(Topic ID: 264520)

The official Coronavirus containment thread


By Daditude

10 months ago



Topic Stats

  • 21,269 posts
  • 516 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 2 hours ago by Pinball_Gizzard
  • Topic is favorited by 84 Pinsiders
  • Topic is sticky in its sub-forum

You

Topic Gallery

There have been 3,064 images uploaded to this topic. (View topic image gallery).

Capture d’écran 2021-01-15 à 13.49.41 (resized).png
Screen Shot 2021-01-14 at 10.47.46 PM (resized).png
832DE6A4-0AF1-47C3-85B6-CBFFA3248F68.jpeg
13cc28ad2b0b_4360.gif
pasted_image (resized).png
pasted_image (resized).png
Screenshot_20210112-100838~2 (resized).png
632156087 (resized).jpg
Screenshot_20210110-212343~2 (resized).png
Screenshot_20210109-135825~2 (resized).png
Screenshot_20210108-135004~2 (resized).png
ki7F73qMI7238_VB3t1r4Y8Yw_5bwYdW5OtJdhF5yTo (resized).jpg
5g covid (resized).jpg
Screen Shot 2021-01-06 at 1.52.07 PM (resized).png
Screen Shot 2021-01-06 at 8.23.11 AM (resized).png
georgia (resized).PNG

Topic index (key posts)

139 key posts have been marked in this topic, showing the first 10 items. (Show topic index)

There are 21272 posts in this topic. You are on page 5 of 426.
#201 10 months ago

Yes they detected 2 strains, but one they found only a few samples of.

Researchers analyzed 103 sequenced genomes using strains from China, and found that 70% of strains were one type, which they called "L." The "L" strain was more aggressive than the remaining 30% of strains, which were dubbed "S."

Dr. Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa who has researched SARS and MERS, said that the new paper didn't prove that one strain was more aggressive or faster spreading than the other.

Note: this is from a week ago so there may be newer updated data

14
#202 10 months ago
Quoted from cdnpinbacon:

This is fascinating Doctor. Thank You for trusted opinions.

You’re welcome. I’m just another pinhead trying to do what I can to help our community.

#203 10 months ago

Lots of people will be following your lead.

#204 10 months ago

Someones research apparently wasn't as comprehensive as they thought.

#205 10 months ago

I think the biggest fear is to have it bloom all at once which will overload the system. Kind of a power surge that pops a breaker. The thing is just trying to get everyone on board with just laying low for a while.

#206 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

L type and S type.

Ok, confirmed. So not panicking over 2 strains. If that’s increases significantly then I’ll change my opinion

#207 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

Without significant limitations on person to person spread it will become widespread within a month or so in the US.
Yes, we will eventually get a handle on it, the question is how many people will die before we do. If we keep our medical system from being overwhelmed we will have fewer deaths.
Vaccine is 12-18 months from being widely available from what I have seen and heard so far.
There are several drugs out there that may have some benefit based on anecdotal evidence but it remains to be seen if that effect will hold up under more widespread use. I will say that there isn’t a whole lot we have in our toolbox at the moment so most doctors are willing to try drugs that may help.
Thanks for your questions.

Thank you. Can I/we assume you are currently working in hospital? Of so, how are your PPE supplies holding up? Do you expect PPE shortages in future if you are not already experiencing them? How well is the mental state of the health care workers were you are located? Are they keeping it together or are they starting to freak out?

#208 10 months ago

This guy.

Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Ok, confirmed. So not panicking over 2 strains. If that’s increases significantly then I’ll change my opinion

11
#209 10 months ago
Quoted from hAbO:

I think the biggest fear is to have it bloom all at once which will overload the system which can cause more deaths than needed. Kind of a power surge that pops a breaker. The thing is just trying to get everyone on board with just laying low for a while.

This is correct. The idea of flattening the curve is to avoid overloading our medical system in the short term.

Also important to realize that many patients in China were infected by people who were not yet showing symptoms. That’s why it’s important to follow the guidelines for social distancing even if you don’t feel sick.

#210 10 months ago

Any microbiologists here to interact with the Doctor?

#211 10 months ago

Meanwhile, in Italy...
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/europe/italy-military-coronavirus-intl/index.html

FYI, France is currently 9-days late compared to Italy. In other words, what happens in Italy today is what we will experience in 9 days. We manage to increase the gap by two days (it was 7 not too long ago) and I don't really know why/how.

11
#212 10 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Thank you. Can I/we assume you are currently working in hospital? Of so, how are your PPE supplies holding up? Do you expect PPE shortages in future if you are not already experiencing them? How well is the mental state of the health care workers were you are located? Are they keeping it together or are they starting to freak out?

I worked in a hospital for 11 years and left that to open a clinic about 18 months ago. I was informed yesterday by my old hospital that I could be called back in during a surge.

PPE supplies are not great. We need more gowns and N-95 masks.

The folks I know are doing ok, here in Texas we haven’t seen a surge like what is happening in New York yet. We’re all concerned but determined to do our jobs the best we can.

#213 10 months ago

What is your best Guess Doctor on the business as usual time? 1, year?

#214 10 months ago
Quoted from cdnpinbacon:

What is your best Guess Doctor on the business as usual time? 1, year?

It’s not clear yet however my personal guess is that this current outbreak will extend into May/June at least. We may see a lull in the summer and I am hoping we don’t see another spike in the fall.

Not sure on business as usual. My guess is the current 15 day effort is 15 days and reassess.

#215 10 months ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

If they were reporting Covad 19 and Covad 20, etc we’re developing then I’d be concerned

Your continuous misspelling "Covad" says it all.

#216 10 months ago
Quoted from hAbO:

I think the biggest fear is to have it bloom all at once which will overload the system. Kind of a power surge that pops a breaker. The thing is just trying to get everyone on board with just laying low for a while.

Exactly - lowering the peak.

Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Ok, confirmed. So not panicking over 2 strains. If that’s increases significantly then I’ll change my opinion

Ironically, when a virus mutates it normally becomes less aggressive, not more aggressive.

Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

This is correct. The idea of flattening the curve is to avoid overloading our medical system in the short term.
Also important to realize that many patients in China were infected by people who were not yet showing symptoms. That’s why it’s important to follow the guidelines for social distancing even if you don’t feel sick.

The worrying part, that wolfemaaan just doesn't seem to be able to grasp, is that both the US and the UK have fewer ICU beds per capita than Italy, where the system is already beyond breaking point.

#217 10 months ago

How many days are we (USA) behind Italy?

#218 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

I’m reluctant to wade into this thread but in the interest of helping someone who may have honest questions I will.
I am a board certified internal medicine physician working in the Fort Worth, Texas area.
If anyone has a question regarding COVID-19 I will be happy to try and answer.
Please be aware I will ignore troll posts.
Thanks, wash your hands, limit your unnecessary exposure to others and stay safe!

Is it true that you can be reinfected, or is once you get it and recover there is no chance of catching it again?

#219 10 months ago

That is undetermined yet

#220 10 months ago
Quoted from Atrain:

How many days are we (USA) behind Italy?

Hard to say, the US curve is currently closely mirroring that of Italy. We won’t know whether the social distancing is making a difference until next week sometime.

#221 10 months ago

Doctor be prepared for alot of questions coming your way but we all knew you were a doctor anyhow..Thanks again for your info as you know it

13
#222 10 months ago
Quoted from henrydwh:

Is it true that you can be reinfected, or is once you get it and recover there is no chance of catching it again?

That’s not yet clear. Generally you will be immune to a strain of virus after recovering from it. Having said that there are two strains currently known and it’s not clear if you can get S type after recovering from L type or vice versa.

There are some reports of reinfections but it’s not clear whether these are testing anomalies or true reinfections. Stay tuned.

#223 10 months ago

It's just been announced over here in the UK that all cafes, pubs, bars, restaurants, clubs etc will be closed indefinitely from tonight. Only takeaways will be allowed to open.

Also, another 627 people have died in Italy in the past 24 hours, the largest daily rise since the start of the outbreak.

-1
#224 10 months ago

I did not see the cumulative total deaths for the yearly normal flu (influenza);
in the History of Pandemics.
I guess since the yearly (seasonal) flu,
which still kills 100s of thousands of people every year (Globally)
(Tens of Thousands deaths every year nationally)
has never been called a pandemic with exception of the Spanish flu (post WWI era).

#225 10 months ago

Doctor: Are there hiv threads attached to this virus making it hide?

#226 10 months ago

Anybody planning on starting some online tournaments or anything like that?

#227 10 months ago
Quoted from cdnpinbacon:

Are there hiv threads attached to this virus making it hide?

There is not a link between SARS-CoV-2 and HIV.

This virus has an ability to spread in the 2-3 days before symptoms appear in the patient. That’s why it appears to hide.

#228 10 months ago

Student loan repayments have been suspended. I can't give credit where credit is due in fear that it would be considered ....

#229 10 months ago

Thank You. ..A question I wanted answered

#230 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

Without significant limitations on person to person spread it will become widespread within a month or so in the US.
Yes, we will eventually get a handle on it, the question is how many people will die before we do. If we keep our medical system from being overwhelmed we will have fewer deaths.
Vaccine is 12-18 months from being widely available from what I have seen and heard so far.
There are several drugs out there that may have some benefit based on anecdotal evidence but it remains to be seen if that effect will hold up under more widespread use. I will say that there isn’t a whole lot we have in our toolbox at the moment so most doctors are willing to try drugs that may help.
Thanks for your questions.

When can we start saying 11-17 months on the vaccine?

#231 10 months ago
Quoted from Zablon:

If the economy can't withstand what is happening now, then it wasn't much of an economy. If everything was the best its ever been 2 weeks ago, where are all the reserves? That money didn't just disappear. It traded hands..and who's hands do you think it went to?

All the money is in the hands of the 1% and chances are it will be staying there.

19
#232 10 months ago

I have a niece, who happens to be a teacher, posting pics on Facebook of her and her 4 boys and their girlfriends over for dinner. When someone posted about staying home, she said they're like family and share the same germs anyway.

I'm fucking speechless.

#233 10 months ago

Pinball_Gizzard What steps is your random hospital in Texas taking to expand capacity in preparation for a likely patient crunch? Do you have estimates on when infections/hospitalizations/deaths will peak?

#234 10 months ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

I have a niece, who happens to be a teacher, posting pics on Facebook of her and her 4 boys and their girlfriends over for dinner. When someone posted about staying home, she said they're like family and share the same germs anyway.
I'm fucking speechless.

Well I suppose as long as they keep it in the family?

#235 10 months ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

I have a niece, who happens to be a teacher, posting pics on Facebook of her and her 4 boys and their girlfriends over for dinner. When someone posted about staying home, she said they're like family and share the same germs anyway.
I'm fucking speechless.

Shame them and call a family meeting so everybody can sink it in

#236 10 months ago
Quoted from Zablon:

tough call when someone is basically spreading what could be considered false information as fact, but the reality is we don't really know one way or the other yet...

There is a bunch of this in this thread and particularly the prior thread from people saying that it was no big deal to people saying the world is going to end today. People are letting fear and politics cloud judgment. Please think before you post, folks.

11
#237 10 months ago
Quoted from sataneatscheese:

Pinball_Gizzard What steps is your random hospital in Texas taking to expand capacity in preparation for a likely patient crunch? Do you have estimates on when infections/hospitalizations/deaths will peak?

The hospital has surge plans in place. Physicians and nurses in the community may be called back into the hospital to see patients.

Case peaks will depend on whether the American people act responsibly to control the spread.

#238 10 months ago

pinball_gizzard So SARS was linked to be a seasonal wintertime virus. Are you expecting the same behavior from Covid 19 meaning the warmer summertime weather will solve this on its own?

11
#239 10 months ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

pinball_gizzard So SARS was linked to be a seasonal wintertime virus. Are you expecting the same behavior from Covid 19 meaning the warmer summertime weather will solve this on its own?

SARS was a novel coronavirus that jumped from animals to humans similar to SARS-CoV-2. It’s not a seasonal virus in the same way we think of seasonal flu.

Viral illnesses in general are less common in the summer months. This is related to people being outside more and inside less as well as the effect of UV light helping to inactivate viral particles.

I am hopeful we will see a decrease in transmission during the summer but it is possible we see another surge in the fall. It’s too early to tell. Right now we need to focus on mitigating the damage from the current outbreak.

-4
#240 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

SARS was a novel coronavirus that jumped from animals to humans similar to SARS-CoV-2. It’s not a seasonal virus in the same way we think of seasonal flu.
Viral illnesses in general are less common in the summer months. This is related to people being outside more and inside less as well as the effect of UV light helping to inactivate viral particles.
I am hopeful we will see a decrease in transmission during the summer but it is possible we see another surge in the fall. It’s too early to tell. Right now we need to focus on mitigating the damage from the current outbreak.

Ok so you are expecting Covid 19 to possibly shell itself and then return when it gets cold again.

Curious why it’s impervious to hot weather? Maybe I should suntan and keep my heater on

#241 10 months ago

Fishing

#242 10 months ago

Is that jean Cretian asking about the elephant in the room? Any opinion is democratic until the person asking stops talking

#243 10 months ago

DOCTOR : the virus is just as active in hot weather?data says yes ...A certain strain is more active in heat ?

#244 10 months ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

I have a niece, who happens to be a teacher, posting pics on Facebook of her and her 4 boys and their girlfriends over for dinner. When someone posted about staying home, she said they're like family and share the same germs anyway.
I'm fucking speechless.

Stupidity will be our doom. There is no end to it. Ive had some in my family as well.

32
#245 10 months ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Ok so you are expecting Covid 19 to possibly shell itself and then return when it gets cold again.
Curious why it’s impervious to hot weather? Maybe I should suntan and keep my heater on

I would encourage you to take this pandemic seriously and follow the recommendations of the medical community and your government. If not for you, then for your neighbors. If nothing else, cut my colleagues in your area a break and do your part to reduce the number of patients we have to treat in the hospital.

Quoted from cdnpinbacon:

DOCTOR : the virus is just as active in hot weather?data says yes ...A certain strain is more active in heat ?

I haven’t seen data showing a significant difference based on ambient temperature of the area. If we saw a marked increase in transmission in southern hemisphere countries we might suspect some effect but we are not seeing that.

#246 10 months ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Ok so you are expecting Covid 19 to possibly shell itself and then return when it gets cold again.
Curious why it’s impervious to hot weather? Maybe I should suntan and keep my heater on

no need for a heater..your full of "hot air"

#247 10 months ago

If the airlines get bailed out it still may not be enough to save the airline industry.

The small regional carriers do not appear to be a part of the relief package.

"Two regional airlines that fly feeder flights for United, Delta and American airlines will halt operations in the next few weeks, marking the first US carriers to be grounded by the coronavirus outbreak."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/business/regional-airlines-halt-operations-coronavirus/index.html

#248 10 months ago

Doctor: should we shut down the world until 2021? Your opinion. Last question

#249 10 months ago
Quoted from cdnpinbacon:

Doctor: should we shut down the world until 2021?

Hah, no. This virus will probably be an issue at some level for 12-18 months until the vaccine is widely available. Life will probably look different until then but I don’t think a shutdown will be needed for that long.

#250 10 months ago

Interesting read. Severity of the virus possibly linked to the use of anti-inflamatory drugs such as ibuprofen.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/do-you-want-to-know-why-so-many-people-in-italy-are-dying-of-the-coronavirus

Promoted items from the Pinside Marketplace
From: $ 99.99
$ 29.99
Cabinet - Sound/Speakers
Lighted Pinball Mods
$ 66.95
Cabinet - Shooter Rods
Super Skill Shot Shop
$ 25.00
Cabinet - Other
Filament Printing
$ 7.00
$ 15.00
Playfield - Protection
Pin Mods
From: $ 10.00
Playfield - Other
Gameroom Mods
$ 249.00
Lighting - Led
PinballBulbs
$ 159.99
Lighting - Other
Lighted Pinball Mods
$ 12.50
Various Novelties
UpKick Pinball
$ 10.00
Playfield - Decals
Metal-Mods
$ 40.00
Lighting - Led
B & K Mods
$ 24.99
Lighting - Led
Lee's Parts
$ 4.49
Electronics
Yorktown Arcade Supply
$ 0.00
Playfield - Other
PinJewels
$ 10.00
Cabinet - Decals
Docquest Pinball Mods
From: $ 1.25
Playfield - Other
Rocket City Pinball
From: $ 12.99
Eproms
Matt's Basement Arcade
$ 125.00
From: $ 99.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
RGP Models
$ 48.00
Cabinet - Other
ModFather Pinball Mods
$ 35.00
Cabinet - Decals
Pinball Haus
$ 37.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
The MOD Couple
$ 95.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
M&M Mods
$ 9.95
$ 99.99
Lighting - Other
Lighted Pinball Mods
$ 48.00
Cabinet - Other
ModFather Pinball Mods
$ 15.00
Electronics
Third Coast Pinball
$ 5,999.00
Pinball Machine
Classic Game Rooms
There are 21272 posts in this topic. You are on page 5 of 426.

Hey there! Got a moment?

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? Please donate to Pinside, support the site and get anext to your username to show for it! Donate to Pinside