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#21900 3 years ago

Here’s another example: upper peninsula of Michigan is VERY rural. It has had very few total cases and total deaths so no big deal right? Detroit is much worse right?

Not exactly. Correct answer is both were bad, but they were bad at different times on the calendar. Also complicating things is better testing and treatments meant they caught and saved people later on that they did not earlier.

UP hospitals could not handle the load. tiny population, tiny hospitals with VERY limited advanced resources. They have some of the worse per capita numbers in the state.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/01/michigans-coronavirus-by-the-numbers-in-2020-up-counties-top-list-of-per-capita-cases-and-deaths.html

#21902 3 years ago

My Uncle died from Covid tismorning. Got it at Church and ended up getting pneumonia that did him in. Fuck Covid!

#21903 3 years ago
Quoted from DakotaMike:

Also, apparently I'm supposed to be getting my 1st Dose of the vaccine on Mar. 15th. I was notified by the VA yesterday. I guess the VA must have their own supply of vaccines separate from what the State gets, and their own rules for who gets it. I'm 34 with no real risk-factors, other than being a bit overweight. When I contracted the virus a couple months ago, I had no severe symptoms either. It doesn't really seem right to me that I'm going to be getting a vaccine does ahead of a lot of people at greater risk, but I'm not going to go out of my way to cancel my appt. I figure the VA hospital must have some sort of plan for distributing their vaccine doses, and I'm not going to question it. Especially, because I don't want any vaccine doses to go to waste, and I don't know how many other Veterans have been vaccinated by the VA all ready in my area.

I got my 2nd dose last week. I'm 68. Like you, I don't know what parameters the VA uses but my State Farm guy, who is 70 and a Vet, told me about the VA as he had just gotten his 2nd dose. I called and asked and I was set up with both appointments. All I was asked about was my last four (SSN) and I had an appt. No muss. No fuss. There several Vets in the waiting area that were not antiques like me.

#21904 3 years ago
Quoted from Phbooms:

My Uncle died from Covid tismorning. Got it at Church and ended up getting pneumonia that did him in. Fuck Covid!

Sorry for your loss, that is terrible.

#21905 3 years ago
Quoted from Phbooms:

My Uncle died from Covid tismorning. Got it at Church and ended up getting pneumonia that did him in. Fuck Covid!

My condolences to you and your family Phbooms

#21906 3 years ago
Quoted from Phbooms:

My Uncle died from Covid tismorning. Got it at Church and ended up getting pneumonia that did him in. Fuck Covid!

Sorry for your loss. I agree, Fuck Covid.

#21907 3 years ago
Quoted from Phbooms:

My Uncle died from Covid tismorning. Got it at Church and ended up getting pneumonia that did him in. Fuck Covid!

Sorry man. Sucks!

#21909 3 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Sorry for your loss, that is terrible.

Quoted from hAbO:

My condolences to you and your family phbooms

Quoted from DaveH:

Sorry for your loss. I agree, Fuck Covid.

Quoted from Gunnut40:

Sorry man. Sucks!

Thanks fellas! We werent close but my Moms torn up about it. Closes to home though with this pandemic shit. Just shows you can be healthy 1 day and dead the next with this virus. Stay safe everybody!

#21911 3 years ago

This is why we can’t have nice things

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/06/idaho-covid-protesters-burn-masks-state-capitol

They used their kids to burn masks as a protest to a mask mandate...which doesn't actually exist in Idaho.

#21912 3 years ago
Quoted from Gunnut40:

I’m not paying 99 cents to read it.

You're seeing a paywall on that article? It didn't display one for me.

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#21913 3 years ago
Quoted from rwmech5:

This isn't a 1 size fits all situation. Densely populated urban centers are where most of the transmissions are, rural areas and smaller cities aren't having near the numbers and R values are under 1. There are ways of containing this with a surgical approach not trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer. Rural areas where cases are low should have less restrictions. Rapid testing for everyone would really help get it under control if you could test 3 times a week before you leave your house, this whole thing would be under control by summer.

Densely populated areas may have more transmissions, but you have to look at per capita transmission rates. I'm still way less likely living in my town of 800,000 people to get Covid than someone in South or North Dakota. When you sort the stats by per capita, it turns out those more rural states are where you are more likely to catch the virus. These are the top states for infection rates in order by how likely you are to catch Covid: N. Dakota, S. Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Iowa, Tennessee, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Nebraska, Kansas, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio...

It turns out Texas, California and Florida may have a lot of people people infected with Covid, but they also have a lot of people. The podunk states and small towns are so dang terrible at washing their hands, wearing masks and social distancing that they have higher infection rates. I spend a lot of time in small towns and did again today, twice on my road trip there were dudes were not wearing masks in bathrooms and not washing their hands after pooping. That's unsanitary and gross. Smalltown dude with poop hands grabs the door handle to leave a bathroom that I have to grab to leave after him. I was wearing a mask and used hand sanitizer right after, but if the next person wasn't, that's an easy situation to pass on Covid.

#21914 3 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

You're seeing a paywall on that article? It didn't display one for me.

Yes, there is a sign-up or pay wall.

#21915 3 years ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

Yes, there is a sign-up or pay wall.

Oh, I guess my ad blockers block that. I'd suggest installing adblocker extensions. It's good practice to do so in general when surfing the internet.

#21916 3 years ago
Quoted from Gunnut40:

I’m not paying 99 cents to read it.

I'll contribute to the gofundme.

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#21918 3 years ago

It really seems so simple; you don't like an establishment's mask policy - go somewhere else.

I imagine there's no shortage of places to eat in Texas where they won't ask you to wear a mask when you go to the can.*

*I've found wearing masks in public restrooms to be an absolute blessing rather than a curse, but maybe I'm just the rare bird who doesn't want to smell the previous customers' beer farts

#21919 3 years ago

Had a fender bender with a city vehicle. They rear ended me. Had to get 2 estimates. Online estimates sound great, but reality is something different, so I had to go in. Gerber Collision, nobody is wearing a mask. Not only that, the f'er doing the estimate is getting right up close to me. Second place, a local collision center, the receptionist is visibly sick. She is congested as fuc*. Nobody is wearing a mask. Third place, a local dealership, they are wearing masks. Most of them are dicknosing it though. The estimator, wearing a mask properly, tells me they have all been told any employee caught not wearing a mask in the presence of a customer is fired immediately, but he says, none of the guys in the back wear a mask. At that moment one of the backroom guys walks by not wearing a mask.

We've been back to wearing N95 masks for awhile and will continue to do so. I'm just ready to get vaccinated. One of my daughters is good to go, but the rest of us are still waiting...

#21920 3 years ago
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#21921 3 years ago

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#21922 3 years ago

Posting this as a reminder again.
To those states not establishing mask mandates or dropping them....a few months from now and history repeating itself we shall see.

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#21923 3 years ago

FYI Russian Intelligence is behind a large vaccine disinformation campaign. If you are reading anti vaccine stuff, check your sources.

“ The State Department's Global Engagement Center, set up to counter propaganda and disinformation campaigns, identified the three outlets, the spokeswoman said.

News Front is controlled by Russia's federal security service, the center found. New Eastern Outlook and Oriental Review are directed and controlled by the Russian foreign intelligence service.

A fourth outlet, Rebel Inside, controlled by the Russian army, was also named by the center but is largely dormant...”

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/08/us-says-russian-backed-outlets-are-spreading-covid-vaccine-disinformation.html

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#21924 3 years ago

The whole "You won't tell me to wear a mask" and all the fights, and protests surrounding it has been the one of most insane things I've ever seen in this country. We must look like a joke to other countries when they see Americans throwing a tantrum over wearing a mask.

#21926 3 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

The whole "You won't tell me to wear a mask" and all the fights, and protests surrounding it has been the one of most insane things I've ever seen in this country. We must look like a joke to other countries when they see Americans throwing a tantrum over wearing a mask.

More insane or more embarrassing is up for debate. It will remain a stain on our society for many years to come.

#21927 3 years ago

That is great news Forceflow. I'll be driving through Wyoming soon on I-80. I cannot wait to go maskless in stores and restaurants as the state has the sparsest population of any of the fifty states.

I remember when I first drove across the state with my Dad in '89. A restaurant had a big sign above the entry doors that stated: Please note we do NOT have a No Smoking section. Patrons are free to smoke anywhere in the restaurant.

This was right after all other states added No Smoking sections to every restaurant.

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#21928 3 years ago

I was in Rosalyn, Washington this weekend (if you remember that show Northern Exposure, it was filmed there, and the 150 year old bar The Brick from the show is there). There is a 110 year old smoked meat place I like to pick up smoked jerkey and landjäeger at. The woman behind the counter, me and another shopper were all wearing masks, when this couple comes in. The woman was wearing a mask and the man pulled it off her, it was weird. The woman behind the counter said they have to wear masks in the tiny store, the owner insists on it and it's the law. She offers to give them masks, but they leave in a huff. The other customer says, at least it wasn't as bad as 2 weeks ago when someone freaked out and called the woman working there a communist over and over. She started laughing and said, "Oh, you were there for that. I just don't get what the big deal is, somehow people made a safety issue into some sort of a rebellion. It's just not." I said, my thoughts exactly, I'm sorry you have to deal with that crap, bought $60 of delicious smoked meat and put $10 in the tip jar.

#21929 3 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

That is great news Forceflow. I'll be driving through Wyoming soon on I-80. I cannot wait to go maskless in stores and restaurants as the state has the sparsest population of any of the fifty states.
I remember when I first drove across the state with my Dad in '89. A restaurant had a big sign above the entry doors that stated: Please note we do NOT have a No Smoking section. Patrons are free to smoke anywhere in the restaurant.
This was right after all other states added No Smoking sections to every restaurant.

We have a restaurant in my town that remained a smoking allowed establishment when many others put out the no smoking sign. And then the state of Kansas shut down all smoking inside of public access buildings and the restaurant had to go No Smoking allowed. I knew the owner and he was one happy camper when the state made the shut down order. He had wanted to be non-smoking for a long time as way more than half of his customers wanted to be able to eat without having to leave the place smelling like a fireplace. But he was afraid of losing business. The state gave him the cover he needed. If anything, his business improved because the non-smokers started coming in droves.

As someone who smoked for 46 years, I can attest that many of those who smoke are some of the most inconsiderate bastards I have ever been around. My dad was one of them. He had a retail store and I used to watch him light up and blow smoke into the non-smoking customer's face without giving it a 2nd thought.

I am not a anti-smoking Nazi. If you want to light up, it does not bother me. I'll even hold the lighter for you. But I understand where the non-smokers are coming from.

It is really butt-ugly.

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However, at the same time the state shut down smoking inside we were also getting a new state sanctioned casino built. And the state, while shutting down smoking everywhere else, has allowed smoking in the casino. But the casino also has a superior air ventilation system.

I'll borrow something from the song Smoke, Smoke, Smoke: But nicotine slaves are all the same. At a pheasant party or a poker game, everything's got to stop while they have that cigarette.

https://genius.com/Tex-williams-smoke-smoke-smoke-that-cigarette-lyrics

#21930 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

However, at the same time the state shut down smoking inside we were also getting a new state sanctioned casino built. And the state, while shutting down smoking everywhere else, has allowed smoking in the casino. But the casino also has a superior air ventilation system.

I think this is pretty common, in my state they made it illegal to smoke in bars and restaurants about 15 years ago, but they've still allowed it in the Native casinos.

#21931 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

We have a restaurant in my town that remained a smoking allowed establishment when many others put out the no smoking sign. And then the state of Kansas shut down all smoking inside of public access buildings and the restaurant had to go No Smoking allowed. I knew the owner and he was one happy camper when the state made the shut down order. He had wanted to be non-smoking for a long time as way more than half of his customers wanted to be able to eat without having to leave the place smelling like a fireplace. But he was afraid of losing business. The state gave him the cover he needed. If anything, his business improved because the non-smokers started coming in droves.
As someone who smoked for 46 years, I can attest that many of those who smoke are some of the most inconsiderate bastards I have ever been around. My dad was one of them. He had a retail store and I used to watch him light up and blow smoke into the non-smoking customer's face without giving it a 2nd thought.
I am not a anti-smoking Nazi. If you want to light up, it does not bother me. I'll even hold the lighter for you. But I understand where the non-smokers are coming from.
It is really butt-ugly.
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However, at the same time the state shut down smoking inside we were also getting a new state sanctioned casino built. And the state, while shutting down smoking everywhere else, has allowed smoking in the casino. But the casino also has a superior air ventilation system.
I'll borrow something from the song Smoke, Smoke, Smoke: But nicotine slaves are all the same. At a pheasant party or a poker game, everything's got to stop while they have that cigarette.
https://genius.com/Tex-williams-smoke-smoke-smoke-that-cigarette-lyrics

I'm a non-smoker, not an anti-smoker. To each their own.

Love the live filmed version, even though there is a slight delay between the sound and the film.

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#21932 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

We have a restaurant in my town that remained a smoking allowed establishment when many others put out the no smoking sign. And then the state of Kansas shut down all smoking inside of public access buildings and the restaurant had to go No Smoking allowed. I knew the owner and he was one happy camper when the state made the shut down order. He had wanted to be non-smoking for a long time as way more than half of his customers wanted to be able to eat without having to leave the place smelling like a fireplace. But he was afraid of losing business. The state gave him the cover he needed. If anything, his business improved because the non-smokers started coming in droves.
As someone who smoked for 46 years, I can attest that many of those who smoke are some of the most inconsiderate bastards I have ever been around. My dad was one of them. He had a retail store and I used to watch him light up and blow smoke into the non-smoking customer's face without giving it a 2nd thought.
I am not a anti-smoking Nazi. If you want to light up, it does not bother me. I'll even hold the lighter for you. But I understand where the non-smokers are coming from.
It is really butt-ugly.
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However, at the same time the state shut down smoking inside we were also getting a new state sanctioned casino built. And the state, while shutting down smoking everywhere else, has allowed smoking in the casino. But the casino also has a superior air ventilation system.
I'll borrow something from the song Smoke, Smoke, Smoke: But nicotine slaves are all the same. At a pheasant party or a poker game, everything's got to stop while they have that cigarette.
https://genius.com/Tex-williams-smoke-smoke-smoke-that-cigarette-lyrics

Loved it when there was still smoking and non-smoking sections in restaurants. Friday night we would pull up and there would be a long line waiting to be seated. I walked up to put our name in and when I told the girl smoking section is fine, we would get seated right away.

#21933 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

However, at the same time the state shut down smoking inside we were also getting a new state sanctioned casino built. And the state, while shutting down smoking everywhere else, has allowed smoking in the casino. But the casino also has a superior air ventilation system.

That was such a bone of contention when that ban went through, and still is for some. The stuff about a "superior air handling system" is just something used to justify keeping smokers in the casino, and I doubt it does much good. If you go into one for any length of time at all, you com out smelling like an ashtray regardless. It pretty much came down to losing revenue to neighboring states that still allowed smoking, and the only way to force a stop is to do it across the board and over all states. I used to smoke too, so I am not innocent, but I really don't know which is worse....sitting net to a smoker at a poker table, or having to run the gauntlet of smokers standing just outside the door at every entrance.

#21934 3 years ago

Back in my day we all smoked no filter pall malls. Even kids and the people who didn’t smoke. We smoked in restaurants, church, school, bed, buses, airplanes, and cars. We cut the seat belts out of our cars and installed extra ashtrays for the kids.

We had brown liquor, beef meat, and fried potatoes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. With a big ashtray in the middle of table. Everyone was much happier and healthier.

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#21935 3 years ago

Well...today Texas opens to 100%. Businesses and individuals everywhere have largely been already opening since the announcement, however.
One of my favorite arcades has announced that they will continue to enforce mask wearing in their facility, and they have received a lot of grief over it. I applaud their stance. I will make sure to go visit them more frequently.

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#21936 3 years ago

Mask requirement still in force here. Had to hire an electrician to fix a problem I couldn’t figure out myself. Hired the guy who I have used before and happens to have a daughter that had a few playdates with my daughter before covid.

He shows up, no mask. Says he doesn’t feel he is a threat to others and the masks interfere with his work. I voice concern and ask if he could at least wear a mask when interacting with me. He tells me his policy is no mask period and if I don’t like it I can just hire someone else.

His tone was confrontational.

Needless to say I hired someone else.

Future playdate, (who knows when and assuming my daughter is still interested), is gonna be awkward.

#21937 3 years ago
Quoted from Oaken:

Mask requirement still in force here. Had to hire an electrician to fix a problem I couldn’t figure out myself. Hired the guy who I have used before and happens to have a daughter that had a few playdates with my daughter before covid.
He shows up, no mask. Says he doesn’t feel he is a threat to others and the masks interfere with his work. I voice concern and ask if he could at least wear a mask when interacting with me. He tells me his policy is no mask period and if I don’t like it I can just hire someone else.
His tone was confrontational.
Needless to say I hired someone else.
Future playdate, (who knows when and assuming my daughter is still interested), is gonna be awkward.

Way to stand your ground! Respect is becoming rare these days. I have alot of friends that show how much they respect my position when i see them and i appreciate them even more for it.

#21938 3 years ago
Quoted from Oaken:

Mask requirement still in force here. Had to hire an electrician to fix a problem I couldn’t figure out myself. Hired the guy who I have used before and happens to have a daughter that had a few playdates with my daughter before covid.
He shows up, no mask. Says he doesn’t feel he is a threat to others and the masks interfere with his work. I voice concern and ask if he could at least wear a mask when interacting with me. He tells me his policy is no mask period and if I don’t like it I can just hire someone else.
His tone was confrontational.
Needless to say I hired someone else.
Future playdate, (who knows when and assuming my daughter is still interested), is gonna be awkward.

You're supposed to take his word that he isn't a threat. That's like someone here saying just cross-ship the pin....I'm a trustworthy fellow. His loss of business then. tenor.giftenor.gif

Like Tyler Durden said "You don't know where I've been Lou!" Maybe he has it and not showing symptoms. Maybe he's asymptomatic. Maybe no one is sick and everything would have been ok.

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As of this week, only 10% of US population has been vaccinated...long way to go. Why take any unnecessary risks after making it this far. Like all things in life...its only temporary.

#21939 3 years ago
Quoted from Oaken:

Mask requirement still in force here. Had to hire an electrician to fix a problem I couldn’t figure out myself. Hired the guy who I have used before and happens to have a daughter that had a few playdates with my daughter before covid.
He shows up, no mask. Says he doesn’t feel he is a threat to others and the masks interfere with his work. I voice concern and ask if he could at least wear a mask when interacting with me. He tells me his policy is no mask period and if I don’t like it I can just hire someone else.
His tone was confrontational.
Needless to say I hired someone else.
Future playdate, (who knows when and assuming my daughter is still interested), is gonna be awkward.

Was he vaccinated?

#21940 3 years ago

https://www.twinfm.com/article/face-mask-disposal-still-a-high-concern

Dumped masks everywhere. Can not fathom 19.5 billion of them laying around.
Humans will never learn....

#21941 3 years ago
Quoted from RonSS:

Was he vaccinated?

He didn’t mention it as part of his argument and I didn’t particularly feel like continuing the conversation at that point.

#21942 3 years ago

Wait until all the temporary plexiglass has to go.

#21943 3 years ago
Quoted from RonSS:

Wait until all the temporary plexiglass has to go.

At least that will be easier to accrue and recycle.

#21946 3 years ago

I can't wait to see a full house at Globe Life Park when the Rangers play against Toronto for their home opener in aboot three weeks.

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#21947 3 years ago

At the last second today I was able to schedule and get a vaccine. Things were looking bleak the same last year. It’s really amazing scientists were able to develop and get this to the public in so shot a time.

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#21948 3 years ago
Quoted from hAbO:

At the last second today I was able to schedule and get a vaccine. Things were looking bleak the same last year. It’s really amazing scientists were able to develop and get this to the public in so shot a time.
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This guy got his vaccine today, too. His story is amazing...

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#21949 3 years ago
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