a removal of international corporate tax loop holes, and large businesses like amazon (just a random example because Bezos is rich) pay more of their share.

#14231 3 years ago

Does anyone else get this reference?
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Here’s the video

#14267 3 years ago
Quoted from BobSacamano:

You're going to be seeing a lot of these headlines:
Man who called coronavirus ‘fake crisis’ gets infected, wife in critical condition

Why is it always Florida Man?

#14270 3 years ago

Heres some unsettling stats

USA has less then 5% of the world's population and 30% of the covid cases.

36 million Americans are out of work

Highest unemployment since the great depression

Fed chair said last week. 40% of households making less then $40k a year lost a job in march

#14271 3 years ago

My wife got herself a new hat. I call it her "social distancing hat" because no one would want to get close to someone with it on.

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#14278 3 years ago
Quoted from RTR:

I probably shouldn't say this, but your wife could use a shave.

Hahahaha. I had to be the model today

#14552 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Cait why do you think people are dumb for wanting their state opened back up so they can go back to work and not be homeless? Let me guess, you do not work and you have a husband that supports you right? People have to work, I dont care if theres a virus going around or not. You cannot shut down the whole damn world like this!

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Anyone holding a sign with the “WWG1WGA” tag on it, needs people to help protect their mental heath, not physical health.

I’ve read their book. It’s full of conspiracy and leaps of logic that don’t make sense. These are the people that believe the world is ran by a secret cabal of the 13 richest families on the planet. Who are all child molesters that use human trafficking to remain in power. They believe one government leader is talking to them directly by sending secret coded messages through the 8chan Website. That leader is the only person in 2000 years of history with enough power to take down the global elite, and these people holding signs are the frontline warriors. It’s so crazy their book has a chapter on how to make effective memes, that sign maker followed the rules well.

These are the people that think that Alex Jones is calm by comparison.

#14580 3 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

My biggest fear during all this is that the world ends and all that's left is me and a bunch of people who repeatedly use the phrase "it is what it is."

I think it’s funny/ironic/sad that whenever anyone talks about after the end of the world it will include them. Me too. I always think I’m the guy that going to win the lottery and get to play mad max in the end times. Reality is I’ll probably be in the first 90% to die, and not be the 10% left.

#14604 3 years ago
Quoted from BillySastard:

Easy. People that usually go to the ER for headaches, tummy aches, hangovers and other bullshit are staying home rather than risking being exposed. Hospitals are spending HUGE amounts of money on PPE that they need, as do other hospitals, so they're getting charged alot more from the PPE providers. Also, hospitals are delaying procedures for some patients, so they're not making money there. Lastly, Covid patients cost more to treat then regular patients, so they're losing money there too.
So less ER patients, less procedures, means some hospitals need less nurses to cover. Furloughs.
My wife is an ER nurse and thankfully hasn't been furloughed, but there are nurses at her hospital who have been.

Reading this makes me sad, and glad for our healthcare system. The feasibility of saving lives shouldn’t even be a question. I’m not sure Of the intricacies of Canadian hospital billing, but profit is never brought up and I think the only Temporary layoffs were in research labs.

#14615 3 years ago
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#14660 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I'm not going to argue for hours on end and keep getting downvoted by all of these babies on here

Can you put a line In the sand for us, so that we’ll know when you’ll be on the team “Give a fuck”? You don’t want to argue for hours on end at 100000 dead, this is still a nothing burger for you, but when will it be enough dead for you to care? Cane we count on your support at 500000? How about a million if the total ever gets there?

I guess I’m asking where the goalpost Is for you, so that if we cross it, you’ll finally have to admit this is a problem. Is that 2 million dead? Dose it have to kill one of your parents to be real? How much death is enough for you to pull your head out of the sand?

I don’t care what your number is, but I’d like you to make a statement about when (if we get there) that this becomes real for you

Don’t take this as a personal attack, it’s an honest question, I’m curious. Personally I don’t think 6500 deaths in Canada is a lot yet that’s 0.02% of our population. USA is at 0.03% of your population. If Canada reaches 100000 that will be devastating to us. I feel I’m more concerned they you are even though my country is surviving this better for the time being.

#14695 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

One person dead is too many

Great agreement totally and I like to dream to, but try to be realistic, globally were close to 350k. USA is 100k of that.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

I care about people dying but we cant drive ourselves into a economic collapse over this

100% with ya here. But I dont think the main focus should be on the bottom line.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

because then you will have anarchy in the streets and many more people dying from starvation, diseases and murder than what this virus is causing

currently.

"Many more" ok, covid is at 100k in 3 months. How bad are the starvation, disease and murder in your area? Maybe we should revitalize this point in another 3 months.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

You cant just shut the economy down because if there is no money people cant buy food and other basic needs. We have to work folks, what don’t you understand about that?

I agree you just cant shut down the economy, but only essential services should be running now. You have to do your best to help the weak and vulnerable in you society. Maybe a more socialist view is a solution you could use to look after peoples basic needs like food and shelter and health. The usa is trying to balance a balloon on a pin head and any wrong slip and it could pop.

Comple shutdown isn't an option. But open beaches shouldn't be either. When we get to the next round of lockdowns hopefully things will be done better.

Liquor stores are open but AA is closed. Crazy

#14697 3 years ago
Quoted from swampfire:

We’re approaching half a million “recovered

The more I see the recovered number go up the more I feel that we will be less reliant on a vaccine.

If one is developed, I wont be first in line. And if the recovered rate is high enough I probably wont get it. I also dont get the seasonal flu shot. So dont listen to me.

#14728 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

I do sympathize with those who are out of work

Quoted from o-din:

Don't feel any sympathy for me, buddy.

I’m with you o-din. 2019 I took a financial hit, in Jan I sold my only pin GoT pre. To cover my personal debt before this crisis started. I was laid off mid March. So, even though I don’t have a pin at home right now. Don’t cry for me. My only debt is a very manageable mortgage. We have more then 3 months expenses in savings. My employment insurance will last until February and I virtually make the same on it as when I was working. I’m content sheltering I place for the foreseeable future.

#14739 3 years ago

Here’s a story from my local news. This lady is Is a nurse that started feeling sick in March. She can’t go back to work until she receives 2 negative tests in a row. 10 tests later and she’s still positive

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/cambridge-ont-woman-gets-10th-positive-covid-19-test-result-as-others-deal-with-long-bouts-1.4954072

Cambridge, Ont. woman gets 10th positive COVID-19 test result as others deal with long bouts
Tracy Schofield has tested positive for COVID-19 10 times since the end of March, but she’s not the only one who has been dealing with a long bout of the virus.

#14754 3 years ago

I never trust anyone that says “trust me”. Trust is something that you have to earn through time.

#14818 3 years ago

Some good/bad news just came out from all this.

A couple weeks ago I posted on here that the military was called in To help nursing homes with covid outbreaks. Well the military just delivered a report to the provincial government that these homes have horrific living conditions. Just about every negative thing you could imagine is happening from neglect to bugs. People will probably go to jail for the terrible conditions of these homes. It took a military report to open the eyes of the government to these atrocities. Poor living conditions in retirement homes have long been considered the norm. Hopefully thing will improve moving forward.

#14861 3 years ago
Quoted from Gott1978:

I see that pinsiders down vote the American Medical Association. I'm done with this forum -- all the best to those of you who stay.

I hope you read a couple more posts down in the thread, the one that says this was from march and presented as the most current information at the end of may. That's why the down votes were there, its outdated material.

#14895 3 years ago
Quoted from srmonte:

hurray for freedom!

Hurray for freedom

#14941 3 years ago
Quoted from hAbO:

Now I understand where all these posts stem from. Not wanting to wear a mask or a helmet...
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i-had-a-bad-accident-and-need-a-little-help-i-hate-to-ask/page/7#post-5506168

I wonder if he wears a helmet now after being "almost dead" from an accident and that he's learned a lesson.
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Two people are standing at the pearly gates looking back at their lives. The first, looks to the second and says "why do you always take the difficult path?" The second guy replies "Why do you assume a see another way"

#14944 3 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

go through 10 pairs of blue gloves a day.

A year from now people will look at these blue gloves like plastic straws. They're tossed in parking lots and littered all over the place.

Tim Hortons would run a Roll up the Rim contest in march, and sure enough every year you'd see the cups littered throughout the city more often. It's almost like people are so disappointed by a loosing cup they just toss it on the ground instead of putting it into recycling. This year they did it online and I didnt notice the increase in trash. Hopefully people will become more aware of their waste through this.

#14990 3 years ago

I somehow think we’re missing a comedic moment here....

Who’s on first?
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No. The Who’s on first.
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No,no,no. The W.H.O. Is on first
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#15002 3 years ago

I'm not a doctor. I dont know if this is disinformation or a useful piece of the puzzle

https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

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#15270 3 years ago

For anyone rushing to get back to work quickly I just suggest you look at the largest corporations and how they treat their most valuable employees.

Don’t watch the minimum wage factories, watch the employers that care about their workers.

#15377 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

You're crazy. The Spanish Flu killed 50 million people.

You can’t compare one thing that’s over, and another Thing that’s still active and have any level of confidence with your statement. Talk to me when this is over, then we’ll know how many people it killed.

That’s like comparing Studebaker and tesla. Who’s built more cars?

Quoted from o-din:

But we apparently want to be number one this time.

“You’re going to win so much that you’ll be tired of winning“ that’s the quote right? Are you tired of winning yet?

#15470 3 years ago

Just thought this should be read again

Quoted from RTR:

“Truth is rarely in the middle with any subject of an observable nature.
Just because an opposite statement of something exists, does not mean that one should average the two statements and that neither are wrong and neither are right.
It is the continual attack and dilution of truth that fuels ignorance, conspiracies, and division”
- RTR

#15630 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

In this day and age it is neither real, nor not real...
Like Schrödinger's Cat being dead, or not.
ie. it could be both/either, up until the point where it is definitely not. Depends what dimension/reality ....
Lol
Does look a little like there is a cord tied to the box, the way it snaps back so suddenly... and both times it snaps back it appears to change its rotational axis.... at exactly the same time as it changes direction .... in mid air
Not CGI. Not real either, not in the way maybe suggested anyway.
I suppose the main guesses may be CGI vs Real. Sometimes there Are more than just two seemingly feasible answers, though. Grey, not bla.... errrr, the two main colours of a traditional newspaper.

It’s real, it’s simple physics.

Jump to 3:30 to get an explanation

#15649 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

I really do hope you are joking there man! Lol ... Havin' a lend eh
You are aren't you?
Okay, play it nice and slow... if there is not a cord or wire on that box then it breaks too many laws of physics, alot, in the way it Instantly and Dramatically changes its Axis of Rotation and Direction of Rotation. It spontaneously for no obvious reason spins in the opposite direction, when it's a metre off the ground. Watch Very closely, quarter speed is slow enough
The guys theory is there in part, and does appear to help with the box entering all the way back into the truck, but in reality the forces he speaks of are not strong enough alone to do this in this way. The box behavior is unnatural for a loose box. The behaviour Is natural considering a Tethered box.
Or there's this for fun Ha ha

Kyle hill - His work has been published in WIRED, Popular Science, Slate and The Boston Globe, he has appeared as an expert on Fox News, Al Jazeera America, BBC World Service, and Huffington Post Live, held writing positions at Scientific American and Discover Magazine, and has worked as a TV host/expert for Science Channel (MythBusters: The Search, How to Build Everything), Netflix (Bill Nye Saves the World), and Al Jazeera America (TechKnow). Kyle was the Science Editor of Nerdist.com and host of the popular YouTube science show Because Science from 2014 to 2020.

Razorsedge - quoted on pinside.

Let me do some critical thinking and decide who’s opinion I’ll listen to about science.

#15656 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

Lol ... you think the earth's flat?

I have no idea where you got that assumption from anything I’ve said. I’ve never once mentioned the earth was flat. I don’t know what your trying to prove, we both agree it’s not cgi. Just leave it at that and feel proud that you’ve won the Internet today. Whatever you need to feel big.

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#15850 3 years ago
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#15921 3 years ago
Quoted from Oaken:

If this is truly a problem then ask yourself:
How have medical professionals (surgeons, nurses, infectious disease researchers, etc...) been able to survive all these years with no deleterious effects?

I like my science to be better then that guy, he could have just put it in his mouth and held his breath under the mask. I just don’t think that’s a very reputable source either.

Ive worn N95 masks while woodworking, doing hard physical labour in very dusty environments and never have had a headache wearing one.

#16032 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Cheers for those of us who have employer sponsored healthcare insurance, Medicare, or VA care. If you have been laid off and cannot afford insurance and you find you need this drug, you just might be SOL

Cheers for those of us who have government sponsored healthcare. I was laid off for 13 weeks before I was told there’s no job to go back to, companies shutting down, contract was pulled. I have employment insurance for months, and no healthcare worries at all.

My heart goes out to the billions of people that have to think about healthcare, here in Canada it’s just always been there for us. Everyone is covered, even if you’re homeless the hospital will try to heal you.

#16099 3 years ago

A tornado touches down unexpectedly, there’s little time to prepare. This is not a tornado, This is a hurricane, you can see it coming and have time to get ready. In a hurricane you board up your windows to prepare. Well, wearing a mask is just like boarding up your windows, but when you wear a mask, you also take some strength away from the hurricane. If everyone wears a mask, by the time the hurricane comes it will be so weak that it won’t destroy as much as it could have at full force.

Wear a mask.

#16100 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

The truth is they just dont know Daditude. One thing we do know though is infection rates are climbing and Covidndeaths are declining so thats a positive thing and not gloom and doom like some people are acting like.

I honestly think this is 100% attributed summertime. People are outdoors more. Vitamin D is free from the sun and supports your immune system.

Once it gets cold, days get shorter and people migrate back inside we will see the death rate increase.

#16103 3 years ago

It seems to me that the same group of people who 3 months ago argued the validity of a lockdown are now arguing the validity of wearing a mask. It’s like they can’t understand that if everyone followed the lockdown in March, we wouldn’t be worried about wearing masks in July. Look to New Zealand for proof. Now, because you won’t wear a mask in July there will be a resurgence in September. When will people learn the simple lesson that one bad apple will spoil the whole damn bunch. It’s almost always better to be proactive than retroactive. How many more have to die before people take this seriously?

#16156 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

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Soon only 99.98% of us will remain? Good one. Hopefully they will all return to full health without any lasting effects.

What if the world has a large population of permanently disabled people in that 99.98% that could have been otherwise prevented. Is that still a win?

0.02% needlessly dead around the world. That’s 1.6 million. Why worry

#16198 3 years ago

The Canada-USA border will remain closed for a while longer, some people are wanting it to remained closed for the rest of the year. One problem we’re facing with entitled Americans is that they’re allowed to travel to Alaska, problem is they’re staying and being found camping in banff. Because of this people don’t even want Americans to pass through Canada.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-issued-7-tickets-to-americans-found-in-banff-alta-over-the-past-week-1.4993704

#16256 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

I'm kinda surprised to learn now some seem to still have the Schools closed?? Wtf

Our schools closed for March break (2nd week of March) and have been shut down ever since. We’ve also had to deal with 6 weeks of child care for the summer being cancelled. Back in December we arranged our vacations with family friends to watch each other’s kids for a couple weeks, and we used camps for a couple weeks. By May all of the camps were cancelled, one week of my wife’s vacation was cancelled, and our friends both had a week cancelled. Some of these weeks were forced vacation when the lockdown started in March and April, then made up by forcing you to work when you planned to be off in the summer. We have no family around and there’s very little child care in the city, and with new restrictions it’s costly and impractical. I was scheduled to back to work in July. It was a real panic for us, we literally had no one to watch our child for the summer. “Luckily” I found out in June our company is closing down, so now I’ll be home watching kids this summer, both mine and our friends.

Schools might reopen in September currently there’s 3 options it think. 1) back to school as normal. 2)30 kids in class, class is divided into two groups Of 15, half work from home one day then from school the next, alternating back and forth. 3) same as #2 but the kids alternate every week instead of every day.

So now I don’t even know if I will be able to look for full time work in the fall or If I’ll have to work some part time gig, to work around the school schedule.

#16346 3 years ago
Quoted from RTR:

Seriously, what has 'medical science' ever done for us?!

If my wife was pregnant 100 years ago both her and my daughter would have died during labour. (So I say fuck off to anyone that denies science.)

Richard Dawkins said it best.
On the question “how do we justify, as it were, faith that science will give us the truth.”

“If you Base medicine on science, you cure people.
If you base the design of planes on science, they fly.
If you design rockets on science, you reach the moon.“
It works............bitches.

#16442 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

The last time I checked school was not for babysitting kids. People were bitching at our governor and saying "he needs to figure out something so we can go back to work". I'm like are you F'ing kidding me dipshit? Your kids are YOUR problem, not the governments! So many entitled people in this world that its disgusting.

I think I figured it out. Maybe you just don’t have compassion for other people. Do you believe in a social contract, or is it all about you?

Use some common sense. Who watches kids when the parents are at work, schools are closed, camps are closed, daycare is closed. That’s right, no one. So the parents miss work to look after their kids. Sending your child to get an education is not entitlement, it’s preparation for the next generation

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#16458 3 years ago
Quoted from phil-lee:

I will make a bold prediction. All of this will end in December.

Bold prediction, sounds like more political stories. Originally someone predicted that it would disappear in April. There’s been 19 times we’ve been told this will go away. Forgive me if don’t believe your prediction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/19-times-trump-said-the-coronavirus-would-go-away/2020/04/30/d2593312-9593-4ec2-aff7-72c1438fca0e_video.html

#16474 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I guess you are missing my point.

I don’t think you get it.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

people are going to have to adjust, make sacrifices, and just maybe come up with a game plan on their own because it is THEIR KIDS.

You’re 100% correct here. Again, a little compassion could help the situation. But I get it not your problem, it’s all about you.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

Why the fuck does he need to figure out what parents can do with their kids while they go to work??

Parents got jobs assuming the school would be there to watch their kids. If he has power over schools, then he should figure it out. It’s part of his job.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

They are YOUR kids and YOU need to make arrangements so you can go to work. There are daycares, relatives, babysitters and all kinds of things that people can do.

Again your right, my problem. BUT daycares; full or closed. Relatives; Thousand miles away. legally can’t even travel here let Alone babysit daily. And babysitters are ok if it’s a family friend, but there’s not much of that going on for a bunch of different reasons.

So, what arrangements can I make? “Luckily” I’ve been unemployed through this mess, but I can’t even begin to look for a job until I know school schedules. Part time, full time, weekends? It’s all up in that air right now. How can you get the economy rolling if millions of families are now forced to be a single income homes. My wife already made more then I did and she’s essential, so we’ll pull through. But this is no path to a healthy economy or normalcy.

#16510 3 years ago
Quoted from Oaken:

Good article on the likely reasons death curve has been falling while cases rise. Pretty much summarizes the points we have been debating in this forum. Helpful for those not constantly keeping up with the every post.
Something there for pretty much everyone.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/why-covid-death-rate-down/613945/

Yup, that a good read. Could be made a key post.

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#16675 3 years ago
Quoted from JohnnyPinball007:

They say it is proven that the virus can live for 30 days in fecal matter.

I just watched a Sci Show Episode on YouTube that was pretty fascinating. Municipalities are able to test sewage on mass at treatment plants to find out how much of the population has covid. Even if the people don’t take Personal tests the city can monitor disease levels and send supplies where needed.

They’re monitoring your poo

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#16750 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I dont depend on them for anything and I never will

How’s that coast to coast off road driving going?

Quoted from Who-Dey:

I think for myself and I don't need my government to do that for me and if I need something done in life I just do it myself unless I dont have the skills to do it.

Some projects are so massive you need government to organize them. Covid is so massive you will not be able to stop it by yourself when it come knocking. You need the skills of a national coast to coast plan implemented by something powerful enough to see it through. (I dunno. We could ask Apple and amazon, they have the influence of governments.)

Quoted from Who-Dey:

Alot of people look to the government for help and protection

What else is their job? That why taxes are a thing.

Quoted from dirkdiggler:

And they're supposed to open the border tomorrow? I sure hope not.
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Here’s a great example of how the Canadian government is keeping its people safe, the border is closed for another month. Every Canadian I’ve spoke to would be happy if it stayed closed for the rest of the year. We are more then happy keeping Americans out for now.

#16898 3 years ago
Quoted from vex:

Can you guys build a wall along the entire Canadian border as well please?

I think it’s ironic that last year America was worried about people crossing into the USA, so much so, that they want to build a wall. Now under the current climate most of the world doesn’t want Americans into their countries. Americans are being stopped and turned around at the Canadian and Mexican border and air travel to Europe is non existent.

I don’t care if you want to be the home of the free, but keep your freedom away from us, we’re quite happy with sheltering in place, masks are our new requirement and we’re ok with that.

America wants to change and lead the world with their manifest destiny, but this is a time to sit down and put on a mask And follow everyone else’s lead. A cavalier attitude Won’t win you anything but 1st place, and this is one fight you don’t want to be first place in.

#16943 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

"[We] found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us." ... “The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said.
This was the way things were recorded here as well, at least at the start. I do not know if this is still the way it is going.

Holy shit people. We’ve been over this multiple times in this thread. I’m beginning to think some of you don’t read everything. I feel like in beating a dead horse.

On a death certificate there are multiple causes of death. If to have brain cancer and get hit by a bus, the bus killed you, but the cancer is also on the certificate. Buy your logic, someone could have a heart attack behind the wheel, die in a car crash, and the death would be Exclusively caused from the crash; with no mention of the heart attack.

This is literally the next paragraph from the bit you quoted
“ but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”

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#16966 3 years ago
Quoted from phil-lee:

We are not stopping this, we cannot stop this. This thing is ripping through the Nation, the World, right now, as was predicted late January.
Prophylactic measures like gloves and masks slow it down. It doesn't go away.
Masks and gloves, social distancing, negative- pressure air systems, these give us a sense of control. They only work if you live in a near social bubble.
The lid is off covid, it must run its course, with all of the implications. Mask-shaming is ridiculous in the larger picture.

It’s never to late to stop what you are doing, turn around, and go down the right path. It’s hard for some, but it’s never to late to try. Masks work, give it a try. It can’t be any worse then your country’s current course of action.

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#16972 3 years ago
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#16974 3 years ago

Here’s a humorous 1970’s Public Service Announcement About covid. Be careful what information you follow

#17003 3 years ago
Quoted from phil-lee:

My issue is with current mask-shaming, a group / gang mentality that uses excessive peer pressure to enforce a creed among strangers, giving the one shaming a sense of power and superiority

Damn right. If your actions are putting the lives of multiple other people at risk, then you should be told about it. I haven’t called out anyone but friends and family, and since a mask is mandatory here I haven’t seen anyone without a mask on. If I’m in a store it’s the job of employees to inform customers that don’t wear a mask, so I don’t Feel the need to confront people.

I look at it like this. You’d never let someone that is impaired behind the wheel, right? Well it’s the same here. Should an infected person go out without a mask? How do you know if you’re infected when most show no signs of symptoms? Why not err of the side of caution for now?

Quoted from phil-lee:

Please describe a "Case".

There’s no way to sugar coat this information. Canada has 1/10th the population of the states, so if our numbers were close to the USA we’d be at 6500 new “cases” But we’re not. Because were wearing masks. The numbers don’t lie. It works and saves lives.

Now go tell all your friends to not forget their mask. You might just save a life

#17054 3 years ago
Quoted from Russell:

Covid19 is called that because it started on 2019, not because there were 18 previous coronaviruses. There has never been a successful (human) coronavirus vaccine.

Covid-19 is an acronym for

COrona VIrus Disease 2019

And you’re correct, we’ve never found a successful coronavirus vaccine.

#17061 3 years ago

This might help explain why covid attacks people differently.

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#17073 3 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

The shaming is going to get worse if you don't become good neighbors and citizens. You don't get to smoke in the car with the windows up and your kids in the backseat anymore. You don't get to lock your dog in a hot car anymore. And you don't get to walk into stores and busy public indoor places without masks anymore. Get used to it. We don't give a shit about your objections.

We’re all cool with, No shoes, No shirt No service. You can’t walk around drunk. Since the 90’s you can’t smoke everywhere you want. Suddenly your freedom is being taken away because you have to wear a mask inside public locations. Wtf.

#17215 3 years ago

Wow. Now we’re into conspiracy theory posting, but advice from the cdc is passed by.

#17251 3 years ago
Quoted from toddsolus:

I am in the live music production industry. I have been in this business for over 20 years
We have been at a dead stop since March and I can tell you, with authority, all tours that haven't cancelled or postponed til 2021 yet are just riding out the advance and don't want to refund tickets until they have to.

Are you trying to make me cry?

Within the last two weeks I had tickets to see Rage Against The Machine and Guns n Roses. Both are bucket list concerts, I was very excited for both of them. Both Bands don’t have the best track record with touring regularly. Both shows delayed for a year with the option for a refund or wait. We decided to wait, they were tough tickets to get in the first place. I really hope axel and slash can keep it together until after the tour.

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#17280 3 years ago
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#17362 3 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

This whole thing is political propaganda... and yet even when the information is under your nose people refuse to look at it.

This whole threat has turned into everyone debating the 3 people that deny science who dont want to protect as many as possible.

The same 3 people are posting broken record "facts" that could actually be harmful to everyone else, yet they haven't been removed from this thread.

3 bad apples that are causing all the conflict on this subject show no signs of compassion. But everyone else is wrong.

#17391 3 years ago
Quoted from RonSS:

but seriously, why hasn't our US government at least hyped up wearing masks during flu season? Plenty of elderly die from it, no?

This ain't no regular flu and the government is starting to realize that.

#17444 3 years ago

My wife has to go for a covid test today.

Shes a social worker and has to work in the community for parts of her job. She is very cautious, wears a mask and uses hand sanitizer.

This morning she had a headache and then out of the blue she feels queasy and vomits for no aparent reason. Normally nothing to worry about, but those are 2 of the warning signs, so before she can go back to work she needs to get tested. Her appointment is in about an hour.

Probably nothing, but this isn't the time to guess and gamble with everyone's health.

#17449 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

My wife has to go for a covid test today.
Shes a social worker and has to work in the community for parts of her job. She is very cautious, wears a mask and uses hand sanitizer.
This morning she had a headache and then out of the blue she feels queasy and vomits for no aparent reason. Normally nothing to worry about, but those are 2 of the warning signs, so before she can go back to work she needs to get tested. Her appointment is in about an hour.
Probably nothing, but this isn't the time to guess and gamble with everyone's health.

Not more then a hour later a get a text message from one of my best friends. Hes also going for a test. He and his wife were af a function on sunday, it was outdoors and both wore masks, but someone there just tested positive, so there going for tests and quarantining for 2 weeks to be safe.

#17454 3 years ago
Quoted from BadBrad97:

I hate to contradict you but wearing a mask all the time will not prevent the flu or Covid. Have you seen China in the last 10 years? Everyone wears a mask all the time. You are more likely to get any disease from touching a railing or handle than from someone coughing on you.

Welcome to the debate BadBrad97 please re-read The last 350 pages and get up to speed with the information. I really don’t want to have to go through all this again to try and explain it to someone else.

Yes a mask will not 100% prevent flu or Covid, But it’s better then nothing. No your wrong about China. One of my best friends Has lived there for 10 years and many don’t wear a mask. You should let people cough in your face to test your theory. I wonder how that will go for you.

#17478 3 years ago
Quoted from Irishbastard:

My "location" is off and my VPN is running on my phone, but somehow they still know what I'm doing and where I've been.

Every cell phone has a unique serial number, every cell tower has a unique serial number. That’s how a call can be routed to you anywhere in the world. Your phone is always tracked by towers a VPN will mask your internet searches, but “they” will always know where you are.

This contract tracing all workers through Bluetooth. It doesn’t track where you’ve been. It tracks if your phone has come within bluetooth range of someone with Covid. The problem with this system is that your phone doesn’t know if that person is in the next apartment up a floor, or if they’re right next to you.

If you’re worried about “them” tracking you, then you’re too late. It’s already happening. This new contact tracing app shouldn’t be your point contention.

With that said, I don’t plan to use the app.

#17657 3 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Considering front porch only deliveries this year, gifts wrapped in amazon boxes.

Amazon will gift wrap it for you for a couple bucks. I sent a grad gift for my nephew and my sister said it was nicely done.

#17806 3 years ago
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#17838 3 years ago

New Zealand isn’t out of the water yet. 4 new cases that are not linked to international travel.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/new-zealand-records-first-new-covid-19-cases-in-102-days

#17859 3 years ago
Quoted from peely:

They have a leader that the rest of the world is (or should be) envious of.
I don't doubt she'll control this outbreak with necessary measures.

Ya, Jacinda is a rock star, I wish our Prime Minister was as competent.

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#17972 3 years ago

When will covid be over?

To Long Didn’t Watch? The short answer, it’s never going to be over. Don’t agree watch the video and make your own decision

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#18030 3 years ago

To be fair America is a cluster fuck that is apparent to the rest of the world. No amount of denying the truth will make covid go away. It takes serious action from the entire population to avoid the virus, you can’t blame the federal government for ever.

#18054 3 years ago

Who had asteroid for November on their 2020 bingo card?

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#18106 3 years ago

Here’s a story from The Globe And Mail, apparently the Province of Quebec has one of the highest “death per 100000” rates in the world. Over all, Canada has been doing quite well, but our French speaking population is not. Personally I’ve always thought of the québécois as our Americans. In the sense that they have a “don’t tread on me attitude” and an arrogance that I haven’t seen elsewhere in the country, even Alberta has a more reasonable population. IMHO

Another example of how a cavalier attitude won’t work in this situation.

https://apple.news/Ar8H4ztQvT-Ob78ipZvYe2Q

#18123 3 years ago

Hey Americans, don’t fuck with Canada.

This guy was supposed to travel from continental USA, STRAIGHT to Alaska. He decided to make some stops along the way.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/905847150/american-man-accused-of-breaking-canadas-covid-19-rules-faces-560-000-fine

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#18129 3 years ago

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#18145 3 years ago
Quoted from noob-a-tron:

Do your research on him but do not use facebook or google. He is not a billionaire because he is a nice guy.

I’m sceptical about of off brand news sites. There’s a lot of misinformation going around. Could you link some credible sources, or are you just talking about random website that looks convincing?

I’ve read a lot of alternative news from vaccines deniers, all the way to Qannon supporters. After coming up with my own opinions; I believe a lot of them to be useless shit. I have issues with speculation and leaps on logic, but you have a convincing argument, I will listen to the facts and try to understand your perspective. If your sources are true and accurate then hopefully you will be able to convince me to see the light.

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#18185 3 years ago

Some people are just to stupid to argue with. There’s no need to quote, use logic or facts, some people just don’t want to see the forest they’re too busy looking at trees.

#18194 3 years ago
Quoted from paul_8788:

The takeaway is he is spending large amounts of that money trying to help resolve worldwide health and poverty issues

Theres an old quote from Bill thats been taken out of context, that says something along the line of The world is over populated and were going to try and fix that.

The anti Gates crowd thinks that means he's going to kill us all.

The reality is that birth rates go down when women get rights and become educated. Then with health care, child mortality rates drop and less people are having large families.

#18267 3 years ago

Canada’s top DR. says if your dating during the pandemic maybe wear a mask during sex. You can never be to safe.

https://apple.news/AY5sRW4RcR0SgP8Mv8VSg

#18280 3 years ago

Ugly people are having a great 2020.

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#18288 3 years ago

Here’s a fresh supply of covid memes, to lighten your day

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#18379 3 years ago
Quoted from Trogdor:

How could we have even $46k in loss if 80% of cases are asymptomatic and maybe 95% return to work after 11 days?

I don’t know medical prices in America but I’d be willing to bet the avg hospital stay for one of the severe cases is 10 times the $46k number. If 10% of cases cost $500k then it skews the average for all. I’d be willing to bet some people have experienced hospital bills well over $500k. Some people have been hospital for weeks, I bet that’s not cheap in the USA.

That’s how averages work. One outlier skews the entire data.

Here’s another true fact. I know nothing about your finances but I can say without a doubt that you are closer to being a millionaire then Jeff bezos is. You might be poor without a cent to your name, and you’re still closer to a million then Jeff is. How does that work?

#18410 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinballs:

Anyone noticed how China is the winner in all this...? Fancy that. It has literally done better in terms of economic growth and lowest number of deaths than anywhere else in the world. And the Western powers are the worst affected. Again, fancy that.

That’s assuming that China is accurately reporting their case numbers.

#18411 3 years ago
Quoted from oldskool1969:

Is this China virus really that bad as the percentage of infected that die as a DIRECT result of it seems very very low

I don’t think we will ever see a vaccine, it’s virtually impossible to reach heard immunity because antibodies don’t last long enough after infection. I believe that covid will become endemic and mutate into a flu like virus that kills Thousands every year. I believe we’re are on track to end this by thinning the heard. I mean that in the next couple years, everyone that is severely affected by this will die.

How fast do you want them to die? If we are on top of this then maybe out medics system will be able to save some of them along the way

#18412 3 years ago

How have previous pandemics ended? How will this end? It will end in 1 of 2 ways, either socially or medically.

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#18443 3 years ago

I wonder if some of the anti mask people will begin to wear one now that it has been proven that World leaders lied to the public to down play the severity of the virus. It’s pretty hard to deny the facts now.

The audio tapes tell us the truth

#18454 3 years ago
Quoted from BobSacamano:

I see "masks required" signs on restaurants, but then as soon as you're seated, the mask comes off to eat your food. Good thing virus particles respect table/booth boundaries?

It will be a long time before I eat indoors at a restaurant, I’m quite fine with the patio in the summer.

#18478 3 years ago
Quoted from Gunnut40:

. My mind goes a million miles per second. My typing is about five light years behind

I find cannabis has helped me with this exact problem. I’ve been a daily user for over 20 years and find it helps me function. I find it slows my mind so that I can focus on the task at hand and not skip steps or make mistakes.

#18495 3 years ago

So we’re about 6 months into covid and globally we’ve reached 30 million infected and 1 million dead. That’s one in 30. 3.3% mortality rate. If 30 million people is an accurate representation of the global population then with a total population global of 7 billion people, we should expect to see 230 million people dead from this if the current projection continue.

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#18526 3 years ago
Quoted from RTR:

Earlier this year there were rumors that some people at the very highest level of our government KNEW all about the Coronavirus as early as January and February. Knew that it was airborne, much deadlier than flu, and had no known treatments. These high level government officials are said to have downplayed the severity of the virus and kept much of this SECRET from the public! Told the public it was NO PROBLEM and UNDER CONTROL!! Nothing to see here!

I have a feeling that even with the tapes, some supporters of the “this isn’t that bad” belief won’t change their mind and listen to the facts.

That’s the problem, you spend 6 months telling people they have nothing to worry about, Then they want to believe they have nothing to worry about. If you change your tune and begin to tell them it’s time to worry, they won’t believe you, after all they’ve been brainwashed for 6 months and prefer the “this isn’t that bad” story. That’s the one they want to be true. Everything else is lies because it doesn’t FEEL right.

I understand it’s 2020 and facts don’t matter anymore. It’s all about how it makes you feel.

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#18554 3 years ago
Quoted from Gunnut40:

Hmmm. Looks like we are doing the same as last year. In fact we might be doing a little bit better.
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Quoted from pinmeds:

It is important to note the oversized text disclaimer inside the red box on the Macrotrends site related to the 2020 figures cited above;
"NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus."[quoted image]

Quoted from Gunnut40:

Awwww that’s the best y’all can do? Bring on the heat. I’ll make some s’mores with it.

Gunnut40 Your American is showing. Let me teach you how to handle this situation properly.

You try to find a fact to support your case by posting a cropped picture from a web site. It turns out the page has a disclaimer refuting the information that you hoped would prove your case. You were wrong and you were called out with facts.

Your response was. “That’s the best you can do? Bring the heat.” (Wtf does this mean? Are you trying to start a fight?)

The correct response should have been. “You guys got me, I’m wrong with this one, I’ll try to find accurate facts next time.”

This is what is called being the bigger person, it can be tough, but if You admit your faults then you can begin to fix them.

#18593 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballNewb:

And where does The Onion fall on this spectrum,

The onion is Humor not news. 0% of its reporting can be considered accurate

Quoted from Gunnut40:

I have said many times that data can be manipulated. Which I did to prove a point.

Except you didn’t manipulate anything beyond ignoring the disclaimer, and you didn’t prove anything except that you don’t pay attention to where you get your information.

Quoted from Gunnut40:

I was asked to post data and I did.

If you post inaccurate data, then you’re contributing to the problem, not helping.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

.I dont think anyone here thinks the virus is a hoax, just the numbers and the data that is being collected and misrepresented by some very evil people.

I don’t think homelessness or hunger is hoax. After all I don’t know anyone that is homeless or hungry so the numbers and data must be misrepresented by some evil people

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#18645 3 years ago
Quoted from nwpinball:

That's some good weed you are smokin' dude.

Oh no you don’t. Don’t blame weed for gunnut’s views. I’ve been smoking weed daily for over 20 years, and I’ve never found anything that potent.

I don’t know what makes you think that way, but it’s not weed. Potheads are way more laid back and easy going.

#18663 3 years ago
Quoted from Trogdor:

How would you prove this is man-made

Here’s someone much smarter then I am explaining why it might have been made in a lab.

#18711 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

It was a pretty big issue. I had 4 seat belt violations. They said that I set a record when I went into pay my 4th one.

Some people learn the hard way

#18780 3 years ago

Woodworking is one of my hobbies so I’m used to wearing a dust clogged N95 mask for hours on end. Breathing through one of them is much more difficult then a flimsy piece of cloth. If I don’t wear a mask while I woodwork, then I don’t sleep well that night and snore like a freight train. 20 years ago I would act tough and pretend a little dust won’t hurt me, but here I am, wiser then I was back then knowing their benefit.

#18849 3 years ago
Quoted from Swainer80:

I would argue that the US is doing the worst,

If you are wondering how the rest of the world thinks USA is doing with covid, then just try to cross your border and leave the USA. Home of the free, as long as you don’t want to leave. Most of the world is not allowing travellers from the USA into their country. Even Canada has closed our border to USA, and we don’t plan to reopen anytime soon. You’re our best closest neighbours and we don’t even want you to come visit right now.

#18863 3 years ago
Quoted from Swainer80:

As your obnoxious neighbor to the south, thank you for hosting the Stanley Cup. It has been a blast to watch and it is also nice to hear your National Anthem too!

And thank you guys for hosting baseball. The government wouldn’t let the blue jays play at home this year.

#18873 3 years ago

1 million death Mark was passed today

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#19103 3 years ago

Without getting political.

I was thinking about possible outcomes from this last turn of events. Everything from the administration gets better quickly to the administration loosing some members. This really does throw everything into a spin.

I really hope that trump experiences a bad enough time with the virus that it Changes his attitude on the severity of the situation. (Like Boris Johnson) hopefully a couple of his followers take it more seriously now too.

#19104 3 years ago

At 60 000 new cases a day, it will take 13 years to infect 300 000 000 people. I don’t see heard immunity ever being a reality unless transmission picks up dramatically, considering antibodies don’t last in your system that long.

I don’t think this will fizzle out by its self either.

Personally I think the next 5 years will see a lot of people pass away from this. Then the virus will become just like a regular flu killing tens of thousands each year. Covid will become endemic

Hopefully when I get it, my immune system will save me, or that medical professionals will have found a way to combat it and if needed that there is a bed in a hospital for me.

#19121 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

Sounds to me like the chickens are finally coming home to roost.

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#19159 3 years ago

Is it airborne? What’s that mean?

#19182 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

that the virus was being reported to have come out of a Wuhan laboratory

There’s a lot of people that don’t want to hear the truth about covid, it’s a head in the sand reaction, or a act of god. I could see you being downvoted by saying it look to come from a lab, a lot of people don’t want to hear that, even though it is a likely scenario.

Quoted from fosaisu:

"the virus was created in a lab" misinformation

I don’t think there has been definitive proof either way, but there is compelling evidence to suggest it was created in a lab

This is Biologist Bret Weinstein, he explains why he believes it may have been man made.

#19202 3 years ago
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#19210 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

To want things you happen to not agree with (for whatever thought) to be censored, only because one "believes" some conflicting story, only promotes the retardedness.
People generally only want censorship when there is something to Hide, or that they Really want suppressed.
Instead of wanting "conflicting" information censored, a reasonable person would consider it ... and if finding evidence based disagreement, would Disprove it ... or accept it as a possibility.
The only things that would not be censored are the stories that "prove" nothing corrupt is going on. Censorship is mainly about stopping everyday people learning about corruption.

Are you talking about blasphemy? There are a lost of people that don’t have critical thinking skills and just listen to what they are told, so providing these people with conflicting ideas could really mess them up. They think what they hear as the absolute truth. (No matter how crazy It sounds)

#19223 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

It comes down to some seemingly lost arts (since evidence gets buried or destroyed) of critical thinking, objective analysis, deductive reasoning.... identifying linking and discrediting information. Cross referencing.

You have to much faith in people. Some people believe that the earth is flat, and you want them the have critical thinking skills about something the world has never experienced before. You’re asking a lot from the simpletons.

#19279 3 years ago

Here’s my rant

Covid is not going away. This will become endemic just like a “normal flu” and kill “normally” tens of thousands of people each year just like the flu, unfortunately the first couple years of covid will not provide “herd immunity” we will need to “thin the herd” before covid decreases to normal flu activity.

A lot of people think the native Americans were killed through violence when the Spanish came, this is untrue. Most Native Americans were killed by small pox and other NEW viruses that were introduced to them. Well Covid is a NEW virus, that’s why it’s called a novel coronavirus, it’s new to the entire world population. Every one that this will severely impact runs the risk of death. The first couple years of covid will see hundreds of thousands of deaths globally until we thin the heard.

We will never reach heard immunity. The numbers don’t ad up. The covid antibodies only last in your system for ~3 months after that you can be reinfected, just like a normal flu. The new daily infection rate would need to be several hundred thousand per day to even hope to come close.

Mask wearing and hand washing will not keep you perfectly safe, but they are a good start. Everywhere you wear a mask you should also have goggles. These are safety precautions and do not guarantee 100% effectiveness, if they were 100% effective then you would not see doctors and front line workers become infected.

The CDC has said covid is airborne. This is scary. You could walk through a cloud of virus 30 minutes after someone coughed it out and still be infected. So unnecessary indoor time with more people then needed should be avoided. Do your shopping early in the morning before thousands of other people have been in the store that day.

Viral load is something to be concerned with. The more time that you are exposed to the virus the more likely you are to get it, and that you may develop a more severe case. Limit social interaction whenever possible. Social distancing helps, but is not 100%, it’s just another piece of the puzzle.

I think everyone will get it, and get it several times. My hope is that scientists will have discovered the best treatments by the time it comes to me, and if my case is severe enough, that there is a hospital bed waiting for me. This has the power to overload hospitals very quickly and we must do whatever we can to slow it down.

Flattening the curve is still a relevant thing to do. Judging by WorldOmeter this is killing about 3% of the infected population, but death is just one side of the story. Many people will continue to struggle with this for years to come, compassion is important. If society starts pointing fingers and saying “you got me infected” it won’t help. The world will never be the same, it’s time to move forward and work toward a new normal, whatever that will look like is to soon to tell.

To Long Didn’t Read:
This isn’t going to go away EVER. The worst is yet to come. Protect yourself and others. Buckle up, there’s a rough road ahead.

#19280 3 years ago

Also get outside. The sun give us vitamin D for free and it is very important for your immune system. Spend as much time as you can safely outside. The most important thing to do now is to keep yourself healthy. Work on boosting your bodies natural defences.

#19286 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

If we can get a vaccine that incites a good antibody response then I think we can significantly reduce our disease levels in the US, IF people will take the vaccine in large numbers. If you only vaccinate 50% of the population I think the case numbers will go down some but the pandemic will continue to smolder.

Assuming a vaccine was fully tested and ready for production tomorrow. How long do you assume it will take to manufacture and administer 150 million doses?

My totally uneducated guess is that it would take months to manufacture and a miracle to convince enough people to be effective

#19306 3 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

I'm sorry that you

You’re beginning to almost sound Canadian.

#19321 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

No I don't hold much value to newscorp. There are less "popular" but undoubtedly more reliable sources of information still available here, it just requires to actually look for it rather than taking only what you are "fed".

I’d really like if you could list 3-5 less popular news sources that you frequently read. I also like diverse perspectives so that I can sift through the static. If they are “undoubtedly more reliable sources” then I’d Like to access them also. Please, I’d like to know not only where you get your information from, but I’d also like the truth.

Quoted from razorsedge:

It actually isn't black and white. It's really quite cloudy. Telling the truth is subjective

I disagree here with you. I believe facts are black and white. Nothing is to cloudy to see through. I think you’re talking about opinion, not truth.

#19345 3 years ago
Quoted from pinmeds:

Yes I Understand that indoor minimally ventilated spaces are a huge problem, I've kept my Arcade closed since two days before it was mandated in March, and have not re-opened even though we had a few months where I could have, I just did not feel it was responsible, and now we're closed again anyway in any event...
But aside from how UV and temperature help or hurt the virus itself, what I was wondering specifically, once indoors, is if the lower RH is going to cause the viral load to be even higher since the indoor dry heated air will be able to hold more moisture from respired aerosols, as opposed to in a humid closed environment with a high RH, or would the humid environment be more likely to keep the viral load higher? Sorry if this doesn't make sense, your insight is greatly appreciated always.

My unprofessional opinion is try to keep your house humidity Between 40-60%RH. To dry and your skin will crack and become more susceptible, while to moist is unhealthy also. (Bonus Your pinball machines will be happy in that range too)

I have a humidifier built into my furnace with a HEPA filter for the whole house and large ionic air purifiers in the bedrooms.

I don’t know if it helps, but it help me feel ok.

#19460 3 years ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

The people from Indianapolis have started coming to the doughnut counties for the bars.

One local restaurant chain here (2 or 3 locations) have started checking ID with your reservation. If you live more then 15km away they won’t serve you. If your on the border you have to call first and make special arrangements.

#19522 3 years ago
Quoted from Trogdor:

we are printing money like it grew on trees

I read once not long ago that there is only about 5 trillion dollars cash in the world. The rest is just made up numbers in a computer.

Edit. Changed it from 3T to 5T, just did a quick Search

#19558 3 years ago

Multiple news outlets are reporting today that this years death rate in USA is 300 000 higher the previous years. If covid has only killed 217 000, where did the other 80 000 deaths come from?

Could this be worse then reported?

#19571 3 years ago

https://apple.news/A7vO9qAACTk--1wT9aSmGYQ

These 5 factors might make it more likely you suffer a “long covid”

The King's researchers found that while most people with Covid reported being back to normal in 11 days or less, around 1 in 7 (13.3%, 558 users) had symptoms lasting for at least four weeks, with around 1 in 20 (4.5%, 189 users) staying ill for eight weeks and 1 in 50 (2.3%, 95 users) suffering for longer than 12 weeks.

#19674 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Two weeks?
I've been at home for seven months now with only an occasional trip to get beer and food or something to fix my house.
I don't even care if I ever go to Disneyland again, but wouldn't mind bowling if the powers that be would let me. Oh yeah, the alleys are all closed down now and it looks like most will never open again.

I thought about building a backyard Bowling alley. Ya they’re a thing.

#19675 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Do you honestly think that someone's race has anything to do with them not wearing a mask? Your post is a real head scratcher for me......im seriously dumbfounded by it.

Masks are mandatory here in all stores unless you have a health condition that makes wearing a mask impossible. Funny thing is that I’ve only seen middle age or older white guys without a mask on too. Strange how they’re the only group of people with health conditions

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#19676 3 years ago
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#19680 3 years ago

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#19690 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

More testing equals more cases. Its that simple.

More testing doesn’t equal more cases. The cases will be there wether you test or not; You just know about them now. If you stop testing cases don’t stop.

I don’t know if your trying to blame more positive cases on more testing or what? The test don’t give you covid.

#19737 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

You sir, are living in a dream world to think the USA will or can ever become as efficient in this department as any of those countries

So, the USA is not as good as other countries?

Quoted from o-din:

The people in those countries are well educated on how to wear a mask properly, and have the intelligence and will to do so diligently. Not to mention being sanitary.

So, Americans are unintelligent, and uneducated To the point that they don’t understand science?

Quoted from o-din:

Of all the people in our country that say wear a mask, I am yet to see a plan on teaching Americans how to do this. Not even a start. All I see is some dicknose standing at a podium.

How much education is required to wear a mask properly? School children here have it figured out.

Quoted from PinMonk:

Total deaths to date per 100k population
---------------------------
Singapore 0.5
South Korea 0.9
Japan 1.3
Hong Kong 1.4
United States 66.9

I though America liked being number 1 in everything.

Quoted from Who-Dey:

We are a free country and we need to remain that way at all cost.

Didn’t the mask restrictions during WW1 and the Spanish flu. And the high tax on wealthy during the war, destroy your country? Why do you think it’s so fragile now? Do you think that this will never pass and that you life will forever be this way?

#19761 3 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I cant imagine anyone being dumb enough

You need a better imagination

#19786 3 years ago

I just read the good news. The pandemic has ended in the states.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/27/white-house-lists-ending-covid-19-pandemic-as-trump-accomplishment/#2981ca9e1034

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#20003 3 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

.i just flat out think people aren't taking it seriously over here.

I think a portion of people are exhausted by the precautions, they peaked to soon. I honestly think that there should have been no lockdown in the spring and summer for the sole purpose of enforcing a strict lockdown this fall and winter that people will take seriously. People needed to see the huge numbers before they’re going to give a shit.

Personally I’ve cancelled all plans for 2020, and 2021 is looking to be a write off also. Just stay safe.

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