We've only got 136 deaths in Orange County to date. Time to open Angel Stadium back up and let's party! Let's play baseball.
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I just wanted to add besides Angel Stadium, Disneyland reopening would be a great test for how immune humans are now to this shit.
On a more serious note, the Nascar race at Bristol last Sunday was very fulfilling. Even though I don't own season tickets.
Quoted from screaminr:Lol . To be fair , that was the first day of talk of a lockdown and I buy 30 can blocks of beer . I kept going back day after day and buying more beer vodka and cask wine - WTF I don't even drink wine ! I was afraid we were going to go into stage 4 Lockdown like New Zealand but luckily the government knew that they couldn't keep everyone at home with no grog , so they made the bottle shops / liquor stores an essential service
I shouldn't drink so much
We could still buy Beer and Wine at level 4, They sell it in our Supermarkets 
Spirits you have to buy from a bottle store.
Last week 2x 24 pack of Beer was $60 
Mojave Desert, NV
Quoted from Daditude:One of my favorite local arcades is opening back up...but I'm a bit ambivalent about it with the uptick in cases and deaths in the area.
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Las Vegas opened up their casinos on Thursday, so I made a trip over to New York New York. Their arcade had fewer pinball machines than before- only five of them. And the 2nd and 4th machines in the row had black printed signs stuck on them indicating that they were disabled for play to accommodate social distancing. Whaa??! I can’t play Jurassic Park?
FE8852EA-0D59-4C62-AF12-7CEB9BCA16AB (resized).jpegQuoted from CrazyLevi:Some good news out of NYC - zero COVID deaths yesterday. First time since March.
The public health decisions we made and enforced worked. If they had happened here - and everywhere - a couple weeks earlier I wonder if this would all be over by now.
I've been biting my tongue over the last few hours, but with more deaths in NYC total over Italy, I guess that is a win.
Quoted from cdnpinbacon:Time we home brewed Dirk. Let’s do it! Surely enough info from fellow pinside
It's been a while but never had homebrew that tasted good. Maybe it's different now?
I wish i liked wine. My dad has been making it for 30 years. Great bang for the buck. $40 box makes like 25 one litre bottles. Could get drunk for a month for $40. Lol.
I saw a notification today that The Lancet has retracted the article that found increased harm to COVID patients on Hydroxychloroquine. The retraction stated that The Lancet was made aware of some possible issues with the data and asked the researchers to provide the raw data for review. The statisical analysis company, Surgisphere, apparently refused, citing client confidentiality. This caused The Lancet to retract the article.
The whole thing is very odd.
In other news, the first randomized, placebo controlled double blinded trial on Hydroxychloroquine as COVID prophylaxis was published in the New England journal and found no benefit. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638?query=featured_home#.XtgSPYeCao0.twitter
Alcona, ON
Quoted from dirkdiggler:It's been a while but never had homebrew that tasted good. Maybe it's different now?
I wish i liked wine. My dad has been making it for 30 years. Great bang for the buck. $40 box makes like 25 one litre bottles. Could get drunk for a month for $40. Lol.
Quoted from dirkdiggler:It's been a while but never had homebrew that tasted good. Maybe it's different now?
I did Home Brew for years , it would take me about 3 hours a week and I put it in 375 ml bottles . I would get almost 3 slabs for $13 .
In the end I couldn't be stuffed but the beer itself tasted really nice .
IMG_20200606_013956 (resized).jpgmaking a song around those lyrics posted by sad sack.. Thanks! We are just machines...and Sentient AI ..repeated in a drone voice with screaming metal in the background! Right on!
Quoted from dirkdiggler:It's been a while but never had homebrew that tasted good. Maybe it's different now?
I wish i liked wine. My dad has been making it for 30 years. Great bang for the buck. $40 box makes like 25 one litre bottles. Could get drunk for a month for $40. Lol.
What this rusty town is sayin we get off our asses and just Mabey we save 50%? have no idea
Quoted from RTR:Says one doctor at one hospital to a local Fox News affiliate after no science conducted.
It came from an infectious disease doc at UPMC which is a highly reputable medical center and system. However, it is just opinion based on recent observations only.
I dont believe it because it isn't based on what I'm seeing on my area or the trends I'm reading about nationwide. I didn't discount because it came from FOX News, though. Rather because it is an anecdotal opinion of a handful of docs in a select geographical area and not based on any hard scientific facts yet.
More possible good news. People just need to be patient and continue taking precautions.
Whether this vaccine, another, or emerging treatments, some will pan out and I believe sooner then later.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/investing/astrazeneca-vaccine-coronavirus/index.html
I think the COVID hospitalizations (i.e. severe cases) is the number to watch as far as whether the virus and severity is trending down. It is a more cut and dry statistic with less room for interpretation or skewing. The numbers do not appear to be trending down:
Quoted from DCFAN:I think the COVID hospitalizations (i.e. severe cases) is the number to watch as far as whether the virus and severity is trending down. It is a more cut and dry statistic with less room for interpretation or skewing. The numbers do not appear to be trending down:
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html
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I posted this yesterday, but Iran's graph is a good indicator of what other countries like the USA may be in for as they were one of the first to have a major outbreak after China.
Their first peak was on March 30th. They bent the curve and had their lowest day on May 2. But it's been going back up ever since and now the new peak is even higher than the first one.
Quoted from dirkdiggler:It's been a while but never had homebrew that tasted good. Maybe it's different now?
I wish i liked wine. My dad has been making it for 30 years. Great bang for the buck. $40 box makes like 25 one litre bottles. Could get drunk for a month for $40. Lol.
A couple friends of mine have made very good (craft beer quality) home brew. They were aiming for quality and got it so it can be done. Neither do it anymore though, I think it was just too much of a hassle getting it all right with ingredients, cleaning and temperature particularly with so many good beers to try.
As far as good news, that will be when there are no more new infections worldwide for a week or so. Then I will believe it's over or close to it.
I'm not going to be overly pessimistic or optimistic in regards to this virus, just a realist. And reality looks to be this is far from over. And the worst may still be yet to come. Or it may not. Nobody has shown any facts to convince me which direction this is heading except there are still 1000s of new infections throughout the world every day.
Take Brazil for example. They had over 1300 deaths just on Thursday. And more new reported cases worldwide than any other day since this started.
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Quoted from o-din:I posted this yesterday, but Iran's graph is a good indicator of what other countries like the USA may be in for as they were one of the first to have a major outbreak after China.
Their first peak was on March 30th. They bent the curve and had their lowest day on May 2. But it's been going back up ever since and now the new peak is even higher than the first one.
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This seems reaonable article about a possible second wave
Quoted from Utesichiban:It came from an infectious disease doc at UPMC which is a highly reputable medical center and system. However, it is just opinion based on recent observations only.
I dont believe it because it isn't based on what I'm seeing on my area or the trends I'm reading about nationwide. I didn't discount because it came from FOX News, though. Rather because it is an anecdotal opinion of a handful of docs in a select geographical area and not based on any hard scientific facts yet.
I said the same thing, just more succinctly.
Yeah, barcades and pinball bars are open again near me. But I'm not ready to mingle in a crowd yet. Figure I'll adopt a "wait and see" approach. Let some others take on that risk, and re-visit the situation in a few weeks after we see how the infection rate is doing.
It's tough though, because I really miss location pinball!
The past week I saw very few covid news stories. Millions in close contact in many Cities across the Nation. Today the News picked back up where they left off with dozens of stories.
Only around here nobody cares anymore, everyone I speak with said they are "Over it".
Many who first took it serious now think it was a scam on a mass scale to cover up a stealth wealth re-distribution.
I guess time will tell.
Quoted from DirtyDeeds:This seems reaonable article about a possible second wave
It's happening there. They started opening back up, and now their cases are booming again. They haven't said whether it's mutated again or not.
And all this talk about a vaccine makes me wonder besides the fact that if it is even possible, will it be effective on mutated strains that could make the second or third wave even more deadly by the time they get one made.
I just can't wear the rose colored glasses that say this is winding down when the data shows otherwise. I'm not really worried about getting it myself, but am doing my part so I don't spread it, and like I mentioned earlier it did show up in the senior center where mom is at a few days ago.
Watching all the protests the last week, although warranted, seems pretty crazy in the middle of a 100 year pandemic. That's the thing though, 100 years is a long time to forget any lessons learned.
Quoted from phil-lee:The past week I saw very few covid news stories. Millions in close contact in many Cities across the Nation. Today the News picked back up where they left off with dozens of stories.
Only around here nobody cares anymore, everyone I speak with said they are "Over it".
Many who first took it serious now think it was a scam on a mass scale to cover up a stealth wealth re-distribution.
I guess time will tell.
After traveling extensively around the Midwest the last 6 weeks, I can say that the overwhelming majority of people I’ve talked to have said the same exact thing. The restaurants were all pretty busy and people, like you said, are just flat over it. The only place were the majority of people were wearing masks was northern Illinois. Most places you’d be hard pressed to find anyone wearing a mask, other than employees. I think of all the people I talked to, I was the only one who knew someone who died from the virus.
Looks like Vegas is up and running again with no social distancing and many not wearing masks in Casinos. I've seen similar in several local businesses.
One difference is I'm not seeing hardly any elderly people or other not so healthy looking human specimens out and about. Hard to spread an illness if all the susceptible or otherwise ill people stay home. But this virus still has legs, so it can find a way.
Quoted from screaminr:I did Home Brew for years , it would take me about 3 hours a week and I put it in 375 ml bottles . I would get almost 3 slabs for $13 .
In the end I couldn't be stuffed but the beer itself tasted really nice .
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I am keen to give Spirits ago 
Can you make your own Spirits in Aus or is it illegal?
Also no new Covid-19 cases in NZ for 15 days straight.
Quoted from o-din:Looks like Vegas is up and running again with no social distancing and many not wearing masks in Casinos. I've seen similar in several local businesses.
One difference is I'm not seeing hardly any elderly people or other not so healthy looking human specimens out and about. Hard to spread an illness if all the susceptible or otherwise ill people stay home. But this virus still has legs, so it can find a way.
Screenshot_20200604-003442~2 (resized).pngQuoted from CrazyLevi:Vegas without old people?!
Sounds like Logan’s Run.
Well, I saw one old lady at one of the protests on the news today and she was pretty feisty.
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The eagle was actually keyed in on getting that last roll of tp.
I drove from Salt Lake City to San Francisco to pickup a pin yesterday and came back today. I gotta cheap room in Sacramento to crash a few hours . No one in the motel seemed like they had ever heard of covid. It was pretty busy...i drove a couple hundred miles and walked my dog in some really beautiful open space in Redwood City area. Everyone in that area was wearing a mask. The trails were all set up one direction and everyone seemed very conscious of covid..
There seems to be not only a political divide on corona virus attitudes but an income divide as well. Or maybe it has to do with basic education and belief in science vs. Magical thinking and divine intervention.
I don't know, but traffic is back as well up there....
Quoted from Jaybird815:After traveling extensively around the Midwest the last 6 weeks, I can say that the overwhelming majority of people I’ve talked to have said the same exact thing. The restaurants were all pretty busy and people, like you said, are just flat over it. The only place were the majority of people were wearing masks was northern Illinois. Most places you’d be hard pressed to find anyone wearing a mask, other than employees. I think of all the people I talked to, I was the only one who knew someone who died from the virus.
Yeah. Cases? Everyone looks at the death rate, cases just means someone tested positive, if asymptomatic means nothing.
General Public now well-versed in covid and after weighing the ample evidence finds it lacking.
Majority of fatalities came from individuals with co-morbidities from 3 to 99 who may have or were likely to have died anyway.
Younger people have decided the risk is worth it to keep jobs, enlist their children in daycare. Instead of Black Tuesday they embrace Green Wednesday to make money to survive.
A complete 360 save a few.
Quoted from phil-lee:Yeah. Cases? Everyone looks at the death rate, cases just means someone tested positive, if asymptomatic means nothing.
General Public now well-versed in covid and after weighing the ample evidence finds it lacking.
Majority of fatalities came from individuals with co-morbidities from 3 to 99 who may have or were likely to have died anyway.
Younger people have decided the risk is worth it to keep jobs, enlist their children in daycare. Instead of Black Tuesday they embrace Green Wednesday to make money to survive.
A complete 360 save a few.
We all want to reopen. It's about what that means. If you can return to work and feel comfortable doing so, go ahead. I would ask that you also wear a mask, and put some pressure on your employers to provide safe working conditions.
If you don't need to work from a specific physical location, work from home. Would you really rather stare at your coworkers for 40 hours a week instead of seeing your friends and family?
If you need to go out, have a plan, wear a mask, get in and get out. Anyone that can access pinside can also place online orders for pickup/delivery. Why not do that?
If you want to meet for beers with a buddy, please try to do so outside (should be kind of easy now, right)? Also consider the exposure you've had recently. Do you want to be guy that returned to work AND is having drinks with buddies in close quarters? Probably not, at least if you care about your buddies.
Go ahead and return to work, but be considerate and limit your exposure to the best of your ability elsewhere.
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Quoted from phil-lee:Yeah. Cases? Everyone looks at the death rate, cases just means someone tested positive, if asymptomatic means nothing.
General Public now well-versed in covid and after weighing the ample evidence finds it lacking.
Majority of fatalities came from individuals with co-morbidities from 3 to 99 who may have or were likely to have died anyway.
Younger people have decided the risk is worth it to keep jobs, enlist their children in daycare. Instead of Black Tuesday they embrace Green Wednesday to make money to survive.
A complete 360 save a few.
Besides a pandemic being something that's not just about individual harm or not, I think even individuals who think 'what the heck, I probably won't die of this covid-thing anyway' have to think twice about the consequences other that death. I hear more and more stories about people (some first hand, most second hand) who suffer major trouble weeks or months after having had the virus. Not all: some people are lucky and hardly have any complaints, but others, healthy and young people that is, suffer quite a lot and there's a chance that you won't fully recover.
It's not just about the choice of going to work or not, it's also about the behavior one has. A lot can be done, it's not a choice between staying at home 100% of the time or living life like nothing is the matter. Keeping distance, if socializing: outside instead of indoors, washing hands, when shopping: not too long and alone instead of with the whole family, wearing a mask, etc.
Is that fun? No not really. And it does do harm to a lot of people working in bars, restaurants, public transport, etc. I don't think though that the virus is over and people can just as well pick up their normal life the way they used to.
I'm back to work as a teacher and I really have to take care that instead of loosening my guard because I'm already getting in contact with way more people (students and other teachers) I should be more careful towards other people for the chance I get infected has increased because of the extra contacts. Somehow loosening my guard feels 'better'(/easier?) and my mind has to correct me from doing so.
Maryland Corona-virus Report 6/6
Sorta went back to work this week. Looks like I will be working half time every other week but be paid for 40 hours per week. It sucks that I can't work more than 40 and get paid for more than 40 like usual, but I'll take the time off.
Government jobs here are not looking to go back full time for months. I would expect to be working (as a government contractor) about 50% of the time starting in July. Most of the agencies around here are not expecting to have everyone back at work until... September.
I am under the impression that my paycheck is the least likely to be effected by COVID, but I am and will be one of the last one's back at full time work. Federal government agencies are already in maximum telework mode, and those of us that cannot telework for a variety of reasons (it will never happen) will be among the last back to work. On top of that, over 80% of the government people I support just happen to be self identified and "high risk" and excused from work until the "all clear" is given. The end result is that even when I'm back at work, there will be little for me to do. On top of everything the hot zone South of NYC on the Eastern Seaboard is in my backyard with almost 2% infected in the county where i work. In May I did self study for the COMPTIA A+, NETWORK+, and SECURITY+. I'm working on the Cyber Security Analyst + (CySA+) and this month and CASP next month. They are lower than my existing certifications (CISSP, CSSP, CISM, PMP, etc.) but will show the government and my employer that I am making the most of my time. There are tons of free training materials available on Linkedin Learning (if your company pays for it) and COMPTIA is allowing remote proctored tests via webcam for the duration of the pandemic.
Everyone around here wears masks all the time outside of their immediate neighborhood. They opened outdoor dining last week and that's been big, but traffic everywhere is severely depressed. The kids love the inflatable pool on the deck right now but I don't know how much longer it will last.
Stay safe everyone.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:I am keen to give Spirits ago
Can you make your own Spirits in Aus or is it illegal?
Also no new Covid-19 cases in NZ for 15 days straight.
You can make your own wine , beer , spirits in Victoria , ( probably Australia ) except you can't sell it .
Our Governor has daily TV briefings, telling us to wear a mask, social distance, keep a journal for contact tracing etc. Our tourist city, Newport RI requires you to wear a mask everywhere, even outside or $100 fine. You can't even have over 10 people attend a funeral.
Here is our Governor last night at a "protest", past curfew. Guess the rules don't apply to all.
FB_IMG_1591447429815.jpgQuoted from CrazyLevi:Vegas without old people?!
Sounds like Logan’s Run.
Logan’s Run is my favorite sci-fi film. There is no sanctuary!
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:Logan’s Run is my favorite sci-fi film. There is no sanctuary!
With a soundtrack like this what is not to love?
Seriously, give it 5 minutes.
If they played that music outside it would keep people home
Quoted from Irishbastard:Our Governor has daily TV briefings, telling us to wear a mask, social distance, keep a journal for contact tracing etc. Our tourist city, Newport RI requires you to wear a mask everywhere, even outside or $100 fine. You can't even have over 10 people attend a funeral.
Here is our Governor last night at a "protest", past curfew. Guess the rules don't apply to all.
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I literally am not allowed to comment about Gov. Gina here but I think that picture speaks 1,000 words about; how she’s handled this, how she governs and how if there’s a second wave, Providence will look like Boston’s first wave.
Villejuif
By 1 June Covid-19 had prompted more than 42,700 academic papers and 3,100 clinical trials...
https://researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-world-2020-6-covid-19-publications-mirror-virus-s-spread-across-world/
... unfortunately, not all of these papers are good.
We are witnessing a diarrhea of hastily written papers with questionable protocols and lack of controls.
Even worse are some "preprints" published in open archives before peer review.
No wonder this is confusing.
Quoted from Irishbastard:Our Governor has daily TV briefings, telling us to wear a mask, social distance, keep a journal for contact tracing etc. Our tourist city, Newport RI requires you to wear a mask everywhere, even outside or $100 fine. You can't even have over 10 people attend a funeral.
Here is our Governor last night at a "protest", past curfew. Guess the rules don't apply to all.
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As George Carlin said , we're not in their club.
Plus wed need the magic word 
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