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#3501 9 months ago
Quoted from wrb1977:

A TRUE LOCKDOWN IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE. In theory, yes, it would be effective. But the reality of a “true” lockdown is a fantasy

The more you press down the more things will squish out the sides. Combined with hundreds of years of "dont tread on me" attitude wont stop the outbreak.

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#3503 9 months ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

I have about 20 of the n95 masks in my shop. I asked my buddy if his wife, a nurse, wanted them. He said they're not allowed to bring their own masks into the hospital and because it's an opened box the hospital cant take them; because the might not be sterile.
I guess I'll hold onto them for friends and family.

A fair point but I work with her husband and he said she's worried about PPE and masks.

Which is the greater evil: not having a mask, or having one you didn't personally make and sterilize yourself? When hospitals are running out anyway, and people are making masks out of fabric, and/or considering "washing" used ones, that's a bigger problem than donated masks in their original packaging. So I figure it better to at least make the offer. I don't need them anymore, and certainly not for life/death. My concrete project can wait. If they are turned down then that's not on me, I did what I could.

#3504 9 months ago

For those of you that think we can just go back to normal work ASAP - without a science driven approach.

My son lives in Michigan and works for a small company, 12 employees or so. Started working from home 3/12. Found out today he was exposed to a coworker on 3/6 who started exhibiting flu like symptoms around 3/8 or 3/9.

That coworker was not given a CV test, despite asking for one constantly, and only found out it was CV 2 nights ago (3/24) when admitted to the hospital. Never given a test until symptoms were bad enough for hospital admission. Coworker is young and otherwise healthy btw.

No one has attempted to trace the coworker's contacts. My son is thankfully past the 14 day quarantine period - that he did not even know he was on - and has no symptoms.

This virus is all over the place. There are no strategies fully in place yet that allow us to think we are ok back at work. We still do not have adequate testing, no follow up plans for contact tracing/quarantine/follow up (like South Korea and others), we won't have adequate data until there is adequate testing for xx days/weeks, no proven treatments yet, and we have ZERO PPE available for non-healthcare workers to go back to work with.

#3505 9 months ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Here is my city list taken from; https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/03/24/these-are-the-16-essential-business-sectors-that-will-remain-open-during-the-stay-home-work-safe-order/
Ready, take a deep breath, can you hold it for as long as it takes to read this:
go
Essential Retail
Grocery stores
Warehouse stores
Furniture suppliers
Big box stores
Bodegas
Liquor stores
Gas stations
Convenience stores
Farmers’ markets that sell food products and household staples
Food cultivation including farming, ranching, fishing and livestock
Food production including the production of canned goods, bottled beverages and other grocery items
Businesses that ship or deliver groceries, food, goods or services directly to homes
Restaurants and other facilities that prepare and serve food, but only for deliver, drive-thru or carry out
Schools and other entities that typically provide free services to students or members of the public on a pick-up or take-away basis only
Restriction of delivery or carry-out does not apply to cafes or restaurants within hospitals or medical facilities
Laundromats, dry cleaners and laundry service providers
Gas stations, auto supply, auto and bicycle repair, hardware stores, and related facilities
Healthcare / Public Health
Workers providing COVID-19 testing; Workers that perform critical clinical research needed for COVID-19 response
Caregivers (e.g., physicians, dentists, psychologists, mid-level practitioners, nurses and assistants, infection control and quality assurance personnel, pharmacists, physical and occupational therapists and assistants, social workers, speech pathologists and diagnostic and therapeutic technicians and technologists)
Hospital and laboratory personnel (including accounting, administrative, admitting and discharge, engineering, epidemiological, source plasma and blood donation, food service, housekeeping, medical records, information technology and operational technology, nutritionists, sanitarians, respiratory therapists, etc.)
Workers in other medical facilities (including Ambulatory Health and Surgical, Blood Banks, Clinics, Community Mental Health, Comprehensive Outpatient rehabilitation, End Stage Renal Disease, Health Departments, Home Health care, Hospices, Hospitals, Long Term Care, Organ Pharmacies, Procurement Organizations, Psychiatric Residential, Rural Health Clinics and Federally Qualified Health Centers)
Manufacturers, technicians, logistics and warehouse operators, and distributors of medical equipment, personal protective equipment (PPE), medical gases, pharmaceuticals, blood and blood products, vaccines, testing materials, laboratory supplies, cleaning, sanitizing, disinfecting or sterilization supplies, and tissue and paper towel products
Public health / community health workers, including those who compile, model, analyze and communicate public health information
Blood and plasma donors and the employees of the organizations that operate and manage related activities
Workers that manage health plans, billing, and health information, who cannot practically work remotely
Workers who conduct community-based public health functions, conducting epidemiologic surveillance, compiling, analyzing and communicating public health information, who cannot practically work remotely
Workers performing cybersecurity functions at healthcare and public health facilities, who cannot practically work remotely
Workers conducting research critical to COVID-19 response
Workers performing security, incident management, and emergency operations functions at or on behalf of healthcare entities including healthcare coalitions, who cannot practically work remotely
Workers who support food, shelter, and social services, and other necessities of life for economically disadvantaged or otherwise needy individuals, such as those residing in shelters
Pharmacy employees necessary for filling prescriptions
Workers performing mortuary services, including funeral homes, crematoriums, and cemetery workers
Workers who coordinate with other organizations to ensure the proper recovery, handling, identification, transportation, tracking, storage, and disposal of human remains and personal effects; certify cause of death; and facilitate access to mental/behavioral health services to the family members, responders, and survivors of an incident
Law Enforcement / Public Safety / First Responders
Personnel in emergency management, law enforcement, Emergency Management Systems, fire, and corrections, including front line and management
Emergency Medical Technicians
911 call center employees
Fusion Center employees
Hazardous material responders from government and the private sector.
Workers – including contracted vendors -- who maintain, manufacture, or supply digital systems infrastructure supporting law enforcement emergency service, and response operations.
Energy
Electricity workers
Workers who maintain, ensure, or restore, or are involved in the development, transportation, fuel procurement, expansion, or operation of the generation, transmission, and distribution of electric power, including call centers, utility workers, reliability engineers and fleet maintenance technicians
Workers needed for safe and secure operations at nuclear generation
Workers at generation, transmission and electric blackstart facilities
Workers at Reliability Coordinator (RC), Balancing Authorities (BA), and primary and backup Control Centers (CC), including but not limited to independent system operators, regional transmission organizations, and balancing authorities
Mutual assistance personnel
IT and OT technology staff – for EMS (Energy Management Systems) and Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) systems, and utility data centers; Cybersecurity engineers; cybersecurity risk management
Vegetation management crews and traffic workers who support
Environmental remediation/monitoring technicians
Instrumentation, protection, and control technicians
Petroleum workers:
Petroleum product storage, pipeline, marine transport, terminals, rail transport, road transport
Crude oil storage facilities, pipeline, and marine transport
Petroleum refinery facilities
Petroleum security operations center employees and workers who support emergency response services
Petroleum operations control rooms/centers
Petroleum drilling, extraction, production, processing, refining, terminal operations, transporting, and retail for use as end-use fuels or feedstocks for chemical manufacturing
Onshore and offshore operations for maintenance and emergency response
Retail fuel centers such as gas stations and truck stops, and the distribution systems that support them
Natural and propane gas workers:
Natural gas transmission and distribution pipelines, including compressor stations
Underground storage of natural gas
Natural gas processing plants, and those that deal with natural gas liquids
Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) facilities
Natural gas security operations center, natural gas operations dispatch and control rooms/centers natural gas emergency response and customer emergencies, including natural gas leak calls
Drilling, production, processing, refining, and transporting natural gas for use as end-use fuels, feedstocks for chemical manufacturing, or use in electricity generation
Propane gas dispatch and control rooms and emergency response and customer emergencies, including propane leak calls
Propane gas service maintenance and restoration, including call centers
Processing, refining, and transporting natural liquids, including propane gas, for use as end-use fuels or feedstocks for chemical manufacturing
Propane gas storage, transmission, and distribution centers
Water and Wastewater
Operational staff at water authorities
Operational staff at community water systems
Operational staff at wastewater treatment facilities
Workers repairing water and wastewater conveyances and performing required sampling or monitoring
Operational staff for water distribution and testing
Operational staff at wastewater collection facilities
Operational staff and technical support for SCADA Control systems
Chemical suppliers for wastewater and personnel protection
Workers that maintain digital systems infrastructure supporting water and wastewater operations
Transportation and Logistics
Employees supporting or enabling transportation functions, including truck drivers, bus drivers, dispatchers, maintenance and repair technicians, warehouse workers, truck stop and rest area workers, and workers that maintain and inspect infrastructure (including those that require cross-jurisdiction travel)
Employees of firms providing services that enable logistics operations, including cooling, storing, packaging, and distributing products for wholesale or retail sale or use.
Mass transit workers
Workers responsible for operating dispatching passenger, commuter and freight trains and maintaining rail infrastructure and equipment
Maritime transportation workers - port workers, mariners, equipment operators
Truck drivers who haul hazardous and waste materials to support critical infrastructure, capabilities, functions, and services
Automotive repair and maintenance facilities
Manufacturers and distributors (to include service centers and related operations) of packaging materials, pallets, crates, containers, and other supplies needed to support manufacturing, packaging staging and distribution operations
Postal and shipping workers, to include private companies
Employees who repair and maintain vehicles, aircraft, rail equipment, marine vessels, and the equipment and infrastructure that enables operations that encompass movement of cargo and passengers
Air transportation employees, including air traffic controllers and maintenance personnel, ramp workers, aviation and aerospace safety, security, and operations personnel and accident investigations
Workers who support the maintenance and operation of cargo by air transportation, including flight crews, maintenance, airport operations, and other on- and off- airport facilities workers
Public works
Workers who support the operation, inspection, and maintenance of essential dams, locks and levees
Workers who support the operation, inspection, and maintenance of essential public works facilities and operations, including bridges, water and sewer main breaks, fleet maintenance personnel, construction of critical or strategic infrastructure, traffic signal maintenance, emergency location services for buried utilities, maintenance of digital systems infrastructure supporting public works operations, and other emergent issues
Workers such as plumbers, electricians, exterminators, and other service providers who provide services that are necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences
Support, such as road and line clearing, to ensure the availability of needed facilities, transportation, energy and communications
Support to ensure the effective removal, storage, and disposal of residential and commercial solid waste and hazardous waste
Communications and Information Technology
Communications
Maintenance of communications infrastructure- including privately owned and maintained communication systems- supported by technicians, operators, call-centers, wireline and wireless providers, cable service providers, satellite operations, undersea cable landing stations (including cable marine depots and submarine cable ship operators), Internet Exchange Points, and manufacturers and distributors of communications equipment
Workers who support radio, television, and media service, including, but not limited to front line news reporters, studio, and technicians for newsgathering and reporting
Workers at Independent System Operators and Regional Transmission Organizations, and Network Operations staff, engineers and/or technicians to manage the network or operate facilities
Engineers, technicians and associated personnel responsible for infrastructure construction and restoration, including contractors for construction and engineering of fiber optic cables
Installation, maintenance and repair technicians that establish, support or repair service as needed
Central office personnel to maintain and operate central office, data centers, and other network office facilities
Customer service and support staff, including managed and professional services as well as remote providers of support to transitioning employees to set up and maintain home offices, who interface with customers to manage or support service environments and security issues, including payroll, billing, fraud, and troubleshooting
Dispatchers involved with service repair and restoration
Information Technology:
Workers who support command centers, including, but not limited to Network Operations Command Center, Broadcast Operations Control Center and Security Operations Command Center
Data center operators, including system administrators, HVAC & electrical engineers, security personnel, IT managers, data transfer solutions engineers, software and hardware engineers, and database administrators
Client service centers, field engineers, and other technicians supporting critical infrastructure, as well as manufacturers and supply chain vendors that provide hardware and software, and information technology equipment (to include microelectronics and semiconductors) for critical infrastructure
Workers responding to cyber incidents involving critical infrastructure, including medical facilities, SLTT governments and federal facilities, energy and utilities, and banks and financial institutions, and other critical infrastructure categories and personnel
Workers supporting the provision of essential global, national and local infrastructure for computing services (incl. cloud computing services), business infrastructure, web-based services, and critical manufacturing
Workers supporting communications systems and information technology used by law enforcement, public safety, medical, energy and other critical industries
Support required for continuity of services, including janitorial/cleaning personnel
Other community-based government operations and essential functions
Workers to ensure continuity of building functions
Security staff to maintain building access control and physical security measures
Elections personnel
Federal, State, and Local, Tribal, and Territorial employees who support Mission Essential Functions and communications networks
Trade Officials (FTA negotiators; international data flow administrators)
Weather forecasters
Workers that maintain digital systems infrastructure supporting other critical government operations
Workers at operations centers necessary to maintain other essential functions
Workers who support necessary credentialing, vetting and licensing operations for transportation workers
Customs workers who are critical to facilitating trade in support of the national emergency response supply chain
Educators supporting public and private K-12 schools, colleges, and universities for purposes of facilitating distance learning or performing other essential functions, if operating under rules for social distancing
Hotel Workers where hotels are used for COVID-19 mitigation and containment measures
Critical manufacturing
Workers necessary for the manufacturing of materials and products needed for medical supply chains, and for supply chains associated with transportation, energy, communications, food and agriculture, chemical manufacturing, nuclear facilities, the operation of dams, water and wastewater treatment, emergency services, and the defense industrial base. Additionally, workers needed to maintain the continuity of these manufacturing functions and associated supply chains.
Hazardous materials
Workers at nuclear facilities, workers managing medical waste, workers managing waste from pharmaceuticals and medical material production, and workers at laboratories processing test kits
Workers who support hazardous materials response and cleanup
Workers who maintain digital systems infrastructure supporting hazardous materials management operations
Financial services
Workers who are needed to process and maintain systems for processing financial transactions and services (e.g., payment, clearing, and settlement; wholesale funding; insurance services; and capital markets activities)
Workers who are needed to provide consumer access to banking and lending services, including ATMs, and to move currency and payments (e.g., armored cash carriers)
Workers who support financial operations, such as those staffing data and security operations centers
Chemical
Workers supporting the chemical and industrial gas supply chains, including workers at chemical manufacturing plants, workers in laboratories, workers at distribution facilities, workers who transport basic raw chemical materials to the producers of industrial and consumer goods, including hand sanitizers, food and food additives, pharmaceuticals, textiles, and paper products.
Workers supporting the safe transportation of chemicals, including those supporting tank truck cleaning facilities and workers who manufacture packaging items
Workers supporting the production of protective cleaning and medical solutions, personal protective equipment, and packaging that prevents the contamination of food, water, medicine, among others essential products
Workers supporting the operation and maintenance of facilities (particularly those with high risk chemicals and/or sites that cannot be shut down) whose work cannot be done remotely and requires the presence of highly trained personnel to ensure safe operations, including plant contract workers who provide inspections
Workers who support the production and transportation of chlorine and alkali manufacturing, single-use plastics, and packaging that prevents the contamination or supports the continued manufacture of food, water, medicine, and other essential products, including glass container manufacturing
Defense Industrial Base
Workers who support the essential services required to meet national security commitments to the federal government and U.S. Military. These individuals, include but are not limited to, aerospace; mechanical and software engineers, manufacturing/production workers; IT support; security staff; security personnel; intelligence support, aircraft and weapon system mechanics and maintainers
Personnel working for companies, and their subcontractors, who perform under contract to the Department of Defense providing materials and services to the Department of Defense, and government-owned/contractor-operated and government-owned/government-operated facilities

These definitions will be thoroughly manipulated to allow just about everyone who makes something for a living to keep working. My state is only allowing life sustaining businesses to be open, and they processed 15,000 waivers for people outside the actual list like yours. Pretty much everyone but bars, restaurants and gyms are still open. Its disgusting.

#3506 9 months ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

Slowing it is goal so everyone doesn’t get sick in a short period of time which would destroy hospitals and people would die on gurneys waiting for space...or so I’ve heard.

Not sure if you read the whole thing, sorry it was so long, but I did say that it’s all about slowing it!

#3507 9 months ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

The more you press down the more things will squish out the sides. Combined with hundreds of years of "dont tread on me" attitude wont stop the outbreak.

An hour after our governor announced a stay in place order, 25 dumb fucks lined up outside a liquor store (in the pouring rain) that will not be closing during the order.

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#3508 9 months ago
Quoted from beergut666:

An hour after our governor announced a stay in place order, 25 dumb fucks lined up outside a liquor store (in the pouring rain) that will not be closing during the order.[quoted image]

Gotta get Pappy when it comes in, no matter what's happening.

#3509 9 months ago
Quoted from beergut666:

An hour after our governor announced a stay in place order, 25 dumb fucks lined up outside a liquor store (in the pouring rain) that will not be closing during the order.[quoted image]

Well the good news is they were practicing social distancing

#3510 9 months ago
Quoted from RTR:

For those of you that think we can just go back to normal work ASAP - without a science driven approach.
My son lives in Michigan and works for a small company, 12 employees or so. Started working from home 3/12. Found out today he was exposed to a coworker on 3/6 who started exhibiting flu like symptoms around 3/8 or 3/9.
That coworker was not given a CV test, despite asking for one constantly, and only found out it was CV 2 nights ago (3/24) when admitted to the hospital. Never given a test until symptoms were bad enough for hospital admission. Coworker is young and otherwise healthy btw.
No one has attempted to trace the coworker's contacts. My son is thankfully past the 14 day quarantine period - that he did not even know he was on - and has no symptoms.
This virus is all over the place. There are no strategies fully in place yet that allow us to think we are ok back at work. We still do not have adequate testing, no follow up plans for contact tracing/quarantine/follow up (like South Korea and others), we won't have adequate data until there is adequate testing for xx days/weeks, no proven treatments yet, and we have ZERO PPE available for non-healthcare workers to go back to work with.

That's good your son is healthy. The testing process does seem odd. If you have symptoms, and go to a drive up testing location you are more often than not (from what I read) told your symptoms don't warrant testing and to go home to self isolate for 14 days. If symptoms get worse you are then told to come back which for some people is too late as they needed hospital care earlier.

If people are being told to go home and self isolate for 14 days why are they not being given a test?

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#3511 9 months ago

Everyone that wants to just go back to normal asap;
doesn't get it yet.

This has changed the world. This is a waypoint in history like 911. You will be able to remember a time before Cov-19, and a time after. Nothing will be "like the way it was before".

#3512 9 months ago
Quoted from Eightball88:

So unless you know what you are doing, it sounds like the possibility of false negatives is quite high. There is probably a YouTube somewhere that shows the proper procedure but still, the follow on effects of a false positive could be very unfortunate.
Doctor, did I hear correctly that it actually takes 2 consecutive results to confirm one way or another, or is that it takes 2 consecutive negative results to confirm that a person has recovered from the virus?
Thank you for the time you are taking to answer our questions and provide useful and authoritative information. I am always on the lookout for your posts here!

Previously the CDC was requiring a confirmation test to call someone positive but that was early on. I doubt they are still requiring that now.

#3513 9 months ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Glad to year your son is healthy. The testing process does seem odd. If you have symptoms, and go to a drive up testing location you are more often then not (from what I read) told your symptoms don't warrant testing and to go home to self isolate for 14 days. If symptoms get worse you are then told to come back which for some people is too late as they needed hospital care earlier.

Everything involved is so scarce these days that we are left with the following.

From a patient care perspective, testing is not necessary until hospitalization. You think you were exposed? Stay home. Think you are super human healthy? Stay home. Think you definitely have it? Stay home.

Can’t breathe? Call ahead, then head where they tell you to. Maybe you get a test, but the benefits of that test are mostly for the healthcare workers around you so that they can save PPE if possible.

#3514 9 months ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

I have about 20 of the n95 masks in my shop. I asked my buddy if his wife, a nurse, wanted them. He said they're not allowed to bring their own masks into the hospital and because it's an opened box the hospital cant take them; because the might not be sterile.
I guess I'll hold onto them for friends and family.

Honestly that’s a stupid move by the hospital admin if true. N-95s aren’t sterile in the first place box opened or not.

#3515 9 months ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

Everyone that wants to just go back to normal asap;
doesn't get it yet.
This has changed the world. This is a waypoint in history like 911. You will be able to remember a time before Cov-19, and a time after. Nothing will be "like the way it was before".

It’s so terrifying that people don’t want to accept it. And honestly, 9/11, which really directly affected few people, has nothing on this.

#3516 9 months ago

For me and my family we get priority testing, but only because they want to avoid quarantine for my wife if possible.

If I get a positive result, I just get locked in the basement until I recover or am hospitalized.

I’m kinda the opposite of an essential worker. I am just a vector to an essential worker.

#3517 9 months ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

If people are being told to go home and self isolate for 14 days why are they not being given a test?

1. Tests are not widely available yet so we are prioritizing high risk cases.
2. For a low risk patient there is no difference in the treatment whether you test or not. Patients are presumed positive and told to self isolate and monitor their symptoms. It would be no different if they were tested. Even a negative test doesn’t completely rule it out because of possible false negatives so you still have to quarantine.

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#3518 9 months ago

This is why the numbers of actual cases are so much higher, if they posted the true numbers that are actually 10-40 times higher more people would take notice and follow the restrictions. My wife has been ill in bed for 6 days, called the 811 health line after 5 days and got told they are only testing health workers, hospitalized patients and extended care facilities so you know the true case totals are way off.

#3519 9 months ago
Quoted from Oaken:

Everything involved is so scarce these days that we are left with the following.
From a patient care perspective, testing is not necessary until hospitalization. You think you were exposed? Stay home. Think you are super human healthy? Stay home. Think you definitely have it? Stay home.
Can’t breathe? Call ahead, then head where they tell you to. Maybe you get a test, but the benefits of that test are mostly for the healthcare workers around you so that they can save PPE if possible.

The testing is important for more than treating the ill. They are downplaying the importance of the test because they f*cked it up, because they don't have the capacity yet, and because they don't have the personnel and PPE to conduct the tests widely.

Believe me - if Faucci and Birx could have 20x the tests done than what they currently have, they would love to have that data to make better decisions. If they could have been testing in February - when they should have been - then it is very likely we would not be in the mess we are currently in.

Trump and De Blasio rarely agree on anything, but they both agreed in early March that everyone should be out and about and ignoring CV - they had no real data to base that decision because of no testing. Now look where we are in NYC.

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#3520 9 months ago

Oh look, now we're concerned about suicides. Those poor 1%'ers.

#3521 9 months ago

Considering we still have an active crowd of mommy groups and other self-proclaimed experts on pages like Nextdoor proclaiming auto accidents and the flu kill way more, we are still doomed.

Average of 100 per day for auto accidents in the US.
167 a day on average for the flu.
200+ deaths a day right now from COVID-19.

We can put that one to bed now.

#3522 9 months ago

rtr Oh yeah, it’s definitely a messed up situation. Everyday my wife comes home it’s hard to not get more and more worried. So many aspects of this are cribbed from a Kafka novella.

#3523 9 months ago
Quoted from goingincirclez:

A fair point but I work with her husband and he said she's worried about PPE and masks.
Which is the greater evil: not having a mask, or having one you didn't personally make and sterilize yourself? When hospitals are running out anyway, and people are making masks out of fabric, and/or considering "washing" used ones, that's a bigger problem than donated masks in their original packaging. So I figure it better to at least make the offer. I don't need them anymore, and certainly not for life/death. My concrete project can wait. If they are turned down then that's not on me, I did what I could.

To clarify his wife is in the maternity ward, not in the ER. With new born infants they probably want to be safe with where they get their equipment from.

#3524 9 months ago
Quoted from lowbeau67:

Home delivery from Kroger here yesterday
went well. Some substitutions but worth the extra 15
bucks.

The home delivery places should have a “surprise item” option at check out. You select a dollar amount and they just toss in something random for that price into your delivery. Would be like Christmas or your birthday, where you get something totally random that you may have never used or tried before. Gives grocers a little boost to their revenue like a spontaneous buy at the checkout.

#3525 9 months ago
Quoted from Oaken:

rtr Oh yeah, it’s definitely a messed up situation. Everyday my wife comes home it’s hard to not get more and more worried. So many aspects of this are cribbed from a Kafka novella.

I wasn't disagreeing with you and understand that testing isn't important for treatment right now in most people. I am generally against any test that won't impact my treatment.

#3526 9 months ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

The home delivery places should have a “surprise item” option at check out. You select a dollar amount and they just toss in something random for that price into your delivery. Would be like Christmas or your birthday, where you get something totally random that you may have never used or tried before. Gives grocers a little boost to their revenue like a spontaneous buy at the checkout.

If I was the person bagging, I'd throw in condoms in every purchase.

#3528 9 months ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

The home delivery places should have a “surprise item” option at check out. You select a dollar amount and they just toss in something random for that price into your delivery. Would be like Christmas or your birthday, where you get something totally random that you may have never used or tried before. Gives grocers a little boost to their revenue like a spontaneous buy at the checkout.

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#3530 9 months ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

1. Tests are not widely available yet so we are prioritizing high risk cases.
2. For a low risk patient there is no difference in the treatment whether you test or not. Patients are presumed positive and told to self isolate and monitor their symptoms. It would be no different if they were tested. Even a negative test doesn’t completely rule it out because of possible false negatives so you still have to quarantine.

Thanks for the info!

#3531 9 months ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Well that was eye opening to see. This entire thing could have been better contained if a week or two ago the country was shut down for 3 weeks. Instead some states are issuing stay at home orders, others are not, and the federal government is all over the place with their response. If a major project at a company was run this way (meaning no plan, no consistency) a number of people would be fired.
One thing I heard today is that if a family member or friend gets hospitalized you can't go see them as hospital staff won't take the risk for you to become infected and spread the virus to others. There's a real possibility that if a loved one goes into the hospital that it will be the last time you ever see them. Then imagine if you are the one in the one hospitalized and there's the possibility of passing away without any friends or family around you. I don't know about anyone else but that's enough to scare the s*it out of me.

I agree and have been saying NYC, Seattle, and the Bay Area should have been locked down without air travel starting 2-3 weeks ago. That would have helped contain the spread to the rest of the country significantly and allowed the limited equipment & resources to be focused on those areas instead of stretched too thin.

Too many Americans think that measures such as these are unconstitutional or limit their freedoms. While true in the short term, sometimes measures such as these are necessary for the sake of public health and to prevent things from getting worse and the loss of more lives.

No one at the federal or local level wanted to make the tough decisions to take the steps necessary and lock things down when they needed to be and now we're going to have to live with consequences.

#3532 9 months ago
Quoted from Utesichiban:

No one at the federal or local level wanted to make the tough decisions to take the steps necessary and lock things down when they needed to be and now we're going to have to live with consequences.

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#3533 9 months ago

Just remember, "I take no responsibility" and "You're on your own". 5 star leadership. I need to leave a yelp review.

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#3534 9 months ago
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#3536 9 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

It’s so terrifying that people don’t want to accept it. And honestly, 9/11, which really directly affected few people, has nothing on this.

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#3537 9 months ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

Have you ever had the desire to really beat someone's ass.

Daily.

#3538 9 months ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

Everyone that wants to just go back to normal asap;
doesn't get it yet.
This has changed the world. This is a waypoint in history like 911. You will be able to remember a time before Cov-19, and a time after. Nothing will be "like the way it was before".

Exactly. After 9/11 I would always view things as pre or post 9/11. Now the last couple weeks watching archived sports or concerts on YouTube I view as pre-Covid19 world.

#3539 9 months ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

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Like every other tragedy in history, we learn by experience because nobody listens to the warnings! This has been warned about for decades! Imagine if this was a pneumonic version of Ebola! This can happen at any time.

#3540 9 months ago

How soon until we learn that we don't need sports stadiums? /flamesuit on

#3542 9 months ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

Have you ever had the desire to really beat someone's ass.

On a daily basis.

#3543 9 months ago
Quoted from Zablon:

How soon until we learn that we don't need sports stadiums? /flamesuit on

Well they might need the hockey rinks as makeshift morgues like they did in Spain.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/europe/spain-ice-rink-morgue-coronavirus-intl/index.html

Also, I wonder if people will start using BC for our timeline Before Coronavirus.

#3544 9 months ago

Meanwhile Pinside nerds claiming they beat people daily on Coronavirus threads

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#3545 9 months ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

NSFW because of language.
A good friend of mine has a 7 year old that's not allowed to have friends over. He keeps asking dad why his friends get to play outside together.

Yeah my 11 year old daughter had a hard time yesterday when she saw her two friends riding bikes together and we wouldn't let her go out. One of the girl's mom is a nurse at the hospital. Luckily my daughter is a good kid and understands, but it didn't make it easier.

#3546 9 months ago

There’s several reports like that.

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#3548 9 months ago
Quoted from Coindork:

There’s several reports like that.[quoted image]

It's all just an extension of the facebook/twitter/instagram 'look at me' for likes mentality. Nothing different than the people going around filming themselves opening and licking ice cream containers and putting them back. Or tidepod challenges...etc.

All platforms should remove any like/dislike functionality and much of this would be curbed as it gets lost in the landslide of trash that gets posted daily.

#3549 9 months ago

Wondering if NAVL / Beltman / Precision are shut down or are they still moving product? Anybody with recent contact using one of these pinball delivery companies please provide an update. I've heard truckers are still trucking.

#3550 9 months ago
Quoted from Coindork:

There’s several reports like that.[quoted image]

he could maybe 500 hours of community service...at his local nursing home

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