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#19100 3 years ago

We can go fishing now but you can't go more than 5 k's from home , luckily for me the beach is 3 ks away . You can only go out for 2 hours per day but if you go at 10pm you can come home at 2 a.m.

#19101 3 years ago

Today the first time in months we have had 0 deaths .
Yeah , yeah , I know razor you think we're destroying the country but just let us have this one little milestone .

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#19102 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

Nobody can definitively prove that preventing this from spreading is better than letting it out. Too many out there fail to recognise this is a possibility.

The collective we did discuss this early on, but after seeing how things went down in Italy and New York, all but the most stubborn and/or ignorant dropped the idea. We can't definitely prove it, but having time to develop treatments is likely a large part of why the death rate has dropped as much as it has.

#19103 3 years ago

Without getting political.

I was thinking about possible outcomes from this last turn of events. Everything from the administration gets better quickly to the administration loosing some members. This really does throw everything into a spin.

I really hope that trump experiences a bad enough time with the virus that it Changes his attitude on the severity of the situation. (Like Boris Johnson) hopefully a couple of his followers take it more seriously now too.

#19104 3 years ago

At 60 000 new cases a day, it will take 13 years to infect 300 000 000 people. I don’t see heard immunity ever being a reality unless transmission picks up dramatically, considering antibodies don’t last in your system that long.

I don’t think this will fizzle out by its self either.

Personally I think the next 5 years will see a lot of people pass away from this. Then the virus will become just like a regular flu killing tens of thousands each year. Covid will become endemic

Hopefully when I get it, my immune system will save me, or that medical professionals will have found a way to combat it and if needed that there is a bed in a hospital for me.

#19105 3 years ago

Thanks mate , we can always argue the rights and wrongs of our lockdown later on

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#19106 3 years ago
Quoted from herg:

The collective we did discuss this early on, but after seeing how things went down in Italy and New York, all but the most stubborn and/or ignorant dropped the idea. We can't definitely prove it, but having time to develop treatments is likely a large part of why the death rate has dropped as much as it has.

Also of course natural resistance, the existence of which is the subject of much ridicule by the mighty and powerful "vaccer" industry ... played down, obscured, not talked about openly, seemingly for no other reason than profits/money. Academics whom did not stop saying "the wrong thing", silenced. The fact of the matter is that natural resistance is a thing... some will of course refuse to accept that to the bloody end. Many also don't seem to see that it is quite different than "immunity", either. There is the possibility reducing transmission makes things worse (inhibit population Resistance), than would otherwise be from "natural" transmission (from "business as usual").

Resistance comes from exposure. So it follows that it develops with Time! .... which is also being supported by data across the board as we are Moving Along. It is not all due to treatment. So many cases never seen a hospital, let alone been tested.

I wonder what the line will be , if next season Healthy Young people start to be killed by the "new virulent wave" in large numbers?. Not just anyone... just those people whom never got resistance/infection from exposure the previous year (2020). None of these realistic things would be highlighted though of course, if it comes to pass.... it will be just "New Killer Strain!!" ... *fear* ... "need" a new updated vaccine!! ... perpetuated ... and the money churns on for no good end, and likely saves net zero lives in the grand scheme, if we're lucky. If we're lucky the massive untested pie in the sky vaccine drop, and mix, won't create a whole bunch of Cronenbergs...

Yes, the second half straying to speculation of course, but none the less possible. It is just the "light bulb" principle, demonstrated in various markets throughout the past (built in redundancy), and which can apply to almost any product... including pharma. The thought of which, kinda makes you sick... (no pun intended)

Suppressing definitely made sense at the beginning, when it was still fairly lethal and unknown.

Nature isn't perfect. It's always proven better than "mankind" though... all too often fixing our fu@k ups as well, actual!

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#19107 3 years ago

Update... still no test results, however, my symptoms have cleared and I am feeling back to 100%. My guess is I caught a two to three day bug that went through me and then the wife about a day delayed, no other symptoms, just head ache, stiffness and low grade (100.4) fever. Took Advil for pain, nothing else. Fever broke, head ache stopped, no respiratory symptoms at all, no loss of smell or taste. So although not a doctor, without any test results, I would say I didn’t get COVID, this wasn’t COVID, but if it actually had been COVID, I did the responsible thing- I isolated, distanced, wore the mask, and went and got tested. I will remain isolated for 14 days or until my results (which I believe will be negative) are returned. Was it inconvenient? Yes. Did it waste a bunch of my time? Yes. But faced with same scenario in the future, I will do it all over again, because that is what a responsible, rational, patriotic, people loving, flag hugging, former US veteran, citizen soldier should, would, and did do. Be vigilant, wear the mask, get tested, isolate, distance, and we will win this war.

BH

#19108 3 years ago
Quoted from BazilBLast:

Today the first time in months we have had 0 deaths .
Yeah , yeah , I know razor you think we're destroying the country but just let us have this one little milestone .

You are doing great man! . Words are easy. I would have gone stir crazy going through what you guys have had there, regardless of perspectives.

You're all having a few good milestones there, anyway.

All due respect

I still maintain your premier is a massive c%#@ s&?*er !

...and, what ever happened with your profile screaminr ?

#19109 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

At 60 000 new cases a day, it will take 13 years to infect 300 000 000 people. I don’t see heard immunity ever being a reality unless transmission picks up dramatically, considering antibodies don’t last in your system that long.
I don’t think this will fizzle out by its self either.
Personally I think the next 5 years will see a lot of people pass away from this. Then the virus will become just like a regular flu killing tens of thousands each year. Covid will become endemic
Hopefully when I get it, my immune system will save me, or that medical professionals will have found a way to combat it and if needed that there is a bed in a hospital for me.

Remembering though, not every person contracting cv19 gets tested, far from it.

60,000 Confirmed cases. As many, or multiples more, never identified.

Then also, just with tests, 900,000 tests per day is more than 6.6% positive.

If you apply 6.6% to total population of 350 million that would be around 23 million picking up the virus per day. Still way out though, in the other direction. Testing focus, and already infected, distancing etc. , these kinds of considerations of course cut this back maybe ten fold. Still all not that accurate.

But it can be seen how massive the variance can be by excluding or including things in Estimations. So daily, somewhere between 200,000 and 2Mil , better than 60,000 to plug into the estimation?

If not restricted it would eventually spread around every season. Like the Cold (does). The important thing was keeping it (the modified coronavirus) contained as much as possible while it was initially vicious (as well as population of low resistance), and until it could be seen that it would reduce in mortality, instead of the opposite.

This leads to the point; IF exposure helps dramatically with resistance, year on year ... whether or not masks are effective at preventing spread (which they are) becomes a moot point given the redundancy.

It's out, there is no putting the genie back in the bottle.... or closing pandoras box ... or whatever.

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#19111 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

Without getting political.
I was thinking about possible outcomes from this last turn of events. Everything from the administration gets better quickly to the administration loosing some members. This really does throw everything into a spin.
I really hope that trump experiences a bad enough time with the virus that it Changes his attitude on the severity of the situation. (Like Boris Johnson) hopefully a couple of his followers take it more seriously now too.

I doubt it. He said he learned a lot, then went on a joy ride. This to me shows he has learned nothing.

I hope he proves me wrong. I really do.

#19112 3 years ago
Quoted from Bublehead:

however, my symptoms have cleared and I am feeling back to 100%.

Congrats! Welcome back to the 95%+ of the population that don't get seriously ill from these kind of airborne viruses.

#19113 3 years ago

Like a lot of you guys, I can only handle so much network news - like almost none. I have found it helpful to follow some experts ( I use Twitter to follow them). None are currently affiliated with the government, but all are actually real live actual experts in their field - demon sperm free. The information they share is more technical, focused, and useful to me as explainers. These folks were all early on dispelling the foolishness around unproven therapies, early on mask wear/distancing, sensible about opening protocols, and in general low on the nonsense scale. Here are 3 of my faves.

Eric Topol - MD, researcher, associated with Scripps Research Institute

Tom Frieden - MD, former CDC director (Obama), infectious disease specialist

Scott Gottlieb - MD, former head of FDA (Trump), associated with American Enterprise Institute (conservative think tank), appears on CNBC and posts those clips on his twitter feed

#19114 3 years ago
Quoted from razorsedge:

Nobody can definitively prove that preventing this from spreading is better than letting it out. Too many out there fail to recognise this is a possibility.

What I've learned from all this is that I cannot definitively prove anything that uses science or math as a basis anymore. That frightens me as much as Covid does.

Quoted from razorsedge:

*Ftr: I wear a mask everywhere I'm supposed to. To help prevent spread of highly deadly virus.

Thank you.

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#19115 3 years ago

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

#19116 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Congrats! Welcome back to the 95%+ of the population that don't get seriously ill from these kind of airborne viruses.

I don't think I had COVID, my test results are not back yet. If it was COVID, I dodged a big bullet because I have comorbidity issues of weight and age, and although not totally geriatric, (I'm only a quintagenarian), this has killed people in my same situation. That 4-5% you mention who are the unfortunate among us is still a f-ton (20 million plus) of sick, injured, and maybe debilitated people that we have to now deal with as a country. We are not even sure of the long term affects yet, let alone the continued burden on the health care industry as the long term affects start to pile up. It's in everyones best interest to do what we can to limit and stop the virus, no matter what side of the isle you are from. The overall cost of this has to be shouldered by us all, so why don't we all do what we can to reduce the impact on the general populace? Seems to be a no brainer that the more we limit infections and reduce the spread, the more money we are saving down the road, no matter the ecconomic immediate costs. The long term cost of not limiting the spread may (because we just don't know) cost us WAY more in the future, and the minnor ecconomic hiccup due to shutdowns and distancing may be worth it in the end. We must start thinking like Americans again and not as one side against the other, because ultimately we are ALL American and we ALL need to live together in harmony and peace in America, because the damn virus doesn't give a damn about WHO you voted for, what country it came from or what your political affiliation is. You're just a nice soft pink host to it, ready to knock you on your ass.

#19117 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

Plus some of her deputies.

Also, I don’t think we have heard a peep from Chris Christie since he checked into the hospital.

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#19118 3 years ago

Test results are in, NOT COVID. So I guess I should buy a JJP GNR to celebrate? Nah... waiting for next CGC title actually.

#19119 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

Two of her deputies too.

And Kellyann Conway’s teenage daughter.

And yet there is still no plan for rigorous testing/quarantine/contact tracing for those exposed.

#19120 3 years ago

I think I will sit down and load up my Jaws DVD. It seems appropriate

Don't yell "SHARK" !


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We might be able to save August.


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The moment of truth. Living vicariously.


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My kid was on that beach, too.


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You are going to need a bigger boat.


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#19121 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

Sounds to me like the chickens are finally coming home to roost.

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#19122 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

These people are superspreaders!

#19123 3 years ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

And now Kayleigh McEnany has tested positive. The hits just keep on coming.

Wow. I heard somebody's grandmother tested positive too, but with no symptoms. We're doomed!

Quoted from o-din:

The Prez is a little overweight, but basically a strong, active, physical specimen. He should be OK in a few days.

Sure enough, they are sending him home today.

#19124 3 years ago

The biggest elephant in the room is a lot of hard working people who made healthy lifestyle choices are sacrificing everything they have worked for and losing everything to save people, most of whom have health problems brought on by their own lack of taking care of themselves and choices they have made. The statistics show that. I know some of you don't want to see it that way and it may sound a little morbid, but it is a fact.

Masks sure enough helped slow the spread, but how long can you keep these unhealthy people from getting it anyway? Sure, masks also kept the healthcare system from getting overwhelmed, but who is going to help those that sacrificed everything get back to where they were?

I guess another question is out of all the people in the president's circle exposed and testing positive, who and how many actually get sick? Seems most of them look pretty healthy to start with. If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

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#19125 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

The biggest elephant in the room is a lot of hard working people who made healthy lifestyle choices are sacrificing everything they have worked for and losing everything to save people, most of whom have health problem brought on by their own lack of taking care of themselves and choices they have made. The statistics show that. I know some of you don't want to see it that way and it may sound a little morbid, but it is a fact.
Masks sure enough helped slow the spread, but how long can you keep these unhealthy people from getting it anyway? Sure, masks also kept the healthcare system from getting overwhelmed, but who is going to help those that sacrificed everything get back to where they were?
I guess another question is out of all the people in the president's circle exposed and testing positive, who and how many actually get sick? Seems most of them look pretty healthy to start with. If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

Not all of us have access to experimental drugs and a fleet of top doctors who exclusively care for our well being.

#19126 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

Sounds to me like the chickens are finally coming home to roost.[quoted image]

The latest spin comes from a Trump campaign manager today who said that Trump now has “personal experience” battling COVID that Biden doesn’t have.

#19127 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I guess another question is out of all the people in the president's circle exposed and testing positive, who and how many actually get sick? Seems most of them look pretty healthy to start with. If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

Where were you in March and April when we were discussing this stuff ad naseum? It's too bad you sat it out, you'd be in a much more educated position currently. I mean, you are still saying "it's just a flu!" like you emerged from a 7 month time capsule.

The real problem is it's going to be almost impossible to tell how many people get seriously sick and die because of the superspreader event / campaign of the past 9 days. This shouldn't surprise anybody given the lack of responsible behavior on display, but there's been almost zero serious contact tracing and once again everybody is on their own. And the "president's circle" at this point is probably into the 100s if you look at the Saturday Superspreader event and every day after.

Chris Christie and the President both had to check into the hospital, so they "got sick" by any definition. But outside of the bold names, it's going to be almost impossible to trace. The superspreader event itself...the Secret Service...the fundraisers for old billionaires...the debate...the minnesota rally. Hundreds of people have been directly exposed and then you extrapolate from there.

This is a serious cluster and it's not being traced properly, so we'll never really know O-din. Thanks for asking this important question though, hopefully you have a better understanding now of what is going on.

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#19128 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

He was admitted to the hospital with multiple troubling symptoms (high fever and low oxygen saturation that required supplemental oxygen) and received a cocktail of 3 treatments (Remdesivir, an experimental antibody treatment from Regeneron and the steroid dexamethasone) from a panel of 13+ doctors.

It's not like he sat back at home, and recuperated with Tylenol and a bowl of warm chicken soup.

Let's talk after October 15th.

#19129 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

The biggest elephant in the room is a lot of hard working people who made healthy lifestyle choices are sacrificing everything they have worked for and losing everything to save people, most of whom have health problem brought on by their own lack of taking care of themselves and choices they have made. The statistics show that. I know some of you don't want to see it that way and it may sound a little morbid, but it is a fact

Please provide your supporting evidence for this fact.

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#19130 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

If nothing else it tells me that if you come down with a serious case (as I think most would define where the President stood on Friday morning) it's good to receive treatment from the Walter Reed presidential medicine team. The US death rate would be significantly improved if it were feasible for everyone to have access to that level of care.

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#19131 3 years ago

Super news today if you have at your fingertips a helicopter, in-house 24/7 concierge doctor, access to testing 24/7, immediate admission to a world class medical facility, a medical suite fully staffed with it's own private ICU empty and waiting on you, a team of 12 doctors, immediate access to any drug and inside information - even experimental - (notably did not include HCQ or MyPillow pills, lol - those are good for us though), well then you shouldn't be worried so much about Covid. It's NO BIG DEAL!

However, if you are a regular guy like most of us are here - I do not think anything has changed for us over the last week. Keep your chin up and mask on!

#19132 3 years ago
Quoted from Oaken:

Not all of us have access to experimental drugs and a fleet of top doctors who exclusively care for our well being.

True. Again, just thinking. Also thinking how early on it was made clear that by the constitution, and it was made clear by the president, that it was up to each state's governor to handle this for their own states. In Ca. ours took some of the most drastic steps, and in Fla. it was almost the complete opposite. Although he made suggestions, he pretty much let them handle it their own way. If your governor did not do daily briefings like ours did, I don't know what to tell you.

His job at the executive level was to secure the country from the outside, which he did by grounding the planes. For some I guess, it should have happened sooner. But it was a big step. Also billions and trillions of dollars for relief and operation warp speed, and producing ventilators and protective gear. Perhaps there were still shortages. And the fine balance of saving lives while not destroying others. Tough job it must be is all I can say.

Anyway, I'm just rambling but don't understand how some people fail to see what he actually did do as opposed to what he did not do. He never was a politician to begin with. I always took his manners with a grain of salt, and could tell when he was BS-ing. I guess many couldn't. The mask thing- whatever. Seems you can't force people to wear them correctly anyway. And that goes for many members of either party. These gatherings were pretty careless, but so are the 100s of protests that have gone on this whole time. As said earlier, Americans are going to do what they want to do.

God speed on his and anybody else's recovery.

Quoted from RTR:

Please provide your supporting evidence for this fact.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

#19133 3 years ago

Funny how everyone that used to say “this virus doesn’t care who you are”, are now claiming it’s the Presidents medical team that is getting him through

#19134 3 years ago
Quoted from RTR:

Please provide your supporting evidence for this fact.

-In case my prior post gets selectively deleted-

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

#19135 3 years ago

Just as I expected.

The man knows no shame.

"Trump irresponsibly continues downplaying Covid-19 as he tweets he will leave the hospital"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics/donald-trump-covid-condition-walter-reed/index.html

"Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life," Trump wrote, even as his doctors warned he wasn't yet "out of the woods." The building he's returning to has become a center for viral contagion -- in part because of disregard for mitigation measures.

The message was jarring not only because it was irresponsible but that it came from a current coronavirus patient who has experienced serious symptoms of the disease and whose recovery has included experimental treatments unavailable to most Americans.

Trump said a day earlier he now "understood" the virus which has killed more than 200,000 Americans. But his message Monday seemed more in the line with his longstanding practice of denying the pandemic's severity and downplaying its risks.
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"How Trump's Covid-19 treatment is far different from what most American patients get"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/health/donald-trump-hospital-treatment/index.html

As Trump gets excellent medial care and pops offs about how COVID is nothing big, the rest of us will get less medical care but have the same level of risk if we contract COVID.

I do not expect him to be wearing any mask when he get s back to the WH.

Pathetic leadership, IMO.

#19136 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

The biggest elephant in the room is a lot of hard working people who made healthy lifestyle choices are sacrificing everything they have worked for and losing everything to save people, most of whom have health problem brought on by their own lack of taking care of themselves and choices they have made. The statistics show that.

That is a Hell of a big elephant. I had no idea ageing was a result of a lack of self care, let alone a choice...

From now on, no more letting old people have my seat. Why should I suffer for their bad choices?

#19137 3 years ago

I know what CrazyLevi secret Santa is getting him.

A “Trump Defeats Covid” Commemorative Coin.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3628383001

#19138 3 years ago
Quoted from pinmeds:

That is a Hell of a big elephant. I had no idea ageing was a result of a lack of self care, let alone a choice...

From now on, no more letting old people have my seat. Why should I suffer for their bad choices?

It's a well known, documented fact that obesity and hypertension are the major contributors to serious complications from this virus including death. Obesity mainly comes from eating too much and lack of activity. Of course, I guess, some people can't control themselves. Sure there are other contributing factors, but it shouldn't be that hard to eat right or take a regular walk if your feet work. I'm going to go a little further and say in almost every instance when they show someone on the news that had serious covid or died, most of the time it is an obese person. That I have seen.

You can feel safe letting my 98 year old mother who was never overweight, never drank or smoked, and was always active, and just survived an outbreak in the senior center where she is at that infected almost half the people, but she never tested positive, have your seat. Thank you very much. I'm pretty sure she won't have anything to give you and will have no problem fighting off whatever you are carrying around.

#19139 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

“The prez” got a cocktail of meds that maybe only 5-10 people in the world got. He has team of doctors and a floor to his own in the hospital - plus at the Whitehouse there’s a clinic to monitor him 24/7. He beet it only because he very fortunate to be “the Prez’. The average Joe or MAGA supporter won’t see those drugs this year. Probably by this time next year. He tweets don’t be afraid of COVID but we don’t have the resources he has. He doesn’t have to worry but everyone else still does.

#19140 3 years ago
Quoted from DNO:

Funny how everyone that used to say “this virus doesn’t care who you are”, are now claiming it’s the Presidents medical team that is getting him through

Well he DID get sick which was kinda the whole point of the virus don’t care.

As far as survival, I don’t see how that is mutually exclusive. Virus don’t care. Society does.

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#19141 3 years ago
Quoted from DNO:

Funny how everyone that used to say “this virus doesn’t care who you are”, are now claiming it’s the Presidents medical team that is getting him through

He's not out of the woods yet?

A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline:

6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless

7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19

7/10: Says he’s improving

7/15: Says his doctors seem happy

7/27: Says he’s really getting better

7/30: Dies

Pretty sure nobody gets over this virus in 3 days...even with extraordinary medical care and attention.

#19142 3 years ago
Quoted from pinmeds:

That is a Hell of a big elephant. I had no idea ageing was a result of a lack of self care, let alone a choice...
From now on, no more letting old people have my seat. Why should I suffer for their bad choices?

Whoever downvoted this, it was sarcasm btw..

#19144 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I guess another question is out of all the people in the president's circle exposed and testing positive, who and how many actually get sick? Seems most of them look pretty healthy to start with. If a guy as old as the prez and with his waistline can beat this in a few short days with the stress he was under, that says a lot right there.

Right, because the president who is tested daily and detected he had covid as early as possible to begin treatment, injected with experimental drugs, had a fleet of dedicated doctors at his disposal, and now returning “home” which just so happens to have a full on medical facility plus whatever additions they’ve made over the past few days, is really a case study for every regular joe in this country. Yep, really says a lot.

#19145 3 years ago

His breathing appeared labored after going up those few steps tonight. That may simply be because he's fat and old though?

#19146 3 years ago
Quoted from hAbO:

He tweets don’t be afraid of COVID but we don’t have the resources he has. He doesn’t have to worry but everyone else still does.

Can I say "Judas Goat" ?

#19147 3 years ago
Quoted from RTR:

Like a lot of you guys, I can only handle so much network news - like almost none. I have found it helpful to follow some experts ( I use Twitter to follow them). None are currently affiliated with the government, but all are actually real live actual experts in their field - demon sperm free. The information they share is more technical, focused, and useful to me as explainers. These folks were all early on dispelling the foolishness around unproven therapies, early on mask wear/distancing, sensible about opening protocols, and in general low on the nonsense scale. Here are 3 of my faves.
Eric Topol - MD, researcher, associated with Scripps Research Institute
Tom Frieden - MD, former CDC director (Obama), infectious disease specialist
Scott Gottlieb - MD, former head of FDA (Trump), associated with American Enterprise Institute (conservative think tank), appears on CNBC and posts those clips on his twitter feed

I love Twitter for this reason. I’d add Dr. Linsey Marr(@linseymarr), Dr. Michael Mina (@michaelmina_lab) and Dr. Joseph Allen (@j_g_allen). They’re all experts in airborne diseases and/or epidemiologists.

#19148 3 years ago
Quoted from frisbez:

He's not out of the woods yet?
A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline:
6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies
Pretty sure nobody gets over this virus in 3 days...even with extraordinary medical care and attention.

He is still tweeting though.

#19149 3 years ago

Man if Odin is mad about one guy appearing in public for 2 seconds with his nose sticking out of his mask he REALLY shouldn’t watch the news today!

Yikes!

Since Odin is a “both sides” guy now I would hope a Stinging rebuke about what happened in Washington today!

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