I'm in Dallas and we are literally peaking right now. 250+ new cases identified every day for the last 7 days, down to 236 yesterday. Texas was under 1000 new cases per day when we started to re-open. We’ve been over 1000 and now 1100 every day but two since.

But we as a state are 49th or 50th in the country in tests conducted, so the numbers are clearly hampered by the lack of available testing. You still have to have a fever or be a front line worker exposed to get approved for testing here. Governor Abbott promised a phased re-opening, starting with the first phase which hasn't changed much in my area because no one wants to go to restaurants. But he jumped the gun on rolling out the next phase, and intends to bump up on the 18th to the next phase. There has been no increase in testing like he promised there would be before we moved forward into the next phases. And in fact, the Fed intends to close shop on two large testing locations locally that provide 1,000 of the currently 1,950 tests available per day to the county. The plan is quite clearly to avoid finding new cases by reducing the number of tests performed, thus avoiding identifying any surges in new cases. And they are coming. The second that we "re-opened" everyone got called back to work and a good segment of people dropped the masks and bothering to distance. Mother's Day was an amazing display of letting the guard down. We are going to spike to high holy hell starting the week of the 24th. June is going to be gnarly.

Fauci is popular. The administration is not. It’s insanity that they would throw him under the bus, but everyone saw him telegraphing that pitch. Whatever. He’s got bigger fish to fry with Howard Stern.

Hey-o.

85,000 American have died choking on their own lung fluid from a virus, in a little more than 60 days. That's a lot of dead people.

People don't have to agree on everything, but a modicum of caution surely is warranted. Wearing a mask in public is so restrictive and oppressive that we should rather sacrifice another 85K? Another 200K? How many dead people are worth not having to at least wear a mask? Be honest.

Yep. But it's nothing new. That's the exact same reason we get a mumps or measles outbreak still here and there. Herd immunity kicks in at an estimated 68-72% of exposure/vaccination. They get to freeload on the rest of us (this is literally the original use of the term freeload, which is ironic) and enjoy a return to pre-pandemic normal activity. It happened after the 1918 Flu, it'll happen again here. But there aren't enough of these guys that are so tough to not need masks (yet require a bazooka to order a sandwich at Subway for some purpose) to make us test that vaccination rate. They are the squeakiest wheels, but they aren't plentiful enough to concern ourselves over hitting the herd immunity eventually.

To be fair, that billboard has been up long before COVID-19 was an issue. They run a series of signs in a row, like Burma Shave. The one preceding the Risk It For Brisket one says something about holding your pee for a few more miles.

Debate the risks of exploding your bladder and contaminating your innards with urine as you wish. But it’s not that brazen.

Not my pig, not my farm.

You first, hombre.

Now you’re cooking with gas.

It’s a feeding tube.

Guys, the guy was obviously on a vent. See the tracheotomy scar? That’s a feeding tube run into his abdomen. Let’s quit looking to conspiracy everything.

Those foam rollers are great. I use one for my ridiculously tight IT band in one leg, almost daily.

Luckily, even the CDC has relented and acknowledges now that this virus isn't easily spread by surface contamination.

Yeah, I’m still wiping things down and treating every door knob like a COVID sufferer just licked it. But hopefully it will be a little forgiving to the relaxation of our guard that the fatigue is causing.

If that 2nd wave coming looks anything like the Fall 1918 wave, the choice will be made for everyone. The virus doesn’t give two wet farts about your or my economy. It’s not about anything but surviving, depending on your risk level, your area’s exposure threat and reality when the hospitals max out.

100,000 Americans are dead. What’s wrong with you?

How would we not cruise past 140K? We are picking up steam and exponential growth is happening before our eyes. Just because it took 8 weeks to go from 0-100K dead some of these people are acting like it never actually hit at all. Which is dumbfounding. We shut down and only managed to stifle it to 100K this far. 140K total dead would be a miracle at this point. We will be there by mid June.

Bullshit on you, pal. I know 8 that have caught it, three in one family, three in another, and one is dead. It’s not in your neck of the woods. Awesome. Go to Chuck E. Fucking Cheese if you want. But don’t tell me it’s not bad. And quit spewing OAN bullshit to the rest of us that you don’t know dick about. We’re catching 200 cases a day down here in my neck of the woods. Do you mind if I take this shit seriously? That Ok with you?

He was 54 and otherwise healthy. He was on a ventilator for 16 days. I don’t know anyone older than 61 that has caught the virus. Sorry it doesn’t fit your narrative, but it’s happened. What now?

According to the CDC, 2019-2020 flu season killed about 8,200 Americans. Could you be more wrong? Answer: Negative. Ignore with glee.

Please get off Breitbart long enough to find the definition of “pandemic” on that electronic computer device You are using.

Do you have anything from the AMA from 1951 telling us that red meat and cigarettes are good for us, also? It’s outdated information. What did you want?

Yep. You’ve sniffed it out. 7.79 billion of us are in on this ruse to convince you in Orwellian style to wear a mask for our nefarious purposes. None of us actually read what we claimed to read or saw what we claimed to see. And we’d have gotten away with it, too. If it wasn’t for you meddling true life V for Vendetta‘s on the pinball forum!!!

Ugh. Dallas County is officially in a 2nd spike now. Record high single day new cases today, record high single day deaths today: 257/16. That’s just Dallas Co. Tarrant County (Ft. Worth and Arlington) is just as bad. Note that it is right at the 4 weeks mark after Texas “re-opened” and 3 weeks post Mother’s Day weekend. We plateaued the week of the re-opening, and held steady for a few weeks and then saw a 25-30% reduction per day. Got down to like 170/day new. Back well up into the mid 200s now and climbing again. And before it is!asked, our testing is still abhorrent and lagging and has not increased for crap.

It’s such a mixed bag around here. A lot of people are really being careful still, and most major corporations are still working from home. But man, there are just plenty of people completely disregarding all distancing measures. I personally know several people that have gone through it, two people that have neighbors dead from it here, another guy that spent 27 days on a vent and miraculously lived (not doing well, but alive) and a guy that is one of the healthiest, in shape dudes I know that currently has it and says you do not want anything to do with this thing. He swears it takes him 10 minutes to get to the bathroom and he’s wheezing out of breath when he gets there and then back to bed. This guy runs 45-55 miles a week.

And Abbott will not relinquish an inch of control back to the local leaders. We get treated like the fly-over counties with 900 people and 6 total cases, just because we vote for other people around here. Shit. Not good, man.

And Abbott plowed right ahead with Phase 3 reopening today, despite Texas just piling on new cases and hitting the dark red on the “states seeing most new cases” map. 75% capacity bars and restaurants, here we come. 50% capacity pro sports arenas! Come to Arlington and see the Cowboys fart and fall down in the Death Star. Come for the 8-8 football. Stay for the pneumonia!

This state is stupid.

Dallas County’s record high for new cases lasted two days. New one set today! We are in the 280s per day now. With a little luck we will crack 300 by Monday! Oh boy! Who wants Corona? You’re getting Coronavirus! And youuurrrr getting Coronavirus!!!

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Yeah, we are effed. Houston and Dallas are on fire and nobody gives a damn. Everyone here is too stupid, too proud or too stubborn to take any precaution.

The safe and warm feeling of holding onto hope that a boogeyman created the virus in order to achieve a nefarious goal is much more comforting than the overwhelmingly most likely truth: shit happens and the Earth throws a purge our way every century or two, we have become far too dangerously reliant on meat sources and live animal propagation to maintain any measure of safety with regard to cross-species contamination, and nobody is in charge and in control other than the dipshits we see practicing dipshitery on a daily basis. Chaos sucks.

The 1918 mutation was rare, luckily. These things tend to mutate in a way to lessen human immune response, thus become less severe versus more so. This one isn’t going anywhere for summer, unfortunately, though. It’s going to be more of a slow burn than the 1918 second wave head-on crash. But the worst is yet to come, for sure. Parts of Arizona are cruisin’ for a bruisin’ right now. Texas has a shitload of hospitals in Houston and DFW, but those numbers are rising. I’m so much more concerned now than I was 2 and 3 months ago.

Our number are going up and we don’t have a total number of tests being performed because we have so many private labs that don’t keep numbers. But the rate of positive tests have increased from 4.9% to now over 7.5%. Our total cases discovered numbers have set record high numbers four days in a row and 5 days total last week, and our hospitalization and ICU numbers are increasing steadily. We are in the immediate danger Houston is in right now, but we are drinking straight toward that ditch. And Governor Abbott won’t do a damned thing about it, and will fight Houston when they try to usurp his “Open it up big and wide” order.

Prohibition, Ozzie & Harriet, and coked up yuppies. That’s a hell of a mix.

No. And neither has ours.

We are about to have hospitals bursting at the seams, while Abbott tells us that the bodies piled on the side of the road are nothing to worry about because there are still a few empty ICU beds in Dimebox, TX.

Went to A&M for undergrad.

We are in the middle of Stupid Time, Stupid City, USA. We should feel better that we are down around 1000 dead per day??? That’s another 365,000 dead per year, at our low point!! And the numbers in huge states are skyrocketing. New York got its shit under control. Now it’s boiling over in the South and other huge populous states. Texas is headed for disaster in DFW and Houston at a minimum. I’m just at a loss for what’s acceptable. We get what we deserve in this ridiculous country. Lord.

News is news. 2519 new cases in AZ today. 3207 new cases in FL today. 3516 new cases in TX today. CA? More than 4000. 121,407 dead in the US in 100 days. More US dead than the entirety of the decade-long Vietnam conflict and war. More US dead than in WW1.

News is facts. You don’t like facts? Tough shit. Now, are there channels that report 121,407 dead mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, grandmas and grandpas in a morose and sobering tone? Yep. Are there channels that report it as if the dead don’t matter? Yep. Are there channels worried about another 121,000 dying and reporting as if it’s a terrible omen? Yep. Are there channels reporting that all of science and logic and common sense is a lie so that your portofolios grow enough to make you happy so that you keep your cog in the wheel for the billionaires? Yep.

Pick your poison, but just because you don’t like facts doesn’t mean shit. Other than the rest of us have to step around you in the long, slow march back to humanity and sanity. Darwin will always win.

There is a difference between news and editorialization by those sitting in front of the camera talking over the news. I don’t like any of them, other than Anderson Cooper, honestly. I agree with the OPINIONS on CNN more than I do usually on Fox News, but they don’t speak for me nor do they form my own opinions. I watch all
Manner of TV without being zombified by the scripts.

There hasn’t been a Walter Cronkite since Walter Cronkite. You have to think for yourself. Or watch Nickelodeon.

I see silver linings and darker linings from the newest data. The death rates are down (from the 5% morbidity that we had seen so far) I suspect due to the fact that this latest peak of the first wave of cases is skewing far younger than the earlier infections. I know our average age of infection here right now is early to mid 30's - from shitheads in bars not bothering to take any precautions.

The tougher development is that the long-term effects on the lungs looks awful for a lot of people. I know a few that have dealt with it, in their 40s and 50s, who can't climb stairs in their house or walk to the parking lot without getting winded severely now. I think that this a lot of us are more committed to never getting this thing than we were earlier on in the ordeal. I, too, was of the mindset that the point of flattening the curve was to space out the inevitability that we were all getting in, and just save the medical system from being overwhelmed. Well, I have a different opinion of it now. I don't want this thing taking years off the back end of my life for respiratory scarring and complications. Additionally, we now know that this thing is particularly bad for blood type A. I am A+, reconfirmed in the past two weeks by test just to make sure. So....I don't want this shit. And frankly, I don't give a damn what any non-epidemiologist thinks or has to say about this. In particular, anyone that clearly approaches everything from a well-honed Breitbart echo chamber rationale.

Regardless, our hospitals in DFW are bursting at the seams. ICU full at UTSW, and they are already moving more beds into the ICU and using the ER as triage at the Baylor and Preby systems. We have a ton of hospitals, but we have too many COVID patients already to take another few days like we have seen the past two weeks. And there is no sign of anything but things getting worse so far.

Yeah, that's not a valid point. The vaccines in Phase II trials are effective so far. We haven't bothered with many coronaviruses prior, and certainly never this well funded and dedicated. Most are nuisance viruses at best. The worst have been far less contagious and spread, obviously. This particular coronavirus does not mutate fast. Thus, effective vaccine is exponentially more likely. And ultimately, even if it isn't effective forever in theory, eliminating the virus entirely by herd immunity with the vaccine will, at best kill it off with one round. At worst a few over the coming years.

And it's a nice flourish of the wrist to throw a huge number like 200,000 out there for years we didn't create an effective vaccine. I would counter by pointing out that it's about the amount of time that humans quit wiping our asses with leaves. Vaccines were unknown and, at best, theoretical until 224 years ago. That's relevancy of 0.00112 of the time period you want to argue we should consider. Don't do that. Overreaching exposes your soft tummy. Stick to the dark meat.

I think I argue both points just fine. But whatever. You are right. I have to do me. And right now I choose to believe that the resources produce something that is effective to a greater degree than unmitigated exposure.

Me? No. A family member? Yep. And a neighbor at another facility.

...and I'm not quite understanding your question. You are suggesting that the ICUs are being crammed full due to the availability of the ER to all patients? Ummmm....what? If someone gets brained in a motorcycle wreck, they get to come into the ER and go to the ICU, whether or not COVID patients are the focus. On the other hand, they aren't stashing non-critical care patients in the ICUs just because they have room there. Hospitals are open for all necessary patients at all times, unless it's on fire, I guess. Elective procedures might have been contributing to less general hospital beds (non-ICU) in the past weeks. But whether Gov. Dipshit has cut them out again or not, the hospitals around here are reeling those back now.

You can’t compare the failures of vaccination against one virus type to another. HIV mutates way more and in different ways than Coronaviruses mutate. And specifically this one, which isn’t mutating much and very quickly.

Man, hurts to miss that one so bad. Geesh.

I spoke to my buddy that is an internist at one of the big hospitals here this AM. The 3 main systems have ICUs that are now full or will be full within the next 2-3 days. I asked him if he had heard anything about moving to set up the pop up hospital they had plans for at the Dallas Convention Center. His response: “I think pop up funeral homes is the way Texas Government is leaning right now.”

Florida gonna Florida. We need to start sawing that sucker off.

Yeah, we are out of ICU space and they are moving adults to the children's hospital, and the doctors here are begging us to please stay home and quit infecting one another because they cannot keep up. But imma just tell them to fuck off with that noise because a dude on a pinball forum says it's all fake news. Time to high step down to the mall.

OAN and FoxNews and the Alex Joneses of the world are telling them that masks are government control mechanisms. And in a remarkable twist of irony, the prevailing argument from the crowd following the absolute morons, crisis profiteers, actors and grifters on those media platforms is that the rest of us are the lemmings that are blindly following the advice of dubious persons. Make no mistake, the most dangerous thing that the US has going for it these days is this: a full 35% of this country is stupid. And I mean really, really stupid. They want to believe they are oppressed, or that they know something the rest don't, or that there are vicious and evil actors controlling the media and the government and the AMA, etc... They want to believe these things because they are stupid and weak, and to acknowledge that there is randomness and unpredictability and chaos in the world would be too much for them to weather. No matter how insane and harebrained the theory is to the rest of us, to them it is just simply better than having to believe that something might just be going to shit because things go to shit. If I have a boogeyman to blame, at least I have something to justify my digging my heels in to hold onto my position and never evolve or think for myself.

Well, fruit and tree, right?

lol. Laura Ingraham was telling Virginians to sue the state over masks not long ago. Come on.

Texas just shut the bars again. And cut back restaurant capacity. Abbott should take the word “never” out of his vocabulary and save himself the kind of headache that is coming from the hard stupid now.

People are pretty worried up here. My buddy across the street runs sheetrock and makes a killing. I stopped and talked to him this morning while I was walking the dogs and he said for the first time since this started, he has had to start sending guys home that show up coughing and obviously sick, and/or that come in telling them that they have a family member that just tested positive. Said he's paying like a dozen guys to stay home right now, because he knows that if he doesn't they will just go catch onto another crew and make those guys sick. He was pretty wigged out about it.

Now, the guys I know in the Houston area? Those guys are shitting bricks.

601 cases and 20 deaths today in Dallas.

Save yourselves. Just let us go.

That was the record for a day, and was an anomaly thus far. 1 was light, though, too. 6-12 is what we've been seeing. That 20 was on a Monday, and i suspect it was when the normal rounds doctors were back on the ICU floor and made the calls to shut some down.

We have big issues down here, bud. And I’m afraid to say that the rest of the world might have to go at it without us for awhile.

Florida gonna Florida. But do not count us out.

Uhhhh.....how are you doing math? 135k/3.1M = .0435 = 4.35%. And according to you, we should all therefore be rightfully scared.

And stop with the “numbers are only high because tests are high” crap. That’s been disproven repeatedly and nobody believes it. Do what you want, but stop vomiting disinformation.

Yeah, and we also don't know how many people have died from COVID complications that were never diagnosed or tested. So, in the end, there is a lot left out of the wash. We have the numbers we have. And if we really want to be technical, dividing by a number that includes the existing known cases is in error statistically. You are, by definition, counting existing people on ventilators and headed for death in the case total, but not the death total. We can move all over the place, but I can show you scarier numbers on dead for every way anyone wants to do math the other way.

I think we can all agree that COVID-19 causes more deaths than are comfortable to just live with, and our current guidance and response is lacking to contain this thing.

Dallas alone was at 1200 today. And have been over 1000 for 8 straight days. ICUs full. People are about to die because we are out of room to treat them, and it sucks.

A little 4 act piece on COVID:

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Budesonide is the generic and now OTC form of Rhinocort Aqua. I’ve taken it for years for seasonal allergies. It’s a silver bullet for you if you suffer from severe tree and grass allergies, especially in spring bloom. But I’ll tell you what else I know about it: you need to be on it for a course of at least 5-7 days before the allergens appear, or you get zero relief. It is in no way a drug that treats anything on a prn or acute basis. I find it difficult to believe that anyone would get immediate relief from it for any acute symptom, absent a significant build up in the system. And 12 patients being treated by a Family Practitioner isn’t exactly the most solid dataset. But hey, I’ve got a metric assload of the stuff. If I go down you’ll have your answer.

Between masks and being outside, the protests seem to have been much less of a problem than the Breitbart crowd would like. If we could just get everything outside for the time being, especially school, I think we would be fine to resume a lot of activities.

Just a hair under 11,000 new cases in Texas today = new record. 87 dead = new record.

The roof is on fire.

Houston and Dallas ISDs are going to virtual-only school for the first several weeks now. As if it's getting better and they will be opening in September. Here we go. Time to stay home again.

Man, I opened a bottle the other day that was straight up moonshine. Smells fresh from the Red River County river bottoms.

The rate of death cannot take into account the undiagnosed persons without symptoms, which would naturally lower the rate. However, it is a mathematical fallacy to include people still sick and/or treating in the "closed cases" denominator. The people that are going to die tomorrow are counted as a sick number today. If you divide by the total number, including those currently sick, you are artificially deflating the death rate by including them into an equation as lived, when they very well could be counted on the dead.

That said, the death rate is more than 1% and less than 5%. But who the fuck cares? 1% is too many. 5% is too many. Any is too many. Wear your goddamned masks. We don't care if you don't think that you can't filter out every small micron. They are working, when we can get everyone to wear them. Every study says so. Quit being contrarians about something that has been scientifically proven to reduce spread and stop these peaks. Seriously. The shaming is going to get worse if you don't become good neighbors and citizens. You don't get to smoke in the car with the windows up and your kids in the backseat anymore. You don't get to lock your dog in a hot car anymore. And you don't get to walk into stores and busy public indoor places without masks anymore. Get used to it. We don't give a shit about your objections.

Why don't you believe in science? What is the research team in your laboratory conducting that contradicts every legitimate scientific source of information on viral control on this thing? Can we expect the study soon? Will it be peer reviewed by the Army Navy Store in West Va? Wear. A. Damned. Mask. And. Stop. Whining.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/health/covid-19-three-things-will-stop-it-wellness/index.html

For the first time in 19 days, Dallas County reported less than 1000 new cases today. Deaths are ticking up, but the catch-up was inevitable with the numbers between 1100-1250 a day the last 3 weeks. But fingers crossed we may be plateauing on the spread.

What’s it being attributed to locally? Mask compliance. Huh. I’ll have to alert the civil authorities that fabric masks don’t catch every single virion and are thus useless. I heard it from a reliable source.

Truth is that the elderly, the military and the high risk are going to be the guinea pigs for this vaccine. Those of normal health and risk will have no choice but to wait a few months, and by the time our opportunity comes we will either have proof that it's safe or we will have zombies.

I saw RATM in Astro Arena in Houston in 1997. Drove down from college. We were on the front row of the floor standing room GA area, against the fence. Well, until I got booted in the school from a crowd surfer behind us and I crumpled like a sack of rocks. Had to go get checked out by EMS on the side of the stage for a few minutes, but they let me go back into the crowd. I was concussed 100% and don’t remember a ton about the last half of it, but that show was amazing. And the loudest thing I have ever experienced.

Because influenza is a wholly different animal. It's not as contagious as this virus, and certainly not by the same mechanisms. Just because something is effective for one virus does not mean it is an effective preventative against another. That is NOT a difficult concept to grasp. The people claiming to just "have some questions" are full of shit. This is a complete inability to differentiate between entirely different strains of entirely different disease. Do you also go to the zoo and demand that the tigers be kept in the aquarium, because crocodiles are also man eaters?

It's a brave new world. Masks will stick around after this thing runs its course. I suspect flu season will be full of masks from this point forward. Although I think that the handwashing and sanitizing protocols are going to be more important to deal with influenza, but I also think that hand shaking and direct contact with non family members will be a thing of the past for many people, too.

Or 17,000....whichever. Every media outlet in Europe and Germany is saying this was less than 20,000 people claiming to be 1.3 million. And you are here lamenting that someone isn't reporting your made up number? Who is pushing disinformation on whom here?

They also hurt cops. But don’t you acknowledge that fact. That won’t work for you, either.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-45-officers-injured-at-berlin-rally-against-coronavirus-curbs/a-54402885

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8583397/Thousands-protesters-join-march-against-coronavirus-measures-Germany.html

So a country of 83 million people (with a fraction of our cases), who shut down from the start and stayed on top of the virus, now has "thousands" of protesters taking to the streets and getting trashed by local news agencies? And? What does this prove, other than your propensity to over exaggerate that which you think bodes well for your unpopular opinion? The organizers touted 1.3 million, much like someone we know in this country likes to claim big numbers that are objectively proven to be ridiculously overstated.

Eh. Humans do overall. 29% of Americans don't. I avoid that 29% like the plague.

Yeah, let's not address mental health issues in a constructive and safe way. Instead, let's open the doors and pretend like everything is normal, and let other kids die, or take home COVID to infect and kill other people, so that the kids with the depression can be placated without mom and dad getting off their asses and parenting.

Any discussion of a public interest in preserving life for any child of any age by the right, under any situation from this point forward, is purely discredited, debunked, and untenable.

The "we have God given rights for EVERYTHING" argument is so ridiculous. No you do not. If you actually want the right to live unfettered and unencumbered by any obligation or restriction, I have a map to Somalia and a canoe for you. Get to rowing and go become a pirate in your new lawless utopia.

Oh, they are not. You talk about being in the middle of nowhere, out in the country, where "everyone" is also moving as fast as they can, too. You haven't bothered to respond to the countless people that posed questions directly to you about your 1.3M vs 17,000 snafu above. If everyone is fleeing the cities, how are there just countless millions in them to do this protesting? Cake and eat it, much? Nothing you say is true. It's a pattern. We all know it. Look at your posts here. The downvote to upvote ratio is staggering.

This thread is winding down, just like the virus is disappearing, huh? You have posted in this thread 323 times overall, and 9 times in the past 72 hours. That’s far and away the majority of your posts in that time period here. That’s winding down to you? You have offended me, and this IS a headache for the mods, for sure -- but in huge part because of the blatant misrepresentations and outright falsifications from you and a small handful of others. This thread has become a constant battle against absurd gas-lighting, fact distortion, regurgitation of scientifically disproved arguments and/or outright lies, and blatant pushing of poorly formed opinions as facts.

Sorry. I don’t just leave it alone. Not my style. Go on about your business as well. Just don’t expect me not to call this out when I come across it.

Rex Chapman's Twitter got popular for his Block or Charge series of posts. And some of them were the funniest things I've ever seen on Twitter.

That MyPillow guy makes my skin absolutely crawl. Ugh.

DFW is actually getting so much better and safer now, too. Ugh. I'm afraid we will see complacency again and that the fall and winter wave is going to be really nasty. This sucks so much.

Doc is of course right on the money here. Not that the contingency that really should pay attention will or can. HIV itself has never caused one death in all of its recorded history. The virus replicates, becomes uncontrolled, and leads to AIDS and a host of co-morbidities that eventually kill its host. See: pneumonia complications causing death in AIDS patients.

How about just calling it horse shit? Because that’s what it is.

The percentage of positive tests can only be based on the total number of tests performed. How many tests are positive? The number of county residents? What does that have to do with anything? If they didn’t get tests, they aren’t part of the equation.

Lol. Oops.

Zero. Until then, fuck your choice.

I’ve posted 85 times in this thread over the past months. Many times at length and with patience. Go read through them if you give a damn, because frankly I no longer have the slightest of patience for ignorant bullshit such as what you are peddling. Otherwise, see the good doctor’s response above.

And I answered your question. Zero. Zero unnecessary deaths is the number.

______ days since the needless erasure of someone else's mother/father/child/loved one's existence off the face of the planet forever, just because I am a selfish, narcissistic, callous and heinous piece of monkey shit.

There. The higher the number we achieve, the better. We start at 1. God help us.

This is an ice cold take. What the fuck?

Some people suck.

You clearly haven’t been watching the Stock Market thread. The old investment guru over there thinks the magic bullet is out tomorrow.

That sounds very realistic. And is still a laser-focused, super efficient and lightning-quick development. That transverse myelitis case was really a concern, and they have all certainly been back peddling on any suggestion of the October Surprise assist for Trump. I don’t know what he’s intent to stick into someone’s are by 11/3, but it won’t be a vaccine for COVID-19.

Went out to grab some stuff yesterday, and hit the Super Target in an area closer to Daditude’s side of town. I go there b/c since March/April I have seen total compliance with the mask mandate and no overcrowding issues. Not yesterday. For the first time. It was overpacked, a ton of families with all the damned kids everywhere, and masks were half-assed. People with them pulled down under their chin, several people that would just hold it up to their mouths as you got near them, some just had them hanging off their ears. It’s a damned shame, but the numbers are clearly about to go up again. Here we go.