Rockwall, TX
Quoted from pinwiztom:Bet you anything come Monday there will be a spike in cases reported.
I'm in Vegas right now, and I don't think I could find anyone to take that bet!
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Speaking of Las Vegas, I am happy to report that most people out here seem to take it very serious. Most people are masked everywhere I go, and all businesses I've seen require masks and enforce the rules.
This is all a great departure from Texas...
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:I no longer wear a mask as I've been vaccinated. However, if a location requires a mask, I'm more than happy to wear one. It's called being respectful.
Same here, and I am still trying to avoid crowds and keep plenty of distance.
I do keep a mask in my shirt pocket, and if the store ends up being more crowded than I would like I put the mask on.
Quoted from pinballjah:Congratulations to the USA, what a dramatic drop in new cases for 7/24, down to 27,395 from 118k the day before. There must have been some states that double reported certain results yesterday as 118k seems like a very unusually high amount of new cases for a single day. This is the lowest total since 7/18! Even the UK continues it daily drop in cases down to 31k, from 36k, 40k and 44k reported in preceding days. Maybe we have turned a corner?
Weekend reporting. Many states don’t report out until Monday.
Better to just look at 7 day averages, takes out the weekend/holiday noise.
Also keep an eye on percent positive tests. Places like Arkansas are over 20%. If it stays that high but overall confirmed cases go down, it simply means they aren’t testing enough. (Honestly, anything over 10% tells me they aren’t testing enough.)
Lots of governors have been playing various games with the numbers since the beginning. See no evil, hear no evil hasn’t exactly worked yet, but darn it they will keep giving it the college try!
Quoted from dirkdiggler:I'm curious what the percentage of people here still wear masks when shopping and those who don't? I still do!
My wife and I still do. We don’t want to take the chance and be a “Breakthrough” case. Our parents are in their 80s and vaccinated so we do it for them as well.
We don’t report until Tuesday now, and give a three day total. And nobody is masking here now - even in the blue areas. They think we have herd immunity because of one report from one hospital. Meanwhile our numbers are going up exponentially.
Weekend numbers are always lower because the state agencies are closed on weekends and the reports pile up some.
My personal expectation and what I am hearing of the projections here in North Texas anyway is that we will see a spike and a peak sometime in September. They are predicting about 50% of the max cases that we had last winter but still enough to stress the hospital system.
Also, local numbers are that about 80% of hospitalized cases are unvaccinated and about 85% of ICU cases are unvaccinated. That does mean we are seeing a decent amount of breakthrough infections with delta though, more than the 5-10% I've seen reported nationwide.
Quoted from rkahr:Here we are, the Sunday prior to doors opening in Allentown. On the national Mayo Map all the states surrounding PA except Maryland have flipped from yellow to Orange: https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map . There is no green - the key starts with yellow and has 7 coloring steps, so PA is one of the few states nationwide remaining at the lowest level.
Today PA turned red. I just got a huge hand sanitizer dispenser for general use at my spaces at Pinfest. Even though vaccinated I'm going from a cloth mask to an N-95 for the duration of the show. Shit is getting out of hand. With a large number of potentially unvaccinated people showing up, this has super spreader potential. I hope not.
Even in my little pinball world I know several anti-vax "I'm not worried" people attending Pinfest. Mask up! 10% chance to get infected from the Delta even if vaccinated.
Quoted from mcluvin:Lot’s of coughing in a Florida Costco today.
I have posted that I keep a mask in my shirt pocket in case a store is crowded, well if I was in a store with any coughing, not only would I put the mask on, I would run out the door as fast as I can.
Luckily in the last year and a half, I have never been anywhere that any coughing was going on.
I have chilled out with the hand sanitizer stuff though, it is still there, but I am back to soap and water pretty much.
But if anyone were to cough on me, I would probably take a rubbing alcohol bath, and throw those clothes in the neighbors trash can, 2 streets away from my house.
Quoted from tomdrum:Today PA turned red. I just got a huge hand sanitizer dispenser for general use at my spaces at Pinfest. Even though vaccinated I'm going from a cloth mask to an N-95 for the duration of the show. Shit is getting out of hand. With a large number of potentially unvaccinated people showing up, this has super spreader potential. I hope not.
I'll be there with a cloth covering and behind a flea market table. Hoping the distance will help. I have a feeling I'm not going to play much. I'm starting to question why I'm going. :/
Quoted from alexmogil:I'll be there with a cloth covering and behind a flea market table. Hoping the distance will help. I have a feeling I'm not going to play much. I'm starting to question why I'm going. :/
If you are worried, stay away from crowds. I was at Red Rock casino yesterday and it was packed. One of the bars (Rocks Lounge) with two sets of twelve video poker machines surrounding the bartenders had all machines taken with maskless patrons. Fortunately, the bartenders were masked.
If I had questioned myself why I went there, it was to grab lunch and have fun. Bonus are the bikini-clad servers in the pool area. Even with masks, they were stunning.
Quoted from MrBally:Bonus are the bikini-clad servers in the pool area. Even with masks, they were stunning.
Hmm... I'm talking about Allentown Pinfest. I don't want anything at all to do with bikinis at that place.
Quoted from mcluvin:Lot’s of coughing in a Florida Costco today. I’m an idiot for going in there…
In the grocery store this weekend, most were mask less, lady walks past us, then a few feet away coughs, and clearly did nothing to cover it.
I told the wife, THAT is why we are still wearing our masks!
Quoted from tomdrum:Today PA turned red.
Not on the Mayo map: https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map/pennsylvania - most counties are still yellow. Not that Mayo is better than any other; it's just my previous post about regional "coloring" was based on their coloring scale.
Quoted from alexmogil:I'll be there with a cloth covering and behind a flea market table. Hoping the distance will help. I have a feeling I'm not going to play much. I'm starting to question why I'm going. :/
I'm going to have downdraft ventilation set up over the table in my booth. Essentially a string of fans that blow a column of air directly downward. It's not a wind tunnel effect by any means but when testing today in my garage I was able to stand 2 feet away from my son and he couldn't get my face wet with a water spritzer. Of course I have zero evidence that it would make a meaningful difference if an infection-shedding individual were across the table from a non-infected individual, but it seems plausible it could. If you're sick, please do not come to test the effectivity.
-Rob
-visit https://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or my Pinball 2000 H+V Video Sync Combiner kit.
Quoted from PantherCityPins:Some positive news today. At our biweekly COVID update we discussed recent Ivermectin preliminary results which do seem to show some positive benefits. It’s still very early and there will be more studies to come in the next several months but so far it looks promising. Time will tell.
How are the studies with Prozac and Covid prophylaxis looking?
Quoted from MrBally:Florida, Nebraska, South Dakota and Iowa now report covid statistics once a week.
Source: July 25, 2021 Las Vegas Review-Journal /Associated Press.
How convenient. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
California
California to require proof of Covid-19 vaccination or regular testing for all state employees and health care workers
"California will require all state employees and health care workers to provide proof of vaccination status or get regular testing amid a surge.
"All employees will be required to prove they have received the vaccine by showing their vaccination cards or through a verification code.
Florida
Staff at a Florida hospital say they are hearing panic, fear and regret from unvaccinated Covid-19 patients
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/26/us/florida-coronavirus-hospital-surge/index.html
" 'If I get the vaccine now, could I not go on the ventilator?'"
" But by then, they are too late for a vaccine to stop their infection."
"Baptist Medical Center has seen its Covid-19 patient numbers multiplying every day, Daniel said. "We can't open up beds fast enough to meet the demand," she said."
" The surge is overwhelming Baptist Medical Center, where 389 patients are being treated for Covid-19 -- an increase of about 50% from a week ago. Of the new patients, 83 are on ventilators, fighting to survive."
Quoted from alexmogil:Hmm... I'm talking about Allentown Pinfest. I don't want anything at all to do with bikinis at that place.
I'm talking about how people, who are obviously vaccinated as they are not wearing masks, are sitting side-by-side at bars playing video poker, smoking and drinking in a large casino-resort. They are enjoying themselves as they want to. Personally, I went to the pool bar to enjoy the scenery. There are large ceiling fans and misters that kept me cool and maybe even to help spread covid all over the place. I'm vaccinated so I don't give a rat's ass and will not take cover in my home or other Fallout Shelter.
Since the PHoF requires masks, I wore one while I was there taking pictures to update the website.
If you are questioning why you are going to Allentown, maybe it would be best to stay away from the event. No use worrying about your health.
Quoted from tomdrum:Even in my little pinball world I know several anti-vax "I'm not worried" people attending Pinfest. Mask up! 10% chance to get infected from the Delta even if vaccinated.
More than 10%. WAY more than that. Real world data from Israel where almost everyone is vaccinated with both Pfizer shots puts the actual protection of the Pfizer mRNA shots at a paltry 39% against the delta variant. This isn't a surprise when you know that a study in China found that people infected with the Delta variant carry 1,000 times more virus in their noses compared with the original version first identified in Wuhan in 2019.
They keep moving the goal post to keep the percentages high. The 88% number you see quoted lately isn't protection against the india/delta variant, but against being hospitalized if you get it, which is BS. I don't want COVID-19 at all. THAT is the number that matters.
It's clear that the reason Pfizer is pushing for that third shot as a booster is because this is bad news for them, too.
But even THREE Pfizer mRNA shots is still less vaccine than ONE Moderna shot, which overdoses people for no scientifically proven benefit. 3 Pfizer is 90 micrograms total. One Moderna shot is 100 micrograms.
So, basically, keep masking (I double mask, N-95+barrier mask if I'm going to a store or somewhere I'll be for more than 5 minutes) and get that 3rd shot as soon as it's approved. This isn't close to over.
Quoted from alexmogil:I'll be there with a cloth covering and behind a flea market table. Hoping the distance will help. I have a feeling I'm not going to play much. I'm starting to question why I'm going. :/
The distance won't really help as the viral load builds in the indoor air over time. You'll essentially be immersed in particles, all of which can potentially carry the virus, within a couple hours. Unless the flea market is outside, which would be great. Otherwise, definitely a judgment call of your long-term health vs seeing people now you could see more safely next show. You can only not get COVID-19 once.
Quoted from cottonm4:California
"California will require all state employees and health care workers to provide proof of vaccination status or get regular testing amid a surge.
This is stupid because the test option is only weekly, potentially giving a careless employee 6-7 days to spread the disease if they have a false negative or get infected after that week's test. Given the relatively high false negatives of the rapid tests, if they go for the testing option, it should be daily.
I mean, it's moving in the right direction (it's a NO BRAINER that all healthcare workers should be vaccinated), but these baby steps are just dragging this out, and we're gonna end up in another total lockdown if they don't get a better plan in motion.
"These numbers are extraordinary. We are seeing nearly 1,000 new cases in Orange County daily. Those are the numbers we saw at the highest peak last year," Mayor Jerry Demings, a Democrat, said Monday during a news conference. "So a thousand a day is extraordinary. We are now in crisis mode."
Girlfriend and I decided to get some Chinese take-out. We went to the local Great Wall of China franchise.
1) You walk in and get a menu and go back to your car.
2) Call the phone number on the door and make your order. You are told to wait for 10 minutes and then come inside to pick up your order.
3) The few tables and chairs are gone. You are standing at the counter in an empty lobby. The counter is completely blocked by plexiglass from top to bottom and end to end.
4) The guy on the other side of the glass tells you the charge and slides a medium sized tray thru a very clean cut in the plexiglass. You lay your money down and he pulls the tray back in, makes change, and slides the tray back out to you.
5) At the end of the counter, he opens a sliding door and places your sack of food.
6) Then you open a swinging door and remove your food.
This shop was serious. It was sort of complete lockdown. The place is owned by some Asian people who probably lived thru SARS several years ago and they probably figure the safe bet is to not screw around.
Meanwhile, over at Walmart, not a mask to be seen.
Quoted from MrBally:Florida, Nebraska, South Dakota and Iowa now report covid statistics once a week.
Source: July 25, 2021 Las Vegas Review-Journal /Associated Press.
Quoted from Utesichiban:How convenient. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Always is. Until the shit hits the fan.
If they put up a weekly spike next to the daily spikes on the chart it will be a problem that the weekly will stand out like a sore thumb.
This is an interesting story here in Canada where a lot of people have received mixed vaccines (different suppliers of first and second vaccines). The Province of Quebec is offering a third shot for those that received mixed vaccines so people don't have issues when they travel outside of Canada. For example, I don't think the US recognizes AstraZeneca as a valid vaccine:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/quebec-third-dose-covid-vaccine-travel-1.6117954
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Oh my... cringe worthy and pathetic on several levels.
Quoted from Daditude:Speaking of Las Vegas, I am happy to report that most people out here seem to take it very serious. Most people are masked everywhere I go, and all businesses I've seen require masks and enforce the rules.
This is all a great departure from Texas...
I am in Vegas at least 2x a month for work. Something must have changed (mask mandate came back) because I've been down there twice in late June/July and my experience was the exact opposite of what you're describing.
Quoted from Utesichiban:I am in Vegas at least 2x a month for work. Something must have changed (mask mandate came back) because I've been down there twice in late June/July and my experience was the exact opposite of what you're describing.
In Texas, I would guesstimate less than 5% of people wear masks...and that's in large enclosed places for the most part.
There are probably at least 50-60% of people in Vegas that are masked everywhere I go (even outside), and those numbers go up drastically when inside buildings. Most places I have been to have been very strict about mask wearing. I saw some people not allowed on a bus and others kicked out of a place for not wearing masks
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Quoted from PinMonk:But even THREE Pfizer mRNA shots is still less vaccine than ONE Moderna shot, which overdoses people for no scientifically proven benefit. 3 Pfizer is 90 micrograms total. One Moderna shot is 100 micrograms.
The amount of vaccine is not proportional to its efficacy. Vaccine triggers your own cells to produce corona antibodies, and that is not directly proportional to amount of vaccine. And you can't compare different vaccines by just the micrograms.
Quoted from cottonm4:Girlfriend and I decided to get some Chinese take-out. We went to the local Great Wall of China franchise.
1) You walk in and get a menu and go back to your car.
2) Call the phone number on the door and make your order. You are told to wait for 10 minutes and then come inside to pick up your order.
3) The few tables and chairs are gone. You are standing at the counter in an empty lobby. The counter is completely blocked by plexiglass from top to bottom and end to end.
4) The guy on the other side of the glass tells you the charge and slides a medium sized tray thru a very clean cut in the plexiglass. You lay your money down and he pulls the tray back in, makes change, and slides the tray back out to you.
5) At the end of the counter, he opens a sliding door and places your sack of food.
6) Then you open a swinging door and remove your food.
This shop was serious. It was sort of complete lockdown. The place is owned by some Asian people who probably lived thru SARS several years ago and they probably figure the safe bet is to not screw around.
Meanwhile, over at Walmart, not a mask to be seen.
One of the Chinese (independent) places by my old home in Michigan did this last April through August. A couple of blocks away, it was just wear a mask, no "ghetto glass" deal.
Even better were the Tribal Casinos that once they reopened, they refused to close again during the governor's 2nd lock down. It was so refreshing to eat in sit-down restaurants. Oh, and my wife & I never got sick. No vaccine was available back then either.
Quoted from cottonm4:Always is. Until the shit hits the fan.
If they put up a weekly spike next to the daily spikes on the chart it will be a problem that the weekly will stand out like a sore thumb.
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Is the daily total death rate in Florida (God's waiting room) any higher than it was two or three years ago?
Quoted from Utesichiban:I am in Vegas at least 2x a month for work. Something must have changed (mask mandate came back) because I've been down there twice in late June/July and my experience was the exact opposite of what you're describing.
I'm in Vegas daily. Recent observations:
All employees on duty are masked everywhere.
Customer mask observations using my calibrated eyeballs (last calibration at Link Engineering in Plymouth, Michigan this past March):
Grocery stores, 20%
Costco, (Henderson East) 25%
Strip casino floors, 10%
Off-strip large casinos 15%
Off-strip gaming joints (slots in gas stations, bars etc)10%
Workers in smaller offices and warehouses 100%
Workers in large offices 100% while walking around, 0% in their own space.
PHoF 100% of customers are masked...
20210726_152521 (resized).jpgQuoted from PinMonk:This is stupid because the test option is only weekly, potentially giving a careless employee 6-7 days to spread the disease if they have a false negative or get infected after that week's test. Given the relatively high false negatives of the rapid tests, if they go for the testing option, it should be daily.
I mean, it's moving in the right direction (it's a NO BRAINER that all healthcare workers should be vaccinated), but these baby steps are just dragging this out, and we're gonna end up in another total lockdown if they don't get a better plan in motion.
Meanwhile here in NYC only 44% of cops are vaccinated, 55% of fdny and ONLY 60% of health and hospital HEALTHCARE workers have been vaccinated.
But don't worry, Monster Bash star Bill De Blasio just announced healthcare workers that are unvaccinated will be tested WEEKLY.
Quoted from Daditude:In Texas, I would guesstimate less than 5% of people wear masks.
Kansas is right there with you. I'm vaccinated and forget mine half the time now. Most stores are no mask. But a few still mask up. When in Rome...
Quoted from MrBally:Is the daily total death rate in Florida (God's waiting room) any higher than it was two or three years ago?
Why yes it is. Florida had a 15% increase in the death rate in 2020 compared to historical data.
Quoted from MrBally:Is the daily total death rate in Florida (God's waiting room) any higher than it was two or three years ago?
Currently, Florida and Arkansas are both having 10K plus new cases per day in each state. Florida also reported more Covid-19 deaths than any other state over the past week -- a total of 282 over the past week -- the sixth highest per capita rate of deaths in the country. ^^^^^^^Pinball_Gizzard^^^^^^^ has last years data however I think this year will exceed 2020.
London
UK cases continue to decline- 23,511 today. One good thing about the 'delta spike' is that it comes down as quickly as it rose, albeit with the slow exponential tail-off we all know and love now. Until the next time/variant, then...
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
trackandtrace (resized).jpgFederal employees may be required to get vaccinated. I suspect once at least one of the vaccines is fully approved the military will require vaccinations for all service members just like they have done with just about every other vaccine in the past. It sounds like federal employees may not be far behind. Such mandates could increase the amount of fully vaccinated in the country by possibly 2 or 3 million people depending on how many of them have already been vaccinated.
Quoted from PantherCityPins:Why yes it is. Florida had a 15% increase in the death rate in 2020 compared to historical data.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33600247/
Thank you for your prompt reply. I guess these the take-away for me is to stay in Nevada while fully vaccinated.
Will continue to enjoy my life here....
Had a little super spreader event at my place Friday night. Saturday morning one of my guests - an unvaccinated fellow - told us he wasn’t feeling well and tested +
Now we all have it (at least 3 more of us) even though everybody else is vaccinated.
Mild symptoms, tired and cranky and runny nose and coughing. But don’t think for a second the vaccine will prevent you from getting it
Sucks. I was really looking forward to Allentown.
We are moving backwards quickly. I expect mask mandates and another shutdown shortly. The cdc saying breakthrough infections are “rare” is a complete joke. We are batting about .500 Friday night and waiting to see if anybody else gets a hit.
Quoted from PantherCityPins:Why yes it is. Florida had a 15% increase in the death rate in 2020 compared to historical data.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33600247/
I suggest folks spending 20 minutes to truly grasp what's really going on in your state, country and the world... you can slice and dice in so many different ways, plus it's simple and the site is super responsive... relying on the media is a poor choice IMO.
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